When this show was originally on TV, it was the show to watch. People today often forget that our forms of entertainment were 3 or 4 channels on tv or what entertainment we made for ourselves. No cell phones, computers, etc. This show even all these years later is worth watching through it's entirety because it is that good.
@@jdtractorman7445 I had 100+ channels on cable since about 1975 and had a car phone in the 80's. In 1980 I took Basic programming course. We were not in the stone age then. But every decade brings tremendous advances. Just wish I can live longer to see it.
There's footage filmed of people watching this for the first time and people's reactions were incredible...screaming in disbelief and joy. This is television history right here...one of the biggest chockers of all time...Bobby in the shower. Of course for younger people they cannot fathom what the fuss is about, but this was MAJOR stuff. The fact that we are commenting and talking about it almost 40 years later is proof enough.
Had to have lived and watched during the time to .....get it! I hear you, it was massive but Who Shot J.R. was an even bigger ordeal worldwide. Great series and sure do miss it. Semper.Fidelis
Loved Season 9. Wish at the end of the season Pam would get a call that maybe Bobby woke up from a coma and they would continue wirh the story lines that they ended the season with.
I think it was Charlene Tilton that said they probably should've come up with a better excuse to bring Bobby back since basically saying that an entire year's worth of storylines, didn't matter, probably alienated a lot of people.
They should have made the reboot all Pam dream that she been in a coma since the end of season 10 and wakes up in the hospital and somehow can walk (it not a medical show) and goes to the nurses desk and ask what year is it.
@@JohnCee754 Though the show ranked in the top 10 for the entire season, that was on the ratings strength of the early episodes. By the latter part of the season, it had dropped out of the top 15 shows in the weekly ratings, and CBS was alarmed.
I loved the character Angelic Nero portrayed so beautifully by the lovely actress Barbara Carrera. So elegant and classy! She was suppose to be more exzodic and non Texas like. Had Patrick Duffy not returned to Dallas I wonder if the show would have gone on as long as it did?
I don't care what they say Carter Makay ,he he couldn't be any worse Angelic Nero. She was the one of worse character they brought into Dallas, I believe Larry hangman himself wasn't happy with that season Patrick Duffy came back.
@@johndoyle2429 Larry did NOT like the high fashion they brought in to compete with "Dynasty" . He wanted Patrick back! I happen to think the season ending episode and a few leading up to it the season Pam woke up the day after marrying Mark and found he deceased ex-husband in her shower was the forever most memorable "Dallas" episode(s).
i actually found out that sue ellen linda grey had been fired and this was her way of getting killed off but larry hagman saved her job. tells you a lot about the kind of guy he was may he rip.
I'm so glad Pam woke up from this 31 episode nightmare. After 8 excellent seasons this was the first preposterous one. Loved the 1986-87 season! Too bad that would be Dallas' last excellent season.
I have to tell my history with Dallas, and it stems from a video game lol. I got Goldeneye 007 for my Nintendo 64 when I was 9 in 1997. I got into the movie series, and Never Say Never Again was my favorite. In Nov 1998 when I was 10, I stumbled through the channels and found Barbara Carrera. I then saw her eating dinner with Larry Hagman that I recognized from I Dream of Jeannie reruns. I began to watch each night and became more hooked. After my gram moved to Florida near us in Jan 1999, I learned she was a fan during the original run. I stayed at her townhouse each Friday 1999 to late 2000 before her cancer got too much, and I watched the reruns with her. I viewed at my folks home otherwise. I do remember watching when JR threw Pierce off the balcony, and Sue Ellen shot him with my gramma. I think my folks came through the door at that point after having eaten out. I am one that remembers the little details.
DYNASTY : The Moldavian Massacre in season 5. Cancellation 4 seasons later. FALCON CREST : The Death of Chase Gioberti in season 6. Cancellation 3 seasons later. DALLAS : Pam wakes up from her dream and finds Bobby in the shower. Cancellation 5 seasons later. Followed by 2 reunion TV movies and a brand new 2nd series reboot that lasts for 3 seasons. SO WORTH IT.
Well, I was remembering two cliffhangers, the one they shoot Bobby and this one. I loved this season, so many interesting characters and the final jr Office explosion! Was shocking at that time
YOu can tell the windows blowing out was a different set. Watch after the explosion the camera moves down and the otehr windows look totaly different. Then they dumped probably a few bags of trash out to make it look like falling debree. very creepy scene nicely done. Had the next season followed that cliff hanger bet Sue Ellen would been badly hurt
The show went into a freefall once Duffy came back, and Principal left at the end of season 10. Principal left on her own upset over the "dream", and others like Susan Howard were fired for speaking out about it....Susan Howard is still very vocal about the the "dream" destroying the show, and she is 100% right.
Victoria Principal didn't leave over the dream season. Where did you come up with that? She's stated many times that she had planned to leave at the end of Season 9 (season 10 on the DVDs). The fact that Season 8 was a dream had nothing to do with her decision to leave at the end of her contract. Also, Susan Howard has said in interviews that she went head to head with the producers over a storyline where she encourages Jenna to have an abortion and she said that it was against her beliefs and refused to do it. That started the issues with her and the producers and her being so vocal about erasing the entire season as a dream was the nail in the coffin.
They should have had Bobby im a coma and Pam be awakened by a phone call that Bobby is alive. Show Pam.going into his hospital room and there's Bobby .Then the other storylines could have played out.
@@ralphfloyd8540 I agree 100 percent! That next season would have been AMAZING!! There would have been so much good material there for the writers to play with!
There were rumors that Pam would have found Mark dead in the shower but I heard the actor say that they never filmed that. So who knows? I think at the point they had VP film that scene the producers knew how they were going to use it, so idk how much they invested into the rest of that scene, but I'm not 100 percent sure about that. Personally, I did not enjoy the season where Bobby was dead. It started out ok, but then devolved into a clone of Dynasty with all the international intrigue and costume parties, and over the top wardrobe, and characters I didn't care about. When I saw the season premiere in 1986, and Bobby said that "none of that happened" I was shocked. When it cut to the next scenes it was (for me) like watching the classic DALLAS that I loved from the earlier seasons. I think it put the show back to where it took a wrong turn. It only fell apart for me once Victoria Principal left and there was no more Romeo and Juliet.
Happy 32nd Anniversary DALLAS! April 2, 1978 You graced our TV screens and Changed Television forever and set the tone for the Season ending Cliffhangers that even comedies are using. So, whenever we watch tv and have a favorite show and the season ends, leaving us wondering what is going to happen next?We can all Thank Dallas and The Masterpiece and Father oF all Cliffhangers, "Who Shot J.R.?"
Season 8 (DVD season 9) was allright, but far better than the next 5 years that would follow. It was the last "true" season of DALLAS to many, also the last one with decent ratings. Duffy decided to come back after filming was wrapped up, Mark Graison was originally to be found dead in the shower by Pam. Sue Ellen would live, Jamie Ewing would die.
Apart from the season opener Bobby's return didn't improve the ratings drop. In fact it made it worse. Soaps were falling out of favour with viewers by that stage anyway. So telling loyal fans that they had watched 24 episodes for no reason was treating them with contempt
He gonna call public works and complain about a leak to get his bill reduced for being in that 🚿 for so long. Maybe Pam's ' NEW ' long hair clogged the drain ☝!😂😂😂
As much as I loved the spectacular Dream Season and how it pains me to see its emotional trials & tribulations wiped away, Dallas made the right choice to bring Bobby back and how he returned-for the enduring longevity of the show. Remember: ratings decline happened for ALL prime time soaps after the pinnacle 1983-1985 era, regardless what the storylines were. Dallas made the right choice.
This ruined the show for many people. The audience was treated with contempt. First it was a mistake to kill off Bobby and then compounded the problem by bringing him back. A huge mess.
Outside of the 1989-91 seasons, this was the worst season. Only saving grace is that we had most of the original cast. It played just like a dream as no one was in the character that we once knew and it was all kind of a depressing fog. Getting Patrick Duffy back and Leonard Katzman made 1986-87 rock!
Later in this season JR is no where near as nasty as he had been to the pont of not at all. Making peace with Sue Ellen treating her right, not cheating her, just about making peace with Cliff , Jamie and Pam, been ok with Clayton, Ray & Donna. He even as the show was coming to a close was starting to become a life saving anti hero especially in his partnering along and being friendly with Dack Rambo. This season wasn't so bad.
I found this season absolutely fascinating cant believe the ratings dropped so much they had to write off a whole season .totally incredulous.i I like to class this as the last season of the REAL dallas because u could not take it seriously after the dramatic events of the dream season.would love to have seen continuation of these storylines. I am given to believe that pam found mark dead in the shower in the intended cliffhanger and that the REAL jock ewing was to resurface. producers missed a trick here
i so agree! The constant Bobby vs. JR battle had worn off. How exciting and refreshing it would have been had Pam been given the opportunity to run Ewing Oil, probably with the aid of Donna. But of course, neither Hagman and Kanaly (nor Duffy) would have played along to that. In its' later years, the show had totally turned into a show for "the old boys".
I loved season 9! Most of it was REALLY good! Victoria Principal was out with a bad back part of that season but the beginning and towards the end of season 9 was when the show was at it's best. Bobby could have come back another way but the shows creators wanted us all to forget about season 9. Barbra Caraira was a class act villain brought in that year to compete with Joan Collins on rival night time soap "Dynasty". That year "Dallas" hired the designer who made Marilyn Monroe's dresses. Latrry Hagman didn't like that they were starting to look like "Dynasty". Season 10 the comparisons stopped as "Dallas" went back to the what made the night time so popular. Victioria Principal character was written off at the end of season 10. The show never really recovered after that. new characters were brought in but the show pretty much ran it's course.
+George Hirst they should have just had Bobby be in a year long coma instead of dieing. that way he could come back which ended up happening. sad they had to get rid of all the interesting characters like Angelica.
What did you think of the way Bobby returned? Could it have been done a better way? It destroyed its own credibility? Didn't the producers anticipate the fallout? (loss of audience, credibility)
The show would have continued for another ten years with good story lines instead of rating grabbing cliff hangers such as Bobby's death and resuection
When I look back now rewatching the dream year, Ray and Donna had such a better marriage with the pregnancy and adoption story. Jenna seemed much more positive and happier than the next season where she was in turmoil pregnant by Bobby after he chose Pam. The only plus after the dream was seeing a stronger Sue Ellen who finally learned how to handle JR. Pam became much weaker after the dream remarrying Bobby and upset about Jenna’s pregnancy.
The continuity people forgot one thing. At the end of Season 8, when Bobby died, Pam's hair was a lot shorter - more of a bob cut. This shot, when she wakes up to discover Bobby in the shower, is supposed to be the next morning from that previous season after they had got back together. But her hair has mysteriously grown long overnight!
What a way to go out! I know this season gets kicked around a lot ...and deservedly so... but I have to admit I'm curious to see how these plot lines would have progressed had Pam not woken up when she did. At this point, JR had gotten everything he wanted. He'd obtained sole control and ownership of Ewing Oil and he'd reconciled with Sue Ellen!
Well JR owned 60% and had controlling interest of Ewing Oil. I had heard Ben Stivers would have been Jock Ewing and would take the company back from JR. Jamie would have died where Cliff would once again go after JR continuing the feud. Sue Ellen would be badly burned and blind,
April Stevens would of still arrived but not an ex to Jack, but a dear friend of Jamie who stayed in Dallas to avenge her death. Mark was supposed to die in Bobby's shower resurrection and Angelica would of been given BD Calhoun's lines and would of been stalking JR instead.
As I mentioned on another video, the original cliffhanger for this season - before Duffy agreed to return - was "Is Ben Stivers really Jock Ewing?". Earlier in the above episode, Sue Ellen and Miss Ellie are shown searching Southfork for Clayton when Sue Ellen sudden;y decides to go into Dallas to check on JR. After the explosion at Ewing Oil, they were going to cut back to Ellie who, still looking for Clayton, goes into the bunkhouse and looks through Ben's things. There, she finds Jock's buckle and knife and the letters she wrote to him while he was in South America. Ben then enters, and tells her the items are "mine." Basically, this is the same scene that occurs between Ellie and Wes early in the following season. Once Duffy agreed to return, they added the scene of Pam walking to the shower and opening the door. In order to keep Bobby's method of return a secret, Victoria Principal was told that Pam would discover Mark lying unconscious - perhaps dead - on the shower floor (I don't believe the shot of Mark on the floor was ever filmed). Later, the insert of Duffy in the shower was filmed at a separate location with a separate crew who were told they were doing a commercial for Irish Spring soap. On his cue, Duffy turned, said "good morning", paused for a second, and then continued with ". . . and you can have a good morning too with Irish Spring soap . . . blah, blah, blah."
have heard the same only that ben would really been jock but they could not have 2 characters coming back from the dead at the same time.apparently they thought that would have been incredulous!!!lol
No, Mark was never in this. Victoria said they asked her to come back in, to film this scene. She said she opened the shower door, and it was empty. They said “cut” and thanked her for coming back in to film this, as the season had already finished filming. She was kept in the dark about Bobby being in the shower and didn’t know until the episode aired that May.
as far as I was concerned, this was the end of Dallas. The only exciting thing that happened after this wasn't until next season when Pam got in the car accident.
As I understand it Pam's dream was itself part of Lucy's much longer and more complex dream which incorporates all events from season 3 on. As far as I know Lucy is still asleep.
Dallas jumped the shark on this storyline. The irony of it is that the dream season was good. It was the resolution and reintroduction of Patrick Duffy that signalled the beginning of the end. I only saw Dallas on repeat viewing in the UK on a satellite channel in 1999/2000 But my parents and most viewers in the UK jumped after Pam's collision with the oil tanker at the end of the following season from this one By the time Dallas ended in the UK during its original airing. It had gone from prime time evening viewing to a Sunday afternoon slot that hardly anybody watched Most people thought that the writers and producers were insulting the intelligence of the viewers
Yes this season didnt have Bobby and got all 80s Dynasty glammed up BUT it was still watchable and had some fab. story lines! Ratings went down but was still a solid top 10 (after NINE seasons or whatever) Irony is the moment Bobby came back it was beyond absurd. Story lines, cast etc...Just everything was well off its peak
After the car explodes, Jack is clearly upset. And I read that they had entended that Sue Ellen would be blinded and Jamie dies. Bobby coming back lets her live an extra season.
This must be the most disturbing cliffhanger of Dallas. The "dream" messed up everything. It was a great season, and by the way - season 9 was the longest season of all (31 episodes) and they call it a dream...nice one! I love the character Bobby but I really think he should've stayed out if he wanted to be out.
This would have been a great cliffhanger if they didn't bring Bobby back. It was a great season. Even though we missed Bobby, it still was Dallas at its finest. I wish they could have given Bobby a new role to play. It was difficult to go back to the season before and follow.
It was obvious the producers of Dallas modeled Anjelica after Barbara Carrera's portrayal of Fatima Blush in Never Say Never Again. They wanted to snap her up before the producers of Dynasty did.
And for me that's where the run of the original show ended. After that it went downhill. I mean the following seasons where I was supposed to believe a special forces commando couldn't kill JR and not to mention the Carter McCay thing and a siege happening on american soil on the ranch with a paramilitary group and the ATF, DEA, FBI not heavily involved and Bobby an untrained civilian taking them on. Really? The new continuation is badass though!
The dream idea was stupid.. they could have explained that Bobby went into a coma instead after doctors tried to bring him back. after all hospitals have a machine to try and jump start the heart.
I don't think that would have worked. They went all out and showed Bobby flat lining in the hospital, then went on to have a funeral and spent the first part of the season in mourning. They could not have explained away all of that by saying he was in a coma. Apparently Patrick Duffy was adamant that Bobby had to die because he originally had no intention on ever coming back. I don't dislike the "dream" explanation as much as I used too, it just kind of sucks that the season that was dreamed away was a pretty good one. Probably the last good season of Dallas. The "dream season" was certainly the last season that Dallas was a top 10 show.
Pat Duffy has said in interviews that there were scenes filmed with Bobby being revived. The producers chose to use the dream excuse. He also said he thought he was filming a soap commercial and it was edited.
Got to wonder, did the writers do this stuff knowing the dream stuff was coming and were just having fun or did they expect to pick up where this left off before Patrick decided to come back.
No one knew this would be a dream when they filmed all of this. Patrick agreed to return AFTER the season had finished filming. Luckily he agreed to return before this episode aired, so the whole shower scene was filmed then. Victoria was asked to come in after the season ended filming, to film her scene of walking to the shower.
all the SEASON 9 storylines were a dream?..no not true..the Jock Ewing imposter storyline was continued into season 10 played by the same actor too....what a mess this was..the fans were treated like fools..bringing back Bobby was the biggest mistake for the show...it lost all its credability..Dallas was doing fine without him..personaly I think season 9 was one of the best seasons of the show.
Can almost pin point the 80s special effects for the explosion. Blow up a small model building window fairly close up then as the camera switches to the next scene (watch closely as you can tell it was either a different camera or what not) amd someone is probably in a window up above dumping out a bag of debris to look like the building explosion scraps
The stupid thing was after they went to all the trouble of bringing him back Victoria Principle left the following season and I didn't blame her one bit I bet she was like "make up you f***king mind Patrick Duffy"
I know that this was probably the most talked about season of the show. But this season it killed its time slot rival over on NBC the misfits of science for 1985-86..XD
During explosion scene, the sidewalk by the building is blocked off with cones, there's a lift in the road blocking the street below the "exploding" window. "quick editing".
