From the very first time I heard Sutherland’s voice, that sound dug deep into my emotions. Just gorgeous. I only got to see her live twice. But I’m so grateful.
Thank you so much for sharing this. I remain in awe every time I hear this absoluut incredible and beautiful way in which Dame Joan could use her unique voice.❤
It's really funny this war beetwen Joan's, Maria's o Montserrat's fans. Full of big egos and judgements of something so personal like taste. Well Joanie here is excellent. Like Maria or Birgit or Borkh or Cigna. One singer doesn't make disapear the others....in my language we say taste it's in variety. And Joan you made it!
I wish dame Joan had sung once Turandot live in her life ... but I think she made it up for us, by singing her early Esclarmondes in Turandot vocal mode which is like Turandot x2 times harder
@@LohengrinO I share this dream with you. But it will be just a thought forever. But when I think about it, it freaks me out..... OMG. Just one Turandot live, and no Lucias in the 80's!
Wow. 😯 She's doing really well. I wouldn't have bet on it. Frankly she was surprising at times. She had more than one trick up her sleeve. Pavarotti is excellent too, his "ardente" is absolutely unmatched.
Brava!!!!!!! I find it so frustrating when people have the nerve to say not for her!!!! Clearly she had incredible abilities vocally!!!!! Sometimes it may not be to your taste, But give credit to whom credit is due.... I must say that I myself am pleasantly surprised by this wonderful recording!!!! Bravaaaaaaaaa!!!!
Pero no es Turandot, es Joan Sutherland cantando bien. Nunca podremos negar que Sutherland era un increíble fenómeno vocal. Pero a su Turandot le falta la dureza de la princesa de hielo.
@@1968KWT Anch'io! Ma anche la sua Gilda con Milnes nel ruolo di Rigoletto diretto dal marito. Il Maestro Franco Zeffirelli aveva grande considerazione di questa signora soprano.
I only wish she had performed it live! Her voice is perfect for Turandot, it might have been too dramatic for her coloratura, but for size, femininity and color, it’s perfection - Nilsson was great, but lost appeal and the utter beauty that Sutherland brought to the role! I say the same about Caballe’s Salome!
Sutherland voice too dramatic for coloratura roles?! … if by this you mean bel canto roles you couldn’t be more wrong. While certainly a sympathetic/sensitive singer, Sutherland possessed a voice that lacked dramatic heft. Callas on the other hand was the bel canto master - bel canto does not mean beautiful singing, it means expressive singing with mastery of all the embellishments and decorations to provide dramatic weight (not showy virtuosity). Bel canto roles embrace murder, mental illness, infidelity, etc., so do you think the emotions attached to these actions and states of mind are encompassed by a very pretty voice like Sutherland’s? No, of course not … it’s Callas who best conveys what bel canto singing is. The two pillars of bel canto are diction and line. Sutherland’s diction was mediocre at best, and her vocal line was frequently disturbed by her attempt to impart dramatic weight by pulling and pushing and distorting the line. Callas’ diction had bite, and the most amazing thing is no matter how much she felt and conveyed drama through her voice she sang with an amazingly smooth legato. Now that’s genius. Sutherland said that if she had sung Norma like Callas she would have wrecked her voice. Well there’s the reason she should never have sung Norma - she was vocally incapable of conveying true drama. All her expressions of emotion in this role are imported for the occasion so to speak. Nothing is truly felt. And there’s Sills who disrespectfully stated that parts of Norma made her giggle and that she thought the role was not terribly difficult. Well yes, if you gloss over drama and emotion and overdecorate because you can and engage in vocal histrionics, then I guess the role would be fairly simple for a coloratura soprano (like Sills) with great technique to offer but not much else.
I am not in the majority here … but I have to say Caballe’s Salome is monochromatic at best. Nothing evil is conveyed. Girlish she is, evil she’s not. And her voice is constantly drowned out by the orchestra. Salome is not a role Caballe should have ever undertaken. She did say it was her favorite role … that’s probably because the critics praised her Salome to the sky. So she jumped on the band wagon and went with it.
@@191helen wow - we totally disagree - vive la difference! We’ll enjoy our own divas separately! I’ve been classically trained in voice - I have other values - although I can’t fault Callas as an actress - her voice more often reminds me of fingernails on a blackboard! 😀
Joan Sutherland no es la Turandot ideal, ella es absolutamente apropiada para el bel canto del siglo XIX. La Turandot ideal es Birgit Nilsson con su voz de acero. No es solo alcanzar las notas o tener el registro vocal, es dar vida a la esencia del personaje 💓💓💓
@@joseabraham8038 Sencillamente Donizetti ni Bellini son para Birgit Nilsson. No es cuestión de abrir la mente, los cantantes deben reconocer objetivamente sus límites interpretativos. Por ello se especializan en determinados repertorios
@@lavozporexcelencia no sé de donde sacaste ese mandato/edicto/bula papal. Esta es una grabación de estudio y suena fantástica, ella nunca cantó esto en el teatro y aquí no está interpolando agudos ni añadiendo fiorituras así que no entiendo tu queja, además, los “límites interpretativos” son bastante subjetivos, por lo que no veo como se pueden reconocer objetivamente. Creo que tu corset está muy apretado
@@joseabraham8038 Creo que no comprendes... Yo prefiero una Turandot creíble, una verdadera princesa de hielo. No una Turandot que suene simplemente fantástica. No importa si es una grabación en estudio o en el teatro. Has escuchado a Turner, Cigna, Callas, Nilsson, Dimitrova, Marton y otras?
Yo si comprendo, pero lo que ud dijo inicialmente es que Sutherland no es una Turandot apropiada y que DEBÍA reconocer sus carencias estilísticas e interpretativas. Yo nunca cuestioné preferencias personales porque también prefiero las turandot dramáticas como Nilsson, pero eso no me impide reconocer que Sutherland cantó una turandot más que digna en el estudio, ella no es una gran verdiana, pero has escuchado su grabación de santo di patria? Es Increible! Estos “fachs” son una guía, no un impedimento para el disfrute artístico
@@beachfanatic2010 Turandot non è un'opera italiana? Ho capito bene? Turandot è l'ultima opera (incompiuta)di Giacomo Puccini.Egli la compose fino al momento della morte di Liu'.Il Maestro Toscanini non volle mai andare oltre.Ma penso che queste cose già le sai! Un cordiale saluto!
Rubbish! She was a dramatic soprano who also just happened to have the finest coloratura techniqe of any singer of any time. Only Callas in her, very short, prime, came any where near.John Loveridge
Совсем не по голосу партия Турандот. Звук сдавленный, вымученный. Нет полёта, объёма. Не стоит лирическому сопрано исполнять драматический репертуар. Ну разве что в качестве эксперимента.
