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Dan Wallace's TOP 5 BIBLE TRANSLATIONS 

Mike Licona
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Dan Wallace and Mike Licona discuss the BEST ENGLISH BIBLE TRANSLATIONS, the WORST ENGLISH BIBLE TRANSLATIONS, and how each translation differs from the others. Dan also tells us of his TOP 5 Bible Translations. There is a lot of information in this video most do not know.
Daniel ("Dan") Wallace is Senior Research Professor of New Testament Studies at Dallas Theological Seminary and Executive Director of the Center for the Study of New Testament Manuscripts. His book Exegetical Syntax of the New Testament is a standard intermediate Greek grammar. High resolution photographs of hundreds of Greek New Testament manuscripts may be viewed at www.csntm.org.
Mike Licona is associate professor of theology at Houston Baptist University and president of Risen Jesus, Inc. HBU offers a fully accredited Master of Arts degree in apologetics that may be completed entirely online or on the HBU campus in Houston. For more information, visit bit.ly/2Wlej6Z.
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@CruxSacraApologetics
@CruxSacraApologetics Год назад
0:00 Categories 3:04 What makes an Accurate Bible 5:30 What Type is the ESV? 8:06 NIV vs. NLT 9:05 The NET as a Study Bible 11:02 Thoughts on the CSB 12:25 Which is Best for Beauty? Accuracy? Readability? 16:13 Dan's TOP 5 PICKS Study and Accuracy: NET Readability & Accuracy: NIV Understated Elegance: ESV Rich Wording: KJV & REB (1989) Ecumentical: NRSV 17:00 What Type is the ASV? 18:45 NRSV and Gender Neutrality 22:33 NKJV is the Least Favorite? 24:26 Not a Big Fan of the NASB? 27:38 What is the Favorite Overall Bible? 28:06 Center for the Study of New Testament Manuscripts 34:34 Closure
@MM-jf1me
@MM-jf1me Год назад
Thank you!
@rinkevichjm
@rinkevichjm Год назад
NRSV is not in accord with LA and is NOT Vatican approved
@rinkevichjm
@rinkevichjm Год назад
Fails to acknowledge the bad translation of Tyndall and almost every English Bible that improperly translate genitives. Gal 3:22 … so that the promise from out of Jesus Christ’s faithfulness might be given to the faithful - not: so the promise by the faith of Jesus Christ might be given to the believer. Ek is not “by” and the Greek never intends the faith of Jesus Christ but Jesus Christ’s faithfulness, nor does it intend believer rather than faithful
@NewportSolar
@NewportSolar 11 месяцев назад
The hero of the comments section 👍
@danielprovencio7063
@danielprovencio7063 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for this!
@pattube
@pattube 2 года назад
According to Dan Wallace in the video: * He has three criteria in Bible translation: accuracy, readability, elegance. * For accuracy as "the translator's translation": NET * For accuracy with readibilty: NIV * For understated elegance: ESV * For elegance with "rich words" and that is "literary": KJV and REB * For ecumenical (not one of his three criteria but Wallace still mentioned it): NRSV
@daynehaworth9258
@daynehaworth9258 2 года назад
Thanks for summarising this brother 😀
@fransikajohn9005
@fransikajohn9005 2 года назад
NIV is most controversial and subtly anti-God along with some others. It not a true translation but a corruption of the original. Don't put if pass Satan to be involved in bible translation under the deception of making it it plainer. God is his own intetpreter.
@properpropaganda9831
@properpropaganda9831 Год назад
NIV for accuracy? Yikes.
@Real_LiamOBryan
@Real_LiamOBryan Год назад
@@properpropaganda9831 I kinda feel you on this one; however, the NIV is fairly accurate to what the Greek was trying to convey, though not always.
@makarov138
@makarov138 Год назад
Wonder why he doesn't mention the CSB? That's a great bible! Very clearly written.
@josephsolomon3436
@josephsolomon3436 3 года назад
Thank you for this. I have learned quite a bit from Dr. Daniel Wallace. It's always a joy to learn about different translations and textual criticism. God bless both of you for all that you do.
@davidricci7736
@davidricci7736 2 года назад
One will never listen to Dr. Wallace without learning. I thank God for his life, gifts, and contribution to the church.
@ericday4505
@ericday4505 Год назад
Yes you are correct David, I absolutely love listening to this guy, and I always learn something.
@david.petrey
@david.petrey 3 года назад
I'm in love with Dan's bookcases!
@GracUntoYou
@GracUntoYou 3 года назад
It's like the beauty and the beast's library
@moerivera6659
@moerivera6659 3 года назад
I know right 😂
@glennkealy8466
@glennkealy8466 2 года назад
Totally awesome
@RV-there-Yet
@RV-there-Yet 2 года назад
Maybe it's a green screen =)
@d.torrent1822
@d.torrent1822 2 года назад
Truly done right. 👌
@billyr9162
@billyr9162 3 года назад
I immediately paused the video and went and bought the NET Bible. Couldn't even wait to the end of the video. Looked up a few verses and Shazam. It's wonderful. There still is no replacement for knowing the Greek words but this is good.
@paulanderson2410
@paulanderson2410 3 года назад
Wow, Dan and Mike, this is greatly helpful;' thanks so much!!!
@mikemandel5775
@mikemandel5775 2 года назад
"Elegance, accuracy, and readability". Brilliant! Thanks for this.
@ArmorofTruth
@ArmorofTruth 3 года назад
That is a FABULOUS LIBRARY! I want one just like it. Great discussion as well!
@vickyburton2434
@vickyburton2434 3 года назад
Me too!❤️
@ApologeticsandEvidence
@ApologeticsandEvidence 3 года назад
Excellent, Mike and Dan! Thank you!
@rasmith_99
@rasmith_99 8 месяцев назад
Great interview Mike. Great topic and info. I’m a big fan of Dr Wallace’s work.
@JWCFB
@JWCFB 3 года назад
Two of my very favorite people. I so enjoyed these videos.
@ojibwayinca8487
@ojibwayinca8487 3 года назад
I LOVE Dan's library!!
@davidmilam2037
@davidmilam2037 3 года назад
I wish I could ask Mr. Dan and Mr. Mike about this new Berean Study Bible. I've been reading from it for about two years now, and I consider it my new favorite.
@jfm562
@jfm562 3 года назад
Thank You for this excellent video.
@kushluk777
@kushluk777 Год назад
A very enlightening and interesting conversation regarding which translations of the bible follow which procedures for what reasons. Bravo!
@jasongillis1336
@jasongillis1336 7 месяцев назад
NET really grows on you the more you read it and investigate the textual notes and reasons for translating certain ways. I love how if there are discussions about a text, it just presents the issues from both sides and the reasons they went a particular way. I must be a nerd, because I find it enlightening and fun!
@craigime
@craigime 6 месяцев назад
It doesn't
@bizdude57
@bizdude57 6 месяцев назад
Net bible: John 1:18 No one has ever seen God. The only one, himself God, who is in closest fellowship with the Father, has made God known. ESV: John1:18 No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known. KJV: John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him]. NASB: John1:18 No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him. Trinity? No Trinity? Depends on which text you desire? Best bible translations? No such thing.
@bizdude57
@bizdude57 6 месяцев назад
You are correct.
@OkieAllDay
@OkieAllDay 11 месяцев назад
CSB, ESV, NIV, KJV are the translations I read and memorize from
@fredsalfa
@fredsalfa 3 года назад
Thanks for that it gives me a much more detailed understanding of the different versions from a scholarly perspective.
@jaine2164
@jaine2164 9 месяцев назад
I SO appreciate Dan's Expertise. I heard him at a conference in Dallas in my 20's. He's slowly morphing me into an Apologists.😁😊
@solomonjoshua1655
@solomonjoshua1655 2 года назад
In love with the footnotes in the NET Bible. 🧐🧑‍🎓. Beginning of a NEW era.
@craigime
@craigime 6 месяцев назад
Not really
@annagaiser5186
@annagaiser5186 10 месяцев назад
CSB: "It's not a Southern Baptist only translation--there are some decent scholars who worked on it." I'm pretty sure that didn't come out the way Dr. Wallace intended it, but it was still the best laugh I've had in a long time!
@timtodd1764
@timtodd1764 2 дня назад
Thank Gentlemen for this podcast. This has given me much peace in the Bible translation i have chosen. Thank you. God-bless
@Johanschannel7
@Johanschannel7 3 года назад
Very good interview! Greetings from Finland!
@hunterklise9337
@hunterklise9337 3 года назад
These videos are great 👍
@lucianoprea9269
@lucianoprea9269 3 года назад
We are so blessed to have these brothers. God bless yours ministry. Greetings from Romania.
@RevanJJ
@RevanJJ 4 месяца назад
This was the most based, practical, non-judgmental examination of the Scriptures I’ve seen. Thanks helping me pick a Bible!
@rayyoung7780
@rayyoung7780 Год назад
Loved this video. Thanks.
@jimchumley2982
@jimchumley2982 2 года назад
Love this man. May his tribe increase.
@davidmjacobson
@davidmjacobson 3 года назад
Very helpful. I learned a ton from his intermediate greek book (and sadly have forgotten most of it!). A little off topic, but I went and hunted down the reference at 15:14 on cultural literacy. I'm pretty sure he's talking about "Cultural Literacy: What Every American Needs to Know" by E. D. Hirsch.
@janeEyreAddict
@janeEyreAddict 2 года назад
I was curious about that too...but he said Alan bloom so perhaps he is referring to " the closing of the American mind"?
@MM-jf1me
@MM-jf1me Год назад
Thank you both. I assumed he must be talking about the book David mentioned, but then found the book Jane mentioned when I tried to look up Alan Bloom in connection with cultural literacy: glad to have my assumptions confirmed by others.
@GarciaonlyJesus
@GarciaonlyJesus 3 года назад
Wow so much information and thank you!!!!
@Henry._Jones
@Henry._Jones 2 года назад
This was extremely helpful.
@marbleman52
@marbleman52 3 года назад
I have a three volume set that has 26 different versions/translations of the entire Bible contrasted & compared where there is a significant difference in the translation for any particular verse. It has been interesting to use. My main Bible is the NKJV, called The Open Bible Expanded Edition, 1983, and I have used it since the late 1980's. But...what really started opening my eyes and mind to the wonderful Bible was when I got my first Strong's Exhaustive Concordance and began looking up the Hebrew and Greek words as I read the verses. it has opened up a whole new world of scriptural study for me. I am wondering why using a good Concordance along with whatever translation of the Bible that one chooses to use was not mentioned? I enjoyed the interview...thanks..!!
@rhyne9388
@rhyne9388 2 года назад
Most likely due to the fact that just having a Strongs alone doesn't always provide the correct word especially in Greek. You have to parse the word in order to get the correct gender and even the meaning in some instances. I like a Strongs Concordance and it has its value no question but you have to dig more into the word meaning that is provided to get its true value.
@VicRibeiro777
@VicRibeiro777 2 года назад
@@rhyne9388 Yes, a lexicon is preferable to just Strong's. Also, Strong's has been, and is still being abused by overzealous people that don't understand that context is very important. The purpose of Strong's was to show the reader the words BEHIND the KJV text. Not an exhaustive explanation of how those original words should be translated. Read the preface and the explanations at the start of the Original complete Strong's. It is there if people only look.
@vickyburton2434
@vickyburton2434 Год назад
Like the key Word Study Bible?
@joethomas1146
@joethomas1146 3 года назад
I want Dan's library! what a great room!
@Airik1111bibles
@Airik1111bibles 3 года назад
Coveting is a sin brother.... I want a library of my own that looks just like that guys .😂
@christianfrommuslim
@christianfrommuslim 3 года назад
Great analysis, and one that every serious Bible student should see!
@NewportSolar
@NewportSolar 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for the excellent video.
@jarrodmurdock5689
@jarrodmurdock5689 Год назад
He’s right about the Revised English Bible. It’s beautiful and vastly underrated and under-appreciated. It’s a shame it isn’t more well-known. I wish Cambridge published it in more reader-friendly editions.
@OriginalWinProductions
@OriginalWinProductions 3 года назад
It should be added that the KJV was also reactionary to the Geneva Bible.
@OriginalWinProductions
@OriginalWinProductions 3 года назад
Great talk btw.
@1gumbah
@1gumbah 4 месяца назад
I’m learning thank you so much
@babasingapura
@babasingapura 3 года назад
Great to hear about the work of CSNTM
@gibsonguitarplayer
@gibsonguitarplayer Год назад
I have one of those green Living Bibles from the 70’s!!!! I’m 67, grew up on the RSV through high school years and my catechism class. Moved to the NIV for many years…and now I’m in love with the KJV. I just naturally translate it in my mind as I read it. Just elegant and direct to the point without a bunch of extra words.
@tonikeltz3751
@tonikeltz3751 Год назад
This is my story, also. The only difference is that I never had an RSV. I let go of my Living Bible in the late 80's when a friend showed interest in the Bible. It was a sacrifice at the time I remember! I always return to KJV.
@hdrealestate92345
@hdrealestate92345 7 месяцев назад
same
@t2squared
@t2squared День назад
Yeah, I had one too. I bought it a a K-Mart. It was wonderful.
@jamesstandifer1683
@jamesstandifer1683 2 года назад
I would love to know Dr. Wallace’s opinion of the Berean Study Bible (BSB)
@leo11190
@leo11190 2 года назад
Thank you for all the great information. How do you feel about HCSB?
@paulanderson2410
@paulanderson2410 3 года назад
PS I served on the Johannine writings translation group for the New American Bible revised translation, which should come out in a few years. We sought to be consistent in word translations overall, and, when the text was ambiguous in Greek, we left it so in the English rendering. Some really nice diction, I feel.
@MikeLiconaOfficial
@MikeLiconaOfficial 3 года назад
Thanks for bringing that to our attention, Paul! I wish we would have covered the NAB. Very glad to know you were involved with it and I will be sure to get a copy for my own use!
@paulanderson2410
@paulanderson2410 3 года назад
@@MikeLiconaOfficial thanks so much! And, the Jerusalem Bible is also a fine translation--even for a Quaker, here. (smile) I really loved the NASB in college BECAUSE it was so close to the Greek. I'm also getting Henry Cadbury's works out into a new book--fun hearing him (and a foreword by Bruce Metzger before he passed away) on RSV-project reflections. One essay is on "revision-after-revision".
@MikeLiconaOfficial
@MikeLiconaOfficial 3 года назад
@@paulanderson2410 That sounds very interesting, Paul!
@jaqian
@jaqian 3 года назад
How does the new NAB treat gender-neutral language (it has been a criticism of previous editions)? Will the new translation use the Grail Psalms or will they use their own translation? Thx
@tradcath2976
@tradcath2976 3 года назад
​@@MikeLiconaOfficial Catholic here. I hope the new NABRE, whenever it comes out, is an improvement. The existing one is awful. The Vatican's Congregation for Divine Worship rejected it for use in the lectionary because of its extreme use of gender-neutral language. The prose also is not very good. (Classics scholar Anthony Esolen has been railing against if for years.) Plus, the study notes are heterodox in many places, and not written from the standpoint of a believer. Personally, in the US, I wish either the RSV2CE or the ESVCE was adopted for the lectionary. (Of course, the Douay-Rheims is the gold standard IMO. When it was used, people actually attended Mass.)
@vickyburton2434
@vickyburton2434 Год назад
I love the NET Bible. I also love to read the CSV and NKJ. I also think it is so important to read different versions.
@ppettit
@ppettit 3 года назад
Always clear explanations from Dr. Dan Wallace!
@russellclaude
@russellclaude 2 года назад
I can watch Daniel Wallace bible videos all day.
@GrahameGould
@GrahameGould 3 года назад
This was an excellent summary of things to consider and Dan's opinion is very worthwhile. Clearly he has a lot of knowledge on the topic. I'd love to hear from other top Greek and Hebrew scholars on this issue.
@GrahameGould
@GrahameGould 3 года назад
I like that he affirmed the ESV as a good translation as I have come to the same conclusion, but without the depth and specificity of knowledge that Dan gives. I'll have to spend more time including NET in my studies.
@MagdalenaLilla
@MagdalenaLilla 3 года назад
This is a Great discussion. I'd like to hear also Bill Mounce on this topic.
@aperson4057
@aperson4057 3 года назад
@Hdjd Udjsjwb Well Bill Mounce has been involved in two, both the ESV and the NIV. Two translations with different philosophies so he can have much to say.
@MagdalenaLilla
@MagdalenaLilla 3 года назад
@Hdjd Udjsjwb Certainly. But Dan Wallace was also involved in the NET. It's just good to hear and learn more from different perspectives.
@BB-bs7hm
@BB-bs7hm 3 года назад
your bible interpreted so many times..become not book of God after interpretation
@michaelharrington75
@michaelharrington75 2 года назад
@@BB-bs7hmYou have no clue what you're talking about. All of the newer translations are translated from the original Greek and Hebrew manuscripts. It's not as if newer translations are being created by using older translations until the original meaning is lost. The original manuscripts are used to create a new translation. The main reason there are so many translations is because of copyright issues.
@my3461
@my3461 3 года назад
Thank you Dr. Licona. This was really fun and educational. I didn't know about NET Bible. Also I wonder what Dr. Wallce would say about Common English Bible and N.T. Write's translation. Also I am happy to know about you and your book, The Resurrection of Jesus. I will try to read it sometime. God bless you.
@timcarr6401
@timcarr6401 2 года назад
You meant N.T. Wright, who has the "Kingdom New Testament." I have it and it is rather poor. His version of Romans is a mess.
@thesimplegospel8697
@thesimplegospel8697 Год назад
I have created a video on Bible versions comparisons which may help you decide which version is best suited for you. You can watch it at: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-O08VaPuZGok.html
@timothyromang1433
@timothyromang1433 2 года назад
My NET is my favorite Bible, can’t wait for my Full notes edition
@davidwhunt
@davidwhunt 3 года назад
I found this video informative & helpful. Thank you! I enjoy using the NET (& it's notes) for sermon preparation. It's helpful to learn more here about the NET's background. Personally, I prefer the ESV to the NIV. I preached from the NIV for 7 years at the church where I previously served, then switched to the ESV 3 years ago. I prefer it for reading & preaching, one key area being that the ESV picks up imperfect tenses more often. Blessings from Australia.
@MB-gd6be
@MB-gd6be Год назад
And how about ESV in comparison to NASB95 or Legacy Bible?
@davidwhunt
@davidwhunt Год назад
@@MB-gd6be I highly regard the NASB95 & consult it for every sermon I prepare. I also consult the LSB now & then. But in the circles I move in here in Australia, I find very few people who use those translations, so I prefer to preach from the ESV. I only know one person here who uses the LSB. I do like how the LSB (& NKJV) use italics for extra words the translators have put in. That's one advantage they have over the ESV.
@reksubbn3961
@reksubbn3961 2 года назад
I love this man and his knowledge is phenomenal. But I am having trouble reading one Bible let alone having several translations! Where do these people find the time? Do they not sleep? So impressed. And yes I also covet his library.
@craigime
@craigime 6 месяцев назад
Why are you having trouble reading one bible?
@reksubbn3961
@reksubbn3961 6 месяцев назад
@@craigime Because it is a very big book. I am not talking about casual reading but studying and meditating and applying it to life. It takes a whole lifetime so I am told. Thanks for your reply.
@craigime
@craigime 6 месяцев назад
@@reksubbn3961 "so I am told" so you never tried it yourself? I study the Bible daily and I've read through it several times. Saying "it's a very big book" is just an excuse. There's no way your that busy that you couldn't have read through the Bible at least one time in your entire life
@Brett.Crealy-kh1sk
@Brett.Crealy-kh1sk 3 года назад
Thank You do much Dan and Mike! This is the information I was looking for! Much appreciated!👍
@joshyam4026
@joshyam4026 2 года назад
Digitized library of Greek New Testament manuscripts --- that is extremely exciting !! I "saw" some facsimiles of famous Greek and Hebrew bible manuscripts, back in 80's when I was a university student (it was founded by a Catholic missionary, Societas Verbum Divini). Now I hope I can see similar images on my PC after almost half a century later.
@trustobey1817
@trustobey1817 3 года назад
Dr. Licona, can you make subtitles available on all your video, please🙏?
@terryhuffaker3615
@terryhuffaker3615 Месяц назад
Go to settings and turn on English auto generated captions. This a feature of You Tube.
@sigiligus
@sigiligus 11 месяцев назад
The thing about the KJV is that it is THE titan of English literature. Even Richard Dawkins has said "any native English speaker who doesn't know a word of the King James is verging on the barbaric." It may not be the most accurate, but it is the definitive volume of the English language and culture for nearly half a millennium. Everyone with English as a first language regardless of faith should own one.
@JohnW-cf2kw
@JohnW-cf2kw 5 месяцев назад
It is the most accurate your problem is that it doesn't use the corrupt critical text
@susanstein6604
@susanstein6604 5 месяцев назад
The KJV is a bad transition of the original Hebrew. It’s an English translation of a Greek translation of the original Hebrew. It’s a copy of a copy of a copy.
@joehinojosa24
@joehinojosa24 2 года назад
Cool discussion. Like taking an intro class in seminary
@dcb7984
@dcb7984 3 года назад
Great video! What do you think about the Amplified Bible?
@hudsontd7778
@hudsontd7778 3 года назад
Its trash read the Holy King James Bible
@craigime
@craigime 6 месяцев назад
​@@hudsontd7778ouch
@wpankey57
@wpankey57 3 года назад
I primarily used the NASV for study. I've since moved to ESV. I'm VERY happy with it.
@TedBruckner
@TedBruckner 3 года назад
Yeah, the ESV is second best to being the most literal albeit's NT is lacking over 6,200 words and it has the MT OT like the KJV, etc.- all English Bibles; not the OT text the Church has preserved. St. Justin Martyr (AD 100-165) (Dialogue with Trypho, 71-73) and St. Irenaeus (AD 130-210) (Against Heresies, 3.21.1) stated that the scribes deliberately removed, altered or distorted the Messianic verses in their Scripture. The New Testament has approximately 250 direct quotations of Old Testament verses. Ninety percent of the quotations agree with the Septuagint but the majority disagree with the Masoretic Text. “Our Church holds the infallible and genuine deposit of the Holy Scriptures, of the Old Testament a true and perfect version, of the New the divine original itself.” - the “Encyclical of the Eastern Patriarchs” (AD 1848), a reply to the epistle of Pope Pius IX, "To the Easterns" English Bibles's Masoretic Text OT text : it's not the text the (Orthodox) Church has preserved: actually it's a falsified and mutilated revised Hebrew text named "Masoretic" [ from "Masoret" meaning "bond, collar" ]. Decent English translations of the Greek Old Testament / Septuagint ~ Seventy exist ; but the NETS translation of the Greek Old Testament is a fraud : it's based on the NRSV Masoretic Text hidden in Septuagint relatively superfluous words. To save time in seeing all i say is true you may see verses for comparison: 1) on archive.org - there search-bar : " mt vs lxx" ( i made it; contact me and I will send you the latest and improved version as PDF.) 2) And there's two charts online - one uv 25 NT quotes and their OT verses for comparison ; the other uv Proverbs - a 16 page chart - both on ecclesia . org . God Bless.
@wpankey57
@wpankey57 3 года назад
Ted Bruckner This is fascinating stuff isn’t it? Most people couldn’t care less but, I think this subject is so interesting.
@wpankey57
@wpankey57 3 года назад
Ναζωραῖος You got to love textual criticism!
@adamdavidsoddities8573
@adamdavidsoddities8573 3 года назад
I like those too. I also like the Modern Literal Version. It's not nearly as popular of a translation and it's new testament only.
@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786
@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786 3 года назад
Ναζωραῖος how about the Biblica Hebraica?
@jackwilmoresongs
@jackwilmoresongs 2 года назад
The Recovery Version with notes by Witness Lee is the most spiritually mourishing and enlightening study Bible translation I have ever seen. I also like Darby's New Translation and the 1901 American Standard.
@Beefcake1982
@Beefcake1982 7 месяцев назад
I got a NET after watching this and I have learned so much from it! Thank you!
@TheSoulMechanics
@TheSoulMechanics 3 года назад
Hi Mike, I'm planning to make a video in my Channel about the controversial St. Paul Filipino Translation of the Bible. Can I use some parts of this video to help me? Thank you
@michaelkelleypoetry
@michaelkelleypoetry 3 года назад
I like what Dr. Wallace says about the NIV at around the 14 minute mark about both readability and accuracy. I used to preach from translations like the NASB and KJV, but I recently changed to the NIV because it is just a terrific blend of both. If I'm preparing a sermon or lesson I'll look at several translations but when I'm actually reading the text publically, I read from the NIV. If there happens to be something about the NIV in the text I'm reading from that I disagree with then I can bring it out and give my reasons why I think another translation is better. Overall, I think the NIV is the best for public reading, not too dynamic but not too wooden either.
@Comyndoc
@Comyndoc 3 года назад
The NIV 2011 version is the best and most up to date Bible for study and preaching. I do compare to the actual Greek text when in the NT, and look up key Hebrew words as well.
@MAMoreno
@MAMoreno 3 года назад
I don't care for the NIV, but I will say that the 2011 edition removed some of its main problems and generally made it more accurate. No more "the smallest of _your_ seeds" nonsense.
@David_VZ77
@David_VZ77 3 года назад
I’d be curious about Dr Wallace’s opinion on the differences or changes from the NIV 1984 vs NIV 2011
@brando3342
@brando3342 3 года назад
@David Zant My NIV from 2003 is not gender neutral, where as it seems the latest NIV has gone gender neutral. I'm really glad I have my older version because much is lost from this change and nothing is gained.
@Airik1111bibles
@Airik1111bibles 3 года назад
He would say they went more feminist/gender neutral .. Angry lesbians and Trans people need bibles too.😏
@gabrielangelo9937
@gabrielangelo9937 3 года назад
"Readability and accuracy the NIV is the best... It tries to follow natural english, the work that has done into this translation... the work that is going on to it is by highly rated scholars behind it... it is examined, reexamined and re-reexamined through the decades."
@timcarr6401
@timcarr6401 2 года назад
@@brando3342 The 2003 edition is the TNIV.
@michaelburnette4518
@michaelburnette4518 3 года назад
Excellent interview, but especially enjoyed your George Bailey impersonation.
@rosiej.1473
@rosiej.1473 3 года назад
Excellent information. How do you respond to Truth in Translation by Jason David BeDuhn, that states the New World Translation is the best? (that is how JW's understand that book) I am no longer a JW but my husband still is and he points to this book.
@onemarktwoyou
@onemarktwoyou 3 года назад
KJV may not be the height of modern scholarship, but it is the best for memorizing verses.
@mikemaid5350
@mikemaid5350 3 года назад
It is better show me one error.
@christo-chaney
@christo-chaney 2 года назад
@@mikemaid5350 check our Isaiah 40.3 in Hebrew and then compare that to the KJV. Why does the KJV say “The voice of him that cries in the wilderness…” when voice doesn’t have the definite article and there is no “of him” in the original Hebrew? Also it says that the voice is in the wilderness but the Masorah that the translators used doesn’t say the voice is in the wilderness…
@craigime
@craigime 6 месяцев назад
​@@mikemaid5350just one?
@dpcrn
@dpcrn 3 года назад
I am surprise he didn’t mention Youngs literal translation I’m talking about Word for Word translations.
@nbenefiel
@nbenefiel 11 месяцев назад
I inherited my father’s edition of the Anchor Bible when he died. I had given him 30 some volumes one Christmas after I got my first real job and he purchased the rest. It is the work of around 800 scholars, Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Muslim, and secular. It tends to have about 2 lines of text and 2 pages of footnotes. When you get through it, you have a huge sense of accomplishment.
@5crownsoutreach
@5crownsoutreach 2 месяца назад
Great coverage, and the taxonomy charts are very helpful. Would like to hear his views on the Darby Bible. Darby was a genius linguist, I've appreciated his translation, and the ASV follows him pretty closely. I do wonder of their connection.
@pastorbills8039
@pastorbills8039 3 года назад
good stuff. "'word for word' and 'most accurate' are not the same question."
@thetruthapologetics879
@thetruthapologetics879 3 года назад
Exactly, "word for word" doesn't mean "same meaning" in the new language the words are translated to. I don't see how people find it hard to understand.
@jamesmccloud5166
@jamesmccloud5166 3 года назад
@@thetruthapologetics879 Thats not the problem. Once you introduce this heavy interpretational element in a translation, it becomes difficult to ascertain when a translator is potentially going overboard. All translation is interpretation, but some interpret more than others. A lot more than others. A better idea would be to use footnotes to either highlight what a word literally means, or to "interpret" it (in the footnotes) what it likely means. This is already done to some extent, but needs to be done more rather than make changes in the text that dont directly reflect in the originals. For instance: in the town and the city example, a two word footnote would have suffices however the text read. Some idioms just cannot be translated literally, but those are exceptions. Also, dont forget that some translators actually want to make the gospel more "palatable", and that affects the way they interpret the text. This is why many advocate a more literal translations for study purposes. This does not eliminate the problem but sure does reduce it.
@jamesmccloud5166
@jamesmccloud5166 3 года назад
I like the NET because of its apparatus. I would never buy an NET just for reading - but for study - I think its one of the best Bible products out there.
@thetruthapologetics879
@thetruthapologetics879 3 года назад
@@jamesmccloud5166 The literal words we need is to understand definitions and deeper meaning and cultural meaning, other than that often the interpretation expresses intended context correctly. Of course exceptions are there...
@jamesmccloud5166
@jamesmccloud5166 3 года назад
"This is why many advocate a more literal translations for study purposes. " The idea of using a word-for-word is not to merely understand what the text says and leave it at that, but rather, to encourage to learn what the phrasing means by doing a more thorough study on it (likely using other resources). If one is only stuck with, say, the NASB and no other resource, the NASB will not be as useful to him as if he used the NASB as a starting point to get deeper in the text. For casual reading - I find the KJV or the ESV second to none. The NASB or the NKJV is probably not the best translation for devotional reading - at least for those not used to it.
@Nick-wn1xw
@Nick-wn1xw 2 года назад
This had some great points but (always a but) I noticed the inability to pick an English translation to MEMORIZE from. If I am going to bother to memorize I want to feel confident both in it’s accuracy as well as in its ability to convey what the writers said in a clear way. I have a lot of translations available but I read, study and memorize from the ESV. I trust it and I can recommend it without any hemming and hawing.
@michaelharrington75
@michaelharrington75 2 года назад
ESV is a great translation.
@VicRibeiro777
@VicRibeiro777 2 года назад
I love Dr Wallace, and his work, but remember, he has a not so small axe that he is sharpening. He invested a lot in the NET. And it shows. Having read and compared all the translations he talked about, I would NOT put the NET as the "best" in whatever category. Admittedly, that is because I personally enjoy a more literal translation. What the NET does offer is a wealth of study and textual notes, and for that... It is FANTASTIC. But, as Translation itself, it is too dynamic equivalent for my taste. At least he acknowledged the ESV, and for serious Bible study, trying to get to the meaning of what is being said, it is probably one of the best currently available. The ESV, LEB, and CSB for more conservative evangelicals, the NIV and NLT for more devotional reading, and definitely the NET for textual and study notes.
@jonasaras
@jonasaras Год назад
I’d add the NKJV to the list of translations to memorize from
@JayMoreau
@JayMoreau Год назад
KJV is far and away the easiest for memorization.
@craigime
@craigime 6 месяцев назад
​@JayMoreau it's not
@lonewulf44
@lonewulf44 2 года назад
What version does Mike hold up first, the NET bible that has the major text and translation verbiage they discuss. Everything I see online doesn't have that amount of notations around the scripture?
@youtoo2233
@youtoo2233 Год назад
I'm really into the Amplified Bible and the ERV(Easy to Read version)lately!
@jerrynkathy
@jerrynkathy 3 года назад
That Dan doesn't have a better opinion of the CSB disappoints me but not in an angry way. I have invested a tidy sum in several CSB editions over the past year: Life Essentials Study Bible by Gene Getz, Tony Evans Study Bible - both authors of the study materials some of DTS's best, and of course the CSB Study Bible. I love that the CSB fills the sweet spot between the ESV and NIV. I can hand a copy to an 8 year old to an 80 year old and they'd both understand what they read without much difficulty. I think of the readability of CSB as the NLT on the Keto diet - every bit as clear using fewer words to say the same thing. 🙂 I can't argue with his translations choices for their categories. I can't remember why I gave up on the NRSV. When that first arrived in the Life Application Bible, I was pleasantly surprised by how it read. So smooth. Oh well.
@androidboy1289
@androidboy1289 3 года назад
I have NET Bible 📖 😁 It is Amazing! Also NASB, ESV, NKJV, and THE LIVING BIBLE...
@paulturner3553
@paulturner3553 Год назад
I started with the NIV some 40+ years ago, but have preferred the NAS the last 30 years. I read the RSV in the morning and the NAS at night.
@ronmelvinbalilo3459
@ronmelvinbalilo3459 3 года назад
How about CSB? What is Dr. Daniel Wallace's comments on the CSB?
@cpoole419
@cpoole419 3 года назад
He said it’s good, not the best. Denomination driven.
@rodneyjackson6181
@rodneyjackson6181 3 года назад
Despite all they said, I like the NLT, NKJV, KJV, NASB and the Geneva Bible. My top 5. A must with me is readability and accuracy. I am not too concerned with the elegance side. Give it to me straight.
@VicRibeiro777
@VicRibeiro777 2 года назад
Straight? Try some interlinears… 🙂
@taylorj.1628
@taylorj.1628 2 года назад
I absolutely love Robert Alter's Hebrew Bible (AKA Old Testament) translation. It is super faithful to the literary form and repeated words and phrases in the original language. It also has notes l
@joshyam4026
@joshyam4026 2 года назад
Indeed indeed. From a Jewish perspective, he made a fresh sense out of the Hebrew idioms, especially in Psalms.
@pattube
@pattube 6 месяцев назад
I'm not as fond of Alter's notes as I am of his translation. Alter certainly is a fine literary scholar, but he's largely beholden to a more secular Judaism and his biblical and theological notes often reflect that. However the linguistics portions of his notes are valuable to read. And his Hebrew Bible translation as a whole is pretty good. For example, I enjoyed his rendering of Ecclesiastes, especially the Hebrew word "hebel" or "hevel" which is so central to understanding the meaning of the book and which many English translations fail to capture. In fairness, it is as elusive as chasing the wind to translate "hebel" into English! In any case, Alter translates "hebel" literally as "mere breath". I think that's probably the best we can do. Or something similar like "vapor" or "mist" would work as well (e.g. Ardel Caneday's article on translating it as "vapor" and Jason DeRouchie's article on translating it as "enigma").
@abramtillabuild8477
@abramtillabuild8477 3 года назад
I'm looking now for a good Net Bible as I have a KJV, ESV, NIV, is the Net Bible by Thomas Nelson a good Net bible one to buy? Or what NET bible exactly do you recommend? as there is a few different Net bibles I have found now.
@TedBruckner
@TedBruckner 3 года назад
Peace and Grace to you, Abram, from God Almighty and Ho=is Son Lord Jesus Christ. Please allow me to share truth with you as you are inquiring as to bible tranlations to aquire. May I suggest sticking to the KHV or NKJV NT and using the OT text the Church has preserved? I use this English translation: www.amazon.com/Septuagint-Apocrypha-Greek-Testament-English/dp/1635488990/ref=sr_1_6?crid=2DZNJNYCYYIG9&dchild=1&keywords=septuagint+bible&qid=1598586452&sprefix=septua%2Caps%2C271&sr=8-6 It's the Brenton English translation un-KJV Englishized/upgraded from Middle E to Modern E. And only costs $18.77. I find it good in tandem with the ABP for checking it's faithfulness and literalness. ABP is free online : www.apostolicbible.com/text.htm As with any interlinear the glosses are not always the best or precise. My next choice would be : www.amazon.com/Lexham-English-Septuagint-New-Translation/dp/1683593448/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2DZNJNYCYYIG9&dchild=1&keywords=septuagint+bible&qid=1598586614&sprefix=septua%2Caps%2C271&sr=8-3 The NETS is a fraud. The OSB althouu having a NT ( and the NKJV NT) it's on typical now too thin paper showing words throuu from other side) and it's missing the 2nd half of Is, 22:22 and has the MT rendetion uv Cain getting to the field to slay Able; it should've been better if the produce of 2 priests over 20 years in the making. I have Thompson's )corrupted 1950 repreinting :The Septuagint Bible." I don't recommend it. I had the Researchers Library version; attractive in that the type size is good but iit lacks B's footnotes plus too many typos.
@craigime
@craigime 6 месяцев назад
You can buy the thinline NET bible
@duradim1
@duradim1 5 месяцев назад
I think it wise to look at the translators themselves and their philosophies and beliefs to help guide you on your selection of Bible translation. Example: Did the translators believe in the miracles of the Bible?
@chaplainmattsanders4884
@chaplainmattsanders4884 3 года назад
03:02 (Off-point comment here: “...paraphrastic...” I learned a new adjective today!) 16:30 On-screen Summary of Dan’s top picks. 18:00 Nice little translation tree.
@kc8ppo
@kc8ppo 3 года назад
You're a saint.
@Marcus-ec1kx
@Marcus-ec1kx 3 года назад
@@kc8ppo i second that
@jenniferjack4346
@jenniferjack4346 3 года назад
Thank you!
@Unobserved07
@Unobserved07 2 года назад
Nkjv is my favorite. I do like the esv but it's nearly impossible not to see how translators read their theology into the translation at parts. Hebrews 12 is one instance. Verse 15 when the author says "lest anyone fall short of the grace of God" (nkjv) is a better translation than "see to it no one fails to obtain the grace of God"(esv). If you are just reading through these phrases might sound the same but If you look closer in study they have much different implications. Nkjv renders a closer meaning based on the context of the passage. Also there is scholarly disagreement on the TR vs NA/UBS texts. The look on the gentleman's face on the left when the TR was mentioned was one of disdain.
@fransikajohn9005
@fransikajohn9005 2 года назад
That at a false version King James know nothing about it.
@CDAinVA
@CDAinVA 2 года назад
@@fransikajohn9005 not understanding your statement. Are you saying that the NKJV is a false translation? Just trying to clarify
@fransikajohn9005
@fransikajohn9005 2 года назад
King James is attached to the 1611 version because he authorised the translation and choose the scholarly translators of 1611. The NKJV was first published in 1982 with many changes not in agreement with the AKJV. It is a false impression to attach King James to it when it is different from the original. The scriptures cannot be updated like a science text. The AKJV is my choice, I glimpse at some of the others, the majority of them false. Translators do not interpret, they translate only as interpretation belongs to the Spirit. The believers must depend on God to understand his word, he is his own interpreter. There is a devious agenda behind many of the different translations in the Roman racist religion of Christianity eg. the NIV is religiously anti-God.
@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat
@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat 2 года назад
@@fransikajohn9005 Different languages don't directly translate with literal word for word, interpretation of context and intention is required to prioritize proper meaning for actualizing the accuracy of the delivery.
@fransikajohn9005
@fransikajohn9005 2 года назад
@@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat meaning ought not to change. That's Satan in man interfering with interpretation which belongs to God only.
@andrewphilpott3220
@andrewphilpott3220 Год назад
On NIV vs ESV. I don’t understand what "understated elegance" means and why I as a bible reader would care about that. I don't take your word for it that the NIV is the most "readable and accurate" version. I prefer the word for word approach of the ESV and find it still highly readable. The NIV seems to add their own interpretation just a bit too much to be called more accurate than the ESV. Dr Wallace is of course 1000x more qualified than me, but every time I look, the ESV seems to match the Greek better without adding as much translator opinion.
@CKsoundwave
@CKsoundwave 2 месяца назад
Very interesting stuff
@1truthplease
@1truthplease 3 года назад
Dr. Wallace has the coolest library!
@ceen3237
@ceen3237 3 года назад
I wish mine required a ladder!
@aldrichemrys
@aldrichemrys 3 года назад
16:25
@bijoythewimp2854
@bijoythewimp2854 3 года назад
Thanks man, I am struggling with the KJV
@thetruthapologetics879
@thetruthapologetics879 3 года назад
Subscribed! 😊
@josephdennison4890
@josephdennison4890 3 года назад
I would like to hear your view on the Moffitt Bible
@ddr5138
@ddr5138 Год назад
The NET Bible is unnecessarily paraphrastic...I get the impression that the translators were always striving above all to sound as unlike the Tyndale tradition as possible. The notes are sometimes good, many times tedious and repetitive and state the obvious in several different ways. However in terms of layout the hardcover NET Full Notes edition is a masterpiece. That said, it's the Cambridge KJV-RV Interlinear, the NKJV and NASB for me, regardless of academic opinion.
@craigime
@craigime 6 месяцев назад
Exactly. They go out of their way to not be "traditional "
@moerivera6659
@moerivera6659 3 года назад
Love both these men, but I take Wallace’s NET as the best translation with skepticism. I mean he was the main editor on it. So it’s biased
@jackiepowell7513
@jackiepowell7513 2 года назад
What's net stand for? I m a nas girl and kjv
@syriacchristianity9007
@syriacchristianity9007 2 года назад
New English translation.
@discodisco9770
@discodisco9770 Год назад
Haha, my thoughts exactly! 😅
@tonikeltz3751
@tonikeltz3751 Год назад
I can already tell that the text size is a no go for me in that NET version. I'd rather have the notes in separate section or binding.
@craigime
@craigime 6 месяцев назад
Yeah it's not the best
@youngcolt5305
@youngcolt5305 3 года назад
I've found GNB to be very readable but I've started doubting its accuracy. Can u comment on the GNB?
@konstantinallinforchrist9867
@konstantinallinforchrist9867 2 года назад
Raphael get yourself a NIV or CSB - you'll like them!
@thomasschierer9326
@thomasschierer9326 3 месяца назад
2 Timothy2 :15 Make every effort to present yourself before God as a proven worker who does not need to be ashamed, teaching the message of truth accurately
@trishamorrisluke9404
@trishamorrisluke9404 2 года назад
Good video, but I will stick to my KJV. That's what I am most comfortable with. God Bless!
@magnifico0000
@magnifico0000 3 года назад
Never knew about the NET BIBLE!
@IndianaJoe0321
@IndianaJoe0321 3 года назад
Poor name, @Nunya Dibness, but a great translation.
@IndianaJoe0321
@IndianaJoe0321 3 года назад
You're really going to enjoy it, @Nunya Dibness.
@lincolnrileylola
@lincolnrileylola 9 месяцев назад
Have KJB, NASB 1995, NIV, DOUAY-RHEIMS 1609, HalleluYah Scriptures, what are your thoughts on the CEPHER? Especial with accuracy of translation
@rexjamerson9316
@rexjamerson9316 3 года назад
Greetings sir. Would this be the same Daniel Wallace I was on the translation Committee of the ESV and stood up for the truth concerning the personal pronouns concerning the comforter and the Holy Spirit mentioned in John 14 and 15? My understanding is the original Greek that the personal pronouns are in the neuter gender and the rest of the translators wanted to translate it in the masculine gender oh, but you objected? Is this a correct story, or if not please straighten me out. You wanted it accurately translated even though it may not have matched your personal theological views?
@rexjamerson9316
@rexjamerson9316 3 года назад
Apologies. I meant to say that were you the one it was on the translation committee. Sorry. Voice recognition doesn't always work perfectly.
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