Danger Proofing our Triumph 955cc Drag Rail | Installing Safety Cage, Harness, + More 

my only complaint is that I feel the sides are way to large for the project i feel you could shorten them 3-5" and still have clearance and probably better airflow for the radiators!

The side pods need to be angled at the front for aero. That will also protect the legs. A touch narrower would save weight while still containing everything.

I think those side pods are going to need a redesign, not only for weight reduction but also aesthetic purposes.

John, I humbly suggest that you revisit the location of the collapsible steering rod. If you hit the wall at a steep angle, it might bend the rod if it is close to the front, negating the good it was supposed to do. If it collapses further back, there might be less of a chance of kinking the rod before it collapses... Just sharing my thoughts. I am not a builder of any kind. I just wanted to share that thought with you. Thank you for a great channel and for making it better by adding Charles a few years ago... He was EXACTLY what this channel needed! Best biz decision you ever made was hiring that kid!

I'll have to see it closer to finished but I think those pods could look better and still serve their purpose if they were smaller and more like a scoop whatever you guys do I know it will be sweet either way

Maybe you've got this still coming, but the protective cage over the driver needs to be aligned with the main frame triangulation to provide maximum protection. Particularly I note that the front legs should join to a triangulation node. As currently attached, in an roll-over event, the top rail will just bend and the cage fold forward. Also .. the side pods... why?? I suggest just put the radiators above the engine and keep the sides clean.

I do want the guys at cars and cameras to achieve the pinnacle of what they are attempting,if there is one group of guys that deserve for things to work out,it’s these three guys!!Fingers crossed from me and my 8 year old son and 9 year old daughter that this project slays!!My daughter absolutely loves you guys!!!She literally cried when Charles tools where stolen!!!She is very innocent and didn’t understand why someone would steal like that!!!So a talk came from it and just know that even though the theft was not needed,a little girl learned from it,and that is a blessing as far as I’m concerned!!

Maybe there's more to be added to the frame still, but if not - I feel like it would benefit from some more triangulation - a lot of squares in there...

I think the side scoops should be made with much smaller round bar and not as far out the sides but great idea for the cooling and keeps the weight lower

I personally have built a couple cards in my day I would suggest them side boxes where you're putting the oil cooler and so forth to be triangles pointed forward for aerodynamics and be made out of a smaller tube material for weight reduction

Always great when a new C&C video shows up! Don't know how you manage it, but the very consistent Mon/Wed vids are appreciated! 👍👍

I vote to make the side panels angled similar to a top fuel dragster. It would look a lot better than the boxes. Also move that radiator/oil cooler away from the driver or build a firewall of some sort. Love the project!

Kinda freaked out for a second when John was welding the pedals in and he tossed the welder down and it landed trigger side down right on the rail! 8:35 I thought we were gonna have a runaway welder!

You guys are definitely leveling up the build quality with this one, excited to see how it turns out. Also hope you don't forget to finish welding up all those tacks on the frame! 🤣🤙

It is best to have the shoulder harnesses attached to the roll cage as close to level with the shoulders as possible(straight back), the belt should also not be hindered by the seat. Mounting it lower has the possibility of compressing ones spine in an accident and can cause some pretty nasty damage

The full-size racing seat was a good call. HANS device would be a good idea, as well. Can't wait to see this thing tearing up the dirt!

if you have the seatbelts in the current position you're gonna compress your spine in the event of a crash, the rule in drag racing as far as i've heard is that they should be mounted level with or higher than your shoulders, so some cutting and welding of the seat may be required since it looks like the hole for the seatbelts is too low for Charles and Isaac. just a bit of concern from a scandinavian. i wish you good luck with the rest of the build and i'm looking forward to the result. cheers

I think a quick disconnect steering wheel might be optimal for this machine...

I think the Theory for the side pods is sound, but the look falls short. Can't wait to see the final version.

You are killing me with these short videos, lol. I'm so excited and anxious to see how it runs and drives. Glad you are taking care of safety measures as you go. Just keeps looking better every time I see it.

You can use Zeus clips to hold the paneling on.

Holy cow those side pods are huge! I agree with some of the others here, I think you'll want to slim them down. Off road particularly they'll be so big they catch on stuff

I am glad you guys are putting on a roll cage and protecting the most important things you have - your noggins 👍👍

Best thing to do is adding of the collapsible steering shaft! A buddy of mine ended up with a new mouth wearing a full faced helmet in a older Promod that was lengthened by someone who didn't install any sort of crumple zone in the steering shaft! Needless to say, during his first few certification runs and being pretty new to drag racing, his alcohol blown engine decided to stick wide open on the last run...... which was his suppose to be the last run before full certification. Welp he locks up the brakes and pulls the chutes, turns off the fuel pumps but never killed the mag and it just kept accelerating towards the sand pits at the end of the track in upstate NY. This was his fastest run ever and since! He somehow survived his ordeal with the steering wheel and shaft which broke his face, literally breaking off his brand new Simpson helmet around his head and putting the steering shaft through his throat. He was helicoptered out in critical condition and flown to Westchester trauma unit, somehow remaining awake throughout the trip. The amazing doctors and nurses were able to stabilize him and with the amazing talents and not knowing what he actually looked like beforehand, they were able to reconstruct his entire face, eye sockets, cheek bones and jaw were all pinned and screwed back together. The nose was the least of their concerns, but they were very good at matching the rebuild to his actual facial structure. Today he is thankful to be alive, but he no longer is messing around with drag racing personally, but he's always there to lend a hand and be there for others. I don't blame him one bit after that horrific event being a little gun shy about getting back on the horse! That was his one lucky chance, and I would feel the same way about getting back behind another 2K horsepower cars steering wheel again too!

I think the scoops can be much smaller and raised up to prevent rock catch points... and shoulder straps should be Level off your shoulder or Slightly Upward, Never Down off the shoulder since that can cause Spinal Compression. So setting it level for the tallest driver is the safest possibility. Your shoulder shouldn't be higher than the belt pass through holes on the seat for the same reason

I hope you guys reconsider the size and weight of he side pods. Drag racing is all about power to weight ratio. A redesign of a smaller "scoop" using lighter weight materials would be very beneficial. Even designing it to add strength to the existing rail. Squares are not very strong.

Like the side areas, but I would never AIM the radiator filler directly at myself/the driver. Hope for the best case... but always plan for the worst to happen.

First off, I love the channel. Been here since the beginning. I hate the side scoops though. Why not put all that stuff in front of the cockpit and combine the oil cooler with the radiator so the fan cools it as well? You're adding alot of unnecessary weight where it doesn't need to be. Like I said in front of the cockpit would be good for weight distribution as well

She's kinda a mishmash of a Altered and rear engine dragster for sure guy's! Lookin pretty killer so far! 😉👍

If you're going to be sitting right next to the fuel tank, it might be a good idea to get a proper fuel cell. A proper self-sealing, puncture-proof fuel cell sure beats the burns ward any day!

Looking good so far guys hope you get enough airflow to cool and that there are no hidden issues, Looking forward to progress on this build.

C&C: you nailed it w/the intro - call it the “triple threat drag rail”

Glad to see safety being paramount on this one... I have to watch a few crash videos every now and then to remind myself. You are by far the most precious part of that vehicle. Irreplaceable!

You want those shoulder harnesses to come straight out of the back of the seat without curving in most applications. That way it doesn't create any extra strain on the straps when under tension. That being said, y'all are absolutely KILLING this build. I'm SO excited to see it do some runs. I would have designed those side scoops completely 180 degrees to what you have now. Slanted in on the front, and wider in the back. That way it's more aerodynamic but the slant would still allow for the same amount of air to enter.

Does anyone think it will wheelie? I can hardly wait until this goes down the track! This is a great build!

It’s really coming together you guys do awesome work!

You have no idea how much I love watching your channel and the progress. COMPLETELY AWESOME!

Great work with the hoop column and seat. 👍 this thing is becoming safe. My cars always had both shoulder belts connected to a single gusset. The other 3 points had their own anchor points (more gussets)

Awesome build guys. I would recommend getting an NHRA rule book. I know you will not be racing in any official races but the rule book has a lot of good info on how to build a dragster chassis for safety and performance.

I think they look very big for that cart but it looks killer all the same. Good job guys and keep up the good work!

The seat your talking about is called a full containment seat and I recommend you move the bar to hold the kirky up to that bar at shoulder height and same as the harness cause you want you shoulder harness at or just below shoulder and you can do the "wrap technique" for the shoulder harnesses if you don't wanna do tabs for them

For the shoulder belts Charles is thinking right for a mini cup. They both bolt together at a sing point. Some harnesses are actually built to be that way.

I think the new pods look awesome needs a bit of polishing but the builds still in its infancy. I cant wait to see it first rip!

Man, I can't wait to see the final product I wish you luck on this project

Starting to remind me of an xwing from starwars lol love the build!

Hope you can get in the thing with those side pods! Looking forward to the finished project, thanks

I love it keep up the great work. I hope y'all feel better

Looks like you will have fun getting into the rail. With the pods in the way. You need to bring the front of the pod back to the front of your roll cage.

I just bought a set of those same pedals! Gotta say, they're the best pedals I've ever had

Looking great boys!!!! This will be awesome 👏🏼!!! 😃😃😃😃

Awesome build. My opinion I’d build a firewall behind the seat. Mount the radiator above/behind the engine with a roof scoop. Away from debris.

You guys have come a long way since i found your channel, the build is coming along really well. Side pods do need a bit of redesign to bit bit slicker and sexier : ). Great job all around, thumbs up. Looking forward to it being done and seeing what it can do. Big hey from Alaska

Really looking good 👍. This Old Man enjoying y'all leaving your dreams. Always ready for the next video 🛵🧔💝💝💝

On those side boxes for the radiator and oil cooler. I would add the angle gussets like you have on the back and then put your wire mesh screen at that angle. Will still let plenty air in but will allow less sand/dirt as it would with the front squared off like it is

Looks great guys keep em coming.

might need a different radiator and overflow for this setup if you want to relocate where you fill from. also would be a good idea to get a radiator without a cap so the cap can be on the overflow at the back incase it has to vent, then its not pointed at you and you can fill it from the back still.

Cant wait to see the go down the strip alongside the OG drag rail

Nice going lads looking like a beast now. Keep the clips coming as much as I enjoy your builds this is THE ONE where I can't wait to see the finished build. 🇬🇧 Aaron

I don’t know guys, I think the radiator and oil cooler should be mounted up high and out of danger of flying objects. The roll cage would lend itself to a sturdy mounting area. And you really don’t need to worry about hose leakage, motorcycles don’t move as much coolant volume as autos or with as much pressure.

With the need for oil and water cooling, why not get a full-size, dual-purpose radiator with a built-in oil cooler. With the space behind the seat, you can put in a good fan setup and use those side vents (significantly downsized) to funnel air behind the seat. You can also close in the chamber behind the seat, meaning you eliminate the possibility of hot fluid spraying on the driver and you force the volume of air into the radiator. Just a thought. It does look like this will be pretty sweet.

DragWIP (work in progress). Good stuff you guys --- very very long time follower I am - like even before your intro was Ike saying "Fill in some holes" long time. Amazed at the progress but not the least bit surprised. I just keep hoping one of these days you guys build a Gasser ---- and am stoked to see what happens with that Opel (800lb gorilla in the room).

Starting to look like Formula 1 car! Looking cool as a moose. John, I think the hair cut looks better!! You were starting to look like Jack Dorsey there for a bit ;-)

Just a suggestion, your might want to use expanded metal on bottom of the radiator scoop to allow sand to fall out the bottom

I might have leaned the top back on the sidepods but I can live with it. Otherwise *triangles* and don't forget a scatter pan since you've already used up a lifetime of oil-downs at your local tracks. P.S. I'm so proud of you!

I think that you should be putting angle bracing on the front of your dragster to make sure that it won't twist or fold up.

Just a thought, you could run a big scoop from the motor up over the cage and put the rads down in the scoop so if a line blew it'd just pour all over the motor but then youve got a mess. Itd be a good fire extinguisher though. The coolant at least lol. In my head this sounded better because I wasn't thinking of the radiator blowing more hot air onto the already hot engine. Just picturing the raised scoop and hidden radiators.

Weight distribution is going to be ultra important in this thing going straight. Also tightening up the pods so that more air is forced through the oil cooler and radiator rather than around it would also be beneficial. You want your pods inside or in line with the outmost wheel edge. Aerodynamically those pods are going to hurt top speeds.

Coming along great guys.

Thank you guys for the double hoop protections.I've watched for years,and hope for many more.Angle to outer bottom of the pods up 4" for sand clearance,and they'll be fine.I think it's coming together great.Maybe brown,yellow and light green for paint,and call it "Skid Mark"?It'll scare it out of you.

Straighten the radiator and oil cooler fan blades with a flat head I love it though should add a place for cold beer in those side pods

What you should do for your brake is a handle on the side so all your feet have to worry about is gas and clutch

Budget derelict go kart to HANS device in a few episodes 👏👏 Your channel keeps getting better . Great project 👍

great stuff guys thanks.

Looking good guys love those formula 1 side pod 😀

You should try those home air filter for the side pods. It would be easy to maintain, and the filters aren't expensive. It could work

Hi guys, I think on the collapsible steering shaft should be bolted in instead of welded, with Breakaway bolts or shear pins. By welding the base,it is defeating some of the compressible lenght during a heavy hit. Plus it will be more serviceable in the future. Just throwing it out there, stay safe see you soon keep up the good work! welding the base it'll only collapse so far in a heavy hit

Good luck climbing over the side pods to get into the drivers seat.

@13:40 The frame is looking sick!

This project is coming along nicely

I get excited every time you guys show the opel , oh well .

I would be thonking along the linea of slimming down those pods and aiming airflow from L to R or vice-versa, that way you got radiator, engine then oil cooler all in one pass, you'd only need the width of one pod shared on either side. Gotta stay small to the air for any real speed, the small an area you present to the wind, the easier it is to cut through it.

you need to install a positive stop on the steering shaft, you make it a center support that weld to the frame and weld a disk on the shaft to hit the support to prevent it from moving to far back.

Might I suggest that you should move the dash/steering hoop forward about 6" and install a detachable steering wheel. I'm just a tad worried that if you need to escape in a hurry, that might present a trapped situation. Just trying to help with another set of eyes. Thanks for the content men.

I'm not sold on the indy-car look......lol.....good job !..... thanks for sharing this with us

At each intersecting point on your roll cage, add a small gusset, for added strength

I have that exact same seat for my cart I'm building. I paid well over $700 for mine tho. Along with a five point harness.

I suggest keeping the fuel cell and battery in the nose for weight distribution and redesigning the side scoops. Widening the body around the cage will make it harder to enter and exit the rail. Shorten the scoops front to back then add a small step on the front top edge of them giving more aero like a jet intake at the same time giving better access to the cockpit (pun intended lol).

Charles’s face though when he says wow that’s a lot of scoop age

Always a fun few when the new vid drops

looking back at old vids compared to now. the fabrication skills from all you guys has come so far!! love watching yall! keep it up guys!

I would say gas tank on the oil cooler side and battery on radiator side. Nice weight distribution

A dirt bike master cylinder would be best when mounted to the steering wheel someway. Even though people may think that my idea wouldn’t work, without a doubt I know these boys could make it work.

I would use a hydraulic hand brake like a drift car. That way you can launch better. One foot gas one foot clutch and a hand on the brake. Kinda like a trans brake in drag racing. Also you may want to make sure the side pods are equally weighted.

I cant wait for the next episode on this, this is going to look sick when it's done

I feel like the front to back bars should slope inward past the front pillars so it's a little more streamline I feel like it would catch a ton of drag because you got 2 big took boxes that stick out past the front wheels It's a cool idea tho can't wait to see it when it's done

just a thought , add two rails each side foward to act as a slide to protect against impact on the side pods

I like the idea of the side podsbut I think they should be more sleek and compact. Just my opinion. Keep up the good work guys!

It needs a top fuel dragster wing! That compleets the look !

It's looking great! Can't wait to see it evolve and get some use. I think the next project to tackle is to take a Prius engine, Transmission and electric motor and build yourselves a chassis from scratch for a replica "F1" car with KERS and a tuned engine. THAT would be a serious project :) Love the videos gents!!

Time for a Rivet Nut setup for the Aluminum panels