Dangerous Brake Line Routing CRF300L

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Well I was going to put the first ride of the CRF300L video out today (its up on patreon) but felt this video needed to leapfrog it. The sooner the better I think. I've seen several videos and post now about the CRF300L brake line and how it interferes with the dash. The front brake line goes right over the instrument gage, a common issue with dual sports. So to fix it many are using a zip-tie to pull it down and attaching it to the handlebars. This seems like a good fix but there is a real danger in doing so which I will explain. Not trying to beat anyone up for this. Just want to get ahead of bad information before it becomes one of those things everyone is doing. First ride video of the CRF300L can wait.
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@julianb.4713 3 года назад

I stopped noticing the brake line on my second ride because I was having a blast riding the bike!

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

haha honestly this what you should do, go have and stop thinking about it

@LostLarz 3 года назад

I remember watching you a long time ago when you would ride your dirt bike around and I didn’t have a bike but watching your videos made me want one and get into the scene and now I have a 2020 r6 and am planing on buying the r1m soon crazy how things change so fast lol

@CODFREAK159893 3 года назад

Same thing happened to me. Recently had to get rid of my 17 fz07 for financial reasons. But i got the 07 because of him and i want a sumo because of him

@Ben24636 3 года назад

I'm in the same boat but I took the dirt path I have a 07 crf250 04 cr 85 and just bought a new 21 crf110

@hunterstevens1970 3 года назад

Bro same I started on a 250 then a 650 then I graduated to a liter bike.

@willmatic84 3 года назад

😄👉🏼 I actually saw people in front of me doing this zipties the lines Im actually glad you made this so they can see what happens when you ziptie the brakes

@Scoottoots 3 года назад

I have the 300L also and yeah, mine was directly in front of the display. I needed to rotate my bars forward for ergonomic reasons. That also moved the brake line above the display and out my view. Good that you did this video. I've seen people wedging the brake line between the display and the front fairing plastic, and advising people to do similar. Yikes!

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

That's a good idea with the bars. I'm putting a CR high on mine and I imagine that will help too.

@renski8976 3 года назад

Hahaha it's never a bad thing to create videos like this and I believe you shouldn't feel like you're bashing on other's mods. You made the video out of the concern for others and that is a win in my book.

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

Good point, thanks

@renski8976 3 года назад

@@TheGardenSnake Of course man! Love the videos as always.

@metalsadman 3 года назад

@@TheGardenSnake yeah glad you made this one, as I've seen a few 300l ty channels doing this and thought it couldn't be safe. Rs

@defaultuser3410 3 года назад

Good to know, I never would have thought that would be a problem, thanks!

@evanhernandez7 3 года назад

I'm glad you put this out now. I have a trip to Colorado next week and i just replaced my brake lines and did it the completely wrong way. Would have been a shame if i blew a brake line out lol

@leesuschrist 3 года назад

I wanna build a bike that looks like Jake's drawings.

@57Jimmy 3 года назад

I believe you can find them in a pile outside the big tent at the circus!😉😂

@LifeMyWay007 3 года назад

As interesting as your manufacturer videos with Bonus Keeping People Safe. Awesome idea helping us NOT do things that Look Logical but are actually setting ourselves up for Monumental Failure.

@L3m0nzs 3 года назад

I unintentionally tucked cables under my number plate 8 months ago while cleaning plastics and realized this thanks jake

@covertherapy 3 года назад

Best thing I've seen all week was this notification 🙂

@57Jimmy 3 года назад

I too was annoyed by the brake line going right across the CRF300L display screen. But, also being aware that it MUST remain flexible and NOT have any un-natural bends in it, I pushed slightly forward to clear the screen and watched along the whole length to see where it reacts. I found that putting a zip tie between the reflector and top of the fork and pulling it ONE click at a time gave me a satisfactory view without restricting line movement, not being tight (I can easily move the zip tie) and the line has full travel because it’s tied around the protective tube and not the line itself. Mind you, I am 64(👴🏻) and my days of going ‘balls to the wall’ with hard riding are long gone and just like to trail ride and enjoy the outdoors. I will definitely keep my eye on it so it doesn’t tighten up! If the line were to break, the whole world will hear a loud, wheezing... “FFF-UUUU-HHH!”....snap, crack🤣

@timsatch9198 3 года назад

Very good video and explanation, much of which I totally agree with, BUT the brake line is rediculessly long and can only get longer as the forks compress. I agree that nothing should be done with the original rubber line, but replacing it with a more appropriate length braided line makes sense, bearing in mind it can only get longer not shorter. Looking forward to your solution and further excellent videos so I subscribed

@monkeydust100 Месяц назад

I put a small spacer under the bolt that clamps the lines in . Seems to work OK.

@crazyrebl 3 года назад

Never really bothered me. Can't wait to see what you come up with.

@DidiervL 3 года назад

Definetely going to have a second look at my lines setup as I just put steel braided lines on it.. Think Im good, but thanks for the tips Jake, if anything itll put my mind more at ease!

@mikejensen3231 3 года назад

This was super informative! You make great points. Thanks for your concern!

@thumpertorque_ 3 года назад

Can't wait to get a bike again and get back to riding. This pandemic combined with a chemical burn I had in my face, getting robbed driving Uber, an accident and emotional pain which lead to depression because of a girl made this the worst year of my life but I still have something to look forward to.

@HippoDrones 3 года назад

So many folk don't know what they are doing, ace to see a vid like this letting people know :-)

@ryanlott6309 3 года назад

I see your old fluro wheels in the background. Are you doing anything with them?

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

yeah, I'll make them a second set a wheels with more of a touring tire.

@ryanlott6309 3 года назад

@@TheGardenSnake dang. Was hoping you would want to sell them. Possibly want to trade for some oem black wheels? I just got my 2018 mt07 and I'm wanting to swap the wheels to fluro yellow and kinda convert my bike to a night fluro. I will be swapping some parts to fluro yellow. Otherwise I'll powder coat them eventually.

@xfiftycal6370 3 года назад

Crazy to think I’ve been watching Jake since I liv d in Texas 3 years ago already lived in two different states an still keeping up 😎

@hydroboy35th Год назад

Hey Jake, what about just changing the master cylinder all together? Was thinking about just lifting a whole unit from a KLX 300.

@elrobertocorlos8671 3 года назад

Thank you Jake for trying to save those who are without the knowledge --- But still ......stupid is what stupid does =L

@corecass 3 года назад

i foresee a darwin award series. and ill watch all of them.

@taylorc4476 3 года назад

You could call these new segments "The Darwin Hacks"...

@chappy0690 2 года назад

Found out the hard way myself. Not on a crf300 but still, the I installed a new headlight and needed to re route the brake line slightly, I didn't notice at the time but when the suspension compressed the brake line would come up and get caught on the speedometer. Needless to say I shat my pants on the first bend... no harm done luckily. Apart from a written off pair of kegs.

@mrcla55yguy20 3 года назад

Thanks for the information man. Very valuable.

@Minionmoto529 3 года назад

brakes are important. Nothing like not being able to prevent yourself from hitting something.

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

can't argue with that

@Minionmoto529 3 года назад

@@TheGardenSnake yes sir

@MichaelJBurnsII 2 года назад

I’ve been thinking about getting the 300L or the 300L Rally.

@Firestorm637 3 года назад

Thanks for the great explanation. I can see the problem!!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

@Jaggi96 3 года назад

On rally bikes with a high fender (same front end as dirtbikes) there's nowhere to go for the brake line above the handlebars since the loop can get caught on the nav tower. They attach it to the tripleclamps with a P clip and make it "fold" forward/out. Since the lower fixed point of the fold is on top of the forkguard there's no actual chance of it snagging the front wheel really. Also, the brakeline is kind of stiffened up because most people attach the ico cable to it with some wireloom.

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

Yeah I've see how they do... Give me one and I'll come up with something. I've got some ideas!

@resatchel4389 2 года назад

at 1:33 is that a fluidyne or fps racing radiator? look just like the ones I used to build back when I worked for them. I was the welder fab guy.

@kadunkk 3 года назад

This goes for almost all lines coming off your bars. Clutch and throttle lines can stick or pull if run wrong as well.

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

This is true

@KenpachiZarakiX 3 года назад

Can't wait for you to install a lectron on this one too! 😆

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

haha Power Commander for this one

@thinkdunson 3 года назад

7:10 it only rises half as much as the tire. so on a 10.2" travel, 5.1" is the most it can possibly rise. think of it like a pulley... since it's looped around, the distance is halved. the straight part of the tube rises equally with the tire, but the top of the loop will be half that.

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

Thats after the stiffener tube. Look how high that thing goes up, directly related to the height of the wheel. Yall gonna make me have to do a video where I loosen the triple clamps and push the forks up haha.

@westcoastmoto2063 3 года назад

Luckily mine isn't over the dash like I've seen on others. Have my warp9 wheels on. You will have to trim fork tube guards and relocate brake line mount. Can't wait to see what parts you put on. They are still hard to find in U.S

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

Everything's hard to get right now. The fork trimming and line relocation are pretty normal for SM conversions. Hope to have the wheels soon!

@mal3762 3 года назад

2ND EPISODE IS HEREEEEEEEEEEE

@paulfestmusic 3 года назад

I understand the zip tie thing would be a bad idea, but I still can’t understand why Honda made it so high to begin with. Take one look at the Kawasaki 300 and tell me why Kawi can get the brake line tucked away, but Honda can’t. I get the idea that you need a place for the line to extend upward when you compress the forks, but do you really need that much slack built in for full extensions of the forks? I’d love to see you lift the front of the bike to show exactly how far the brake line goes down when the front wheel is at the lowest point that the forks allow. I’m very curious over here, thanks!

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

I did show that in the video, look how far it moves when riding light off road. The KLX300 is just like the CRF300L, the brake line goes right across to the master. They just got it where it's not right over the dash.

@thomasbacher8996 3 года назад

The klx300sm is going to have some issues with this, the way they are routed from the factory makes the line rub on your clutch adjustment. Less than 400 miles on mine and i found it almost worn through the line.

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

Oh no

@badlife5884 3 года назад

jake awesome as always

@bondibeast 3 года назад

hey man great video, I keep hearing around the place that people are going to fit braided lines to solve the issue. can you explain how or if that solves the problem.

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

I talk about how that works and show an example in this video.

@450moto9 3 года назад

So guess what I just picked up today….. got the abs model, was there when they were unloading it from the truck. Right place right time I guess.

@kawi704racing 3 года назад

I zip tie them to my helmet. Is that dangerous?

@Spartan375X 3 года назад

3 zip ties should be good.

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

@@Spartan375X what he said

@metalsadman 3 года назад

😂

@hockeystar593 3 года назад

Reppin that 38 ride co!! Lee’s the man!!

@MXKID34 2 года назад

Get a Core Steel Braided cable and shorten it, I did my 450RL 3 inches shorter and it rocks.

@MediumRareFully 3 года назад

is this heavy and slow like the little red pig 250L?

@janniksims5740 3 года назад

It got a little more power, is a little lighter and got way better chassis and suspension

@Largetalons 3 года назад

Better suspension? News to me lol. That tuned down cbr300 motor and new ratios seem to help it move much better though.

@mechanicalcanvas 3 года назад

Can confirm 0:20 is what owning a sidecar is like.

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

you didn't tell me that before two wheeling haha

@jimperry4420 3 года назад

One guy loosened the banjo slightly and turned it just a hair and it seemed to work. Woodsman Adventure guy.

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

I think his is a non abs so sure that works.

@MonkeyButtRides 3 года назад

OH MY GOD, I can't believe people actually zip tied their brake line.....hopefully you helped a few people. You and I went to the same art school.

@metalsadman 3 года назад

Ive seen a lot of 300l yt channels doing it because it's bothering them although understandablr but thought if couldn't be safe. Glad this vid came out.

@Daniel-dj7fh 3 года назад

Yes more "Bike mod nono's"!

@Spartan375X 3 года назад

I might reroute my brake line on my CRF230M, it runs behind the headlight and flexes (back and forth) on the fork. That's how it came from the dealer when I got it.

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

Set up guys don't always do it right. Try looking at pic's of the bike to compare.

@Spartan375X 3 года назад

I compared pictures and checked the brake line. It doesn't seem to be an issue. Strange that it's different now that I saw this subject.

@crashdummysm 3 года назад

So, if one raises his bars, should him get a longer brake line, too?

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

Maybe, you’d probably have to rise it a lot to have a problem. The way to tell is to put it on a stand with the front wheel in the air. Then see how tight the line is.

@colinclarke9379 3 года назад

seems like the length is a bit much. even on your fz. my wr450 line only sticks up a couple inches above the cluster

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

The thing to remember is what's the fully unloaded fork like. If I jack the front wheel up on the CRF300L it's only a few inches of slack. Now the FZ is a bit long but that was a custom set the I ordered. If I did it again I'd probably make the left one like 2-3 inches shorter.

@joethompson9503 3 года назад

after my first day of riding I dont even notice it any more

@mt1885 3 года назад

Honda CRF300L they cut cost non-removable sub-frame, 1970s suspension (non-adjustable), 300lbs+ and cost nearly $6000 (Buy a KTM EXC-F pay the extra money) this bike is like way over-priced. Then you have to buy a TUNER as it is super lean and forget about power.

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

So you hate everything hahaha

@jakezark 3 года назад

another one of those things that i've seen but never looked at if you know what i mean

@MrFurley69 3 года назад

Sometimes things are just made a certain way because they're easier

@t0mmyP1cklez 3 года назад

Anti death game strong

@yorkchris10 3 года назад

In the days of cables you could cause automatic braking because of poor routing.

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

You can still cause automatic clutch and throttle!

@MonkeyMagic4649 3 года назад

It mostly just leads to me forgetting my indicators are on.

@ivyivyivy316 3 года назад

The 701 has it mounted so the lines scratch the headlight cover up atleast it doesn't block the dash though lol

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

Haha that’s such a ktm/husky move

@ivyivyivy316 3 года назад

@@TheGardenSnake they just fixed it on the 2021 to be fair lol after 5 years

@monstercherry99 3 года назад

luv u bub

@BabyRandyRydeZ 3 года назад

Just take the plastics off the bike and bring those to the shop to get the graphics made?? Ride a nakie CRF300L around fo a lil bit.....

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

haha no

@spartancaptain5691 3 года назад

Do you have this bike? Because literally strapping it the handle bar does not hinder it in any way. It still has full movement .

@Mayheezy592 5 месяцев назад

Captain Dingus

@Master_of_Games1776 3 года назад

Second one here! Whats up Jakinator? ;)

@kyleman1313 3 года назад

Alternative path: Allow natural selection to run its course.

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

Some times natural selection runs into others 🤷‍♂️

@MotoVet86 3 года назад

Just get a core Moto short line. Problem solved

@shakeymoto4532 3 года назад

AWWW THEM HONDA BOYZZ ARE A BUNCH A IDIOTS!!! I KNOW BETTER , TIE THEM LOSE THANGS UP TIGHT!!!! Found myself LMAO! No seriously I like this video and yes you should pass on your motorcycle wisdom more often.

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

hahaha

@russellnelson5768 3 года назад

I agree brakes are dangerous.

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

the worst, best delete them

@BraappMalaysia 3 года назад

🤦‍♂️ zipped tight brake line? so it’s not in malaysia only. Lol

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

oh no is out there too

@SOCMMOB 3 года назад

I use wireless brake lines. WiFi master cylinder paired with a WiFi caliper. Problem solved.

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

Fancy

@imaakillaa 3 года назад

ok, hear me out. Bluetooth Braking. Boom.

@dualsportadventure 3 года назад

Hello Jake. Thanks for the safety warning. Here's another idea for the front brake line: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8tX-JMpUu08.html

@recklessrickey9513 3 года назад

If the brake line is in the way just cut it lol Don’t do this

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

hahaha

@monocogenit1 3 года назад

People are stupid. I see guys on dirt bikes all the time with the brake hose run outside the fork leg.

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

I do too. On supermoto setup you have to some times. But all the bike like guys do it that way for no reason. Normally with a big loop of line sticking out too.

@duncandehulst2016 3 года назад

Clean your camera lens ya dingus 😂😁

@TheGardenSnake 3 года назад

It's on the sensor and its a point and shoot. I had to order a 000 phillips just so I can take it apart.

@circleworks1510 3 года назад

do you want to be my dad, i dont have one

@witnessedeagle1164 3 года назад

First lol

@cheapvodka9942 3 года назад

3rd

@advorlando9855 5 месяцев назад

Did you make this video to point out a problem, then put your solution on another video to maximize views....shame on you😅😅😅

@TUBINGJESSY 2 года назад

You are talking a little too much for my taste.

@I_love_liberal_tears 3 года назад

Totally get where you are coming from, but I have rode dirtbikes and motorcycles my whole life and never have I rode a bike with the brake line as extreme as the 300L. I feel like they could have done something slightly different in the design to not be so ungodly huge in front of the display. Just my 2 cents