(Dangerous controlling) Bonanza Makes Emergency Landing at LAX and catches fire!  

Engine catches fire, gigantic airport right below you, declare emergency. First thing ATC asks "Can you go to a different airport?" Nice work LAX

For a pilot to have an engine out scenario and a potential fire, ATC made the emergency significantly harder and more stressful than it should have been. There was absolutely zero support for the pilot and glad that he managed to make it out alive. This is happening way to often. Thanks for the video.

Pilots, you need to remember, if you declare an emergency, you TELL the controller what you will be doing and what you need. It is their job to clear the airspace ahead of you. The controller can ask if you can do something but you don’t have to accept it.

This is an example of EXACTLY what to do if you lose an engine over LAX. Don't go to SMO, don't go to HHR. Take the miles of flat concrete at LAX, not the postage stamp airports just because you're afraid to inconvenience some jets. Well done, Bonanza 13V. He should have had trucks waiting and a tug off the runway or high speed taxiway. To send him to ground and make him catch fire while trying to taxi afterward was ridiculous.

Worst job I’ve ever seen by a controller in an emergency situation. He should get a call. He was demanding, vectoring, and totally unhelpful.

That tower controller did a horrible job of assisting a pilot with a engine failure and fire !! This dude should be fired !!

LAX said everything except "Get the fuck out of my airspace! Can't you see we're busy?" What terrible controlling.

After working in air traffic control in The UK for 32 years I cannot believe how badly the tower controller handled that emergency .He had absolutely no idea of the gravity of the situation the pilot was in. Granted this was was an extremely unusual scenario for a controller at a major airport but it is how controllers handle unusual occurrences which defines their ability level.

The PPL in me is completely confused. Why would ATC elect to let two jets land with a bonafide “engine out” emergency trying to land ahead of em? And all that “verify cleared to land” crap wasn’t helping any. I kind of wish the pilot would’ve replied, “I’m BUSY!” I sure as hell would’ve.

One of the worst ATC performances I’ve seen in a long time. This could have proved fatal for the pilot dealing with an emergency. I get it, he messed up their system but lives were at risk.

These are the worst controllers in the world! Engine out landing and they want him to taxi under own power? They’re surprised his radio goes out? SOP is to shut off electric. They’ve forgotten all the basics.

I get it that this is LAX and it's extremely busy, and a GA emergency is incredibly disruptive. However, the Bonanza declared an engine-out emergency and ATC is trying to work him in to the landing jet traffic, on a specific runway. He should have been told "cleared to land any runway", and the two Air Carriers should have been told to go-around. ATC had him flying across the approach path of both carriers which I think was very dangerous.

Flew a C5 mission through LAX long ago. We were obviously not familiar with the airfield ground gave us complicated taxi instructions but got stepped on mid way through so we didnt get part of it. We asked him to repeat and all he would say was "does it sound like I have time to repeat myself". Classy controllers at LAX.

They CROSSED a jet in front of the emergency aircraft landing in 24L. Seriously that controller should lose his job.

What a fucking horrible Tower Controller! I would telling him I am landing get people out of my way.

Emergencies are scary for pilots and controllers in different ways , as a controller, I have to say that was awful! This happens way too much. ATC did nothing by the book regarding emergency procedures! Just plain TERRIBLE. This controller is very lucky the pilot made it to the airport.

When I did ground to air comms in the RAF I understood ANY aircraft in distress was to take priority over all other aircraft, regardless of size or POB and could choose any action they saw fit. These controllers appeared to just want the distress aircraft to be out the way, so they could land the larger jets as if everything was normal. Shocking.

What happened to “ cleared any runway , say souls on board and intentions when able” then clear the Emer acft path? What a maroon of a controller! That pilot did great!

Gliding with the engine on fire, ATC wants him to avoid landing aircraft, and give him a specific runway to land on? That is the mostest wrongest way to handle an emergency. All traffic should've been put in a holding pattern so the Bonanza could have its choice of landing spot.

WOW--declaring emergency and seems like tower is doing him a favor allwoig him to land at LAX!!! fired is the understatment of the year!!!

Hey tower I know you’re a busy bravo but this is still a life at risk. Tell that landing traffic to go around and give the dead stick, engine smoking pilot any runway he can land on to not die. Worth the delay. If you’re giving a caution wake turbulence to a dead stick emergency, there’s a clue. And a clue why he’s not following your pilot car or responding. And most importantly, if someone calls in with an emergency, you don’t clear an aircraft on the ground to do anything before responding to them. Lots more training needed.

LAX had some of the best controllers in the country. What the hell happened? That controller is an idiot.

Pilot should have told the controller he has a number for him to call.

LAX unable, standby. Then do whatever you need. They can move everyone else.

I just declared and emergency----In an in-flight emergency requiring immediate action, the pilot in command may deviate from any rule of this part to the extent required to meet that emergency." Speed restrictions? Gone. Airspace procedures? Gone. IFR clearance limits? Gone.

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG with this idiot controller. He acts imperious and has his priorities all F'd up. He needs to be fired regardless of DEI or whatever. Are they doing contract hires like KLGB or was this an FAA employee? Actually, it sounded like an uncoordinated comical zoo after B- 113v landed.

I guess the little plane does not pay the bills at LAX and gets treated as homeless.....

That was utterly chaotic, The Controller was less than useless. He provided nothing but confusion to that Pilot in the Bonanza. God help LAX if he's ever on duty and they get a major crash.

ATC: "you're closer to Hawthorne do you want to go there?" Translation: "I don't want to have to deal with you, can you go anywhere but here?"

this ATC is part of the classic kind of people that do the job like a robot without any capacity of interpretation of the situation or deviation from the ordinary routine this people should absolutely NOT be atc or pilots just an office suits them best

Atc didn't cover itself with glory this time.... Go away, no? you see 25L? Yes. Well, you can't land there! dodge airliners, wake turbulence.....

The controller should be immediately suspended. This was totally unacceptable! This pilot had the right to all of the air space. These controllers could have easily had blood on their hands. Ever heard of and demanded a single frequency operation. 20,000 hour retired airline captain here. I have flown into LAX hundreds of times… what a disgrace!!! Worse case if handled properly a couple of diversions to Ontario.

Can't talk right now guys, I'm on fire...

In an emergency you do NOT have to respond to ATC clearances unless it's safe to do so. Aviate, navigate, communicate. Declare your emergency, tell tower which runway you're landing on, then manage your aircraft. This controller should've had each aircraft on final do a go-around and conducted a ground stop on everyone still on taxi ways until the emergency is resolved.

This was a 💩show that didn’t need to happen. Pilot didn’t expressly announce a Mayday, but the words, “I’m on fire and I’m landing” are good replacements. It sounds like this particular ATC voice didn’t really want to be bothered with a flaming Bo,,but that’s not his choice. It is, however, his JOB! ATC could have/probably should have told all traffic inside the OM to go around until they got this guy safely on the ground and out of the way. Instead, he tells him to taxi thereby making sure that oil gets dropped everywhere AND the resultant fire probably killed that airplane once and for all. Send Mr Controller guy back to Chino Airport for remedial training and recertification. If he can manage to coordinate traffic there without killing anyone, maybe he can control the Ground Ops trucks back at LAX.

caution wake turbulence!!! Are you kidding me? What's he supposed to do with no engine? Holy Crap!

did I misunderstand or did he assign him every runway on the ground?

Pathetic ATC work.

You declare an emergency and state intentions. If you have time for further comms, then that is a courtesy. This controller should be canned immediately

Imagine giving this as a hypothetical emergency scenario in an interview. Alarm bells would be ringing for me as soon as the interviewee states that they aren’t sending the jets around. As in, I would be questioning whether this ATC layman has the right brain for this job before they’ve reached the college, and here we are in a real life scenario.

Well he didnt use the magic words MAYDAY 3x. ATC never asked for SOB and fuel state.. crazy stuff!

Too many comments suggesting the pilot should have called mayday x3 but, let's see... I'm over a heavily populated area... my engine has shut down and is on fire so that big fan out front is not going to help, smoke may be coming into the cockpit and I'm aware the engine mount could be heat compromised so if the engine departs the aircraft I'm dead from a radical CG shift or maybe an explosion. Perhaps I'm a little rattled and I didn't want to chat so instead of mayday and a conversation regarding the emergency I'll just tell the moron in the tower the situation and assume he'll do whatever he has to so I can stay alive if I even make it to the airport. Also, I think I'd much rather land dead stick with abundant runway and say, maybe... fire services. They call it PIC (Pilot in Command) for a reason and in that kind of situation you tell them what you need and your intentions and then FLY THE DAMN AIRPLANE. I'm 4800 commercial and NOTHING scares the hell out of a pilot more than FIRE. You don't have time to chit chat or switch radio frequencies and have the conversation all over again with a different tower. ALL controllers should be pilots so they might have a better understanding of situation like this... it's not a video game... it's life and death.

Tower controller needs to be pulled offline and retrained. What an utter fool. I would have told him to shut the hell up. Emergency aircraft, move everybody.

Aircraft declares an emergency and this is the response?! Heads need to roll here! Absolutely unacceptable! An aircraft in distress has the right of way OVER EVERY OTHER AIRCRAFT! FAA needs to look into this!😢

Appalling ATC

Thanks for embarrassing the rest of us, local controller. Jesus, send this dude to FSS in Alaska

I'm absolutely certain that the checklist for an engine fire in a Bananza ends with getting the hell out and as far from the aircraft as possible as soon as you can get the last piece to stop moving, not answering damnd fool questions on the radio and taxiing half way around a large airport behind a "follow me". I'm equally sure that SOPs at any airport with a valid FAA operating certificate call for ARFF to be rolled to any fire within the airport boundary, and for that to take absolute priority over anything non-emergency related that is happening anywhere at the airport, and absolutely not to have the aircraft taxi around behind a "follow-me" once it has safely stopped.

Did none of the people on the ground hear him say his engine was out? Why did they not have someone to get him off the runway rather than keep asking him why he wasn’t moving?

Like if you think Bonanza guy is running for his life before the tanks go??????

The controllers seem to think a small Bonanza with an engine out emergency doesn't warrant keeping other traffic away

Let this be a lesson to all of you pilots. Don't go bringing your smoking, burning aircraft here. We got no time for that.

After all that I am sure a lot of people are asking, 'dang why didn't the guy just cruise into Hawthorne?" Oh well.

LAX controllers have major attitude. Used to fly a Caravan in their in the late 80's.

That chart is also very old. Echo is correct but Romeo is at the end of echo on the approach side of 24L labeled as victor on this chart.

Any emergency aircraft takes priority over all other aircraft.

Agreed that controller should be fired All those jets had functional engines N Fing way I’m passing a good runway for one farther away Emergency Unable Move all the other traffic

That's some confusing graphics, let alone the ATC audio. 🤔 Was Cessna 6227 crossing 24L directly below N113V at the start of the video??? 🤔🤔

With an incoming emergency, "dead stick" to put other aircraft on the parallel runway puts those aircraft in danger. Maybe they didn't have to, or couldn't stop everything and give him "clear to land, any runway" but they couldn't have accommodated him better that.

Newer controller following his training? Altitude was 3,300 feet…the runway at Hawthorne is just over 2 linear miles from 25L (one long runway length away) If the pilot was already flying southbound perhaps he was trying to help the pilot with a closer option that could help everyone simultaneously?

Lucky controller. If anybody had got hurt he’d be in court for the next ten years explaining why he did what he did.

Very interesting this one. Highlights USA vs elsewhere with “Mayday” vs “Emergency” same thing? Highlights “engine failure” vs “power loss gliding now.” Highlights ATC lack of understanding what engine failure actually means. ATC lack of understanding the stress the average possibly private pilot (no matter how much experience) WILL be under. Dont they teach ATC something like this?……. ATC “copied emergency power out gliding cleared to land any runway let me know as you go you will be fine just fly the aircraft” Then work the other traffic. Then

Holy crap... This ATC performance was WAY below standard.

"Do you need any further assistance?" I'm certainly not going to provide it, or anything, but I'm obligated to ask.

The pilot did a great job, the controller not so much. What I don’t understand is why they expected an aircraft with a possible engine fire to taxi. Roll off the runway if you can but follow the memory items ie shut down get out pronto.

Horrible tower controller

Controller gets an F and should get a number to call. The pilot wasn't that sharp, either.

This controller needs to be fired

Give these controllers in trianing a break. He clearly has no sense of urgency for a light aircraft.

13V Cleared to land ANYWHERE and ALL LAX TRAFFIC LANDING CLEARANCE CANCELLED..GO AROUND... What the heck were these controllers doing mixing the emergency aircraft and normal traffic.... Time for some remedial training.

Typical LAX… perhaps it’s the slower pace of my local ATC (MFR) that allows them to be better understanding. Sheesh.

The FAA must be scraping the bottom of the barrel for controllers.

Roger 13Victor, advise when you have airport perimeter road in sight. If radio is still on advise if you require further assistance. Good night.

Sure different than any emergency handling I have heard

As a ppl, the was a joke of a atc operation. Did they even roll the trucks??

If the engine was out completely I don't think it was stated clear enough, the controller seemed to continue as he had normal flying capability. Maybe ATC thought he was dual engine as they are used to see all day. Nice of the jets to not flip him off the taxiway, that would have been an eventful day..

What part of engine failure did he not understand?

That’s not a Bonanza in the clipart.

What is it with American pilot's and their incessant aversion to saying *MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY* ? That whole pathetic "conversation" about his emergency could have been avoided by saying those *three* important attention getting words. Don't now that airspace but if he was closer to Hawthorn then why continue on the LAX? Curiosity question and not related to the pilot's aversion to saying MAYDAY x 3.

I was going to ask if your thumbnail was an actual photo, but I see now in your description it is not. Not a fan of that but guess it gets the attention.

Yet another SEP causing absolute chaos at a major airport in the U.S. it's only a matter of time before you guys have another Cerritos/North Park event.

I’m sorry folks, but this guy flew past 2 very long runways and away from KHHR that has a fire department right next to the runway. I learned to fly in the LA basin and flew there for almost 30 years. It looks like he came through the special flight rules area at 3500 feet which should have been plenty of altitude to safely make Hawthorne or either of the south complex LAX runways. Glad the guy made it but in my mind he stayed in the air longer than necessary.

WTF happened to any runway available?

haha... I wonder if they still changed him the $100 landing fee.

Undoubtedly one of the worst pieces of ATC I have ever seen/heard in 50 years.

I recall about 10 years ago, it was mentioned in the news the FAA would be doing equity hires for new controllers.

They could’ve totally landed at HHR. By the time they landed on 24L they could’ve been inside the FBO at HHR

Sounded like a cluster phrack.

One of the absolute worst controllers I've heard handle an emergency. He was little help to the pilot.

From the point the video started he was actually closer to Hawthorne Airport than 24L. But I am not a pilot and the man couldn't miss LAX visually, but Hawthorne might be harder to see. Although a bit easier since Space X has a Falcon9 rocket as a landmark that is hard to miss. Seems like it would have been a lot safer to go to Hawthorne. That said the controller should have helped way more than he did. Glad no one was hurt.

So he's overhead LAX and the controller tries to send him to Hawthorne? What The Absolute Fuck? Are you trying to kill him?

Did the pilot ever actually call Mayday? That might have helped get the seriousness across to ATC more forcefully.

The controller not a great job

What a terrible job of this controller !!!

Controller: sitting on his fat *ss in a chair on the ground. Pilot: trying his best not to die in the next few minutes. The law used to say the PIC wins. These days? Who knows.

Pilot declared mayday??

That was a terrible terrible AT Controller. Fire him.

Absolutely appalling assistance for an aircraft experiencing an emergency but the pilot did not call Mayday Mayday or Pan Pan. The controller should be fired, likely never hired in the first place, and the whole incident needs to be reviewed by the @FAA and @NTSB. What are your thoughts @blancolirio ?

i am an expert on RU-vid videos and I would have to say, i can't go for that, no can do

Horrible assistance.

He just didn't get it.