It's a myth. Unless your machine is part of a large LAN, there is no risk of an unprompted attack. It's never happened. Your machine is far more likely to be bricked by a Windows 10 update. In the last six years, my corporate Windows 10 workstation, with three malware scanners running, has been bricked by updates three times. The LAN has fallen victim to a ransomware attack Meanwhile, my Vista and 7 home machines just keep dancing along.
If it really _was_ that "dangerous" to keep using Windows 7, now it no longer gets security updates, how come we aren't hearing about a _ton_ of people complaining that their computers are now essentially unusable due to virus and malware infections? How come we never heard about (or hear about to this day) the same thing with XP?? It's not like the _moment_ the last security patch goes out for an OS it _suddenly_ and _immediately_ becomes overwhelmed with attacks. The risk is basically the same as it is for _any_ OS - even the most current ones. It all depends on how careful you are using the internet, and not clicking random links in emails or installing software from dodgy providers etc. In fact, you could argue the most current or newest OS's are often _more_ at risk _because_ they're new, and therefore there are still vulnerabilites that haven't been fixed with security patches/updates yet. Whereas older systems _have_ had plenty of security fixes/patches/updates and so many (but obviously not _all_ ) vulnerabilities have already been dealt with - at least the most threatening ones. Not to mention, the older an OS gets, the _more_ secure it arguably gets. This is down to the fact that few people creating/hosting/using viruses and malware are going to bother targeting an OS with such tiny user numbers. They're going to go after the one with the highest market share, since that's where all their potential victims are, and they operate on a mass-scale level since that increases the odds of them being successful by a huge amount. Not to mention viruses and malware _do_ depreciate over time. Coding languages change, some die altogether, OS's fundamentally change how they operate under the hood, the older versions of viruses and malware stop being worked on/used/hosted since they likely will not work with newer systems - or they got continually updated until they no longer work on the older system. And those that create said viruses or malware likely aren't going to waste their time creating something brand new, entirely and only designed to infect older systems that fewer people are using - it's just not worth their time and they're likely not going to make much money that way. Not to mention they know that those willing to stick with such an old OS have a higher chance of taking their system off the internet for good (or modern sites no longer cooperate with their old browsers) - so they can't infect those systems any way.
I still use Windows 7 Pro on an old Dell Optiplex to play my old games, games that Windows 10 doesn't know how to play. It's not connected to the internet though. And let's face it, the only reason Windows 7 is no longer safe is only that Microsoft ended its support to forcibly remove everyone to Windows 10 and now 11. I hear there are still people in the outback of calendar still using windows 95 because they are power.
My Windows 7 PC bought back in 2011 still working today, never caught a virus and never ran onto major problems. Though it's rarely online anymore apart from updating antivirus.
@@Britec09 this rest of users your referring to, most of them don't know anything about a pc and do really dumb stuff on the internet, visit shady sites, open things without regard, and just plain trust their computer too much. for you to make a video saying the world has this problem is just as bad. sorry if the truth hurts, but if you don't do dumb crap on your computer your 100% safe. I run windows 7 on my 2nd gen i5 for the last I don't remember how long. do I have security installed? NO do I have anti virus installed? NO have I had a single issue? also NO. why ? because I'm careful and pay attention to what I'm doing. You basing stuff on 1000s of computers you have seen is ridiculous and to be frank far fetched in my opinion. The safety of a computer depends 99% on the user's awareness of stuff and not just opening/installing crap willie nillie. Like I have seen so many programs that have check boxes that if you just do the robotic "click through" will install adware and junk. if you pay attention and read *everything* you can uncheck those, which is my point. People have issues because people don't think before acting. This video shouldn't be about Dangers of Windows 7, it should be about Dangers of people doing dumb stuff on their computer.
@@problemchild959 100% facts and I have never had a internet related attack on any PC on windows 7 and there are ways of still getting security updates on 7 I still do
I'm an IT Specialist and I still use Windows 7 Ultimate on many many many machines because IT WORKS JUST FINE and many specialized software have never been fully migrated to Windows 8, 10 or 11. And no I'M NOT STUPID. What would be silly is not using the tools and means to attain the Windows Extended Security Updates. And recently Microsoft has opened the floodgates for Windows Bit Defender to work on ANY operating system, even on Mac and Linux. Now if you're that Obsessive Compulsive Disorder on the latest and greatest and adhering to fear porn. Then by all means install Kaspersky Total Security and you're good to go. P.S. Don't believe the hype train Windows 7 is dead, useless, and dangerous.
A lot of security depends upon how one uses their computer. Ad blockers in browsers help go a long way in stopping viruses since they often come through pop-up ads. And of course being careful of what you're downloading and from where. Of course if you're not even using the Internet you aren't likely to be exposed to much.
Video on protection for Windows 7 is coming tomorrow and I did say what to do if you wan to continue to use Windows 7. Also as a IT Specialist, you are class everyone who uses a computer with your skill level and that is not true
@@Britec09 You’re certainly correct Britec09. Us IT Specialists (you and I and countless many more to pop up in the coming years, better yet coming months) are a special breed all together. Our mindset is programmed to a unique standard, set on efficiency, profitability and never ending redundant maintenance. So yes we’re not the average day to day end user aka “joe bag of donuts”. Also we can never expect everybody else to live up to the same standards as us IT guys and gals. But this is why I personally educate everyone who still uses an older outdated operating system. The proper do’s and don’t’s, install Windows Bit Defender, force Extended Support Updates, as writerpatrick pointed out adblockers i.e. uBlock Origin, Ghostery and Magic Actions for RU-vid. Because let’s face it the vast majority of society as a whole uses Google Chrome, Firefox or Edge for everything. And the Windows operating system acts as one giant bootloader to get to Chrome and whatever other Chromium based web browsers that’s on the market.
i still have a PC with Windows XP. I use it as a dedicated computer to to run a Laser engraver and never used for anything else. I bought a USB WiFi adapter which is used to transfer files created on my primary computer and can be removed when not needed. I hate the idea of throwing out a good working PC when it can be repurposed.
Do NOT use a Wifi dongle on it. It's well documented that XP will become infected just being on the internet. Look at Eric Parker's "What happens if you connect Windows XP to the Internet in 2024?"
Never had a single attack on windows 7... switched to 11 and got a very bad virus within a month still have a PC with windows 7 fully updated and no antivirus protection I dont use this PC for anything that has my personal information still the best windows ever released
@@josephatkinson1132 Joe, I think it's called marketing ($$). Throw it out there, the masses will fall for anything & buy anything, then keep at it with 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 to infinity! AND tell 'em it's for their security & safety online!
So, my cousin is an IT technician and he still uses Windows 7. He says: the system is so uncommon that it is not interesting for hackers. The biggest error sits in front of the PC, If you click everywhere what makes bling,bling, then a Windows 10 can't not protect you.
So the choice is between risking getting a bricked computer from malware or a bricked computer from a glitchy update. Not to mention the interface change, one of the things users hated the most about Windows versions after 7. Damned if we do, damned if we don't.
And you're an incalculable number of times more likely to get fucked by a Microsoft update than a random external exploit that in most cases the user has to action.
I could not disagree more. I'm using Kaspersky's Total Security anti virus with Windows 7 Ultimate since it came out and upgraded from Vista Ultimate. I have had only 1 adware issue for over 13 years. I think what you're promoting is undue fear which I think is not called for. One computer users experience.
So the world revolves around you does it? Because you have had one 1 adware issue for over 13 years does not mean others have not been badly infected, I live in the real world and deal with 1000s of computers that say different. I am stating the truth that without protection, you will be vulnerable. Kaspersky's Total Security is one of the best on the market and that has save you more than likely. Why not uninstall Kaspersky's Total Security if you have only had 1 adware issue in over 13 years because its taken up resources and you obviously don't need it.
It's just luck of the draw..if some bastard low life hacker targets you out of the millions upon millions of out of date users of old operating systems..I use Win7 too and trust to lady luck like so many of us..if I get targeted I'd have to reinstall my backed up data..might just as well go back to using my Win Vista home version..not much difference in security if a bit slower..
The problem with all Microsoft operating systems are they are full of Swiss cheese holes. No system is truly secure. It’s why they push the all the patches. The problem with new operating systems is that not everyone can afford new hardware that supports it. I do updates and repairs for all my relatives and try to nurse along their older systems because of the simple fact of the price of hardware and availability of parts. Not everyone can afford to run windows 10 or 11 even though the OS is itself free. Linux light distros such as lubuntu are becoming more user friendly options simply because they are stuck with older hardware.
I'm actually very surprised Microsoft never officially offered the ESU to home users as well since this would have made them a lot more money and they would have to be updating to a newer Windows in 3 years time anyway. Not to mention that we live in a generation where if a company doesn't allow you to do something, people just workaround it anyway. Microsoft lost a big chance here.
I still have a couple of Win 7 laptops that couldn't be upgraded to Win 10 because of hardware limitations. I haven't let them online since I got my Win 10 laptop (which again can't be upgraded to Win 11). I have read about a Win 7 workaround that has you go back a couple of years and force install an LTSC update that is needed to get an update just before EOL that allows you to get the LTSC updates without paying. I'd like to see you do a video on whether this is bull, or it works but may be illegal. Btw, none if my gear is networked together so I have no worries there. I've always had everthing set up as stand alone computers working on their own tasks and never knowing the others existed.
@@John_Chiasson a solution for your Windows 10 laptop would be Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021, it's easy to pirate permanently and it'll be supported for a very long time
@@Britec09 I assume we'll probably get the ESU program with such dodgy workarounds for Windows 10 too, given the amount of people that will still be stuck on Windows 10 in 3 years time
In all honesty, I had to use Windows XP up until 2016 on my college network since I was a student with very little money and couldn't afford to upgrade. I made sure I secured it well enough, configured it so it was a little more locked down and never had any issues, in fact those two years I used XP since EoL was the longest period I ever went without malware or any problems on XP. Back in the 2000s when it was still in mainstream support and the mainstream OS, I was having malware issues all the time. Which tbf just shows XP wasn't the most secure OS to begin with if it wasn't configured right. (Also, I know quite a lot of people who also had malware issues with XP a lot in the 2000s) Also, I do still have Windows 7 in active use today on one of my PCs, but I am still getting patches until 2023 :>
@@Britec09 kinda, I have a program that does micropatching (not an AV or Firewall) which although is not the same, is certainly better than nothing. Although even they stop in 2023.
You put far too much faith in security updates. And no it is not just a question of updating the OS, but older hardware may not be Windows 10 compatible.
Not faith, fact. You cannot use a machine safety without security updates. its like going bare back on a $5 hooker, your going to catch something sooner or later.
@@Britec09 haha. but you're not going bare-back if you have "virus protection" are you!?! all this hype about ms updates only stems from the fact that win-defender is now baked into the windows system and needs regular updates.
How long did Windows 7 last? Well, in 2009 it replaced Vista after just 3 years of that. Then Window 8 replaced it in 2012 after just three years, it did extend support until 2020. How do they get a way with that planned obsolescence. Imagine if cars or other equipment used daily expired after 3--or 11--years. I have never had a car that was newer than 13 years old.
The windows 11 debacle is BS knowing not a lot of people can afford to buy new computers, and the computers they are serving up to people either suck, or they are out of everyone's price range, nothing in between, Microsoft is a huge scam, best to just use Linux and tell MS to take a hike.
Unfortunately, Ned, we now live in a throwaway world where nothing is built to last for long. I'm 71, and I'd love to have my old Morris Minor or VW Beetle again.😊
@@EIRE55 Nice to hear. I had a Morris Woody Station Wagon and a Bug-eved Sprite with the removable hardtop(actually two, one was for parts). I had their engines rebuilt and they could go anywhere. I drove one or the other up the California coast and out to Denver. I sold them when I went to live abroad. They were lovely to drive and I wasn't going anywhere fast. They just required a little loving care.
@@nedludd7622 Hi, Ned. Yes, "practicalities" don't seem to exist anymore. As long as something "looks good", that's all that seems to matter to most people. Stay well, wherever you are. Patricia (Irish)😊☘
(before video-sees title) "Dangers of also being underprivileged by means of disability in two thousand twenty-two" I bought this XP-designed PC back in 2015. It was on the cheap, and I was lucky to afford it. IT CANNOT RUN WINDOWS 10. *CANNOT RUN WINDOWS 10.* I'd be surprised if it were able to run *_Windows 8._* On a *_fixed and limited income, what I have, is what I have got to use._* Expendable income? NEVER HEARD OF IT. I'm not stupid; I know what I have is obsolete, but all I hear is how I need to do this, that and so on, ad nauseam. *SHUT UP ALREADY AND EITHER HELP ME OR STOP TELLING ME THAT LIFE SUCKS ON A FIXED AND LIMITED INCOME.* ... I use what I have, and don't pretend that I can do more. _Windows 7 is more stable than Windows 10, and that's not just an opinion._
Still running it, dont love it, it is just a better operating system, i know this is a big scare boogie man, but as you said yourself, even windows 10 and 11 are vulnerable. stay with what you got or go into an operating system that freely gives out your personal information to anyone in the world that requests it. I thank you for your worries but i enjoy personal sovereignty above all.
I'm going to be honest, although on my main computer\laptop I use Windows 10 as of now. I was using Windows 8.1 but annoyingly I had no choice but to upgrade when getting a new laptop and not only that, in year's time Windows 8.1 will end up like Windows 7. Now unlike with Windows 11, I'll happily use Windows 10 but I will brute force updates to be notify only and i'll manually tell Windows to install the updates when i want them to be installed because I don't want to be forced to wait just so i can so some work. Now I still use Windows 7 on some computers mainly because those computers can't run any version of Windows higher than Windows 7 without major compatibly problems or without lagging issues so bad that it's literally unusable. However I understand the risks and i'm generally as careful as possible and if something does happen, I instantly know what to do. If I lose my files... sure, I'll be upset but i'll quickly get over it and move on as things like that do happen even if we try to prevent it. Also as someone who does computer stuff as a hobby, I'll personally always support Windows 7 and 8.1 and in some cases just for abit of fun in VMs create things for even older versions of Windows.
The only thing I'd say about the number of vulnerabilities being patched with Windows 10 and 11, is that it's vulnerabilities with those operating systems specifically. Windows 7 doesn't even have most of the junk the latest two have, in order to even be exploited. Also, nefarious people are likely to target the current OS's as there's a higher chance of getting a hit. It's only in the last decade or so that upgrading your OS because of potential security vulnerabilities has even been a thing. Back in the day, you only changed OS if you wanted the new compatibility and features. We tend to overlook the fact that an OS is just a tool. If you like it and don't have any problems, keep using it. There's all these swanky power tools out there but if you're able to do the same job with a hammer and chisel at a fraction of the bother and cost, do so.
I used Windows 7 Pro then updated to Windows 10 and had no problems. But when Windows 11 Pro came out it Suckz. If they would put the old Start Menu, The Top Ribbon and The Right Click Menu back like at the beginning of Windows 10 Pro it would be great. I truly understand some of the users that do not have the money to purchase a computer system that can handle Windows 10 or 11. My 2 sons chipped in and purchased me a new Desktop. I could not have bought it myself because I’m on disability and a fixed income.
A lot of people don't want to upgrade because they don't know how or its a case where the only way they can is to buy a whole new machine or license for windows. There's nothing wrong with still using Windows 7 if it's on a secondary PC just used for video games and other legacy software. Like say having a steam install and steam games and literally nothing else. You can't get viruses if you don't even open a web browser. Just keep it for video games and its fine. Same goes for XP. That's great for old games.
I use Windows 7 constantly on my PC with no problems at all every day, but using Windows 10 on my laptop is a sheer nightmare to use.!! Thanks but I know which is the more reliable one for me and which one I'm going to be sticking with until Windows 12 is released because by then they may have sorted out all the problems that 10 & 11 have generated ;-)
You are remarkably optimistic to think that they will make a new system more reliable than a previous one. Part of the effort is to introduce new bugs.
My old desktop still runs on Windows 7, hadn't touched it since maybe last December when it started to experience a little hard drive failure. It had a good 9 years, not bad for a Dell.
Here it is,middle of 2023,and I am still using Win 7. What largely separates me from the herd is that I religiously use a free sandboxing program to isolate my browser and email client,which is especially good for Zero Day malware. Also,Windows is still regularly giving me security updates for some reason. I don't entirely trust Defender,so I am using Avast One free edition for AV. I can't remember getting any system infection doing all that. I HAVE gotten my browser hijacked on occasion,but I just close the browser sandbox,and the hijacker is gone.
You can still use it as a stand alone without a internet connection. As long as you keep it free from that connection you can still use it for whatever reason, except for things that require a network or online connection.
Yes Brian this was my favourite Windows as it was so easy to take part in especially on their forums - which I cannot do now because the systems now (10 & 11) are so much more complicated. I do still run 10 using the old 7 formats with Open Shell but that is as far as I go. Having said that on a different tack you mention zero day attacks and I for one would like to see a tutorial on the different types of malware because I don fully understand what they mean. It does surprise me that Microsoft is still patching Windows 7 and to me that is a waste of a resource.
@@Britec09 Yes what I liked about it was that I could take part in diagnosing BSOD problems and other system stuff but I feel out of my depth with 10 and 11.
Hope that works out for you, can't be said for the rest of people. Nice article for you to read www.theverge.com/2017/5/19/15665488/wannacry-windows-7-version-xp-patched-victim-statistics
I use Win 7, Vista, XP, 98, 95, 3.1 on retro PC's for fun... not used for internet or connected to internet. I have Win 10/11 PC's for that. I don't bother "protecting" them because I wouldn't use them for online = No Windows Updates = Dangerous! I just like rebuilding old PC's for fun and something to keep me busy. You are spot on... Dangerous to keep using old pc's with unsupported OS's. Having fun reading the comments on this one... hehe...
Its very hard how old laptop or pc users (like me) have to suffer using windows 10 at an daily bassis like the desktop lagging whenever i install a game.
I'm still using Win 7 as my daily driver, and I have to reinstall this os on my dream 2008 pc build, with a core 2 quad cpu. I choose win 7 because i'm currently limited to 4gb ram with my motherboard, and also because I hate Windows 10, since it's a trojan.
The sad thing is most software these days are outdated unless you are on the bleeding edge releases regardless of Windows, Linux, or MacOS. It is all about each person deciding for themselves what risks to take for their needs. Most Windows 7 people have issues either personal or hardware issues with Windows 8+. I think it is crazy to call people stupid...
A thumbs down! I still use Windows 7, Vista and XP. I tried Windows 11 and it sucks! At least Windows 10 is not bad as Windows 11. But I also dual boot Windows 7 and 10. On my computer!
Microsoft, although firm on their anti-7 mentality now, would still not risk extremely major security flaws. This has been seen in XP before, in 2017, where they released an update due to an extremely serious threat. As long as it’s market share isn’t 0%, if those machines get infected with bad enough viruses and malware, it will affect MS one way or the other. Antivirus could also block the majority of these threats anyway.
There's nothing wrong with using Windows 7 in 2022 as long as you are aware of the risks and you do everything you can to reduce the attack surface and mitigate any potential entry points for malware and ransomware. Disabling Windows components like SMBv1, using a browser that is still being updated like Microsoft Edge and having some from of anti malware and a firewall. I know that this is just common sense but it's surprising how many people forgo these and think "It will never happen to me"
I have a multi-hard drive computer that has Windows XP, 7, 10 and 11 on it. I switch between operating systems using a electronic switcher in one of my DVD front bay slots. I use Windows 10 and Windows 7 on a regular basis. But I have many issues with Windows 10, too many to list here. One of them is having to WAIT for Windows 10 to update this or that with the swirling dots instead of being able to use my computer. So I prefer Windows 7 as my daily OS. I make a complete exact copy of my Windows 7 SSD hard drive about once a month for a backup of all my files. It takes about 15 minutes to copy the SSD. I set it aside. I am careful when on the internet and have not had to use my backup copy yet. I do not use online banking. My biggest issue is protection of my WORD files etc. which I also keep a backup copy on a flash drive. As long as my browser supports Windows 7 I will keep using it. I have tried Linux several times and do not like it. Windows 7 is Microsoft's best OS so far, Windows 10 and Windows 11 are both inferior to it. Maybe Windows 12 will change my mind, who knows. I should add I do use a 3rd party virus software that still supports Windows 7.
Some Linux distros are admittedly ugly and not user friendly, others look ok. That would be my first choice for online banking since linux malware is rare.
I run windows 7 on a gaming computer I built because certain simulators I like to play don't run well or run at all on Windows 10. I play a couple online games as well. I haven't had one problem with it, and if I do I'll handle it myself.
Sorry- respectfully disagree with you. I had windows 10 on my desktop. After an update somewhere along the line- I received the blue screen of death on boot. I literary lost data. Went back to windows 7- up to this day I have never lost 1 byte of data. So my actual experience completely goes against your hypothetical ideas. I do run a paid for- premium antivirus package with 7, which I have to pay a subscription for- but this I deem the lesser of 2 evils, the other being windows 10 which actually loses data, experientially. As for the idea that security holes may be becoming exploitable as an old OS goes unpatched on and on- yes there may be a degree of truth in this. But there certainly must be a consideration that MS really wants you to upgrade to a newer OS for the sake of more revenue- either through initial purchase price- or through avenues that track you usage, which they can also use for revenue purposes, which has become more and more apparent from windows 10 onwards. And one way to do this is to create a sense of fear that you must ditch the old OS- it's just not up to the task any longer. And to show you I have no bias- I do run Windows 10 on my laptop. But even here I have a 3rd party app installed that blocks updates (except anti-virus, which I use the same premium package)- which I unlock perhaps once a year to allow updates to come through. Again- experientially- even not having the newest updates- I have never succumbed to a security flaw- rather it is when I have allowed the newest updates through issues have arisen. One last thing- how many of those security updates that come through Windows update are for MS related products- i.e. Edge and Office? I ditched these- and use Firefox and LibreOffice- which are always updated to the newest versions. So no issues in these areas either.
I refused the offer from MS for a free W10 because I was suspicious of it, and I'm very glad that I trusted my own instincts after all the bug problems W10 ended up with. I have both W7 and W8.1 on my computer, but only use W8.1 for online. I'm in no way computer savvy, but I'm seriously considering replacing my W7 with Linux (Mint?) in the near future. I'd really appreciate hearing back from anyone on here as to what their ideas and opinions are. Thank you, Patricia.
Patricia, you really can't go wrong if you switch to Linux mint, it's not that hard to learn, it's probably easier than what it was when you first started using Windows. For normal users who just do web surfing, emails, watching RU-vid and banking, Linux is the go in my opinion. I have to convince my wife who still uses Windows 7 that it's time to make the move also.There's lots of RU-vid videos showing you how to install Linux Mint, which i think is one of the most user friendly operating systems, packed with a lot of features already installed. Best of all, it's free to download. Good luck in what you decide to do.
@@dits791 It was so nice to find your comment this morning, Sir. You've been very helpful and encouraging. Tell your wife I'm 71, Irish, and that I'd strongly suggest she takes your advice. I love W7, but I know when to call it quits. I'm self-taught on everything and only started using the internet in 2013, which was a laugh and a half in itself!🙃😆 Many thanks, and stay well, wherever you are. 😊☘
The only (and I mean ONLY) reason I went with 10 for my new PC is because 7 was making it harder and harder to run newer games. If it weren't for that, I would have stuck with 7 as I have my ways of hardening my PC and I never visit dodgy sites or download sketchy files. That said, 10 wasn't quite as bad as I expected BUT it's still bad. I really wish GOG would release their Galaxy client on Linux because if they did, I would have just switched over to something like Linux Mint instead. Still considering doing that when 10 hits its EoS date, as 11 is even worse.
ur just repeating urself for 10min "if u dont get Windows update then ur pc is vulnerable" without showing the vulnerabilities smh this video is a waste ov time , i still use Windows 7 and haven't gotten any viruses, i dont even use an anti virus lol ur just fearmongering cuz u dont like Windows, ur just bais towards Linux
I still get ppl bringing me their infected laptops with Windows xp installed and asking me "how does my laptop get infected so easily?" And they're not really tech savvy so explaining it to them is like explaining it to a child lol
Fuck Windows 10 and fuck Windows 11. Still loving Windows 7 in 2022. Have had no security issues, as I've watched win 10 & 11 literally wipe user data on update, track every user action, INSERT ADS, DOWNLOAD SOFTWARE ARBITRARILY, and break their own fuctionality on a monthly basis... If an OS downloading software you didn't ask for and tracking everything you do isn't a security issue then I don't know what the fuck is... But I guess Linux really will be the future, at least for anyone who cares about privacy or security. The vast majority of attacks are carried out on systems with larger user-bases like 10 & 11. And most infections are user-error to begin with. Thanks to the power of open source software, manual patches for most software are a breeze. "Like the guy who updated Python for 7, even after Python told us to fuck off. As for the kernel argument, you have no proof that win 7 had the same vulnerabilities/issues. "Though it is likely" I have yet to see an example in the wild. Every issue with a newer version of Windows had the same fix on 7 as it did on later revisions, and were all user-level fixes that were not patched through Windows Update to begin with... Windows 8 would've been fine, but the metro menu and changes to aero killed it for me.
I live in Argentina. Is impossible because of the cost to buy anything. The best I have is a core i3, 8 gigs of ram, and a 120 gb ssd. Tell me what can I use if not windows 7 ? Think about the people like me who have no monetary resources because the economy of the country is a mess. How we common people must do ? Excuse my English. Help us to find a way to keep using windows 7. Thanks
My friend THE WHOLE WORLD is in financial ruin. Everything is a mess. Inflation, the Bitcoin value dropping hard and harder each day. The fall out of the pandemic and Monkeypox, yeah go figure.
Windows 10 is a free upgrade, there is no reason to use windows 7. Your computer can run Windows 10 fine. The vast vast majority of software that works in 7 works in 8, 10, and 11
Yes but counterpoint, hackers dont target older operating systems. Try to find a hacker who is making viruses for the 0.3% of people still on windows xp. Its true that there are plenty of security holes, but no real hacker worth their weight in salt is going to go for that. What, all the effort to lock dear old granny out of her daily solitaire? Pleaaaaase. Theres no reward for hacking someone on 7/older. No pride, no money, no fame, nada. The incentives arent there!
This is why they invented "backups" and yes, I am using XP on one system, win7 on another, win10 on 3 others and linux on another. Backups solve lots and there are many anti-virus/malware out there like avira. No one is interested in my data anyways. I've rebuilt my systems so often it's ridiculous. I've used computers since the SWTPC6800 (1977)
I would not be able to work on a old system, never get any work done. Technology moves on Phil, dread to think whats its like to watch 4k movies on an old XP pc or even render a 4K movie on a XP machine, don't think it would even be possible.
@@Britec09 Each computer is used for it's own purpose. You drive a bus to deliver many people, you would not use a bus to get a sandwich from a deli. See what I mean? Many people use more than one computer. We aren't limited to only one. My XT is used to watch movies on over 4 hard drives (more than 1000 movies and series.) My win7 is used to write software. Another 2 win 10 used to run my flight simulator (I am a pilot and maintain proficiency when I can't fly.) So, not everyone needs to get the latest and greatest software or machines. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I happily use Windows 10 (and Windows 11 as a dual boot) on my new laptop but my 12-year old laptop running Windows 7 still gets daily Security Intelligence Updates from Microsoft Security Essentials and the monthly Malicious Software Removal Tool. I tried to dual boot this with Windows 10 and whilst it installed okay it refused to accept the IDT Audio software so the sound is not good - works perfectly okay with Windows 7.
Yes, I have a Sony Vaio laptop that runs Win 7 just fine. I installed 10 and a bunch of stuff quit working. I had sound problems and absolutely no network access at all. No Wi-Fi, no Ethernet, nothing. All kinds of yellow triangles in device manager. Went back to 7 and everything worked fine again…….
I have an old computer still running Windows 7, but it's mainly being used for file storage, with a number of attached external storage devices. I don't go on the internet with it, except maybe to a few trusted sites. It's perfectly fine for that sort of use. It's not a primary computer I use for everyday tasks.
I don't believe this to be true, I work in a data center full of old servers running windows NT to 2022, and I can tell you from experience that I haven't had to clean viruses or ransomware on old operating systems, we had a major ransomware attack and it was all the servers running server 2012 r2 and 2019 that got affected, Server 2019 had ransomware protection turned on and it didn't do anything, we have hundreds od server 2003 and 2008 that didn't get affected. Hackers are not spending time to develop attacks on older OS..
never used antivirus software, nor the windows defender, using w7 atm to game, without the security patches and guess what, no issues. you need active brain cells, not an antivirus or security updates.
@@asdbef3667 the IOT version is easily piratable with the Microsoft Activation Script, if you use it's HWID option it will even stay activated if you reinstall
OK! So "people" realize this fact of using OUTDATED software but MOST REFUSE to update their Mother-board "bios"! These "hacks" also exist on the CPU/BOARD level and there's a reason vendors PUSH "bios" updates that "people" are too scared to install! "flashing" your BIOS is "safer" than FLYING and prevents further "hacking"! I've been building computers since the mid-90's and ONE thing I always do is keep the BIOS and drivers "UP-TO-DATE"! CASE in point! My current ASUS system had a third BIOS update that I "FLASHED" and then my computer would NOT boot! NOT to panic I simply "reset" the BIOS and then went in and re-set the settings I had setup! (PBO over-clocking and FAN speeds). All is WELL! Running an OLD mother board and NOT updating the BIOS is just asking for problems!
No antivirus, security update, etc is going to protect you fully on any OS. So do a daily backup (to usb) of the data that you worked on (documents etc) AND have a full backup image of your entire HDD on another disk (that is not connected to your PC). I have a separate HDD (in my cupboard) that is a complete clone of the one in my PC (updated monthly). If a hacker encrypts everything on my PC, all I have to do is swap the HDD.
@@josephatkinson1132 Exactly right! Any Operating System is vulnerable when connected to the internet. Your best security (for your data) is to have backups of everything. Not just for virus attacks, but also HDD breakdown in your PC.
@@Johan-ex5yj Every time you buy new desktop or laptop you always at risk with hacker’s and computer viruses . I know few people that work on computer’s for years,They all say exactly same thing at I said to you makes no difference what windows versions you used hacker’s and viruses can always find a way get in your computer system no buts lol 😂. But yes always have backup on your personal stuff.
@@josephatkinson1132 Excellent, you got it right! 👍 Another thing I do is to refrain from using wifi as much as possible; it is just another security risk (much better to use a direct connection).
Best security advice ... Don't be an idiot. I use Windows 7 without any issues. I know my computer. I know not to click links that I don't know. It is seriously not hard. They will have to have a gun to my head to use Windows 10, and a cannonball to my head to use 11.
Believe it not, but I still use a Win 7 laptop strictly as a media server when traveling, on vacation, etc. With it, I enjoy all my music and videos. I will not go on the Internet, nor download etc. It runs strictly locally (with an exception of accessing my NAS, and external hard drives. I hook it up to the Hotel TV and my home screens via HDMI. It has my favorite Media apps (such as Winamp with all the plug-ins and visualizations), which I can't enjoy with Win 10 or 11. It runs great and I enjoy it a lot of times. Good Vid Brian - Thanks
I am still a Windows 7 tryhard. I mostly use my PC for Sony Vegas Pro 13, recording videos and playing old games. I will install Windows 10 on a Virtual Machine only for a few instances, where something does not work. As for the security updates, I remember having Windows Update turned off for 4 years (2016-2020) and nothing happened. I don't really believe they help that much. Seriously, you just have to use your PC wisely. That's all. I will not switch, until we get an OS, that's finally good.
I used XP with an admin account until 2020. I had to part with it, when there was no modern browser anymore and Norton stopped supporting XP. Win 7 is easy. There are updates available, there are modern browsers and plenty of security software. And other than with Win 10, I don't risk to boot in a loop, after a bad update. So I think, it's even more secure. :)
@@Edmundostudios I've tried Mypal and other browsers on XP and all gave me problems. I kept Firefox 52.9.0esr running for a while, but when I couldn't login to my bank anymore, it was game over. Pitty, because many features of XP are sadly missed, especially native tape drive support.
For anyone still using Windows 7.... i used to think i'd never change from it. But i installed Windows 10 on a friends PC, and you can use Classic Shell (now called Open Shell) to change the UI so it's almost indistinguishable from Windows 7. I've now got Win10 on my PC and completely happy with it. Windows 11 is another story though haha :-/
Hej I agree with you Windows 10 and also Windows 11 is very customizable you can make it look like Windows 7 almost if you want that take care and have a nice week.
@@DavidNgo86 I heard something about it, but any update i install first goes through the beta preview channel, and then a whole year of general release before i install. I'm definitely not a beta tester in that regard.
With all due respect, I run several old computers with win 7 and some aftermarket security additions, it seems remarkably safe, incredibly free of the intrusive data mining hidden code MS now installs on almost a bi-daily basis. It is still a remarkably fast op system due to these exclusions. (btw, I began my programming on Cobal and Fortran using punch cards and magnetic tape..so I've been around a while now). I'm not aware of any huge security issues for which there are not available workarounds for 7. 7 'bare' however is in fact quite vulnerable...so if you decide to use it still, take the appropriate actions. The fact remains, that in today's world, the biggest 'threats' to your personal security are Microsoft and Google:)
I once ran a Windows 10 OS in a VM on Windows 7 machine to update a Xbox controller's firmware so it would be compatible with the MS wireless adapter on Windows 7. The only thing that is being kept from me as a Windows 7 user are forced updates, no privacy control, and some Nvidia Freesync features. My legacy programs, games, workflow, and web browsing all work fine without an ad-riddled start menu. Never mind the apps in Windows 11; I can get a chrome book for that. My point is that fearmongering aside, the push to Windows 10 is purely to take control and privacy away from the user and grow dependence/acceptance on software as a "service" where you own nothing but rent everything. Avoid piracy, avoid unsafe websites, be careful with emails, and keep your virus and malware protections up to date and pretty much nothing has changed in the years since Windows 7 was officially cancelled. A few bells and whistles I am altogether happy to give up for a stable OS where I'm in control and my favorite legacy programs still work without issues.
Well all those things your talking about are real concerns Brian. I have no doubt that money is the real reason microsoft doesn't want people to use previous versions of their OS.
one major problem for outdated OS is the support for Internet Browser. Most major internet browser will end their support until 2023. So it wont be long that we will soon force to change OS to windows 10 or move to Linux. Unless you are not using for internet purpose and offline, then there is no harm to keep windows 7.
1:40 This is just wrong: I am still getting updates on my Windows 7 box that I use daily. It's mostly `Security Essentials' but not only I believe, and either way I keep hearing this, which is just not true.
Under what rock did you crawl from ... never heard of virtual machines ? I use windows 7 in a virtual machine to code all my websites. Windows 7 is much faster and more responsive than Windows 10. After each session I revert the virtual machine state back to its beginning.
my supermarket self checkouts are using xp, my hospital is still using 7 in the xray machines and the orthoperic doctors surgery, but l dont think any of them are connected to the internet
No, that's not "just the way technology is", it is the way Microsoft is. Go to a Linux-based system and ditch Windows altogether. Tell people the whole truth. Linux is much much harder to break into. It can be done but not as easy as Windows.
I can post some terminal commands in response to forum thread, and people will run it with sudo without understanding what it does. And fixing many things in Linux involves entering the magic terminal commands from a forum thread
Linux still needs to be constantly updated for security fixes. Also, you have to use terminal 24/7 for workarounds. I and most other users can't be arsed with that.
not even thought about 7 for so long. unlike many other people I actually think windows 11 is the most stable version of Windows I've used. can't say I've had any issues unlike all previous versions. but I also know many people have had issues so clearly isn't perfect.
Windows 8x is the most perfect Windows version. I know a lot of people dislike the start screen. But you are perfectly secured and stable. Windows 10 is a Burning passion As it is unstable. Well For those who hate the start screen. Install Classic shell or Open shell and You have Windows 8 with Windows 7 like UI. Windows 10 is a useless Thing. 8.1 is only the last modern os that is better
From what I understand Microsoft security essentials is not part of the windows 7 program, it is a downloaded program that was added. I am still getting security updates on that program as of 1 Jan 2023, So will this program protect my windows 7 OS ??? I have never had any problems and I use windows 7 almost every day. ???
Basically M-Soft have difficulty's learning from the past, still making new vulnerable Operating systems. Maybe time to change name of the company to "WaitSoft" or something like "PleaseWaitSoft". There must be a breakpoint ahead when the attackers find it non-profitable or useless gaining from W7 especially since 10 and 11 continue to have revolving doors. But on the other hand it might be a part of the strategy: Motivates forced updates and control. One way of solving an infected W7 is to always have a fresh copy and reinstall it if needed. In the long run probably a time saver compare to slowing updates. Anyone got other suggestions?
Then try Windows Embedded Standard 7, Windows Embedded Standard 7 (WES7) was built on the same framework as Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows 7 Embedded Standard used to be the reliable choice for many embedded projects. In January 2020, Microsoft ended support for Windows 7. However, that same month, Microsoft announced an Extended Security Update program that will deliver critical and important updates to Windows 7 with options until October 2023
you are very wrong and wrong Windows 7 it's the best one Because you can do what ever you want to So don't tell anyone that it's not good I think you don't no nothing about windows 7.
@@itstheweirdguy First one windows 7 it's the perfect system for videos games 2 and Time machine and the next one it's going to be windows 12 Numbers can tell you everything 📚😉📚 Cheers
Hi Brian, I have a friend that is still using windows 7, and is quite computer savvy, HATES windows 10 prefers the layout of seven, dislikes the way that certain things have had name changes needlessly etc etc. He says that hackers are more likely to want to hack the latest versions of windows and wouldn't bother with windows 7. He does have various programs to check and remove adware and other nasties, and uses Norton anti virus, he just wont be told....... he does back up his stuff and can reformat etc, he lives on his own so no one else would be affected. How can I convince him? H E L P! ;-) Don.
You Can't convince him to change. He's made his decision and is willing to take the risk, as I am. My reason for still using 7, is that my PC struggles to run 10, due to its age. It's not suitable for updating the hardware, so I will stick with it until I can justify buying new guts that will run 11. As long as he is aware of the penalties for continuing to run 7, that's his choice and you should let him get on with it and stop trying to convince him to change. i.e. Don't poke your nose into other peoples business. That's how you lose friends.
That’s true hacker wouldn’t bothering with windows 7 or XP . But truth is makes no difference what windows version your used hackers will always find away hack same with computer virus to.
The older an OS gets, the less people use it, and the less attractive a target it becomes for malware creators. Have you heard about any new Windows 95 viruses recently?
Some versions of windows 7 lets you encrypt your data, so even if you are hacked they can not gain access to your encrypted information. I use windows 7 Ultimate and it has file & folder encryption.
OF COURSE there's that malware point once again. Yeah, because everyone who uses a PC totally has such a monkey brain and is completely incapable of differentiating links that are probably safe(such as RU-vid, Twitter, Google, etc.) from Russian p0arn sites.
I've got two servers and one of them are always offline from the internet. I do not trust cloud storage (no one ever should) and I have a really good Blu-ray burner on my offline server where I backup anything I want to disc. It also serves as my streaming server for movies and music.. and that runs Windows 7. My online server runs Linux Mint and is my work horse. My servers are networked throughout the entire house. Windows 7 is perfectly fine for me and I'll most likely keep using it throughout this decade. My main desktop uses Windows 10, which I like, but I have no desire upgrading to Windows 11 any time soon.
I haven't updated my windows 7 ultimate for years now. Is it safe to do an update now and will this not take ages to complete? Or is it much safer to update to windows 10 asap?? I'm very cautious about doing this. Thank you.
If you're using Windows 7, make sure you every security update available. Also update all of your software and browsers to the last updated version that will run in Windows 7. Use a firewall and don't do any sensitive information like banking in on that machine