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Dark & Darker: How to perform a Riposte attack 

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this was recorded in an older version of the game, since then the hitbox has been ''thighted up'' with the animation, you can test it using those swinging axe traps (which you can block for some reason), I wont remove the video though as it's more of a ''this feature exists'' video instead a ''how to use properly'' video, sorry for the inconvenience!
I'm having fun with the Alpha test, did this video to showcase the riposte mechanic which is not very known to the playerbase, very tricky but satisfing to perform.
make sure to check your region before trying it, good ping is very important for blocking with the longsword
Good luck!

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@Jedijames1999
@Jedijames1999 Год назад
What would make this game really nice is a sparring mode for your party. It would load you into a place with every weapon and you could practice combat with your buddies.
@adamjackson7585
@adamjackson7585 Год назад
Yes, I need more practice.
@weggooiaccount
@weggooiaccount Год назад
will likely make the game too sweaty. at the.moment it has the perfect level of skill
@TheGrimeway1
@TheGrimeway1 Год назад
@@weggooiaccount nah it would be a great addition
@HelmuthGerka
@HelmuthGerka Год назад
@@weggooiaccount this would benefit new people more than sweats, most high level players already have the skill from other games like chivalry and morhau, we need a training room.
@kongoll
@kongoll Год назад
@@HelmuthGerka Chiv and Mordhau mechs transferred very slightly but not really lol. This combat is much more clunky and unresponsive
@dingding7289
@dingding7289 Год назад
longsword is honestly a great weapon, especially that the first atack is a thrust, makes it was easier to fight in tigher spaces.
@superbeta1716
@superbeta1716 Год назад
My only gripe with it is it's so slow when they get in your face since the first hit is a stab it's harder to hit form upclose
@rekrn12345
@rekrn12345 Год назад
You can actually hold it down and it attacks twice quickly.
@nmf0
@nmf0 Год назад
@Thawne some of us didn't
@d1s0r13nt3d
@d1s0r13nt3d Год назад
True. This video made it difficult for those who don't read the comment section and might as well brush it off, not all of us are good at doing an actual riposte spam.
@charrtrd
@charrtrd Год назад
@@nmf0 its crazy how little it takes for someone to delete their own comment. like mf you said the words and you're just gonna back off and hide?
@jonkas3498
@jonkas3498 Год назад
@@d1s0r13nt3d You still learned to do it thanks to this video. If you did not watch this then the game would still be harder
@Mech4MS
@Mech4MS Год назад
@@jonkas3498 yup, i didn't know this was a thing
@Arkalius80
@Arkalius80 Год назад
I love the longsword animations. It feels like a weapon being used with some skill and finesse while most others feel like just wild swinging and bashing heh. Spear is also a lot of fun, especially on ranger with the perk.
@bumpyburrito6635
@bumpyburrito6635 Год назад
I believe it's German longsword with the way the character flourishes the blade from left and right towards the head
@moose_hunter7834
@moose_hunter7834 Год назад
the master cut or 'heuw', zwerchau. a thwarting strike. was very cool to see in this game and doesn't go unappreciated at all!
@Fem_V
@Fem_V Год назад
@@bumpyburrito6635 do certain regions use the same swords differently ? like i'd like to think it has to do with training (just like martial arts) im asking out of curiosity i'd like to know more
@rigormortis3219
@rigormortis3219 Год назад
they should add different styles of attacking im used to just slashing and stabbing
@Chris____.
@Chris____. Год назад
@@rigormortis3219 well sir, i beg you to find a new form of attacking outside of slashing and stabbing, im really interested in your findings
@Grunttamer
@Grunttamer Год назад
If anyone was wondering: the tip of the blade has no hit box because in a real sword this area is known as the “weak” of the blade. It is where your opponent has the greatest mechanical advantage against you. Blocking with this portion is likely to knock your blade out of the way and put you off balance at best
@MrEvans1
@MrEvans1 Год назад
Bs excuse but ok
@alfred9805
@alfred9805 Год назад
@@MrEvans1 it's true though, in fencing if you can find the weak of the blade with your forte (the strong part) you basically scored the point
@MrEvans1
@MrEvans1 Год назад
@@alfred9805 yet it has nothing to do with the game, the sword simply didnt hit there, it does have a hitbox :D everything is bullshit As for fencing i have no idea, never been a fan, good to know ;)
@darlox999
@darlox999 Год назад
it's crazy how this game has real life physics
@sorincaladera936
@sorincaladera936 Год назад
​@@MrEvans1its easier to take away from the hitbox than model your sword stagger/ break. But damn, that would be dope
@TrilosonicResolutions
@TrilosonicResolutions Год назад
That longsword zwerchau is incredibly satisfying. It has such a skilled momentum. I'm going to be coming back to this video, at least until the next playtest.
@starseed-
@starseed- Год назад
That spear fight was tight, nice footwork and thanks for the info
@SlCKNESS_
@SlCKNESS_ Год назад
The tip of the blade does have a hitbox, it's in fact the easiest part of the sword to block with. And you did it against the spear guy.
@boumzy
@boumzy Год назад
Sweet, I thought RMB was just a regular block. Had no idea about the follow-up attack, thanks!
@sawritall4292
@sawritall4292 Год назад
For a playtest alpha the game has a gargantuous amount of combat options, i wonder if crush weapons have some secret feature to them
@travislubbeck316
@travislubbeck316 Год назад
@@sawritall4292 it would be cool if war maul had a feint or a quick reversal
@wyattdetherow6853
@wyattdetherow6853 Год назад
it makes a lot of sense that a Darkest dungeon crusader lover, is now playing dark and darker as a fighter lover LMFAO
@LenkelDnD
@LenkelDnD 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for putting in the clicking right again after no videos showed this I kept clicking left after lol
@StoneKnight1
@StoneKnight1 Год назад
guides like these make channels grow
@lich.possum
@lich.possum Год назад
That's cool how your character goes from a cut yo another cut. I like the thrust into cut cause it's so fast but that's actually really cool to see the double cut
@Eggsecuter
@Eggsecuter Год назад
Well done. I’m really loving the longsword fighter over sword and board, as the offensive capabilities are too fun to pass up. I enjoy that as longsword fighter you need to learn the attack angles and patterns of each melee weapon to be effective, makes you really feel like fighter. I’m wondering if the perk counter attacker is a must pick tho. I assume The additional attack speed applies to the riposte, and the whole buff would last for the double riposte, 3 seconds.
@davidfasthands474
@davidfasthands474 Год назад
It’s a really solid perk, not sure if it applies to longsword though it might just be a shield thing, if it applies to all defensive positions including the long swords I’d say it’s definitely a must pick, the fighter only has so many okay perks anyway.
@Eggsecuter
@Eggsecuter Год назад
@@davidfasthands474 I think you’re thinking of the shield defense boost or shield movement speed boost perks, because you said positions. Counter attacker applies to successful *defense* which would mean when a block connects it procs. Semantics aside, assuming it does work with longsword, the question is whether or not 10% atk spd and move spd buff is worth a perk slot? Does a double riposte coming out 10% faster make for a more viable longsword build? Or is it better replaced by something like projectile reduction, or swift. But I guess it depends on the player’s build.
@CrzyLion
@CrzyLion Год назад
@@Eggsecuter it works and its good, the movespeed allows you to actually hit the ripostes if they just back up, and the attack speed means you get both ripostes off 0.1 second faster
@isaactanner5041
@isaactanner5041 Год назад
Have you ever done HEMA or any form of boffer sport? I've never heard someone call it sword and board who doesn't use it to fight with/against.
@Disko3674
@Disko3674 Год назад
I'm gonna miss Dark and Darker.
@lred1383
@lred1383 Год назад
until february, that is
@mikealjohnsson
@mikealjohnsson Год назад
@@lred1383 does it come out then or another play test?
@lred1383
@lred1383 Год назад
@@mikealjohnsson still another playtest, the full release is coming only in Q4 of 2023, and there will be a proper open beta phase starting sometime inbetween
@alirende9908
@alirende9908 Год назад
@@lred1383 what is Q4
@sheepsauruszillarex1332
@sheepsauruszillarex1332 Год назад
@@alirende9908 4th quarters of the year, that is, the last three months of the year. October - November - December
@SrLupinotuum
@SrLupinotuum Год назад
ohh this makes me want a training lobby so we can freely practice it
@JonYugen
@JonYugen Год назад
Definitely potential with that aspect. Hopefully they release some type of training mode that allows pvp to test out builds in mostly real situations compared to hitting a dummy.
@Ezzekiel73
@Ezzekiel73 Год назад
Honestly, I kinda really like not having a training room because that forces you to learn and test out in the field where it’s more dangerous and risky, and the learning is done by the brave
@isaactanner5041
@isaactanner5041 Год назад
​@@Ezzekiel73I agree!
@anthragestormrider2493
@anthragestormrider2493 Год назад
I'm the 100th subscriber! Well deserved, video is very well done.
@stockaveli
@stockaveli Год назад
i want them to buff the block hit for the tip of blade imagine the fights
@NeFjuS
@NeFjuS Год назад
but it kinda works like it would IRL, you cannot block with the tip of the blade, the leverage is too much for you to negate the force of th blow.
@Fem_V
@Fem_V Год назад
@@NeFjuS maybe they can make it dynamic. while i am not expert , logic would suggest a war maul is beyond heavy to just block with a very thin tip , so they may want to make the combat more in-depth by adding mechanics like this, the game's still in playtest so we'll see what they might add
@joshuacooke5730
@joshuacooke5730 Год назад
@@NeFjuS you can very much parry with the tip of the blade. I would say the vast majority of parry/chambering techniques use the tip or mid front of the blade
@oggieson
@oggieson Год назад
Yeah it’s possible in this game still to block with the tip. At least further forward than his shown collision boxes. Seems a bit inconsistent across different weapons tho, but I had it occur quite a bit throughout playing after testing for the videos I made.
@maximelelandais5999
@maximelelandais5999 Год назад
@@NeFjuS IRL you definitely can block with the tip of the blade, (In France we call that the "weak" of the blade) it's a bit more complicated than just parrying while standing still, but lots of techniques use the tip of the blade to parry and chain a follow-up riposte. (especially thrusting moves and ripostes)
@arkii
@arkii Год назад
Super informative! Love it! :D
@aer0blueTTV
@aer0blueTTV Год назад
Amazing find, thanks for sharing this!! I actually got hype as hell lol
@Ark_Strike
@Ark_Strike Год назад
That last fight is one of my main gripes with this game, you can solo a 3 man party and then some scrubs come and chew you after your moment of glory and take all the spoils. In the end this game will reward more aggressive and vulture like playstyles than actual dungeon crawling but I guess that's battle royales in a nutshell
@jacobgreenhalgh4257
@jacobgreenhalgh4257 Год назад
Thats life in a nutshell pal. Tge game merely allows the player, to have freedon of expression w/o identity.
@Ezzekiel73
@Ezzekiel73 Год назад
Yeah that’s what makes the game exciting though, as you play more, you’ll learn how to disengage from a fight that could end in situations like that. Apex Legends is fantastic in that it will force you to learn how to trade fights and not over-commit so your team isn’t backed into a corner taking down the first team.
@silentwindstudio
@silentwindstudio Год назад
I think I'm love. Longsword is in a completely different level.
@johnthomson3827
@johnthomson3827 Год назад
1:36 damn that was beautiful!
@gravisshade5391
@gravisshade5391 11 месяцев назад
You actually have the collision points backwards. The upper middle to the tip of the blade IS the collision point you want to aim at the trajectory of the weapon youre parrying.
@tito3640
@tito3640 Год назад
Please post more footage of you sword fighting in Dark and Darker.. the playtest has ended and I need my fix
@Terrapin-gw6bb
@Terrapin-gw6bb Год назад
lmao same
@ShaneMcSaucy
@ShaneMcSaucy Год назад
I really liked the longsword but I didn't get to use it much and didn't k own it had a riposte. Now I know what I'm going to use next playtest
@simonwegebro735
@simonwegebro735 Год назад
I like seeing some love for the longsword, its so good in the right hands
@Jareddbb
@Jareddbb Год назад
Out here playing Wizard and being uncharacteristically ignorant! Thanks for the info!
@ChitenBugMan
@ChitenBugMan Год назад
Was hesitant to use the longsword at first because of the attack pattern but as i learned the game and relaized that you can melee block with it not just with the shield i realized its really strong in pvp against barbs and other fighters
@DnDimo
@DnDimo Год назад
Absolutely insane!
@Murasame13
@Murasame13 Год назад
0:40 The tip of the blade actually does have a hitbox. It's just much further away from you, so it's harder to use. Oggieson does some great videos on longsword parries and even uses the tip of the blade to parry skeleton archers!
@thatone7589
@thatone7589 Год назад
this is super well done
@BassoonIII
@BassoonIII Год назад
Dang, I wish I found this during the demo, I was one day too late.
@Pazuzu1500
@Pazuzu1500 Год назад
Great video. Thank you!
@luizguilhermecortez3460
@luizguilhermecortez3460 Год назад
You know, that explains a few deaths I suffered
@carbharharbcar5867
@carbharharbcar5867 14 дней назад
riposte comes out like a gunshot jesus
@byrne8509
@byrne8509 Год назад
Nice informative vid. Be well.
@ORJ_yong
@ORJ_yong Год назад
It blocks arrow some times
@BadyearOakarus
@BadyearOakarus Год назад
ah so this is that vermintide pvp i heard so much about
@noxusguy9735
@noxusguy9735 Год назад
man I didnt even know, and now i am more addcited to play game and try longsword
@Daartii
@Daartii Год назад
I hope they try to add some more mordhau style combat with how you can change directions with which way you swing, feinting, etc.
@isaactanner5041
@isaactanner5041 Год назад
They've said they won't and as a mordhau player I really respect it because in our lovely game the skill floor is way too far from the ever-growing skill ceiling! It causes a rift in the game where new people feel like they just get stomped, the simplistic combat now focuses on positioning far more than sheer fighting force it's what makes the Longsword and Flute feel so fresh compared to the blocks/alt attacks people are used to and provides a lovely form of skill expression
@happybomb777
@happybomb777 Год назад
amazing video man deserves more views and likes !!
@StahovacMrtvol
@StahovacMrtvol Год назад
Thx for your work sir, perfect explanation.
@RGHuron
@RGHuron Год назад
that first one had me lol nicely done
@lordtachankav
@lordtachankav Год назад
miss this game
@edwinyang7595
@edwinyang7595 Год назад
I love the mechanics! Nice video
@bufustern
@bufustern Год назад
looks similar to chivalry when you have to follow the tip of the attacking weapon in order to block efficiently.
@gamingdealer9514
@gamingdealer9514 Год назад
I knew there was something going on with the longsword but I didnt think to press right click after a block to attack.
@RedBCPride82
@RedBCPride82 Год назад
That 1v1 against the spear was A1
@WorldofSoupS
@WorldofSoupS Год назад
Still practicing, but super satisfying to do when it works
@jgwentworthh
@jgwentworthh Год назад
Very good video, ty.
@mrwhippy3756
@mrwhippy3756 Год назад
Damn... the devs are smart af... the tip of the blade has no collision because that would be a failed parry. They would bust right through your guard and hit you. The base of the blade is where you want the attack to land to cause a bind and thus a riposte is able to be preformed. That's actually fucking insane that the devs thought of that
@sychodelicstorm5592
@sychodelicstorm5592 Год назад
me and my friends already figured out looking up moves your body backwards some, so me and my friends have been using this and then crouching and looking up to dodge an initial thrust attack and then ape the attacker before they can get another attack, cant wait for the future when combat is perfected by sweaties and people are narrowly dodging and blocking
@Argun0
@Argun0 Год назад
such a great vid
@borrioboy6272
@borrioboy6272 Год назад
next playtest is about to be so sweaty
@shane3744
@shane3744 Год назад
Great gameplay!
@Armelier
@Armelier Год назад
tremendo espadachin!!
@SirShmoopyofAwesometon
@SirShmoopyofAwesometon Год назад
As a longsword player, my biggest fear is other longswords and spears. If I see this I stand back and pelt them with arrows instead.
@KEM0N0
@KEM0N0 Год назад
Im not sure if something has changed since this video, but throughout the playtest ive found the part of the longsword that is below the cursor has far better success rate in blocking than the part above there cursor towards the hilt. I tend to aim the leading edge of the sword towards what I'm blocking and it works out 90% of the time, even when an attack initially misses me while I sidestep and then "swipe" my parry into the attack.
@rybosaur6860
@rybosaur6860 Год назад
That's because the video is not based on actual real info but an opinion. The whole length of the longsword has a hitbox and collisions, in the part where he says it does not, the enemy's sword swings alongside his weapon, they just not make any clash, it hits his arm/side. You should be doing what you said, aiming the tip of the weapon to parry, not the bottom part. If you focus on the bottom part, it might be too late and the enemy sword can hit you before it hits your parry, especially overhead hits. Though the parry is incredibly strong in open areas, I would advise from doing so against spears, daggers and quarter staves. Also tight spaces obviously. You are better just focusing on landing headshots during these.
@Dragondave17real
@Dragondave17real Год назад
@@rybosaur6860 I agree because of the block at 3:00 he blocks a war maul with the tip of his longsword. Earlier on I think he just got struck on the arm.
@Terrapin-gw6bb
@Terrapin-gw6bb Год назад
impressive skills
@rehmanmir7865
@rehmanmir7865 Год назад
I had a Longsword 1v1 while my squad was fighting the other enemies and I had to tip my hat to them. They waited for me to thrust and they somehow blocked it perfectly and I was dead
@noah_hill
@noah_hill Год назад
I have blocked arrows with the longsword, and if you have space to back pedal then slow barbs are trivial
@XDarons
@XDarons Год назад
gooood... you are begining to believe, continue you training , soon you'll be riposting chain lightning back into mages faces
@christianwillmon6616
@christianwillmon6616 Год назад
@@XDarons wait, can you seriously block magic with LS?
@XDarons
@XDarons Год назад
@@christianwillmon6616 it's surprizing the amount of things you can block, you can block the axe traps, you can block magic missles, fireballs will still do splash damage regardless of being blocked, as for chain lightning though, I don't believe it can be blocked.
@user-zo5xg2js1z
@user-zo5xg2js1z Год назад
this is good movie
@BudaKhan420
@BudaKhan420 11 месяцев назад
So I wonder if you sweep the block, like you would sweep an attack to cleave, if that’s the way to parry thrusting attacks. regardless, still a good video today
@Bishop1664
@Bishop1664 Год назад
Good tutorial thanks
@mustangunique3214
@mustangunique3214 Год назад
wow that's sick! Really amazing, nice video!
@gigachimp3608
@gigachimp3608 Год назад
oh shit a zwerchau
@foodfaction1180
@foodfaction1180 Год назад
you can actually block arrows too dunno bout crossbow bolts but ive blocked some arrows
@DJTanner5
@DJTanner5 Год назад
D I N G G G
@jaredh923
@jaredh923 Год назад
Blocking needs a rework.
@FienX_
@FienX_ Год назад
at exactly 1:16 the spear hit the tip of your longsword in the exact area you depicted has zero collision, meaning youre possibly incorrect about the collision and you just missed a block instead.
@AndyStrats
@AndyStrats Год назад
Hey, Daron Can we have permission to feature part of your clip on our RU-vid channel? We shall Credit you on screen and link your channel as well. We are starting a best and funniest moments series for the Dark and Darker community and would love to feature this video!
@XDarons
@XDarons Год назад
feel free to feature it!
@nugget1191
@nugget1191 Год назад
Ong love you
@athilion00b
@athilion00b Год назад
ta famoso hein amigo
@kiritimatiswan1986
@kiritimatiswan1986 Год назад
Imagine chivalry 2 mechanics in this game. I wouldnt play anything else
@NameOKT
@NameOKT Год назад
make this mechanic to all weaps and this game can be fun
@thwomp1542
@thwomp1542 Год назад
**ding** **gunshot**
@elLocodelsubte
@elLocodelsubte Год назад
intersting
@wavys2543
@wavys2543 Год назад
dang they might want to like go over how that works. How are you supposed to really know how the parries work? I like @James Miller's comment about sort of a practice mode.
@NteyDK
@NteyDK Год назад
Thrusting attacks and even arrows can be riposted too. Its hard tho.
@Tinkuwu
@Tinkuwu Год назад
As someone who actually has a longsword and has practiced fighting my brother with sparring swords, there is a reason why the parry hitbox won't allow you to parry further down the blade, as that's not how you can parry. The way you parry is by catching the end of your opponent's blade closer to your blade's crossguard in order to have more leverage than your opponent. It does not matter how strong your opponent is, if you have the leverage, you can guide your opponent's blade wherever you want, which allows you to push them to the side and riposte with a followup attack, leaving them defenseless.
@Carpatouille
@Carpatouille Год назад
You know the devs did their research for how fighting with swords actually work from this. Not being able to block from the tip, nor thrusting weapons is realistic. As blocking with the tip would not be enough to stop an attacking foe striking with a weapon, and thrusting being rather hard to block without "attacking"/parrying the thrusting weapon to get it out of the way. Can't be ultra 100% realistic, but it's still nicely done.
@jonchuriki4861
@jonchuriki4861 Год назад
u riposte the spear with the tip tho
@fernachilex235
@fernachilex235 Год назад
The tip of the blade does have hitbox, but it is close to nothing maybe?. I say this because i have parried with the tip of the blade, but is hard to do. Not effective in combat
@SuperOmegaReal
@SuperOmegaReal Год назад
every riposte in this video is done with the tip of the blade
@ptrckhnry7634
@ptrckhnry7634 Год назад
Interesting they only gave a hitbox to the strong of the blade
@Geblino
@Geblino Год назад
minmaxing this jank game is gonna be the reason why its going to die off lmao
@isaiahferreira5267
@isaiahferreira5267 Год назад
Sword didnt even touch the guy in the first example though. Give me a break
@opencasketfacelift
@opencasketfacelift Год назад
0:47 .......... silly 1:43 shield doesn't act as a real thing unless in hand?
@adriandeveraaa
@adriandeveraaa Год назад
You said at 0:40 the tip of the sword has no collision. But at 3:00 you can see it hit the tip. Wtf?
@ReavenM1911A1
@ReavenM1911A1 Год назад
What classes can use the Longsword? This looks fun but I was a wizard player
@XDarons
@XDarons Год назад
it's a fighter exclusive weapon
@coltonwiley359
@coltonwiley359 Год назад
tried this on skeletons, it doesnt do any damage
@derpy566
@derpy566 Год назад
Seems like characters are right handed, so maybe playing to the left would block easier?
@LaughingMan44
@LaughingMan44 Год назад
this game is like watching a disabled kid play Mordhau
@o7Pabo
@o7Pabo Год назад
I don't think that the tip has no hitbox otherwise this wouldn't work at all, you just missed your block entirely 0:50
@XDarons
@XDarons Год назад
Possibly, having no training area to test these things doesn't help I was having difficulties blocking with the longsword, so I suspected about the tip having no hitbox and started trying to block with the center of the blade, and I got better results I had many situations where an attack phased right through the tip this could also be a result of some inconcistency between the 3rd person and 1st person model or just plain old lag
@o7Pabo
@o7Pabo Год назад
@XDaron hmm maybe when blocking the blade tip doesn't have a hit box 🤔
@chunheikwok6738
@chunheikwok6738 Год назад
why u look like collision reverse in video...
@GiRR007
@GiRR007 Год назад
I feel like rapier should also have a repost no?
@Erik122_
@Erik122_ Год назад
Weird how you know all this but still try to block attacks with your cursor and not the hitbox of the sword
@Yoobster
@Yoobster Год назад
how do you play it if its unreleased?
@O1dkuku
@O1dkuku Год назад
the tip of the blade now does have a collision
@Firedrop2
@Firedrop2 Год назад
can it block arcane missiles?
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