Darktide : A complete guide to shotguns I Veteran 

They behave like real shotguns unlike most other games. Most shotguns are lethal out to 100+ ft/ 30+ m.

UT soundtrack is fire

One thing ive always liked about warhammer rpgs and video games is the shotguns behave like real shotguns, honestly kinda rare

I agree that bleed on the lawbringer shell would help a lot with the utility and make its gimmick more fun. plus some synergy with zealot builds.

You immediately had me locked in for the whole video with the music choice

A fellow shotgun connoisseur. Nice video, lots of good information here. Agree that they'd be top tier if it wasn't for their ammo and reload animation restrictions, the Agripinaa VII especially feels insane on the Veteran in terms of killing power. Maybe we will get a blessing to address this one day.

Basically what the three shotguns are in lore: (all three are said to be wielded by the Arbites in the description text, but in truth the other two actually have other origins) - The Lawbringer is basically a standard Arbites Shotgun and very common, on table top these things are rubbish but cost no points to equip. - The Agripinaa is the current Shotgun issued by the Imperial Guard (not described as such but is so on the miniatures kits). - The Kantrael is actually based on the Space Marine Assault Shotgun. From what I can tell, it appears to be a less powerful miniature version of that Shotgun but maintains a similar level of armour piecing power, it also fires Inferno Shot. The Kantrael is exclusive to Darktide, it doesn't exist anywhere else. It does resemble to some degree two of the older Preacher Shotgun miniature's shotguns, so it may be based on those models. Very certain it was originally intended to be the ranged weapon of choice for the Zealot and seems geared towards that too as the Zealot passive tree works better with it than the Veteran, I'd argue the same is the case with the Lawbringer too. BTW The Shotgun in the game Boltgun is *not* a Space Marine Assault Shotgun, it is in fact a Deathwatch Shotgun, very different. The Deathwatch Shotgun is a nasty piece of work because it fires big nasty custom cartages such as acid darts etc, however the standard one it uses (which is the one you use in the game) launches a spread of mini-bolt darts that are armour piecing and explode, so it is kind of like to a Boltgun as an LBX is to an Autocannon. The recent changes to the passive trees and the subsequent patches have resulted in Shotguns being relatively balanced now. The Kantrael is no longer OP with an unlimited range collision ignoring inferno shot; But still is a great ranged alternative to a flamer and the Zealot tree really ramps up it's Inferno Shot burn damage. Also the changes to the passives means that Lawbringer no longer sucks on Veteran, you can use passives for stagger to really make use of it's staggering ability as a form of crowd control now, which is the intended purpose of the weapon. As for Agripinaa, you can build a Veteran to use it as a ranged version of the Power Maul to blast the shield away from the corrupted Ogryns, which was it's original purpose too, an absolute must bring weapon for higher difficulties if your team comp is all ranged and you don't have an Ogryn melee tank.

@6:10 Lawbringer build 7:58 Agripinna 10:52 Kentrel

The base shotguns special shell is a CC , its excellent at stunning specials. i always load the special shell when i hear a special coming, its perfect for nailing them and staggering, then unloading a couple regular rounds into their head.

Full Bore has been fixed, and you can no longer shoot through walls with the Kantrael. I forgot a couple of things. Shotguns can push back leaping bursters (not recommended) You regain stamina while getting shot/taking damage, so duck and dive is made doubly useless by that fact, since Unwavering Focus effectively lets you do the same thing but without the need to dodge, while making you nearly immortal.

The old school Unreal Tournament background music got this video an automatic like. With that said, the video was also excellent, and definitely worthy of a like.

On top of the Kantrael burn shooting through stuff, the burn tiks proc headtaker. shoot 2 fire shells at a mixed horde, swap to a head taker 4 Hvy swd for +75% more damage ticks and 90% of it will be dead before they get to you.

The explanation of the relevant hidden mechanisms convinced me to revisit scatterguns later today........fingers crossed.

Really nice guide! Super informative and no time wasted.

Faithfully appreciate your videos! You always share experiment in detail and bring hidden specs to all of us. Thanks for your selfless contribution and love you. (Guys~ We have new stuffs to play!) btw, should NEVER trust words in game from Fatshark :)

That's really useful to know, I never knew there was so much hidden info across these weapons. Since using it I've found it really hard to change out from the Agripinaa Shotgun now, it's so fun and versatile and the Slug shot is just so useful.

Hands up for the music

Let special shells synergize with all reload related blessings/talents.

As a Zelo I found that clip rlly helpful. I use Kantrael with on respite and hit& run but I will tests other conbo perks

This video was super informative nice guide.

I love the kantrael on my zealot with terrifying barrage I can take out elites and specials with ease, and can quickly eliminate a target forcing the others to take coverm opening up the options of retreating or closing the gap to go ham with melee, It came with deathespitter I'm not too fussed as I'm not killing droves of shooters but it is exceptional at giving my zealot breathing room in tense situations without the need of using a grenade, terrifying barrage is a potentially overlooked perk that gives your team and zealot support and should be considered as a zealot over damage feats

Very helpful, keep up the good work!

It should be noted that the fire dot of the kantrael is affected by no respite.

The base shotguns special shell is actually really useful against crowds, the wide spread can mow down a few rows of chaff and the increased stagger ensures that those that do survive will be stopped in their track or even knocked down.

I like the Kantrael cause it's such a good way to build up crit chance. Yes, I'm _absolutely_ proc'ing scattershot this time.

indeed, whole point of the shotgun is you can top-up on the move and always have it loaded. also NEEDS to put down enemies with a single shot, that is part of it's original (real-world) military purpose--to quickly neutralize multiple defenders of an enemy trench with some element of surprise. Applied to the vidya gaem here, it should probably reliably put down the various gunners/guys with rifles shooting at you with a single round.

I appreciate the effort it takes digging through the games code to figure out how the weapon systems work but frustrating beyond belief that you need to. Come on dev's.

Fulling loading a shotgun is probably my least favorite thing about it. It's got to be one of the longest reloads for a gun.

Good Guide - I now know everything about shotgun and I am Ogryn.

Nice Video structure really informative

I like your music choice

Shotguns are such nice and fun weapons to use in Darktide, let's hope FatShark doesn't notice and 'fix' it...

Great guide!

Great music

Kantrael burn damage nerf against flak came just in time for this video. JK, it will be fine. Just annoying how all sources of burn were given a nerf because FS didn't know how else to nerf the flamer. Also, once Kantrael infinite pierce is actually fixed, I wonder how useful the alt fire will really be.

Background music - Facing worlds from Unreal tournament

Shotguns really need an ammo buff, even 30% would be good...

any chance a guide on the headhunter rifles (non braced). what would each MK godroll look like?

I feel like the kantrel fire pellet isnt infin pen like before. Yesterday i wasnt seeing the whole horde catch fire like usual

7/5/2023 checking in to see if Full Bore is fixed? You mentioned around 3:45...

mmmm, Foregone Destruction... I feel old and video is nice too

I just started my fresh zealot so will try them all

Are there any good flechette builds? Ripper MkII with flechette, +5% chance, and cavalcade IV is my favorite Ogryn weapon

I still don't understand how to use the dragon's breath attack at all. Its NOT a flamer, you can't lay down sustained coverage but a quick slap of flame, so you hit the 3 or 4 clumped together and they usually don't die before they're upon you anyway. The times you're faced with a long hallway full of enemies is rarer then I'd like when I'm using this gun.

They are all awesome

dude your game looks so smooth? Can you please share your video settings detailed?

Agripina is so damm fun. Special ammo makes it feel like a bolt action.

How do you spawn bosses/clump up units/ and have em attack you? Thanks!!

how do you put all the stats in the game? like viewing the ammo count and the health/shield of your allies?

At what range were you when you fired the guns for your pellet spread picture?

Facing worlds

I still don't see any reason to use a shotgun as vet, when I can use a autoshred pistol, MG XII or Boltgun. With the zealot on the other side it's very interesting because it synergies with his hyper mobility.

i think that Simran gamer was carrying u tbf

Very nice and informative video, but I cant stop thinking that any shotgun is just a poor version of the boltgun. Less sustained damage, less burst damage, less armor penetrarion...there isnt a single reason to pick them over bolter un T5 high other than their abusive bugs

Happy we discovered the same build and got the same blast out of the same barrel.

Try deathspitter paired with fire frenzy. One-shotting mutants, maulers, reapers and everything that is not pure carapace is pretty lit.

So as of 2024 have they fixed fullbore yet?

nice

What mod are you using that make teammates glow like that

what the hek ? One after the other is 30% reload speed and tac reload is 20% but for agripina you reload faster with tac r than OATO.... this game !

how you can activate a bot in the bot lobby?! and how u got a monster?! i steel don't have it? there a button or what?! lol

Oh boy, the reason you don't like the special round for the Lawbringer is because you're using it wrong and demonstrating it against completely the wrong targets. The Lawbringer's special is a "duckbill" round, a fan of pellets significantly wider than the normal shot but much flatter, with extra penetration. Because of the "minimum pellets" mechanic you mentioned, it's an absolute MONSTER at horde clear: basic infected and poxwalkers get cut in half by it and it cuts deep enough that you'll push the front edge of the horde back with successive shots despite the load time.

woah thats a wierd looking ui howd u get it

irony is you actually have to aim the shotgun to use it well lol

I love the shotgun but cannot stand the difference in spread between hip and ADS. They need to be the same.

good video, but this is why I hate games like these. You're playing a calculator more than you are playing a game.

Hopeing a fun mechanic gets ruined quickly, gee wiz thanks for ruining that for everyone else.

man that ui sucks,i cannot watch it