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"It is you who fears death. Valkorion. I do not. I will not kneel" the most badass sith and braver than any other because all they wanted was to extend there lives out of cowedise.
That's legimitately untrue of many Sith, sure plenty were only concerned with not dying, but a great many actually had a purpose greater than just themselves. Darth Vectivus (who mostly just studied the force for the benefit of future generations and died surrounded by friends), Darth Revan (who, while evil, was only trying to conquer the galaxy to prepare it for the invasion of the true Sith), Darth Gravid (who actually tried to meld Sith teachings with those of the Jedi, and in doing so weakened the Sith) and others. The reasons people pursue the Sith teachings are varied
@Jarrod Reed vitiate was a narcissistic sociopath with delusions of Godhood that used advanced sith alchemy to enhance his already godlike abilities to unending amounts. He was a sith though. When he annihilated Ziost he was overwhelmed like revan was and retreated to Zakuul and became more than a mere sith as Valkorion he was a master alchemist thus his godlike power nihilus was close but didn't go as far, revan was actually the weakest dark lord, kun was a pathetic dark jedi, Sadow was a very powerful sith and marr was a smart, deceitful borderline sociopath who saw the empire as what it could be with a proper leader and he would have gotten away with it to if it wasn't for those meddling knights... 😂 😂 😂
When i did that part i immediately went "you're just trying to become emperor aren't you" and then he said that and immediately gained multiple respect points
During Darth Bane's era when he was in the academy, a lot of sith adopted this philosophy and they nearly destroyed the jedi. They had demolished the jedi's morale so much that the jedi took a page out of the sith book and started turning on each other and accusing each other. You read it in path of destruction when the battle master lord hoth begins to panic and starts yelling at his fellow jedi.
The greatest Sith of all time. Sure others were more powerful but Marr represented something many other sith lacked, honor. And I love how he was not so stupid to where he could not compromise. He agreed to work with Satele in life and even found understanding with her after his death. “In life, I dismissed the Jedi code. I was wrong. There is no death. There is only the Force and it has a plan.” - Darth Marr. My favorite Sith, ever!
Marr and Malgus both, they had the basic Sith need for personal power and glory, but also a true faith in the empire and it's people. Marr a bit more visibly so, but Malgus was also ready to sacrifice everything if it meant the Empire could survive
Ivan Timofeevich in the end when he accepted part of the Jedi code, yeah, he was not a true with anymore, but before that he was, compromising with one enemy to focus on a more important one doesn’t change that
actually i think a number of the ancient sith did have such concepts its the rule of 2 that almost completely abandoned such concepts and part of the reason they fell they were all or at least the last one were complete psychopath well such tendencies weren't uncommon in the ancient sith they did usually at least usually had loyalty to things like their family, culture, whatever faction they maybe part of etc the rule of 2 were all for the most part exclusively out for themselves can't really think of one sith of the rule of 2 excpet perhaps maybe its founder bane that that really had any sense of honor or selflessness
@@TysonTheRand even sith have an honor, but is it something more like pride, but some like Marr had this pride without being overly arrogant as most sith are, he refused to kneel even if it meant death, and in death he realized the truth of the force, not just of the jedi, but the force as a whole, as this was a sith whom was able to trancend death itself, and like many jedi become one with the force, and kept their indiviuality as a force ghost something only jedi have done right till that point, sith before only bound their spirit to things, places, etc.
I think I have found my favourite Sith. Badass, proud, a man of his code. A sense of pride but not one that blinds him. Capable of working alongside his enemy if needed. Powerful warrior but also tactician. And capable of attaining what is normally impossible for a Sith.
@@jigglybandito9505 Becoming one with the force is usually impossible for sith as they must accept death and let go of their personal obsessions. This is completely against sith dogma making those who can do it exceptionally rare and probably branded as traitors to the sith. But in Marr case his obsession was not for personal gain, power or dominance over others rather it was to protect the empire and his people (very jedi like traits). He was also always welcoming of death considering it the final solace. Meaning it was very easy for him to unite with the force.
Valkorion: Kneel. Marr: No. Valkorion: Please? Marr: No. Valkorion: Then you would prefer death? Marr: Yes. Valkorion: Really? You would rather die than acknowledge my superiority? Marr: It is YOU who fears death, "Valkorion". I do not! I will not kneel! Valkorion: Are you sure? Marr: Yes! I will never again kneel to you! Valkorion: ...Are you SURE? Marr: Screw this. (Grabs a staff and begins to own Valkorion's guards) *Valkorion kills Marr* *Marr appears as a Force ghost* Marr: Lmao skill issue. Valkorion: GODDAMMIT!
"You cannot win "Valkorion". If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine." Interesting to note that a Sith in peace with the possibility of his death becomes one with the Force. Jedi are generally not afraid of dying since they believe "There is no Death, there is the Force". Sith on the other hand are generally afraid of dying. This can mainly be seen with Palpatine or Andeddu but also Vitiate as they do everything they can to become immortal. In fine, most of them only managed to bound part of their essence to places or objects like Holocrons. Others managed, though their pure power, to have their spirit stay in the galaxy, although it is not a pleasant existence and has driven most mad. It seems that the acceptance of his imminent death allowed him to remain in the galaxy like Jedi do.
it's kind of hilarious that a dark lord of the sith and member of the dark council became a force ghost despite countless jedi failing to achieve this state. It just further proves the complete failure and corruption of the jedi
Disney please bring back The Sith Lord's they're far more interesting than The Knights of Ren and have a richer back story and history, enjoyed this video guys, continue with great pride! 💯
He's a truly wise Sith Lord. Wiser than Plagueis. And he has an even greater tragedy. Palpatine you're stupid. But you know who's worse than that? Bioware. Because they killed off Marr relatively quickly.
+Manthan Shah Just... don't go past chapter 1 in KOTFE and you're golden. Get him to influence level 50 and enjoy getting crits in crafting. #ForeverWithMarr
Palpatine is legendary, he is the true manifistetion of the dark side. No honor, no loyality, no nothing..... In other words, he is rotten all the way to the core :D
Asbjørn Vedsted true but if he was true manifestation of dark side he wouldn’t be sooooo obsessed with immortality & the unknown regions. Palpatine was just a high powerful servant of the dark side but showed his humanly cowardice to live forever. Which in retrospect is more of a human trait rather than a dark side symbol.
The old Republic is very close to being completely cannon. Darth Nihilis, Sith troopers, HK 47, Sith assassins, and Jedi warriors appear in the New Galaxy of heros game made by Disney. Darth Revan is in the Deleted scenes of the clone wars. The Sith temple of Malacore is featured in Star Wars Rebels with remains of a battle between the Jedi and the Sith; and possibly the voice of Darth Treya, or another Sith Lady from the SWOR era could be speaking through the Sith holocron. SWR season three also made the Mandalorian Jedi and War cannon.
Remember, Canon has only existed for 3 years, while Legends have been there for 39 or 40 years, so of course we haven't had a Canon The Old Republic thing, let alone content that took place thousands of years before the Battle of Yavin (the rebel attack on the first Death Star that resulted in the Death Star's destruction). Disney will slowly re-canonize the Old Republic things. In fact, as Paul Philip said, work has already been done on some of the Old Republic things. One example is how Malachor was the site of an ancient battle between the Jedi and Sith and a Sith structure of sorts in Canon, just like in Legends (except Malachor was called Malachor V in Legends). It is even speculated that the Presence (the mysterious voice in a Sith holocron found on Malachor in Star Wars Rebels) in Canon is at least a Canon equivalent to Darth Traya from TOR.
( sandromnator , Paul Philp , DanKilorySpock - STAR WARS )Agreed. I do think Disney will allow a lot of Legends back into Canon, but let's hope it works out better than the new Canon for Kyber-crystals and further lightsaber mythos
sigh I sincerely hope many of you come to realize that The Old Republic and other things in The EU were never Cannon to begin with that being said I wouldn't mind seeing The Old Republic becoming a part of the New Cannon as it still is my favorite Star Wars Era
he didnt look like he was 70 in the original...what are you, 12? he was like 50 at most. which would make sense since he had fought in a long war and knew mostly pain and loss his entire life.
marr is by far my favorite sith of all time simply because he was more like the modern sith in terms of politics but at a time when the sith were more warriors. he held the sith empire together by himself which is something i think very few sith could do and marr does not get enough credit for that achievement. in fact the only sith i think could have done what marr did was palpatine himself as other sith would likely have not been able to keep the sith empire in check like marr did.
Palpatine was the complete opposite of Marr. Palpatine just like Valkorion was mostly out for his personal gain just like most sith. He just happened to be a good politician. Marr however cared for his people. He used the dark side of the force for the good of the sith empire and not for himself which is why he kept the empire together.
Stego1819 Arguably not, Palpatine finally achieved the dream of the Sith. He also was acting to prepare the galaxy for the Yuzhan Vong, I can't remember how to spell it. No I don't think he could have held the empire *like* Marr did but may have ascended to Vititate's position. Palpatine was not out for personal gain, he was out for the gain of the Sith Order (Rule of 2) just in a politician's way unlike the warrior route with Marr.
@Edward Griffiths Are you sure that he wanted to prepare the galaxy for the vong? As far as I know it is only a fan theory and it simply doesnt fit into the personality of Palpatine and he also stopped Vader from becoming a stronger sith just so that he would stay in power.
Easily the most badass Sith in not only the game but any Star Wars era. Beneath his cool outlook was a veteran ravaged in both mind and body ready to die any time for the empire. He was the most reasonable Sith you could find in that era. I remember grinding a lot as a new-ish player to get his armor(since the set was above 10m on my server).
Darth Marr is one of my favorite sith lords ever. The Force is a paradox. It empowers, and imprisons. It destroys and unites. It binds the galaxy together, and tears people apart. It has a will... but needs a commander. -Darth Marr
That was just a rumour. It’s also possible that the Moff did so because he had somehow angered Marr and so committed suicide rather than face his wrath. And said incident grew into a sort of legend about his appearance.
Well, it was just a rumour. It could also be the Moff killed himself because he was so afraid of knowing what Marr looked like under the mask, as Marr had previously destroyed or silenced everything and everyone who had any information about his past. Marr wished to be seen as a symbol, not as a person.
Broken Bridge same here he truly redeemed himself he was skilled powerful fearless and intelligent yet he had honor that's almost unheard-of considering he is/was a sith
Marr and Malgus are the exact opposite of each other Marr : he was loved AND respected (like darth imperuis aka light side sith inquisitor) Malgus : he was mostly feared (maybe that's he was the best candidate for the third emperor's wrath)
Malgus had a lover...and he killed her. Kind of why I went from "Malgus is fucking badass" to "Fucking die." Still, throwing the fact he killed his lover aside...he is one of the strongest Sith to ever grace the Star Wars universe. His knowledge of the force, just by understanding is probably only bested by Vitiate. His skill in combat? His only equal is probably Vader who based his fighting OFF of Malgus' style. Malgus' could probably take Vader apart considering that when he killed his lover...SHE became his power...in death, she was his greatest strength. The pain that she was gone, the love he had her for, the hatred at himself for killing her...THAT fueled him...and probably why he fucking stabbed himself AFTER BEING CRUSHED just to get out from under Acina's thumb. Stabbed himself. Yea...he fucking strong as all get out.
One of my favorite Sith Lords in Star Wars. Really can't hate Darth Marr, one of the very few honorable Sith I've came across. That and his voice actor is amazing.
Marr reminds me a lot of Bane from the Dark Knight Rises. He projects this...PRESENCE that is very easy to admire. You can FEEL that he is powerful even when he isn't actually fighting, and he has proven himself to be not only smart, but also open minded, so even though the jedi-sith alliance was something that many struggled to accept, if memory serves, he was actually willing to go along with it without much problems. I don't know if I call it a miss that he never showed his face (from what I saw so far), but I will say that he OWNED every scene he was in.
This dude is my favorite Sith... He is just ridiculously awesome. Him and the Sith dude who lets you in to fight Baras saying: "Oh this is going to be great, if only we could sell tickets!"
Yeah... they ought to have crowned Darth Marr Emperor after Vitiate's true agenda became more widely known (or at least after the Hero of Tython defeated him).
It been 2 years after this video, but for me, Darth Marr is one of the sith lords who take the sith code and mix with the jedi code, one of the feel to be a beacon of hope and power in the force
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I've got a lot of "favorite" Sith but Darth Marr's probably the top dog. I modeled my Sith Warrior in SWTOR after him, serving the Empire, but with honor. Too bad he died quick. I'd pay to see more of that fella.
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Marr has escalated to be among my favorite Sith. He seems much more moderate and tempered than most Sith. He didn't believe in ambition superseding duty, nor did he crave power for personal sake. Much rather craving it for the success of the Empire. He also carried a sense of respect for other species and the Jedi.
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+The Scoundrel's Cantina You missed "Isotope-5" a point of major importance and influence to the strength of the Imperials. Where a small task-force sent and directed by Marr saved the planet from destruction due to the over-mining of Isotope-5 by the Hutts. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Fv6fPlQBvFQ.html
I've never seen the story of Darth Marr until now and if I had to choose a Sith Lord to follow it would be him. Whether it be extreme power and strength or in the force, those mean nothing to me. A true show of strength in my eyes is honor. For myself if I'm going to die I may as well die in a battle with honor.
Darth Marr is basically the Sith version of Master Windu, while being prodigy in the traditional way (side) of the force, they also did not deny and found useful the opposite side (Windu's dark side saber style and Marr's becoming one with the force), both went to arrest some force user (Marr was more successful tho :D) leading their other council members, also both were eventually killed by some sorta sith emperor.
Marr, a Sith Lord who is a devout practitioner of the dark side of the force. However, he didn’t let that corrupt his morals. Very honorable, for a Sith Lord.
It's truly awesome to know that these different Sith, Darth Revan, Darth Malak, Vitiate, Marr and even Tulak Hord all have some connection to one another. Tulak Hord's lightsaber being found by Darth Marr. Darth Revan eventually bringing Vitiate back despite being attempted stopped by Darth Marr and others. Vitiate, now Valkorion killing Darth Marr. Darth Malak being the former co-operative of Darth Revan. I wonder a little bit here though. Where does Darth Malgus fit into this? I mean, he is part of history, but does he have anything to do in this time? or does that occur later/earlier? I know Nihilus, Sion and Traja operated around the same time as Revan and Malak. It's just so many Sith that shear the same time, it's awesome.
I imagine if the sith had a mindset more aligned with Marr they could of been much more a threat in Legends OR. And even if it isn't "canon" anymore still gotta give props to Bioware for giving me one of my top 5 Sith Lords. Nice recap video sir, keep it up!
Darth marr is a rare type of sith lord. An honorable man despite the dark side, refusing to kneel before darth vitiate, and didn't let the fear of death stop him knowing death itself was inevitable, and believed the sith empire had to evolve to survive.
You didn't mention the part marr played in saving the Empire by sending the Imperial Hero character to Makeb, and how he stalled to give time to save the Empire and get Isotope 5
