Jeremy Brett was the only one who actually was Sherlock Holmes in the Grenada TV series but I did love this episode because what could be better than Star Trek AND Sherlock Holmes. My favorite books combined with my favorite show.
Interestingly, this is Geordi's favorite episode. I have to say that if I were making a BEST OF STNG DVD (with one episode from each season), this would be a strong contender for the S2 episode.
Well, they never turned off the safety protocols, so what could go wrong? Also, doesn't the computer have voice recognition? On the flagship starship of the Federation, you would think the computer wouldn't be so forthcoming with information for a voice it doesn't recognize.
Turned into a very good example of be careful what you ask for. It's one of those little details that wasn't resolved until the destruction of the enterprise D in the movies.
Moriarty's smile as he refers to the arch as "The best kind" of black magic gets me every time. He was an amazing character and definitely deserved more than 2 episodes.
The irony is, it seems at some point after Voyager, with all the talk about rights of sentient programs, that would come up again. But the franchise hasn't gone forward in time from that point to date, just various prequels and alternate dimension prequels.
The holo-deck in TNG has got to be one of the strangest and most intriguing pieces of tech in the Star Trek universe, it's technology makes absolutely no sense yet it's incredibly fascinating all the same-it's very easy to question the how and why of the holo-deck but you just don't care because the stories that come out of it are just so awesome.
I like how the type of technology that can write new stories in the style of dead writers is something that Data has to Geordi, but now is something that is becoming the reality for us, and will shortly become a norm
So, the computer had Moriarty recognize the Arch PRIOR to being told to create an adversary capable of defeating Data...So the computer was ALREADY going out of bounds and then Geordi makes it go a level deeper. Oh yeah, they screwed themselves there.
In the end, Data figured out that Moriarty was trying to gain consciousness in order to beat him, and he mostly did. It was Picard that talked Moriarty down, but the man himself confessed he didn't want to win anymore, he just wanted to survive. So Data was right and Moriarty was "defeated" but with the promise that he might come back. Was Dr. Pulaski right? Did Data lose, supporting her argument that he's incapable of inspiration and original thought? Or did Data win, supporting Geordi's argument that he is?
Worst "perimeters" ever entered into the computer. Simply ask it to create a program in the Holmes still WITHOUT using Holmes based references. When all the names are changed and the connections are removed, THEN you would find out just how much "inspiration" and "deduction" Data is capable of on his own.
I think he was just observing Data and Co and evesdropping. They did have a rather strange conversation before going over to the arch. IMHO he was looking at them, then saw the arch when it appeared.
Holodeck characters should never see the arch. And the computer should never respond to commands from it's own holodeck characters. This was a fun episode but it made no sense whatsoever, even within the usual limit-stretching we accept from holodeck storylines.
@@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg "And the computer should never respond to commands from it's own holodeck characters." based on what? pretty sure vince(?) in DS9 could also do some commands himself like ending the programm. granted he was no ordinary hologram but requesting a nemisis that can defeat data requires a non ordinary hologram aswell.
@@94Newbie Vic was unique because he KNEW he was a hologram and was given access to certain commands and procedures. Only how Quarks computer's are going to handle a program running so long. Look at what happened to the emh and Fairhaven.
Pulaski's critique was pointless. Since it was the story that was unoriginal, she shouldn't have chastised Data for being able to predict it. Also, I guess we know who's indirectly responsible for Moriarty's coming to "life"...
One of the reasons I didn't like her character. Poorly written, and for some reason always trying to underrate Data in some way. Her turnaround came a bit to late in the season. Glad they switched back to doctor Crusher.
She says that Data is not capable of using reasoning to solve a truly original mystery. Meanwhile Data encounters unique problems every single day and solves them with logic and reason. This was a truly stupid critique considering what we've seen Data actually do as a bridge officer. Sometimes the writing on this show is just full of whatever plot hole they need to get a particular storyline going.
@Hakageryuu No, you moron. The interactions would be scripted differently. I bet you think that if McCoy was on TNG instead of Beverly Crusher, McCoy and Picard would be in love and kiss each other on the mouth, rather than the scripts being different. You are not smart enough for Star Trek.
Funny how B'elanna Torres was always harped on the abuse of the holodeck programs on Voyager... Meanwhile Geordi says: "Computer create a villain that cannot possibly be beaten unless it requires the Captain to enter the holodeck in a smart English suit!"
Given that the holodeck is stated to be (and can only be) the same dimensions of the room on the ship, how can any distance be involved? If "far" objects are just projections on the four walls of the holodeck, how can Pulaski be abducted and spirited away from Data's and Geordi's sight? How come Riker has to take a long walk to find Data in Encounter at Farpoint? How is it that Picard rides towards Data from the distance in Pen Pals? In fact how can anything happen on the Holodeck outside of the sight of the user? It's not a TARDIS.
I am assuming the holodeck takes into account of the position of each person and starts to maniplate a smaller area around them while keeping an overall saved image of the scene layout. So when pulaski is adducted, as she 'moves' further away the holodeck area around her percetion is adapted-think of it like dozens of small 'loading zones' that are removed or added based on where the computer reads each crewmember is standing in the scene-so if an ally connects the main street and a building but no one in a area you can see it, the computer does not load that part until it reads someone entering the 'load' area of the ally. An with the speed of trek computers, assuming following RL growth law-the load would be unnoticeable to those inside when function properly.
They conveniently scoot around this obviously logical issue by saying "and it tricks your mind in other ways." My favorite edition of the holoroom idea is Rick and Morty where basically they're on an omnidirectional treadmill that generates moveable voxels (3d pixels)
I’ve wondered: So how many copies of the Sherlock Holmes set of programs are there in the Federation? Or the Galaxy? It didn’t occur to me as a kid (pre-Internet, pre-smartphone) that this would be an app. But now? I’m wondering how many copies are out there on Federation starships or Holosuites like Quark’s. And how many (non-sentient) copies of Moriarty are out there?
Arg! I REALLY want the scene where Data solves the side case and then says "Come, Watson! This has nothing to do with our case!" I haven't been able to find it on RU-vid yet... >_
2:38 Geordi is using voice text prompts, simular to Stable Diffusion. Holodecks are just very advanced Ai art generators that use holograms, replicator matter.
This doesn't show it, but I believe right after Geordi finished with the computer Worf noticed a power drain to the holo-deck. I assume this was the computer using a large amount of power as this is what would be required to create a sentient hologram program.
I *really* hope they tore apart the programming to find out how that happened and prevent it from ever happening again. If it can create sentient beings then it's creating slaves and treating people like objects that can be destroyed at will. (Riker; not Weaton).
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"The game is afoot! Come, Watson!" "Arch!" Computer: "Do you wish to access any commands?" Professor Moriarty: "Not at this time." Geordi La Forge, realizing too late that he DID create a worthy opponent capable of defeating Data, placed the Enterprise in grave danger! Brilliant episode, though. Right up there with "The Big Goodbye," "Emergence," and "A Matter of Perspective."
in the star trek universe: data and forge are real people, what they show are just fake holograms in reality: data and forge are just fictional characters, and the people around them are real human beings.
Can anyone solve a mystery based on information they did not previously have? Inspiration comes from other's work. Creativity comes from experience. Deduction is based on facts. It's impossible to solve a mystery based on anything but previous knowledge and experience. A good detective is able to make connections that an undeveloped detective can't, and will take further leaps than most people are comfortable with, but they are still leaping from somewhere.
Pulaski is such an underappreciated character IMO. Take her out of S2 and you have a cast of characters hardly ever conflicting or even disagreeing strongly with one another.
She was annoying(the character, I got nothing against the actress obviously), she was a forced attempt to resemble McCoy's character and it just came out annoying, even here at 1:27 is a good example on how they tried to make her relationship with Data similar to the love hate relationship McCoy and Spock had.
Imagine a point and click game, except everything is so realistic that it's impossible to distinguish relevant and non-relevant information. That is what this holodeck Sherlock Holmes story is, and it would have pretty shitty UX.
