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Data Daybreak Town explained: Why UX repeats X • Kingdom Hearts Analysis 

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Video transcript • drive.google.com/file/d/1KFDa...
0:00 • Shedding Starlight and spoilers
1:06 • Opening
1:37 • Daybreak Town vs Disney Worlds
2:42 • Data worlds and projections
4:40 • Keyblade Graveyard in UX
5:55 • Worldlines
7:07 • Unchained X compared to X
13:02 • The Foretellers "retiring"
14:03 • Summary
SPECIAL THANKS 💕✨
Everglow, online KHUX footage • / everglow8444
GOLDPANNER, Japanese translations • / _kh_english
KHBoomer, instrument removal in music • / @milesmods
AlphaOblivion7, chirithy theory • / 1511450506920484866
weirdoonthebus, sound FXs • / 1306688285658488839
SHEDDING STARLIGHT 🌠✨ Your guide to the Kingdom Hearts mythos, coming January 22nd!
• podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
• open.spotify.com/show/2HwVMux...
• / @sheddingstarlight
Hannah's twitter • @hanmckinley
X-Position playlist • • χ-Position
Previous X/UX playlist • • UX / Foretellers

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@TheSecretReports
@TheSecretReports 6 месяцев назад
Technically 2 videos in 2023... right? right??? 😭 I worked on this video aaalll month to get it out before new year's. Now if you excuse me... I'm going to play Re:Coded in bed 🛌 *Shedding Starlight* is a KH podcast that's newcomer friendly! We'll start with discussing KH1, no spoilers of later titles, and work our way through! Coming *January 22nd* ! Links in description!
@darktheg.o.d5541
@darktheg.o.d5541 6 месяцев назад
Good work hope you're having fun👍🏾
@PhantasieTranslate
@PhantasieTranslate 6 месяцев назад
Maaaaan, right on my birthday! Great to know
@WarriorKid_77
@WarriorKid_77 6 месяцев назад
Re:Coded is criminally underrated.
@temetyly
@temetyly 6 месяцев назад
Looking forward to the pod! Hope things have been well forya 💃
@skistorm739
@skistorm739 6 месяцев назад
Question the original world before the world split not shatter but unreality
@TrueBlur
@TrueBlur 6 месяцев назад
WE ARE SO BACK LET’S GOOOOOOO LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PODCAST!
@damo
@damo 6 месяцев назад
Incredible visuals and editing as always, a pure delight for the behold :) I'm not sure how any conclusion apart from the one you have drawn can even hold any water. As soon as the foretellers arrive in Daybreak Town's tower, the foretellers even discuss these exact events. Lauriam's line in particular should remove all doubt, unless the new Union Leaders are somehow being fooled here: KHUx [Devourer of Nightmares] Ephemer: Then it’s settled. Oh, and to avoid any confusion or chaos, let’s not say a word about the foretellers to anyone just yet. Lauriam: That’s wise. As planned, all the Keyblade wielders are undergoing their training again. It may be a good time to discuss the issue when that’s over with.
@TheSecretReports
@TheSecretReports 6 месяцев назад
Ah yeah that’s a great scene to reference too, I forgot they talk about that! I should have included it, nuts haha!
@kingdomchains
@kingdomchains 6 месяцев назад
I finished the video earlier but I've watched it twice and realized I forgot to leave my thoughts! - I absolutely love the way the Cavern of Remembrance theme was used throughout the video transitioning between the KH2 and KH3 ReMIND versions - Every cutscene being sourced in the window box text is really cool, your graphics never miss - I also appreciate when you label things as hypothetical, comment, etc. It really helps! - CANNOT WAIT FOR THE PODCAST!! - I've always wondered about daybreak town's events repeating because of Ephemer's line that you mentioned but knowing that it's a bit more on the nose in the JP version of the game makes me feel relief - The glitches were something I was initially confused about, so this helped! 10/10
@TheSecretReports
@TheSecretReports 6 месяцев назад
thank you for all this !! 💗💖💕
@GreenRequiem
@GreenRequiem 6 месяцев назад
I LOVED hearing the ramping up between the different "Cavern of Remembrance" versions, slowly evolving the track up to the "complete" 2.5 version during the summary page!! All these custom assets and animations (the saccades and blinking of the Skuld&Ephemer artwork) made _my_ eyes widen. Such a cool concept for this video to have it be like accessing the Master's computer
@LazerzZ
@LazerzZ 6 месяцев назад
Yet another banger, well worth the wait for videos like this, you're an absolute wizard with this stuff! looking forward to the pod too, just the thing I need to ease me back into KH after some time away.
@LanzTheMaster
@LanzTheMaster 6 месяцев назад
S tier editing per usual, I'm SO edited for the new podcast!
@X_Nexus
@X_Nexus 6 месяцев назад
I really admire you taking the time to make a beautifully edited video that explains the lore of one of my favorite Kingdom Hearts sagas. The lore behind Daybreak Town confused me a little upon keeping up with Union X, so this video is much appreciated! Also I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees KH being in 1 timeline. I can’t wait to see your future video on it since I feel that the KH timeline is like watching a time travel movie in real time. Events can be altered in the movie’s plot, but we the audience still saw the previous events in the same movie.
@TheSecretReports
@TheSecretReports 6 месяцев назад
Yes wow, I definitely think your movie example perfectly matches the time-repeat shenanigan of KH3!
@usb061
@usb061 6 месяцев назад
I love these videos because they are so well edited and really deep dive into speculation over Kingdom Hearts lore, and you *know* Nomura is gonna reveal this is way less complicated than we think it is
@TheSecretReports
@TheSecretReports 6 месяцев назад
You do realize like 80% of whats in this video is supported by dialogue already in the game, right ?
@gearvanguard
@gearvanguard 6 месяцев назад
What a wonderful video! Thank you so much for making these, there are just so many things that go over my head, so having it be explained so well with beautiful visuals makes me feel very spoilt. I always feel obligated to watch your videos twice; once to learn something new and the second to appreciate all the visual components (this might even be my favourite aesthetic you've done, it's so charming and cute!) And you have no idea how excited I am for the podcast!!! This is like a dream of mine especially for a series as long running as KH, which I know for a fact I've missed and misinterpreted many details over the years. I hope everything goes smoothly and I'll be anticipating it with great excitement!
@TheSeaBase
@TheSeaBase 6 месяцев назад
Great a podcast as we get into the even more complex new era of KH LETS GOOOO
@Maniacmike1024
@Maniacmike1024 6 месяцев назад
I am 2 minutes in and I absolutely LOVE this editing style as well as how the information is passed along. This is a great job! Keep up the great work. Look forward to more!
@darktheg.o.d5541
@darktheg.o.d5541 6 месяцев назад
Ahhhh a random secrect report appeared!!!!!!!
@ultimateshadeofwar
@ultimateshadeofwar 6 месяцев назад
Like always this has been a very interesting video, thank you so much for your hard work just to entertain us, i hope you and everyone in the comment section has a great end and beginning of the year, and that you podcast is successful, i know that i will be paying attention to when you upload your first one
@angelrios5821
@angelrios5821 6 месяцев назад
So glad to see you back. Been a fan of KH since KH1 dropped all those years ago. All I'll say is this: if all of this really has been Nomura and/or Masaru Oka's intentions for the story of KH/KHX, then I'm glad they have a third person on board now (Akiko Ishibashi). Following the X story the last 10 years has been very frustrating for me, and maybe I'm not big-brained for not understanding it, but I'm so thankful for fans such as yourself for putting in so much effort into helping the community piece together the lore and make sense of it all. My gripe is, I truly feel it shouldn't have to be this way. Having to rely on videos such as these is a very real fault on the writers' part, in my opinion. I'm worried that, when KH4 rolls around, I will be expected to know and understand all of these complicated concepts the X saga introduced, all while mixing together the other cans of worms involving Yozora, the Nameless Star, "Unreality", and Missing Link. At least to me, the story has become so convoluted that I'm hoping a third writer can serve to either mediate the ideas being tossed around by the other two, or at least provide a method of communicating those ideas in a simpler way for the players. Mini-rant done, sorry if this comment seems inappropriate. I always look forward to your videos, because they're and so eye-opening, but this one definitely sparked these thoughts I've held on to for a while.
@TheSecretReports
@TheSecretReports 6 месяцев назад
Yeah I can absolutely understand this. It feels like fans have to learn all this information *not* because its what they signed up for, but because its the only way to not fall behind...
@WarriorKid_77
@WarriorKid_77 6 месяцев назад
LETS GO YOU'RE BACK! Another awesome theory, I really love how you made the whole video seem like a computer!
@SonnyNovus
@SonnyNovus 6 месяцев назад
I'm gonna be slurpin on Shedding Starlight with a soup spoon... just wanna point that out right off the bat. Like, fuck, I'm genuinely really intrigued and excited about that! So Mel, naturally your use of colours, graphic transitions and sound effects do wonders for the pacing. Everything is compiled so eloquently. I imagine setting out to make the computer desktop theme would force most people to be overtly flashy or "sci-fi", but this just feels warm on the eyes and ears. It flows so seamlessly to the point where they don't even FEEL like transitions, just a tightly knit package (even though the folder clicking idea is YES). Everything is congruent and visually compelling, but it's laid out in such a way that every word and every graphic is always at the front of my mind; nothing really needs to be overly digested, paused or questioned to nauseum, so it's only a testament to your script writing, commentary skills, expression and research. It's not just "good", but it strikes a balance between artistically stimulating but also EASY! Spinning those plates together without going down a rabbit hole of caveats or playing devil's advocate every 5 seconds in the attempt to circumvent those UMM ACTUALLY comments ain't a simple thing to accomplish. Refreshing. No bullshit, just "Here it is, here's why it is the way that it is, here are the receipts, now eat your damn feast". Even though I was always under the impression that UXs real Daybreak Town glitching was due to the projection of the data version, but I never once caught on to the Twilight Town tidbit from KH2! It just adds so much credence to that. I wonder if that kind of technology will overlap in the future? I keep forgetting how Twilight Town's basement and use of the Datascape could give us a peak into so much, from Daybreak Town and Scala's history to even how other worldlines work. I still personally believe that there is some sort of convergence between realities happening with the Datascape. I wanna take a moment to appreciate talking about Luxu's comment about data Daybreak Town not just being a regular Datascape world, but actually an entirely other worldline with no Keyblade war. It seems the ultimate wrench in the works of a lot of KH fan's minds are between those of us who are willing to accept Luxu's reports as vital pieces of information as opposed to those who would rather side with the notion that they are "lies"(?), retcons or just wrong. Also, coming off of the honeymoon phase of my latest video, your Brain imposter scares me a little more each day. That kid scares me I don't like it. idk something is so creepy about another version of you running around with higher knowledge and then just vanishes?? fuck these kids tbh
@TheSecretReports
@TheSecretReports 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for everything Sonny!! 😭❤ Eventually I'd love to make a video about Space Paranoids or the Grid, so I was definitely thinking "hmmm how can I make this computer-y without looking too Tron-like?" so I'm glad it payed off!! And with script writing, sometimes I've stared at it for so long I can no longer tell if its really nailing what I want to say, so I'm glad to hear it is! Your opinion means a lot to me because I think we have very similar mindsets, so thank you!! And YES your last video really emphasizes what a strange and weird mystery shrouds Brain! It doesn't help that when he's first introduced, his face is covered by his hat haha. Sus from the start...
@ealain7600
@ealain7600 6 месяцев назад
I love your vids so much, I just wish we'd see them a bit more often ❤
@matteo.cannizzo
@matteo.cannizzo 6 месяцев назад
this is the best xmas present of this year thank you
@DarknessInZero
@DarknessInZero 6 месяцев назад
I'll definitely be listening to that podcast when its out! 🌟
@crystals4ever
@crystals4ever 4 месяца назад
First time clicking on a video and just wanted to say that the graphics and editing is amazing
@meetmulti
@meetmulti 6 месяцев назад
YESSS! BEEN LOOKING FORWARD FOR A NEW VIDEO🎉🎉🎉🎉
@AlphaOblivion7
@AlphaOblivion7 6 месяцев назад
WOAH! I did *not* expect to see myself get a shoutout in this video! Thanks so much! I've been a big fan of your work for a long time, so I'm glad that I was able to contribute in some way.
@TheSecretReports
@TheSecretReports 6 месяцев назад
Of course!! You had a great point!
@charlieotoole5343
@charlieotoole5343 6 месяцев назад
Absolutely obsessed with the smooth transition between 2 and 3's Cavern of remembrance ost and your brilliant editing skills. I hope you will discuss worldlines soon as it really bothers me how a lot of fans think KH3 took place in another wordline after the keyblade graveyard incident, the Singularity Sora created is dispelled once he saves his friends' hearts and re-starts from when they first lost their battle. I'm also definitely with you how the term worldlines is strictly referred to reality and unreality and not how there is some kind of multiverse going on.
@zotheghost
@zotheghost 6 месяцев назад
ooo really excited for yalls podcast! and of course grateful for another video!
@TalysAlankil
@TalysAlankil 5 месяцев назад
the idea that the keyblade war from KHUX is a flasback and not part of the story repeat is pretty much confirmed by the game; that's why those quests were put under event and not story quests
@MagicDarkIight
@MagicDarkIight 6 месяцев назад
As usual your videos are too good! So happy to see more of them, great points and it's the first time I see a perfectly reasonable explanation on the Data-like glitches in the real world Daybeak town during the UX ending, completely overlooked this scene from KH2. Excited to see more to come! Happy new year o/
@vincentlorusso689
@vincentlorusso689 6 месяцев назад
I can't wait for this podcast! I really need to refresh myself on ancient KH lore.
@darkhawk155
@darkhawk155 6 месяцев назад
Can't wait for the podcast! Just need to fight with my podcast app to get it to recognize the iTunes link (happens everytime)
@IsaacThePanduh
@IsaacThePanduh 6 месяцев назад
The dedication and editing of this video is so freakin good. I eat this content up! Great work!!
@BRUIN1821
@BRUIN1821 6 месяцев назад
So happy to see uploads from you again, in your Keyblade war video you had really good ideas & talk about such cool theories & topics
@Flynn327
@Flynn327 6 месяцев назад
Another stellar video! Your visuals and editing never cease to amaze. Looking forward to Shedding Starlight! Instant subscribe from me! Very curious to hear your thoughts/explanation of Wreck-It Ralph's world. I never could figure out how that world appeared to exist in Union X's present day (and not data) rather than the future like all other Disney worlds, especially after information from Dark Road talking about how the worlds took time to rebuild themselves.
@Salikino
@Salikino 6 месяцев назад
So awesome to see you back!!
@MarKreationsStudios
@MarKreationsStudios 6 месяцев назад
Great video! Happy to see you back!
@majiecorleon3454
@majiecorleon3454 6 месяцев назад
Cool good way to end the year missed your content tbh 🎉
@skrroksa2776
@skrroksa2776 6 месяцев назад
Hi! Thank you for video, I'm sure this should help a lot the community to understand some points :) I love espacially the editing and your voice, which are fluid and understandable easily !!
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 6 месяцев назад
Very interesting & clarifying! Thanks once again! & happy new year!
@Andrew-wl3hn
@Andrew-wl3hn 6 месяцев назад
Another fantastic and beautifully crafted video, Mel! i can't wait to see what 2024 has in store for your channel!
@yamatohikaru5453
@yamatohikaru5453 6 месяцев назад
I’m so happy I subscribed to you! I saw one of your videos and wondered when another video would come out!
@jeanvalero1597
@jeanvalero1597 6 месяцев назад
Your videos are soo goooood!
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 6 месяцев назад
Super excited for this analysis video! Thanks for uploading! Might comment more later!
@dtencho1
@dtencho1 6 месяцев назад
You're back! I'm so happy to see you here!
@PhantasieTranslate
@PhantasieTranslate 6 месяцев назад
Uhhh, it's not everyday we have a new TheSecretReports video! So, like and comment even before seeing is a must
@Zexion88
@Zexion88 6 месяцев назад
AMAZING JOB! Thanks! I really appreciate it.
@liamfitzgerald1400
@liamfitzgerald1400 6 месяцев назад
Oh goodness.... this actually cleared up something I've been wondering about since the Union Cross finale came out. I feel like a fog has been lifted!
@TalysAlankil
@TalysAlankil 5 месяцев назад
the keyblade war scenes fromKHUX are definitely flashbacks and not part of the repeated story. That's why they weren't put under story quests but event quests.
@NoirLilbomber
@NoirLilbomber 6 месяцев назад
Good to see more content from you Mel
@meetmulti
@meetmulti 6 месяцев назад
The editing is peak
@lemonke4180
@lemonke4180 6 месяцев назад
I'm so happy that you are back
@tallnerdgirl
@tallnerdgirl 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for the video! There were definitely aspects of the data worlds that went over my head!
@TheSecretReports
@TheSecretReports 6 месяцев назад
Glad I could help!!
@crazystart8581
@crazystart8581 6 месяцев назад
Wow the editing in this video is top tier!
@RainingMountains
@RainingMountains 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for all the work you're doing with these videos!! As much as I love and adore UX and its story, there are multiple places where things can unfortunately get a bit confusing ;O; So these explanations really help with understanding the exact pieces of lore + offer a new angle to things I hadn't considered before! I wonder if the bit about "memories VS projection" will be more fully addressed in Missing Link, with the idea of unreality or such. I think both options answer questions that the other solution can't, but I do agree with you though that ultimately, at the moment anyways, it doesn't seem to matter which is "right"
@TheSecretReports
@TheSecretReports 6 месяцев назад
I have my suspicions (or hopes lol) that ML will answer SOME questions about KHUX, given that ML has both Brain and Player (sorta lol) two characters with a lot of unanswered questions about, so having this too cleared up once and for all would be nice for closure and to just leave all this behind haha!
@skistorm739
@skistorm739 6 месяцев назад
​@TheSecretReports if the real world our world exist, when reality/unreality split the true orginal didn't wander to split but 90% of true orginal world stayed
@skistorm739
@skistorm739 6 месяцев назад
It's like orginal world timeline messing parts and split worlds are most a blank slate not connected to lorcana has no connection and lacks a world ❤️
@socialistbcrumb
@socialistbcrumb 6 месяцев назад
Kudos for keeping all this straight and making such a well-edited video. Wish I could find myself more interested/invested in the phone game/X stuff but I'm sure KH4 is going to help (and also make clear what the most necessary info and story beats are).
@LSMasta
@LSMasta 6 месяцев назад
Don't mind me. Just here enjoying this delicious video and taking notes for when I get back into making Kingdom Hearts content
@SoraSki420
@SoraSki420 6 месяцев назад
She’s back! And she brought a friend 🎉
@AlyxDps
@AlyxDps 6 месяцев назад
Your videos are always so well put together, its impressive Honestly I've never been part of the 'Kingdom hearts is overcomplicated' meme, but everything that happens in the timeline before Dark Road involves way too many moving parts. Nomura needs to reel in the number states of being imo. Realms of Light/Darkness/Between/Data/Winnie the Pooh's book/Unreality/Dreams Also are you saying that the Kh: unchained version of the universe is literally an AR layer on top of the normal, standard one world with basically chatgpt filling in all the characters who died in the war? Like not a Tron-style physical space inside a computer? If that applies to Twilight Town as well, what does that mean for Coded? What about Riku? They put bugs in him!
@TopTwom
@TopTwom 6 месяцев назад
Kingdom Hearts: Production Value, uploads once again. Looking forward to the podcast
@inxine
@inxine 6 месяцев назад
lets say you are spot on, lets say this is 100% the case no ones gonna get this, right. this is so deep under the surface of those mobile games that Nomura wouldnt be able to use it (altough im sure he would). the issue im having, is that this is an actual thing. that this story even exists and that it might even what drives forward the MoM saga right. i dont even wanna think about what this means for kh4. whenever that game comes out. or even the Missing Link mobile game, cause one was not enough ha. its just mind boggling. the whole thing ha.
@isabelstoker2063
@isabelstoker2063 6 месяцев назад
YAY A NEW VIDEO 🎉🥳
@xrubyxlightx
@xrubyxlightx 6 месяцев назад
Informative and very Aesthetic. A great refresher
@fireorb2
@fireorb2 6 месяцев назад
This video was very informative. KH likes to be very complex and doesn't like to take the time to explain its concepts. Really appreciate the heart put in this video.
@LinkingYellow
@LinkingYellow 6 месяцев назад
This is incredibly well done
@lbstiger
@lbstiger 6 месяцев назад
I absolutely love your videos
@ZeroN1neZero
@ZeroN1neZero 6 месяцев назад
what a breath of fresh air for the new year.
@nachtflugel3947
@nachtflugel3947 6 месяцев назад
I love this explanation of Worldlines, it makes the most sense❤
@gracekim25
@gracekim25 6 месяцев назад
Oooo this sounds like a fun idea :D
@acquire8658
@acquire8658 6 месяцев назад
Omg just in time for 2023❤❤❤. Seriously even with these videos and keeping up with the lore, this is complicated AF.
@Rikumustang
@Rikumustang 6 месяцев назад
great video !
@TheEclipsedLock
@TheEclipsedLock 6 месяцев назад
Lets gooooo a new secret reports video ꓷ:
@ToMaSsS10
@ToMaSsS10 5 месяцев назад
How is your editing so good
@theseculargamer3339
@theseculargamer3339 6 месяцев назад
Love your style and well-researched approach to your videos. No offense to other KH content creators, but they tend to feel very click-baity and overly use face cams for news and theories (and the editing can be sub-par). This video is the standard I set for anyone creating KH content and theories. Keep up the great work! You have a consistent viewer here. :)
@johanstenfelt1206
@johanstenfelt1206 6 месяцев назад
Hm, I see, interesting, very well done, you did good covering this, this seems very likely, i will look forward to what you cover next, sounds interesting already. …i wonder if Missing Link will confirm anything about this?
@Cablecross236
@Cablecross236 6 месяцев назад
amazing editing
@ultimateshadeofwar
@ultimateshadeofwar 6 месяцев назад
Around 3:57 It would also explain how Mickey Donald and Goofy, didn't realize they were digitalize in Coded... A lot of people forget about this game, i didn't, because it gave the very important hint of *DATA CAN HAVE HEARTS...* Totally didn't or won't matter in the future.
@maryscary
@maryscary 6 месяцев назад
This video showed up in my feed right when I was asking myself these exact questions. Coincidence? I think not:)
@thegummiphone
@thegummiphone 6 месяцев назад
Splendid video as always. So. Enchanted Dominion and Castle of Dreams were only put in the Data-World as Darkness shows us. And supposedly Strelitzia’s murder happens during the real events. However, Strelitzia’s flashbacks of Player shows that she encountered them in Castle of Dreams. What do you make of this?
@TheSecretReports
@TheSecretReports 6 месяцев назад
Oh wow you're right, she's definitely trying on the glass slipper when Player walks by! As of RIGHT NOW, I personally think it's just a mistake. However, I'm overall open minded to the idea that more projections existed during the time of X then was being let on! I've always thought the theory that Hollow Bastion was a secret projection during X (since it shows up in the Book of Prophecies in the beginning of X) to be a fun one. And there's Traverse Town art among the many map screenshots in the control room. As for the other possibility that Strelitzia died the war in the data worlds, I'm more hesitant to believe, since Lauriam looked for her everywhere, and the time of her death (that we know it to be, at least) lines up with Ventus, Gula with Skuld and Player, and Ava with Luxu too well.
@thegummiphone
@thegummiphone 6 месяцев назад
@@TheSecretReports Ohh yeah! There is the certain implication that Radiant Garden was left out. Since 6 worlds do contain princesses but the 7th was left out so Maleficent wouldn’t know how that story plays out. Which is wierd because it could refer to Olympus as the only world that doesn’t follow it’s movie structure- and despite not having a Princess, Kairi is definitely meant to be a representation of Megara. Even more so interesting that with Radiant Garden having so much interference- if it had play out as an isolated world without alien intervention, then how would Kairi have grown up? Lea, Isa, and the Scientists. All of it would be very different. I have been also looking at the mismatch with Strelitzia here as a mistake, but honest some things are wayyyy too uncanny for mistakes like her trying on the Glass Slipper to just… slip through. I think we’re def on the same page about it. My only thought is that UX is the 3rd repeat instead of a 2nd. I’m not sure entirely but the idea jives with how the “real” Daybreak Town seemed to also have a glitching anomaly as it was being torn asunder.
@sakito1905
@sakito1905 6 месяцев назад
I know I'm gonna state the obvious but I really like these videos not only because every topic is thorougly resourced but cause they are so satisfying to watch! Really excited for your future projects! Talking about the topics of this video... I'm really sorry for the inevitable long ass comment: 1) I get the reasoning on why Keyblade Graveyard should be a data world (after all Re:Mind confirms that Scala IS Daybreak Town and Dark Road confirms KG is not in Scala but another world itself), but to me something is off. I mean, what was the point on creating that specific world? No one goes there to collect Lux. Was it recreated intentionally to trick Union Leaders in thinking they were "free" to leave the datascape when in reality they were always in the data one (as discussed in "The Cause of it All" cutscene)? If Keyblade Graveyard was a digital copy, shouldn't they know it once tampering in the Control Room? That would be enough for Brain to realize that they were tricked, but he starts to think the Dandelions are trapped only after the appearance of the glitches. To further my point, I wanted to add that, if I'm not wrong, there's not a monitor showing Keyblade Graveyard in Control Room but to be honest it doesn't mean anything: we don't see every monitor and, of course, if it was a secret it wouldn't be shown because the Master knew that the Union Leaders, the same guys that had to be tricked, would have access to the Control Room. To sum it up: it's hard for me to believe that MoM recreated in an accessible part of the datascape the KG, as we see the Union Leaders meeting there, when the whole point of Unchained X was creating a "worldline" (your reasoning on this is so on point, never thought about that) where the war never happened. Isn't it possible (and easier) that the Kayblade Graveyard was severed from Daybreak Town after the destruction of the city in the ending of UX? 2) I never thougt about the possibility of data world appearing outside. We have always seen that to materialize/digitize something, it needs to be hit by those "data-lasers" (like the DiZ's Encoder ray that tried to digitize Xemnas' KH, or the ray you touch to travel from Data/Real Twilight Town in the mansion, or the machine/factory in Hollow Bastion that makes Sora and the Heartless travel in/out Space Paranoids). So when you say that data worlds can be projected outside the datascape overlapping the real place I don't get why Brain thought that the Dandelions needed to access Disney worlds traveling from Daybreak Town to Data Daybreak Town to the world of choice (but of course it could be a wrong idea because they always were in the digital one), or how DiZ could pull up something like that with Twilight Town. On this topic I'm really not so sure, but I can't say you're wrong cause I can't explain what your theory brilliantly can with that scene in KH2 that never made any sense where Chip could see Data Twilight Town with bare eyes. It could even explain what's happening on Toy Box with all that "the world is split in two". 3) I'm so happy you touched the subject on Lauriam talking about data of people and Shift Pride: to me, it's the thing the confused me the most in Union X ending. In the video that they didn't know talking with data recreated people could be a choice and that Lauriam was the most confused about this in the ending because he was not present during the meeting about Shift Pride. It makes a lot of sense if Imposter Brain really "coded" alone Shift Pride (I really hope they will ever come back on fake Brain, maybe confirming it was the personification of the Datascape like Data Riku in Re:coded but I fear we will never see of this thing again in the future...). What puzzles me is that the whole point of recreated data people to me came directly from Lauriam: in Quest 846 (Shift Pride meeting) Ephermer tells the others that the idea came from Lauriam himself and then we see a flashback where Lauriam says "Once the Keyblade War ended, the world were recreated in data with people in them. I'm looking for someone who was supposed to have becamo a Dandelion but I haven't seen them anywhere. So I thougt I'd search the data.". In the ending of UX Lauriam says: "I thought this place was just a copy of the world, not its people. Besides, if everyone's data was brought over, shouldn't there be versions of us too?". So Lauriam already knew about recreated data people BEFORE Shift Pride and then he suddenly don't. In other words: "Lauriam" suggest Ephemer that there are recreated data people; Ephemer talks about with the leaders in the meeting (without Lauriam) and "Fake Brain" goes all "Wow! Great idea Ephemer! Never thought about that!". Then Lauriam shows up and doesn't know anything about it. Isn' it... weird? So I'm starting to think... if really there was someone/something that impersonated Brain... What if they impersonated Lauriam too in the scene giving Ephemer the idea of Shift Pride?
@TheSecretReports
@TheSecretReports 6 месяцев назад
Hi Sakito! These are some really great interesting thoughts! 1 a) With you asking what was the point of creating the Keyblade Graveyard as a data world: One subject I’d like to discuss in X-Position is the relationship with the Master of Masters and Nightmare Chirithy. In the original X when Player is knocked out by Aced after their fight (the UX repeat diverges before this), Player gets a dream of KH3’s Keyblade War (cutscene: A Vision). N. Chirithy tried to do *something* to Player earlier (cutscene: The Dream), so I wonder if it was N. Chirithy who gave Player this dream, and was able to do so because of the Master. N. Chirithy later mentions the Master meant for it to be created (cutscene: Nightmares Projected). If the MoM was able to “share” this vision of the future Graveyard with N. Chirithy, maybe that’s somehow connected to this data projection of the Graveyard ? I don’t know how or why those two things would be connected yet, but as for now, I’m getting an inkling that they could be. 1 b) As for why the Graveyard’s not visible on the monitors, I have a suspicion about this too, but unfortunately it’s involved with the Impostor Brain theory and that’s still not confirmed haha. But when Brain, Ephemer, and Skuld are interrogating Ven on the hill, at one point Ven talks about how Ava told Ven to join the other Union Leaders after everything was over. And Brain goes “Yeah I remember you saying that when we first met.” BUT, Brain wasn’t there yet at the Graveyard when Ventus said that- it was only Ven, Ephemer, and Skuld at that point. So I’m wondering if maybe while the impostor Brain was walking around, making his way to the Graveyard, the real Brain was always in the Control Room eavesdropping (because according to the theory, that’s where we see the real Brain for the first time, in The Cause of it All). This would imply that the Graveyard IS being monitored in the control room after all. But alas, it’s all conjecture 😩 There’s also still the mystery of why Brain didn’t catch on to how they were *always* in the data world, but I wonder if the impostor Brain just straight up fed him lies/false information? 2) Yeah it’s definitely weird to think about data being able to be tangible in the real world after all the scanning/digitizing we’ve seen. The only other examples I can think of when it comes to data having a tangible form are the various objects from data Twilight Town that made it out into the real world: Olette’s money bag she made herself, the photo of the gang with Roxas, and the blue marble from the trophy. They’re objects that characters were able to touch and hold, even though they’re technically data. And there’s also Coded, where Mickey and the others were brought into the data of Jiminy’s Journal without realizing it. Maybe the Dandelions ending up in the data worlds without realizing is the culmination of these types of digital phenomena ? 3) Wow that’s actually… a REALLY good point!!! I wonder if the real Lauriam would have went to that Shift Pride meeting, if he would have been like “Uhhhh Ephemer? I never said that… I never even knew about the data…..” It would also explain where this impostor Brain went! If this impostor was trying to find Strelitzia’s data, they could have disguised themself as Lauriam to make it less weird that they’re looking for her. And at the meeting, this same impostor could have purposely said “Well, Lauriam said it was a personal matter, so let’s leave it alone.” to prevent the Union Leaders from investigating too much! It even might connect back to Elrena’s Chirithy spotting a black coat with what looked to be Stretlizia’s data! It might be that SAME impostor who was Lauriam! They might realize now that all the Union Leaders are together, so disguising as one of them is too obvious or risky. Ugh this is such a gooood point you made. Is it OK if I bring it up in my future video revisiting this impostor theory ? I’ll definitely credit you! It probably won’t be the NEXT video I make, but still an inevitable one for X-Position.
@sakito1905
@sakito1905 6 месяцев назад
@@TheSecretReports When I post something here it's usually after giving it some extra thought 'cause for me, this is one of the few, if not the only, place to talk seriously about KH, so feel free to use anything you find interesting! And if you want to credit me in the future, it would be great 😄 But please don't feel forced, knowing that I'm contributing a little bit to the channel is enough, really! Back to your points, what you say about the MoM and the Nightmare Chirithy is interesting, I need to research more on that. But the point that is convincing me is that it could explain why Brain knew what Ventus said in the Keyblade Graveyard, if there really is an Impostor Union Leader... I don't particularly like to resort to a fake Lauriam to explain those scenes, given how, as you said, the fake Brain is all but confirmed. IF it is true, that would make the most sense... thing is, I find so hard beliving the series would go back to a blink-and-miss detail of a dead mobile game. But there are a lot of other things that instead I think will be addressed, like the nature of Game Central Station, given its hinted connection to the "fictional world"/Unreality, so maybe going back to some Union X plot point is really planned. Lastly, on data worlds, I was probably wrong in thinking that only "data-rays" (and similar energy) can materialize/digitize things. Of course Riku could have used the computer in the Old Mansion to enter/exit data Twilight Town (and with him the picture, the munny bag and the marble) but we know that Dark Corridors can be opened to/in a Data World (we used them to reach The World that Never Was) and Maleficent used one to meet Pete in the Datascape. So it would be possible to hipotetically bring a digital object outside a Data World just using a Corridor? Would it help to explain in some way the two Twilight Town overlapping in KH2? Probably not, so the external data-projection remains the safest bet.
@OhNoBohNo
@OhNoBohNo 6 месяцев назад
I can't say any of it is simple, but the horror implications and technical connections of this whole part of Union are somehow still Elegant to me How long could you live in a 'nearly-perfect', holographic double of your world before you realized something was wrong? And, of course the world of 'Wreck-It Ralph', being a world about the connection between the digitally-created world and the real one, would be the potential escape from the data Daybreak Town to the real one. But what would happen?- You need certain components to go forward in time. Would the Dandelions trying to escape thru Wrech-It Ralph world simply not work? Or, does this imply somewhere out in The Age of Fairytales is a fairytale that starts "Once upon a time in Los Aburridos, California..."???
@temetyly
@temetyly 6 месяцев назад
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@hansraute3587
@hansraute3587 6 месяцев назад
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@austendunavant8560
@austendunavant8560 4 месяца назад
Rewatching, Great vid as always! Big question about the X timeline though. Player gets Keyblade 2 years pass… (per Strelitzia flashback) Keyblade War then X is repeated and Union X occurs. Do at least another 2 years pass as the recording plays? Do the Dandelions experience those 2 years as well? How do the Dandelions age? If they forgot all of X and relived it at the same rate, wouldn’t they have seemingly aged 2 years instantly as of their first day in the new worldline? Alternatively, would they wake up 2 years younger than they were at the time of the Keyblade War to account for this? Master of Masters gives Foretellers their roles five years prior. Is this the same year Player received the Keyblade? If so, is it confirmed that the new events of KHUX take place over the course of a year? To give an example of how my brain is picturing the aging: Ventus is 16 in BBS (per Nomura) Ventus is 12 when given to Eraqus (per BBS’s ‘4 years prior’) Ventus is 11 when found by Xehanort (per DR placing it 1 year before bbs flashbacks) *Ventus is 11 in Union X* *Ventus is physically 10 in UX Year 2* *Ventus is physically 9 in UX Year 1* *Ventus is 10 in X Year 2* *Ventus is 9 in X Year 1* Is this a correct way to understand it? I’ve never heard anyone discuss it but it seems like a major point to me. Can you help me understand it?
@SuperLegendOf364
@SuperLegendOf364 6 месяцев назад
Looking forward to the Wreck-it Ralph world discussion. Never would I have thought that movie could be so important to the lore of Kingdom Hearts.
@Kaweebo
@Kaweebo 6 месяцев назад
What I wanna know is why Game Central Station spontaneously connected to data Daybreak Town seemingly through time?
@cadr003
@cadr003 6 месяцев назад
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@melodyloss
@melodyloss 6 месяцев назад
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@castle3267
@castle3267 6 месяцев назад
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@Jamie-tt3eb
@Jamie-tt3eb Месяц назад
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@Alfareon
@Alfareon 6 месяцев назад
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@Salthat
@Salthat 6 месяцев назад
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@RivedJargon
@RivedJargon 6 месяцев назад
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@KingTai64
@KingTai64 6 месяцев назад
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@UltimateDBZJAMES
@UltimateDBZJAMES 6 месяцев назад
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@BandedMetagrossMeteorMash
@BandedMetagrossMeteorMash 6 месяцев назад
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@CourtneyHartman-mm5zz
@CourtneyHartman-mm5zz 4 месяца назад
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@Recovery305
@Recovery305 6 месяцев назад
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@kairi4640
@kairi4640 6 месяцев назад
The simplest answer really is because everyone outside of Japan didn't officially get Chi. So Unchained X was just for our benefit. 😂 Everything else is just usual Nomura madness trying to make a story out of it like he did with Mickey not having clothes. 🤣 But I'll admit, that's what makes kh a funny thing to watch lol.
@maskedjack2746
@maskedjack2746 6 месяцев назад
Kingdom hearts content being recomended straight at launch? Weird youtube, but greatly appreciated
@danieltinsleykhvsff9622
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@marianojrivera8101
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