Luxu is INNOCENT: We Were LIED To 

Here's the secret, there is no traitor. MoM needed to sow the seeds of doubt/chaos amongst them to attract the true darknesses.

It is implied that during the cut to Guia and then back to Luxu and Ava, Luxu revealed what he thought he knew. Namely, that there was no traitor and that the Foretellers were Darkness Bait. Ava takes that poorly and attacks, but if Luxu had just observed and kept his mouth shut, the Bell wouldn't have tolled. You know, the thing the Traitor causes. Basically, Luxu doesn't believe the Master when he slips in their last conversation that he has a way to save the "sacrifices". He misread the Master's intentions, as the passage states. Further, The Master doesn't say their is no Traitor, he says mentioning a Traitor in the Book has purpose. I prepose The Master was talking in this way to obscure the fact that he is creating the Traitorous Luxu right at that point. He is getting Luxu and Us to assume their isn't a Traitor to make Luxu doubt. Planting the Seed. Thus, Luxu has that conversation with Ava and tells her incomplete information. The Truth he believes. But we see regularly, Kingdom Hearts' characters believe in Truths that are wrong all the time i.e. Nobody cannot grow Hearts and shouldn't exist. So, Luxu is the Seed of Mistaken Truth (Unintentional Lies) and acts accordingly. May your Heart be your guiding Key.

I've saying since THE BEGINNING,that you cant trust ANYTHING that the Master says.

While I don't necessarily disagree, I have to point something out. Part of Luxu's role was to not interfere, right? But... Isn't he interfering by telling Ava all of that? Also, what about when Luxu sends the True Dandelion away? Or talking to (and saving?) Brain? The way I've read the situation is that Luxu, by learning of the Master's true goals, started acting on his own but still otherwise fulfilling his role because... Well, it was written. Luxu seemed pretty disturbed by the Master's plan and because what he observes would be seen by the Master and end up in the book, there's only so much he could do without the Master being aware. Even one of the Darknesses accuses Luxu of interfering, and even though Luxu says that is only in regards to the Dandelions, is that actually what the Master said? Even so he seems to have saved Brain so how is that not interfering? Like, I think Ava is -A- traitor in the sense that after learning the truth she might have gone on to do her own thing but it seems like Luxu is guilty of the same.

Speaking of Ava going rogue, here's my favorite theory: Xigbar/Braig/Bragi isn't Luxu. *He's Brain.* We know Brain survived his encounter with Luxu, and that Luxu passed his No Name down to him after explaining some of the goings on, and we know that Brain decided he was going to be a "glitch" in the system and has read the Book of Prophecies. What if he and Ava worked together to trick the Master of Masters by making him *think* that Luxu was the traitor, when in reality Luxu simply did as he was told. I mean, just look at the names - Braig. Bragi. Brain. They're practically identical names! Ava is known for impersonating other Masters, and Luxu explained what his role was (and thus how the MoM knows what he knows) so it would make sense if she came up with this idea with Brain. (Speaking of Ava and her impersonations: did anyone else notice that Invi changed her color scheme at the end of KH3? She's usually blue, but in that scene her clothing changed... to pink.)

Yup, the Ava traitor idea was the prevailing theory until MoM literally called Luxu the traitor. And I mean…multiple things can be true at once. By giving Brain the book of prophecies, she disobeyed the MoM, and Luxu is the red herring

Wow. The master of masters is so peak as a villain. I can't wait to see him in action.

My heart became a heartless when it heard: " ava is the traitor " I need time to process and accept this.😓

I haven’t followed kingdom hearts lore in awhile but I thought it was common knowledge in the fandom that there was no traitor, the Master of Masters wanted to see what the foretellers would do if they thought it was one… let me know if I’m remembering this incorrectly

Ava being the traitor is honestly outright implied to me if there is one. Also while I agree that the foretellers are only about business, the MOM and luxu feel like the exception which is great imo

Ava is the true traitor. She is the only one who veered from her roll by changing one of the five members on the list of dandelions

ava is kairi's grandma and she was sowing the seed of light within kairi by her stories of the ancient times which worked .... i guess

What I don’t understand is what Gula tells Ava about the Lost Page, “It talks about “the one who bears the sigil.”” I come to mean that to be the Recusant Sigil, aka the “X” that Xemnas gives to the old Organization as well as on Sora’s clothes in DDD. Ava’s name doesn’t include an X, but Luxu’s does. If again that is meant to be a red herring, then that’s the end of it. But you mentioned that you think everything in the Book is truthful. So if that’s the case, how does the Recusant Sigil tie in to Ava?

I think Luxu is The Traitor, but specifically, he is betraying The Truce The Master of Masters and Darkness made in their Little Game. The End of the Game says Darkness is to Win the Game. So, The Master is setting up Luxu to run inference against this Truce Contract because Luxu thinks he knows better. By doing this, he stumbled right into what The Master wanted in the first place. He wanted Luxu's actions to create the Child of Destiny, the one who takes the Darkness Worldline away from Darkness. Luxu is how the Master of Masters "cheats". Luxu will make moves that, for example, allow Brain to survive. This allow Eraqus to exist, and meet Xehanort. Xehanort created the Child of Destiny through his villian arc. But Luxu will think he is doing these things of his own Will, and thus, the Darkness inside Luxu won't think the Master is Cheating.

I’m really interested in finding out the method that Luxu uses to inhabit bodies. Clearly it’s a method different than what we’ve seen before and it would seem a more perfect version of it. He doesn’t require his vessels fall to darkness and he doesn’t need a keyblade. It’s probably some form of lost magic or something.

The eye let’s the MoM see the future. He probably knows about something luxu will do in the future that will deem him a traitor

To the Question what makes Luxu a traitor. Weeeeeeeellll.... How about talking over his role. Fighting with Ava which is against his role. The thing that he has the X in the name mentioned on the traitor page. Or just the thing that naming him traitor makes it real that a traitor exists. The word itself is maybe meaningless for the master all he wanted is to describe Luxu in a vague way so that him making the actions "the traitor does" fulfill him as the traitor and brings the others to the conclusion there is someone betraying them.

THANK YOU.people have been calling me crazy for Years for saying THERE IS NO TRAITOR.

The foretellers were bonded to the master but not to each other

A Catalyst is something that causes a reaction without undergoing any changes or being directly affected by the change it causes. The traitor is still technically Luxu

Man I'm kind of split on the matter as I do feel like the master has lead both Luxu and Ava to become traitors in their own right. So far we know that Luxu, who despite not agreeing with the master's plan, decided to go through with his role, but he playing it loosely as he done things that were gray and questionable at best as he do stuff like sending the true Dandelion through the Ark, confronting the lingering darkness, and his deal with Brain, which we're still not sure on whether or not he possessed him or not. Regardless of the situation, I felt like he did break his role when it came to Brain as I found it weird that neither he or the Dandelion leader were present when Skuld and Ephemer came to the real world. Great video as always, can't wait for more to come :)

I actually do not believe Luxu or Ava is the traitor. I think the traitor is someone we are ALL very familiar with. Let's recap. The foretellers work hard to prevent the Keyblade War and due to distrust and conflicting roles end up destroying the world and all their unions by fighting in one, but the bit at the end of the book of prophecies was all about how darkness would prevail and light would expire, which does happen. But NOT in their time. It's the fight against Xehanort that that happens. Then Sora changes the timeline by abusing the Power of Waking. Now, Sora had been given the sigil in Dream Drop Distance so that Xehanort could keep track of him during the Mark of Mastery Exam. Sora abused the Power of Waking and changed the timeline, something that the Master of Masters seemed to take into account. Also, while doing so, Sora encountered an entity calling itself Darkness when he went into Ven's heart during this segment. I honestly believe that Darkness went from possessing Ventus to possessing Sora in this instance. The Master of Masters told Darkness that there was a realm beyond his imagination, where neither darkness nor light existed, not in the way it exists in the Kingdom Hearts universe. Sora, in Quadratum, a realm on the other side of reality, does not have darkness in it. Yet a darkseid forms in the trailer and Sora is fighting it while the Master watches. What if Sora brought Darkness to a realm where darkness had not existed before because Darkness possessed Sora. Sora, bearing the sigil, would be the traitor.

Luxu might be an awesome character to me cause luxu is like a messenger but also a watcher that monitors the foretellers an also sora with the master of masters

I like to think that MoM was being literal. Luxu is a traitor, not to everyone else but to the MoM himself. I doubt Luxu's body hopping has gone unnoticed by MoM, and given the fact that MoM has the eye on everything that has happened so far and effectively going to happen implies 2 things: 1. He knows exactly what everyone is going to do. 2. There is an END to the story/the No Name keyblade itself. So when MoM says Luxu is the "Traitor," he *could* be talking about being one to the Union leaders or he could be referring to something in the distant future. A choice that Luxu makes in the end. As for the No Name and the Book of Prophecy, I bet it'll be destroyed the moment everyone else realizes what it is, or at least that'll become the priority. Because once it's gone, MoM can no longer see the future.

Bro, it’s been so long since I watched these cutscenes, I’ll take your word for it.

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it..." In my opinion, none of them are traitors. It was all part of the plan. We can expect that the traitor may only be revealed in a future arc. Maybe luxu will betray MoM during events in Quadratum.

before even watching I had to like and comment. I love your vids because of how professional, comedic, and the types of proofs you use. its all very logical yet creative.

I already knew this. The MOM lied and manipulated X events into happening. Once it was written, all that was needed was a catalyst, a trigger to sound the canons of war. By enforcing his will into the Foretellers and grooming them, he was able to seed the darkness within them and allow the war to happen as written. Luxu was a victim. The Foretellers were the true vessels of Darkness, allowing it to seed and spread further into the hearts of all those in Daybreak Town. Player having the power of Dawn, was also a pawn in this sick game. Having been manipulated the entire time and forced to watch all those dear to him die. Player reincarnated becoming Blue Hood, while his Darkness melted away into Xehanort. The War began over again. The Master intended for the Darkness to win, and for the war to start in the future, but it all began in the past.

I mean it's obvious. The only character in Org13 who didn't turn against it. Even Xemnas was out doing some 'side missions'

I just want to offer a counterpoint, being the Traitor is Luxu's role. Even if he never betrayed the MoM or the other Foretellers, his *role* in the Master's plans was the Traitor. And also look at every group he's been a part of *aside* from the Foretellers. Xehanort's classmates? Sat back and let Baldr kill them all. Ansem's Apprentices? They all got their Hearts extracted. The True Organization? All part of his job, no real loyalty. He may not have been a traitor to his Master and friends, but everyone else? They're free game.

Luxu isn't really traitor to the other Foretellers, pretty much all of them did things that violated what the Master told them to do. Regardless, the Master still specifically refers to Luxu as the traitor. It's one of the only instances we know he's telling the truth in this instance due to him being alone. The Master has been playing a careful game with Luxu, constantly feeding temptation in his heart to disobey his orders. Prime example being how he tells Luxu that he is allowed to watch over the Union Leaders, but that he cannot interfere. In the end, Luxu violates that order and meddles. The Master knew Luxu would disobey him and intended him to do so, Luxu even seems to infer this intention as well. At this point, it's also apparent that Luxu was being dishonest in his KH3 reports about having handed the Gazing Eye to one of the Union Leaders. It's likely that he stole Brain's body and kept the Gazing Eye for quite a long while after (I think he did this to save Brain btw, likely sending his heart into the future where he arrives safely in Scala with a new body and his memories intact). It's likely that the cloaked figure with the Gazing Eye seen in the Missing Link trailer is also Luxu. I also doubt Luxu was ever "keybladeless" as he claims. He has another keyblade in Dark Road. And it's likely that he had an original keyblade of his own prior to the Master giving him the Gazing Eye. Luxu was already a fully trained master by that point, so it makes very little sense that this was his first keyblade. He'd also need a keyblade to be able to transfer his heart into other bodies too. Plus he comes to learn at least some of the information written in the book that he was ordered not to read (such as the existence of a "Dark Seeker").

Why are we listening to a guy with yellow eyes? Anyway, I tend to agree with all of this almost entirely...yet, I still trust the Master's vision and plan, but I also wonder if Sora will find a way to willpower the darkness away without losing the masters. You know Sora! He's not the best with a keyblade and not a master of the power of waking, but still wills himself to greater heights to save his friends, both in combat and with cutscene powers, and even rewrote time twice. If anyone can surprise the Master, it's him.

Wasnt there a theory that Ava was kairi's grandmother? I sont remember

Luxu is a very grey character, I'm not sure what's running through his mind or what he wants to do. I hope Missing Link makes his intentions clearer.

I mean, I think we've all kinda knew this if we watched the cutscenes. It's refreshing to see Luxu given a fair case.

You’re pfp/avatar looks like it belongs in The World Ends With You. 🙂

The beginning of the video was so unnecessary. You aren’t funny or clever

Thanks fir declaring my innocence.

When the master said he's a brilliant artist and a scholar, or when he's dreaming for world peace while planning its destruction... he is everything he said is

Would you consider Luxu’s involvement in Ansem the Wise’s banishment a betrayal?

Man two months good to see you post.

As someone that pretty much only knows bits about Union Cross, I NEVER knew that Ava striking Luxu was the cause of the Keyblade War. That puts what Luxu/Xigbar said in the KH3 epilogue into BIG perspective for me.

Dude I can't believe they disabled Union Cross I hope missing Link comes out soon cuz I am really dying to play it!

Someone had to say it. Though Im still partial to there was no traitor or the master is the real traitor. The dude dangled the idea of leadership in front of aced like a carrot on a stick knowing full well he was arguably the most susceptible to darkness.

I don’t think the master made up the lost page, betrayal happened but like Gula said - it was very vague and you could say most of the apprentices made betrayals in their own right. Ava’s is clear, Aced and Gula formed an alliance as well as Aced saying they had to go against the masters teachings, and Invi was like a spy for Ira. I can’t think of Ira’s though 🧐

Arguably setting Brain up to operate despite being a destined Vessel means Luxu put the element of chaos that put the future in flux. Brain, Ventus, Vanitas, Sora. All of them throw the future into flux outside the intent of the BoP's intended railroad. This is a 'traitor' move but not an evil move. If we accept that MoM is a villain.

"the truth is what you see with your eyes not what you hear" is equivalent with " action speaks louder than words"? it is a sad fate that awaits Ava, She is tasked to seek the traitor but by doing so, she became the traitor who initiates the whole event. when the traitor doesn't realize she is the traitor, what could be sadder than that? She acts to prevent the darkness that about to befall upon them, yet that sole actions instead lead to the befallen darkness. The Director of Story Board of KH sures like to create a poetic conflict as a representation of one ideal/philosophy.

Thought Luxu was the traitor because he personally body hopped to keep an eye on his keyblade, instead of just letting it naturally pass on ftom user to user. Following the masters orders in his own way, not the intended way

Watching THIS was all part of the plan. I fell RIGHT into the trap. DARN IT! I have NO CHOICE but to press the LIKE button. If I fall into another trap... I might have to... NO! I WON'T DO IT! I KNOW the plan is to subscribe and continue my addiction of KH theories. I REFUSE

*"Not only have you the power to inflict pain, you also have the power to plant seeds of doubt in one's receptive heart. Sora will soon begin to doubt himself. It will cause him to hesitate, and that hesitation will turn to anger. That anger will fuel him to get rid of his apprehensions and move forward. He will pave the way for the future we desire."* -Xemnas This quote basically describes exactly what the Master of Masters has done with the Fortellers. He caused them to doubt each other, and fight. Therefore allowing darkness into their hearts.

i don't think the lost page is necessarily a fabrication or that the existence of a traitor was itself a lie. it's like you say, it maps too well on ava's actions to be a complete coincidence. it's more that MoM made sure the words got misinterpreted to ensure that it would happen.

so... the conversation between Luxu and Ava was split across two days months apart. It took Luxu a long time before Ava was sufficiently provoked into clashing. That said, Ava had already made plans to swap Sterletzia out two year prior to the Keyblade War... so perhaps she was a traitor long before Luxu coaxed it out of her

And about The Master of Masters making the Foretellers feel true Darkness Emotions, you forgot Luxu has to feel them, too. The Master explains Luxu has to use a Dark Corridor to escape the Worlds Destruction. Which means he must harbor the Darkness Lust. So, the Master is using what he says about the passage to do what he did to the other five Foretellers but in a different direction. The Idea that there was no Traitor but The Master made the Five think their was,(making them Darkness Bait) causes Luxu to have Traitorous Angry thoughts about the Master and Darkness's Games. That draws Darkness in. Thus, Luxu becomes the Traitor, and a Dark Vessel.

Something to point out. Luxu had his keyblade out first so while Ava drawing hers against luxu might make her the traitor she might have believed Luxu might have attacked first

Got a feeling melody of memory, union x, dark road etc are going to be 3.5 3.8 bundle right before kh4 releases just like how they did 1.5+2.5 remix.

I'm not gonna lie. You solved it. This theory makes way too much sense. It makes so much sense I don't even wanna consider it a theory this is the fucking TRUTH. Subscribed. Now watch when KH4 comes out and you're totally correct. Your mind is gonna be blown man.

I think that the missing page is like people not understanding the Book of Revelation from the bible, as they try to figure out when the end of the world will come and only to be let down when it doesn't happen yet. My theory is what's written in the Book of Prophecy WILL happen. But they don't know when it will happen and basically guessing random dates Just saying, I have a hard time keeping up with the extreme attention to details in KH series. But that's my basic theory so go easy on me.

It makes sense given his manipulative nature, but that bit from the master you included at the end: "The truth is what you see with your eyes"? Over and over Kingdom Hearts has given us people with illusions, even Ava. I wouldn't be inclined to trust them too much either...

I'm new to your channel and I love it. Extreme nitpick here, but please remove the intro, or like shorten it to 5 seconds instead of 20. I like that your intro segment is split, but that intro is just tooooooo long my man.

I'm so glad I found your videos. Take your time uploading new ones, quality > quantity, no matter what the algorithm says.

I feel like the mere mention of a traitor created the traitor. A weird paradox. Mom planted the seeds of distrust, and in a sense I think everyone became a “traitor” at some point. Hence their names pointing to the themes of what causes them individually to falter.

If the book is based upon a lie, then who can say the MoM can actually see to the future?, and even then, is any future chapter true or just another plan?, man....

The way he went about things the book the box the way he talks to the darkness as if there old friends not understanding one another the original traitor the Mom is or was one of the original darknesses The master and his mischievous ways his name is Loki

Namura was touching on false truths ... misinformation....believing something without thinking Damn

Sora's team can't turn against each other because "Ok I believe you.jpg"

I have been saying Ava is the traitor along. And that we are not playing as the heroes but the real villains. That’s right sora and friends are the real 13 darknesses

Happy birthday my birthday was on February 27th we're almost close😂

Luxu did nothing wrong, Aced is a dummy, Ira should have stepped up, Gula is a tool, Invi is useless, and Ava is mega sus.

This is very perception changing and makes Luxu the unfortunate scape goat caught in a web he can't do shit about.

He's the traitor because he is defying the master of masters plan

Ive always thought axel was MoM, his voice sounds very familiar to his and axel kinda acts that way when hes ur enemy

You are by far my favorite kh content creator, I could listen to your voice and theories for hours!

It’s quite obvious the traitor was the hidden foreteller “mukuro ikusaba”

I went to subscribe and I already was 😅 oops

I got an ad and then the Danganronpa showed up and I was confused until the scratch record 💀💀💀💀

Pls im so desperate to see your videos i just watching old stuff again🤣

I mean. "innocent" is a bit far 😅 he's done plenty of meaniehead stuff

Luxu should have abandoned the box and taken out the master cause in the end there can be no light with out darkness

The master of master didnt lie. The master of master is the only one traitor

The fact I just cuted my hair before watching this video made me smile

Ava tried to stop all of it, her thinking became different from the Master

Each time I watch a video I find a new reference on your channel character

I think the pure darknesses are what’s in the black box

Please can someone tell me what song in the beginning is before his intro

“The truth is what you see with you eyes, not what you hear”

genuinely cute avater, I kinda love it XD

The master of masters called him the Traitor???

Wait wouldn't that make the MoM the traitor?

Nicely broken down.

So none of the foretellers were the traitor

I love the shape of your mouth.

I like the way you think, man. This was all really interesting and intriguing. I've narrowed it down to two instances happening. Either A), The Master of Masters made up the "traitor" role. And, planted this seed within them (Foretellers) to get the gears going on "Fate." Remember, Young Xehanort mentions this in his diatribe about "TIme Travel." You "cannot" forcefully change Fate. The events that are meant to happen WILL Happen. Thus, I feel this is why the Master of Masters planted this seed. So, he could tip the scales of Fate and begin his "plan". Or, B) there really is a traitor. And, it will eventually be shown to be either Luxu or someone in Sora's gang. I feel these two are eventually going to happen and be shown. Maybe just one of them. But, we will eventually see what this meant in the future. I'm just anxious to see what's in this Black Box! For God's Sake!!! Lmfao 😅. We've been waiting for years now!

What if avas face revel is strelizia

Love the videos man! Keeping us interested in this dry spell! By the way, you may want to enunciate a little more when you say “Daybreak Town”….😅

Why yes this is a new hair style

I mean i have been arguing this since that cutscene between Ava and Luxu was release and fan translated on the 2012's while everyone was like "Luxu is the traitor", and my opinion has never changed regarding this... So im completly in favor of this to be honest.

I knew to a degree Luxu wasn't a Traitor and that one didn't even exist and at the same time AVA was the traitor, but this video gave me more evidence as to why so. Thank you for that, I enjoyed it!

This is the first video I’ve seen of yours. I’m a minute into the video and already you’ve referenced every single one of my favorite games in some way (KH, TWEWY, Persona 5, Danganronpa). I think I love you.

Broke: Ava is teh traitor Woke: Luxu is the traitor Galaxy brain: the MoM is the traitor Cosmic mind: Ava is the traitor because she's the only one that actualy acomplished her goal ok I might be worng about that last one since I don't remember half the missions the MoM gave to them lol

*remember KhUx and cries*