This is so much fun as a Korean guy, I enjoyed your content. Keep doing what you're doing! I have so much stuff to talk about this topic, I would love to talk about this with you if you want hahaha
Oh! I'm glad you enjoyed watching it!! I have so much more to say on this too. I'm thinking I will make more videos about Tinder soon because there's too much to say 🤣 But since you're a Korean guy, I'm curious how it is for you. I'm guessing there are a lot of annoying things on your side too... But also, other guys making everyone look like 변태 😂
I met my boyfriend on Tinder back in July and we have been dating for almost 6 months now! He's been my best boyfriend yet so I feel super lucky to have met him... definitely had to swipe through so much trash though lol.
yeah I told my boyfriend (who I met irl) that I used to use tinder and he was like really? you know Koreans use that as a sex app right?? I think they fucked up in the marketing because that's most Koreans perception of it, which of course entices all the weirdos in.
Yeah they messed up 100% You can tell they are trying to backtrack because they've introduced so many ads about friendship including ads with the elderly tv personality whose name has slipped my mind at the moment (or maybe they're trying to help the elderly get some action 😂 Who knows at this point?) Let's see if they can rebrand, but I highly doubt it. A better solution would be to introduce a sorting system for people to check off what they're looking for so they're only shown like-minded people. I think bumble does something like that. But, again, hopes are not high 😆
I try not to advocate for which way is better since I've seen it go equally wrong for people who met offline (although for some it went great). I think whether online or offline, it's more about knowing the warning signs. I try to be realistic and think of it this way, "it takes courage for men to approach women. But, iIt's almost unheard of for a man in Korea to go up and talk to a woman he doesn't know or see regularly in public, even a Korean woman. So, if a man approached me of all people, not knowing whether I could speak Korean or not, he's either insanely brave, or actually crazy." In my case, it's almost always the second. 😅 I've had guys try to pick me up in restaurants, on the subway, in bars. But, they always end up asking for sex pretty immediately after texting if I did give my number. Again, they think foreign women are easy (to an extreme). Koreans still mostly date by introduction from a friend, coworker, or some chain of acquaintances. Otherwise, they met at school, work, church, or through some co-ed activity. I've asked friends to introduce me and had a few dates that way. But, that's pretty much a waiting game until the right friend finds the right other friend that matches you. Anyway, I'm ranting. Basically, there are pros and cons to each method. So, it's good to be open to both while also understanding the culture so you can stay away from trouble.
And doomed to get worse at this rate. There are always ridiculous characters on Tinder all over the world. But, damn. Korea has taken the gold medal in craziness on the app as far as I'm concerned. Have you seen Tinder Korea's recent branding? You can tell they're trying really hard to fix it. But... good luck cuz you can't fix "sex crazy" 😂
I’ve never been on a date from Gay Tinder Korea since I’ve been here because I find most Korean gay men only want to date other Korean gay men. The language barrier makes my options even fewer.
Not sure if you mean Tinder set to find men or like a separate app that gay men use. I have asked my Korean friend (who is gay) and he said he prefers to just use Tinder rather than any other app because those apps tend to just be for hookups whereas Tinder can be hit or miss. I have other gay friends here (also Korean) and they say they hate using apps and just try to meet socially. We're in unknown territory for me, so I don't want to talk about it like I know haha I'm so curious about the gay community in Korea. But, I don't want to make my friends uncomfortable by prying too much. I think with all dating though, it's really going to change who's in your dating pool if you aren't able to communicate in Korean. :( The guys I've gone out with improved pretty much in unison with the improvement of my language skills haha
It seems as if you’re blaming foreign women for Korean men’s bad behavior. They bare responsibility in this a well. They don’t have to act like perverts. And foreign women being fast & easy is not causing them to behave this way. This is behavior they were probably keeping undercover before Tinder. Everyone should know by now there are some weirdos in Korea just like every other country. With all the “upskirt, stalking, spycam & sex scandal stories that have surfaced, it’s clear some Korean men behave badly no matter how women behave. But Tinder is for grown ups. If people want to use it to hookup while in Korea, that’s their business. I think the women really living in fantasy land are the ones that expect to find love & marriage in Korea. Those guys will date foreign women but most won’t marry them. Also, you have to be careful about the ones you date as well. I have seen videos talking about forums Korean men have where the show off & brag about their “ white or black horse” (white & black women). There were pics of Korean men with their wife or gf & their kid, pics of women sleeping after sex, video of women half naked, etc. This is a group of men so immature and insecure in their sexuality that they have to brag about their conquests to other men. So foreign girls shouldn’t take Korean men seriously because most of them don’t take the women seriously. And if you really think about a lot of western men see Asian women as cheap & easy too. That is why Asia has a robust sex tourism industry. Bottom line men can be pigs everywhere, no matter how women behave.
I'm sorry that you took it that way, but appreciate your very detailed comment. I have pre-filmed other videos on the topic that will come out later and in those videos, I think you get a more well-rounded look at my views on this subject. There is no way that I can fit everything I think and feel into a 20min video. At the same time, I don't want to make incredibly long videos because I want people to watch them. I will have a video out literally this week or next week where a female friend and I are addressing safety for women in Korea and how they should be aware of things like upskirt cams and hidden cameras. I am aware that Korea is not a drama fantasy land (which I said in my video) and my mission on this channel is to present the reality of Korea both the good and the bad. My main goal with this video was to address the fact that there ARE issues with the app first and foremost. There are sooo many issues that, again, I couldn't get to them all here. Additionally, I wanted to give some different perspectives aside from the already completely overdone "Korean men are assholes" videos. Do I think that? I definitely think they can be and some issues that you brought up are very true. But, if you want to see another video of another foreign woman complaining about Korean men... there are hundreds at this point. Still, I think you've focused very specifically on one thing I said while disregarding everything else I said. I also think that you've projected what you think my views are based on that one thing. I definitely addressed that there was an influx of weirdos that flooded Tinder after a marketing surge. I did not present this as if Tinder was causing their weirdness, so obviously they were already weird perverts before Tinder and just joined the app as a tool to fuel that, making it less effective for dating and safety. I also said that women are free to mess around with guys if that's their thing, but if it's not they should be aware that some men on the app are going to treat them like they only exist for sex, so they should be aware and dodge that if they aren't looking for that. In short, I addressed BOTH sides from my "foreign woman" perspective. I came here 6 years ago and realized that Korean men were often not taking me seriously and expecting me to be fast and I wondered "why is that?" Then, I saw people who came here to party and hookup and like "Oh ok. That's why." That's all I meant by that and I think it's reaching for you to present that as victim-blaming, especially when I added that some women get taken advantage of because, unfortunately, they are living in fantasy land and thought they were experiencing love. It sounds like you yourself have some bitter feelings about Korea or Korean men. One thing that I try not to do is generalize, which is why I make an effort to share things from different perspectives and not just my favorite one. I try to present views that people might not have thought about and that give a more in-depth understanding of something they may have thought was very shallow and simple. So, I'm going to disagree with you on your point that women expecting to find love and marriage in Korea are in fantasy land. Is it unlikely? Ok, sure you could say that. But, if you're going to say that American men treat Asian women like shit so men are bad everywhere, I don't really see how you can tell women that they won't find love or marriage here. If you're going to say men suck everywhere and do the same shit everywhere, be consistent. I've lived in 3 different countries and dated in all 3. I know men suck everywhere and do the same shit everywhere. But, that means it's also possible, if someone wants and if they are actively trying to avoid shitty people, to find love and marriage here. Do I think foreign women need to be careful and not trust Korean men so easily? Yes. Do I think most Korean men don't take foreign women seriously? Yes. But, as I said in my video, I think foreign women can be vigilante once they accept that and they can get better at screening who is serious and who isn't so they can protect themselves and find what they are looking for. I've lived in Korea for 6 years, Asia for 10 years, and I came here with a degree in East Asian Language and Society after spending years studying topics like history, sexuality, gender representation, etc. Whether good or bad, every aspect of a society has an explanation or a reason. You have to understand all those things from all directions, even the ones you don't agree with, before you can actually solve anything. I presented Tinder and dating in ways that most wouldn't in hopes that they'd have a deeper understanding besides "Korean men suck". I very clearly stated the importance of awareness of how Koreans view foreigners so they can screen through trashy men and protect themselves. All I ask anyone who happens to read this is that you continue to watch my videos because I have a lot to share on this and many other topics. I will give my viewpoints which I've tried to consider from different perspectives, even those that aren't popular or common. This is because I'm trying to be REAL and in a real situation, it's usually not 100% one thing or the other. I'm tired of people presenting Korea as 100% the greatest country ever, but I'm also tired of people complaining and giving very blanketed statements about how ALL koreans, ALL korean men, ALL korean women are (insert bad thing they are butthurt about).
I KNOW!!! Saaame. I always think like, "Ok, I know people use this as a hook-up app, but things have gone a little too far with this..." I also realized it means that men are looking at each other's profiles to see "the trends" before they make theirs, right? Cuz how do they all have the same crazy ideas? 🤣
I'm sure it's widespread. It's just such a shame that it leads people to end up discriminating against certain groups when it's just some bad seeds spoiling the plot so to speak. Nothing we can really do about it though except be aware. *sigh
