Daughter of Mormon General Authority Hartman Rector Jr. - Lila Tueller Pt. 3 - Mormon Stories  

I'm so glad people are finding out the truth. Truth is light and it will always expose the darkness.

I seriously love this gal. She is so genuine and real.

Wow! this interview is very powerful in its core message... it started out slow, with some memories and testimonies regarding Lds relevant figures of the '70 and '80, but then it got to this point of really what's the point of life, why are we here. I really appreciate how vulnerable people let themselves be in those interviews and how much they are willing to share. Thank you Lila for being honest and open about your experience... so important to all of us!

Why on earth did it take so long for all this to surface?so many of us would have never joined the Church.So here we all are now running in all directions.Tryingtoget free .

This woman is so cool and so strong. Bless her.

Thank you for sharing deep details of your marriage and your questioning. I’m hugging you.

Lila, I admire your courage for speaking the truth when you are the child of an apostle. I have a relative who has married into an apostles family and I can't imagine the pressure s/he would go through if s/he were to do what you are doing. You have much courage!!! And John, I luv, luv, LUV the valuable work you are doing with mormon stories. Please, keep it up.

The one thing that stood out to me was that Lila's father would not discuss her questions about the church with her, but would have lengthy talks with her brother. Now maybe he didn't worry as much about her, but I have noticed women are unconsciously marginalized in the church by the men. I do not think the men are aware that they do this, but it happens, and it is wrong.

Thank you Lila for sharing your NDE. I know how personal that was to you ❤

Lila thank you for your story! Awesome interview! I do believe that she did have NDE. 👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

Thank you for your honesties :)

Beautiful woman. Inspiring story

Thank you both

Wow this is a powerful story! A Mormon has a near death experience and no mention of the church or a handshake in heaven, nothing. Let alone she was a GA’s daughter and a GA with the second anointing. I feel for her so much. When you’re in an abusive relationship like that, it is 100% your reality. You accept it and wallow in it. It’s very hard to explain to someone that’s never been through it.

An epic story!!! Thank you!!!!

Those out of body experiences are common with Trauma too. I had an experience like that while awake. I wasn't unconcious.

I did a Gig for Sandstone at the house in the 90's and got sassy with your Dad on my mission. Loved your Dad he was a Charachter! ☺

Lila thank you for sharing your story about your near death experience. I’ve been reading imagine heaven by John Burke highly recommend it if you are ever interested in reading it, there are countless near death experiences that sound a lot like yours. Your story about leaving the church is going to help so many people. My dad is really abusive to my mom and she has stayed by his side because of her faith in the church and it’s always bothered me. Even the bishops told her the same thing they said to you. I pray she leaves him and finds peace. You are so strong and so beautiful. Thanks again!

i had a N.D.E.experience and also came to the conclusion that religion did not matter.

I can’t help but be curious about the details and nature of Dan’s hiking accident.

Please let Lila know NOT to be upset with herself for not reading more when she was younger. The church preached “go out into the world,” HOWEVER, they kept us sooo busy with callings, meetings and our devotion to family we DID NOT HAVE TIME. That was the churches M.O. “Keep them sooo busy they won’t have time to see reality.”

Hartman was my area authority while on my mission in Wisconsin 92-94. I remember him coming to speak to us on one occasion.

Thanks!

I wonder if the church used the Hartman Rector jr as a tool because he is a convert? I just listened to one of his conference talks it was very good awesome man

What is the sunstone issue? I've never heard of it

I like the color of the wall behind John. I was amused by the picture of Joseph Smith and also the little gold Moroni statuette on the shelf. Are these indicative of what a lot of Mormons put on their shelves? Will you change items on that shelf each podcast?

Apostolic curse? How about first providing some evidence that you are in fact Seers, Prophets and Revelators?

Back in the 1970's my parents would take us to seminars where they would have classes of Mormon topics. We would travel sometimes a few hours away to attend these classes. What was that called? I'm out of the church for over 30 years after the Salamander letter came to light. Why should I believe when even the leaders don't? Do they still hold these workshops? Some of these classes would talk about radical ideas not discussed in church.

Not bad looking for someone born in about 1961! If you told me she was 35, I'd believe it😲👱💜

Lila, was your brother, Kirk, married when he attended BYU in 1973? I think I may have been an acquaintance of his wife; I believe she sold royal jelly skin care. They were the model Mormon couple. The next year I was married in the Provo Temple, but mine was NOT a model Mormon marriage. After 16 years of an abusive marriage, I left the Church and then my marriage in 1990.

I joined the MC in 1992. I have no knowledge of The September Six. Please explain.

Lila's NDE might be just a "dream," BUT the scientific research (for example, U of Virginia) does suggest that it's way more than a dream or a dying brain's hallucination. In fact, the evidence supports that death might not be the end, but just another beginning. Thanks for sharing this; it truly makes a difference on many people.

I have wondered why they say nothing about Patti. She and Hartman Rector, Jr. were so obviously deeply in love in the 2016-2017 era.

John- what does your Joseph Smith quote say behind you?

So interesting. Not a Mormon so I sometimes don’t know what you are referring to ( September 6, CES, etc) but I really had no knowledge of all the hierarchy and other details. All I knew was from the play Book of Mormon!

She starts telling her personal story at ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AroP0tJ_rb4.html

She says these men are good men, but I don't think either her father or her first husband could actually be considered good men. Good men don't abuse their wives. And good men don't stand by and do nothing while their daughters are being abused, especially not when at least one of them has attempted suicide. They may have been good in some aspects of their lives, but those are extremely deep and significant moral failings. Deep character flaws. I mean, it's not anyone's place to tell Lila how to feel about the people in her life, and I don't mean to criticize her perspective or anything. But it's just really striking to me that she says they are good men and then immediately explains things that, IMO, absolutely disqualify them from being considered good men in any full sense of the word.

If the LDS Church isn't true. What is? What's the purpose of life and what happens when we die?

I've been following your intriguing and relatable story. Raised LDS outside of Utah but of Pioneer "stock", attended BYU and basically of the same generation. I think the Church is rethinking and changing "things" before it becomes a House of Cards. Regarding your interesting NDE - the opinion that it is an experience of the brain has now been refuted by the NDE of Eben Alexander, a Harvard Neurosurgeon, who details why the experience is real and cannot possible be "imagined" by the brain. His book "Proof of Heaven" spent months on the New York Best Seller List. He has given detailed lectures to other neurosurgeons proving his point. There are a few long videos he has done on RU-vid,... but a short, interesting interview video can be found at ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sCRwuJoQAZg.html ... stay with it for at least 12 minutes where he explains why the notion of the "brain" being "everything" for existence is now being scientifically dismissed, and there is something else going on.. I look forward to your next interview... your Great!

What is NDE?

I wonder what all those people she accused in this video have to say in defense of their integrity and their character. I wonder what we will learn about her that she isn;t telling us.

I’m still FUMING over the fact GA’s don’t follow the “No R-rated movies, no Caffeine…” rules, yet all of those years of strict obedience was never enough. Shameful.

I feel sad 😢 that she has to say this husband who abused her, kept her miserable was a wonderful man… I am not that graceful.. lots of hugs

this lady is my dads 10th cousin. interesting.

Sad story. Everyone of us have our personal journey story. Some have easier time in moving on, others get stuck mentally. A lie, no matter how it is dressed up, will never be true. Though personally it was difficult to let go of a life-long mental conditioning, the truth literally set me free. The Mormonism lie is really a very small grain of sand in the sea of lies. Revelation 12:9.".....and the devil which deceives the whole world..." not some people and others not. But, everyone have been deceived about, literally, everything. Starting with the supposed earth as we have been taught to be. Nothing is what we have been taught to be. Love, in the end, is triumphant!! The Bible, though manipulated, has immense amount of truth. Passages that sounds fictional, actually are true. True is stranger than fiction. We all have been deceived! Thank you, beautiful, sister!!

Boyd K Packer put an “apostolic curse” on her brother? ! ! ! In Galatians 3:13 we read, “Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us-for it is written, ‘Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree’” (ESV). Jesus was cursed for us, hanging on the cross as a substitute for our sins. Part of Christ’s atonement was to be cursed for us to remove curses, and yet, here you have an “apostle” issuing a curse. That’s witchcraft! It’s an abomination for a so-called man of God to be cursing God’s children. Packer was an absolute loose canon on the deck. How he got to spout his many spiritually false pronouncements again and again before he passed speaks to the weakness of the leaders who failed to recognize his attitude, demeanor, imbecilic pronouncements on spiritual matters for what the are.

More kids than I knew what to do with,how hurtful statement

She's hot!

I hear a lot about shortcoming from people. But that its not the lord doctrine so ,...

I am member of this amazing and powerful church, no one person that was obedient to the lord truly, cant denay thistrue church of Jesuschrist, put in front of me an "irregular member" that never was committed and i will show you a person without any manifestation of the power of the lord in his life, the church was like anything for them and that is his TRUE and is for real to them, because they lived in the dark, that will see, just dark, and for one mistake of one person you cant say ALL the Church is bad, and specially this wonderful Gospel that have bring us so many Peace, power, light, guide and a correct direction, my father was an authority, i was Bishop and my brother too and I know that this church and his Gospel brings a diffrent Life to the person who decide follow to the lord, with real intends, leaving his sins, his pride, his prejuigdes, his vain mind, and just then will see the real light, and just then a sobrenatural power will involved that person and never could denay the truth becauase have seen the path so clearly like the sun in a summer morning and God will reveal him this truth.

Lila, Pretty sure your dad stayed at our house in the '80s when visiting our stake in Florida (my dad was Stake President). My parents were so worried that their rebellious surfer/skater kids would make a bad impression. Good to know that you were giving ol' Hartman Rector hell too! Also, I'm sorry you've dealt with so much shit... You seem like a you're such a smart, strong person. Thanks for sharing your story.