As a kid growing up in Old Glossop Derbyshire, I used to be one of the "beaters" on the grouse shoots at Torside, Crowden and Deep Clough We had a stick and a white flag and would drive the grouse towards the shooters. We would walk many miles in a days shoot and get 10 bob and a nice feed out of it. You didn't mention anything about the grouse beaters who without them the shooters wouldn't have anything to aim at. I've lived in Australia for over 40 years but still love the wild barren moors in this part of the world.
I've been watching your films for a while now Dave, and must say this is the best, we shooters all know how good shooting is for our moors and our other habitats. I like in this film how you've appealed to the non shooter and explained what good it does for environment. Not only that what tourism our sport brings to our economy. If Countryfile are watching take note, this is the countryside, not the sugar coated rubbish we keep seeing week in week out. Keep up the good work Dave, all the best.
if it really was for 'the good for the moors', why do they still release hundreds of thousands of factory farmed grouse into the wild each year so people can shoot them? also, if you stopped shooting foxes, no bird would be a problem, even without the money sucking 'farmers'.
@@imeeky_4635 and if the enviorments need to be controlled, why can't the big landowners let the natural predators live and stop burning the heather? then it wouldn't be a problem.
Nice video Dave I like that you stand up for the estates that protect other species ,we like to shoot .it's about time other people realise that it's more than that.
gameshooting is a vast community of like minded people who all have one common goal "preservation and conservation" of our beautiful countryside and its flora and fauna
polluting the water and deforestation is good for our beautiful countryside? and why do you need so much to preserve speicies? their onnly animals, there's enough to last a while.
Might be a daft question (i'm new to shooting) but what are the little metal frames you set up? Is it so you have a "no shooting beyond here" type thing in you peripheral vision?
Because of the way grouse fly "hugging the contours of the land" these are called butt sticks - put in place to protect the neighboring guns, the sticks prevent you pulling through the line - you shoot in front first and anything getting behind - you would go over the sticks (this forces the barrels skywards) safely for the shot behind. thanks for watching DC
@@DaveCarrieShooting I'd just add as well that the most important time for the butt sticks is when you are at either end of the line. outside of those butts, up to 3 people stand with flags and can very easily disappear into the contours of the moor. when in one of these butts gun and loader should double check that they have accounted for all of the flags standing outside of them.
Great video. Is that a straight out of the box Miroku or do you have anything special done to it? We have a Miroku dealer now here in the US and have been looking at a MK38 20 gauge.
Dave Carrie if they are half as good as the Grouse, will be looking forward to seeing them. Are they from your usual Estate days, or are you trying out new areas. How about coming down south?
Great channel Dave; very informative & beautifully shot. Do you use 3/4 & full choke on the grouse ? Same for the high pheasant ? Would a fixed 1/4 & 1/2 (with 30-32g 5s) be OK for these types of shoots in your opinion?
Hi Tad- i use 3/4 3/4 on grouse but i do look for longer shots all the time - 1/4 and 1/2 and the new gamebore grouse extreme 33gm 5.5 or the black gold 32 5s are perfect through those chokes
blackgame is another species of grouse that share the habitat with the red grouse, although much rarer than the red, with careful moor management it is on the increase and is well protected by the moor keepers and owners alike.
Safety Officer This is a shoot that only had a pallet in front and no sides, I did complain to the organisers and I could have edited most of the controversial shots out, it did leave me quite bare for criticism, but hopefully the shoot estate managers will notice the criticism and build correct butts with safety sticks and a grouse like safety aspect ( hopefully for this season) but I assure you all my shots were safe well in front or well behind. Obviously you are looking for faults!! That’s ok I have big shoulders👍
Brilliant accuracy but I am with Mark Speelman about the importance of taking care. Personally I would be unhappy if I had been in the next butt at 6.49. You have defeated the purpose of the "sticks" by stepping back in your butt. You might have edited that out.
as explained to Mark in my reply, i left it in on a purpose, purely camera angle that makes it look wrong, i can assure you there is a few more very much like that frame - but we decided to leave that one for this kind of reaction, but thanks for your input Michael very much appreciated.
2:00....65 to 70 MPH for birds? What does the International Trap and Skeet throwers fling them at!?? 65 MPH for International Title Trap and Skeet! You should be used to that! 1 1/8 oz. of shot? Light load for a 12 bore over here. Trap load for most of us except for the shot size. Normal Grouse or Pheasant load here is 1 1/4 oz. of whatever shot size you want. I normally run 5 shot. The guns like it. 1 3/8 oz. is heavier and is slower. 1 1/2 Oz. is heavy on the shoulder and much slower. But has a more dense pattern. Don't hit them close, or you will have nothing but feathers and dog food. The man is an exceptional shot. Watch as he knocks down birds with ease. Some people can just shoot a shotgun well. The rest of us just look on and weep. 8:25......Go to the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Woodcock, Ruffed Grouse, and Pheasants are excellent. Fishing is to die for. Only thing they do not have are salt-water species. Hunting is totally different from what you are used to, Dave.