James Hetfield does all those warm-ups. It does sound lame, but it will help your voice...take your pick, do embarrassing vocal exercises or blow out your voice.
Your all dead ass wrong saying they weren't friends. Yeah the fame put wedges between them, but Dave saying Kurts handwritten letter to him calling them "brothers" showed they were just strained. Or Kurt apologizing to Dave after almost ODing in Rome. None of us were there, but there's more proof to them being brothers then them hating eachother.
I remember reading a story online in the late 90s by his sister who said that when they would go out to the lake he would start screaming and she asked him what he was doing and he said "stretching out my vocal chords" :) I wish I could find all of those storys again, the internet was a bit smaller back then and you could actually find his relatives and what they wrote about him online.
I read that also. That story was published in a book. Not sure if it was "come as you are" but it was certainly a book published just around/after his death.
Morrison did the same. Instead of taking training vocal, he chose to "train" his vocal chords by screaming his lungs out. I mean, wtf. I guess that they would have lost their voices eventually, but, there is Dave Grohl, another big time screamer. I don't know.
And these biographies I've read. There's no book or biography that i know of saying he *didn't* take vocal lessons at some short point. So that's not a reason. A sited source saying he didn't. Then your right. So you prove your point. Tho not sure what the name calling has to do with any of it. Grow up kid or you'll be swallowed by the ones who actually understand the world. Stop being a key board warrior.
I don't really get why you came to a Kurt related video to comment that, i mean, you know you are a nobody right? The vast majority of people wont give a shit about your "shitty" opinion.
Rick D He sold out. Sorry for the foo-f fans. But he did. I agree with Buzz from the Melvins, he suddenly didnt knew them anymore. Kurt didnt like him at the end either (i dont think what courtney said was true, like, he was officialy kicked out of the band, but Kurt couldnt stand him anymore for some reason. On the other hand, (and thats the only thing i have against Kurt) Kurt suddenly became a dick about the money issue. Out of the blue, after ALL those years, months before his death he went up to Novoselic and Grohl, and said they had only the right to gain 25% of the money, and he alone 75 because he wrote the lyrics. And for SOME reason (though i cant prove it) this was that bitch talking in his ear... Or maybe kurt turned suddenly into a dick, though i dont think so because otherwise he would have said this way before that.
SimplyLimbo i dont agree with any of that nonsense of kurt not liking krist or dave at the end. Dave was nearly in tears accepting the award that year at mtv awards for nirvana, and just saying he wishes his friend was still here, you dont say that stuff when its come down that someone suddenly hates you. The money thing, very well could be true, courtney = yoko. Kurt just didnt have the passion anymore for the stage, and you can see a broken man in mtv live and loud show, (that show was 3 months before his death btw). Its all speculation. And now, its all history.
Actually, if Kurt has lived, he 1000% would have needed to start doing vocal warm ups and voice maintenance or else he would have blown out his vocal cords and been done by the age of 35. Facts
Eddie Vedder doesn't sing like he used to in the 90s and I guarantee you this is why. Cobain 100% would have either done a nirvana album that bombed, toned it way back to the acoustic sound he was moving towards, or stopped making music until he could see a professional. I respect what Dave is saying in that it was unique enough that he didn't need a coach at the time, but there is zero sustainability in that. Best evidence? Despite Nirvana's success, I'm positive that Dave Grohl sees a vocal coach for the foo fighters; hence why he's still banging it out in his 40s just fine
I don't think he was getting emotional, his voice just got shaky. That was not something to get emotional about and he was laughing afterwards. Who knows though.
I think it was more of a quiver in anticipation of how funny the story's climax is. The thought of the irony that Kurt would be doing these "me me me"s to warm up.
I could never imagine kurt doing any form of vocal training, the guy sang from the heart, his music sounded good to him, it was joy that's why it was so easy for him
I think what helped Cobain was that his voice was really unique, so he only had to have a moderate amount of vocal skill and his signature harsh and ever so slightly nasal sound that he had made up for his lack of training, a unique voice is better than a highly trained one.
I think you're right and I'd like to add that one thing made him so great was that his pitch was very perfect, for the most part live when he was at his best too. Whether it be quite and stripped down on Unplugged or yelling the end of Territorial Pissings, he was always pitch perfect imo with the undertone of that gravel.
The guy was a punk. Listen to Mexican Seafood. Kurt was just not bothered by what anyone thought about his voice. Also an extremely underrated guitarist
James Hetfield lost his voice whilst doing the black album and went to see a vocal coach who did the same kind of vocal exercises tape. It helped him. A singer has to take his/her voice seriously and fine tune it. Cobain was a great vocalist nonetheless.
The problem is, that a lot of these singers should've been classically trained from the start and then they could of carried on screaming for years to come with no loss.
Liam Watson Billie Joe Armstrong did vocal training when he did the American Idiot musical on Broadway. It helped him tremendously, you can hear the difference in his singing.
Kurt’s ancestors passed on the voice. Many Irish have sung for centuries and have beautifully unique voices passed on. We experience with Tim Buckley, Jeff Buckley, Sinead O Connor , Enya, etc. Most no vocal training. They are all other worldly. Kurt could do many things with his voice that he was just born with and sang from his soul. Rest In Peace beautiful Angel.
Damn Kurt Cobain is Irish? I had no clue. Irish are some of the songsmiths of humanity. It is no surprise that Patois from Jamaica and Irish accent speaking the occupier's language called English has similarities. One example is saying ting in lieu of thing but you can see more at the end of this comment. Big up the Irish people, Kurt Cobain and the Greater Jamaican Region: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gxOeWpvjKxQ.html&ab_channel=TheBigNarstieShow
A great singer. When he wasn’t screaming, he had the voice of a man 20 or 30 years older, who’d lived a life that that voice reflected, and old rock’n’ roller
I know, right? I’ve been convinced that (due to the modern, texting age) people misspell words so often now that soon they’ll forget how to spell entirely and, eventually, it'll start seeping into elementally-level education of the English language. We all know that language evolves over time, but I believe that official word spelling changes are defiantly on the horizon. That's my prediction.
When I was reading everything I could about Kurt as a youth I stumbled upon a quote saying that he was the first one to scream a melody. This quote changed my perspective on rock singing and thus my life. Summer of August 2002 in Portugal all I had was the Nirvana greatest hits and Matrix 2 soundstack on CD. Gave me chills then gives me chills and thrills now.
Guys, as much as certain singers have natural raw talent, even the best eventually need vocal warm-ups. There's no doubt that if Kurt had kept singing the way he did (if he had lived), he would have wrecked it by 33. I myself used to avoid warm-ups and would try belting Nirvana songs and it resulted in vocal fold nodules. Once I started warm-ups, my voice would recover much faster from a belting session. So someone of Kurt's caliber would probably have benefitted from them.
You can see Dave that he loves to talk about Kurt and the time at Nirvana, but at the same time you can see that it also hurts somehow ... Love you Dave❤😪
I would really really really love listening Dave speaking about Nirvana life's episods lite this. Love you, Dave. And thanks for having been a bro to Kurt❤❤❤
what that shows is you don't need professional training anyone can be a musician. With the right attiude you can learn and become something you want with enough practice and dedication. I know with quarentine for me I've dedicated it to becoming better on guitar.
He was no Michael Jackson, Ronnie James Dio or Freddie Mercury. But those guys were no Kurt Cobain either. Kurt may not of been a flashy powerhouse vocalist to the likes of 80's rock, but he had a 4 octave range and fantastic relative pitch. It's not like he's out of key or anything, but he wasn't a practised and trained pop singer either but he didn't try to be! That's what people don't realise, objectively you can say what you want about him but anybody with a musical background can vouch that he was definitely a competent singer with loads of character and catchy hooks coming out his ears.
And music is all about expression, so there's that too. Kurt is more like a Bob Dylan, Robert Smith or Neil Young, an artist rather than a performer. Not to say you can't be both.
Cornell had a four octave vocal or more, I think you're exaggerating Kurt's range, still, his singing voice was decent, his screams were fuckin dynamite and his howling falsetto on mtv unplugged was incredible. ✌
Love his singing, but I'm pretty sure he'd have lost his growl by now. There's no exceptions when it comes to singing. You either practice and do it properly or you lose it after a while.
It takes a fair amount of discipline to keep up with those vocal exercises. And it really helps to know how to work those vocal muscles to avoid long term damage
Funny video....however, for young singers out there, I was losing my voice at band rehearsal and started vocal lessons from an opera singing coach. My voice got very strong and I learned how to sing powerfully without straining. But you do feel and sound like a dork when you are doing warmups against the tapes they are describing in this video. The vocal coaching DID help.
Yup, and it's apparent he did not get any vocal training. Now, no doubt Cobain had a unique voice, but it was more than his voice- it was the attitude and the music that led him. If he would have been alive today, he probably would not be able to sing at all- because his voice would have been completely ruined. There's no shame in doing vocal exercises- there's no shame in wanting to keep good voice hygene, so you can sing well into your 50's and 60's, and sometimes more. Look at Layne Staley and Chris Cornell- they both had vocal coaches, which only enhanced their amazing natural abillities. *of course, it is also important to get the right training...there are many people out there, calling themselves voice coaches, and know nothing about the voice, or how to develop it.
@@thesopranosdynasty dafuq it has to do with how Cobain sang? And beside the point- there are many people who can sing very good naturally without vocal training (and many of them, if deciding to make a career out of it will train their voices daily to keep it in good shape- usually with a singing teacher that might guide them more accurately). Nirvana was my favourite band growing up, and I always loved Kurt’s voice and expression, but I was strictly talking from the technique place- It doesn’t matter how good your voice is, if you use it every day for singing and shouting for a couple of hours on stage, if you don’t use it correctly, you will put it at risk of injuries, and possibly permanent damage.
Same thing happened to Hetfield around the same exact time. Blew his voice out, saw a vocal coach, got the same tape, but Hetfield uses it. And still warms up to that tape.
There are people who talk shit about Kurt's singing voice, but you don't have to have a lot of technical ability in the classic sense if your singing style is memorably distinctive. Jimi Hendrix wasn't a "great" singer, but no one has ever complained about his voice either. What Kurt lacked in a set of pipes he made up for in spirit.
You mean Kurt didn't have vocal training...like that's a shocker. If he had, I'm guessing he would have sounded totally different and we would never would have had that awesome voice of his!
I used to torture my rock back with super broadway musical theater warm ups. They HATED those things, which always made me do them more. "Gina lo lah bridge i-tuh" scales being a particular loathsome one for them.
On the other hand great singers like Robert Plant and Mick Jagger said if they could change anything they'd have learned some warm-up exercises. And even The Beatles said they learned a thing or two about vocal strain, etc. during their pre-fame stint in Germany.
I mean he must have learnt some how, if not the traditional method than simply singing alone to the sings he liked until he started hitting the right notes (after learning that's a way to practice)
There are those of us who approach Voice differently. Don't throw out the "Mi Mi Mi MIiiiisss" and the others, because they actually do work....especially if you find the right VOICE/BODY teacher. Your Voice is your Instrument, and that instrument resides In Your BODY. And the Motor is Your Breath. Yeah, you might be a natural force, with a voice to surprise thousands.....but eventually, the road and the stress and the range are gonna collectively call for help. Know your body "tics", Get to know your challenges in body & voice, and you will know your best voice. Become your own best Teacher. I'm not saying it's me....it's YOU. YOU should become your best teacher. So now when you think I'm going to push me or my method, I simply say, "Alexander Technique". Find a very good MAVERICK teacher, rote training in any method is not good. Vocal training is great for any singer, you just have to find the right approach for YOU.
One of Kurt Cobain's biggest lies - and it's something I think Dave Grohl has taken from him - is this kinda "aw, shucks, I didn't ever really practice or take lessons.." I guarantee you Kurt Cobain practiced singing and playing the guitar a lot. Maybe he didn't have formal training, but from the time he was a teenager, he's playing in bands, writing songs, touring, recording. Dave Grohl and Kurt Cobain both really studied their craft. They both like to present it as, "I just sit down at my drum kit or pick-up my guitar, and this just how it sounds." You can tell from the way Kurt Cobain sings that he has a very good idea of what he's doing. Had he lived, he probably would have benefited from a little more technique. But you can't tell me Kurt Cobain didn't know anything about how to use his voice or play his guitar. Maybe he wasn't going to win a scholarship to Berklee the way he played and sang, but you can tell he worked a lot at what he did.
you’re totally right! it bugs me to no end when people say “eh, he was sloppy with his guitar playing & his screaming is not right, he was just lazy and didn’t care”. like yeah, he wasn’t the most technical player or singer but he for sure knew what he was doing and what suited him the best. Cobain was a lot better than he was letting on and actually took his time to study his craft.
@nadyavishnyakova8297 maybe he just didn't care to make artistic maturity a forefront to explain his creative process? Like, of course the car mechanic knows everything about your car, that doesn't mean he has to sit there and explain how he knows and what he does specifically to get the job done. He's there to fix your car. Your happy. Kurt's there to make songs, your happy. It's not that deep.
Dave Grohl to Kurt Cobain is like Chuck Norris was to Bruce Lee. Both absolute legends in their own right and both were very fortunate to have intimate time with those heroes. What a blessing those guys are. If I could meet 2 people (outside my family history) I would pick Kurt Cobain and Bruce Lee....maybe George Washington lol
James Hetfeild blew his voice out at the same time for the Metallica Black album and also went to a voice coach and get the same cassette. But took it seriously and did it for years
Thing is. He makes light of it, but Cobain blew his voice out during the In Utero tour as well which culminated in the band cancelling a bunch of shows and taking a break which led to 'the Rome incident' which in turn led to Cobains death
I'm a huge Nirvana fan And Kurt had a fucking insane voice. More so in the higher shouting/screaming sense. It's like he couldn't sing as high as say, Freddie, but he could shout as high and in it would be in key. Dave Grohl is pretty similar funnily enough. The only songs I felt Kurt couldn't sound as good at live was the Nevermind stuff. Probably from all the vocal fx Vig used in production. It just never sounded right live. But live performances of the other 2 main albums (Bleach and In Utero) Kurt seemed to replicate very well.
