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Dave Learns The Old World - Warriors of Chaos VS Tomb Kings 

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Dave takes on the obvious mantle of the Warriors of Chaos in this tutorial battle report where Matthew teaches him how to play his first-ever game of The Old World.
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@miniwargaming
@miniwargaming 4 месяца назад
Massive thanks to Wayland Games for sponsoring this battle report! Grab your miniatures from them here: www.waylandgames.co.uk/ What do you all think of the Old World? What would you like to see us cover?
@IronDuke_xX
@IronDuke_xX 4 месяца назад
Dave should do a series of playing Warriors of Chaos badly, he should fight every other faction once!
@BBSoonerOU
@BBSoonerOU 4 месяца назад
I, too, employ the strategy of "Khorne forward and see what happens".
@be-noble3393
@be-noble3393 4 месяца назад
The MWG Dice light is messing with me. It looks like a graphic added to the background sometimes.
@PerfectJayDread
@PerfectJayDread 4 месяца назад
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything so beautiful. Been watching for over a decade. God bless you both!
@miniwargaming
@miniwargaming 4 месяца назад
Awe Thanks man! It’s been a while but we were due for a game.
@PerfectJayDread
@PerfectJayDread 4 месяца назад
@@miniwargaming I'm not sure if Dave remembers but he called out our group, "The Court of Manlaw" in one of his old QA videos and we still talk about it today haha. We are all lifetime vault members now. We hope to be with you always! God bless!
@vanillaicecream2385
@vanillaicecream2385 4 месяца назад
so sad dave has been demoted from valued friend to a mere "business partner" XD
@miniwargaming
@miniwargaming 4 месяца назад
One day, I shall regain Matt’s friendship and prove to him I’m more than just a mere business partner !!!
@Pinfeldorf
@Pinfeldorf 4 месяца назад
Maybe you need to get him a throne of skulls to sit upon.@@miniwargaming
@ninneplug
@ninneplug 4 месяца назад
20 years later: "I'm here today with...a random guy, I don't remember his name. Dave, I think? Anyway, we're trying out Warhammer 40k 33rd edition with standard 20,000 point starter armies-"
@franciscopina2899
@franciscopina2899 3 месяца назад
​@@ninneplug LMAO!! 🤣
@goreborn6045
@goreborn6045 4 месяца назад
DAVE BACK ON THE TABLE, AND MOST OF ALL, IN THE OLD WORLD! RAAAAAAHHHHHHH! NOW I REALLY WANNA BE THERE!!!❤🔥
@themanrightbehindyou
@themanrightbehindyou 4 месяца назад
The way i see break tests is simple: Both natural and modified roll would pass = Give Ground Both natural and modified roll would fail = Flee Mix of the two = Fall back in good order
@RadbotSC2
@RadbotSC2 4 месяца назад
Still dont get it. Or, to be more precise, why do we do it? Whats the differnce between give ground (you Go Back 2 Inches, the other one follows or Not, done) and Run in good Order? You run more Inches ? Seems and feels underwhelming - the chariots devastated the barbs...
@caspianbchalphy
@caspianbchalphy 4 месяца назад
I love seeing Dave and Matthew together. You can tell they are really good friends and care about each other
@gamingborger
@gamingborger 4 месяца назад
this was absolutely hilarious. and Dave's back at the table. they might be in their 40s, but they act like pups
@miniwargaming
@miniwargaming 4 месяца назад
Yup! You got it!
@franciscopina2899
@franciscopina2899 3 месяца назад
Perhaps the same could be said of all wargamers...
@VictoriaWargaming
@VictoriaWargaming 3 месяца назад
With your friends, age has no meaning :)
@Kenny833
@Kenny833 4 месяца назад
Love seeing you guys play together again.
@miniwargaming
@miniwargaming 4 месяца назад
Thanks Kenny!
@MissZencefil
@MissZencefil 4 месяца назад
56:10 an important detail to know for all veteran WFB players, overrun counts as a pursue move, thus at the end of the pursue move, you may test LD to reform. This wasn't in 8th edition, but the FAQ and Errata says that it's a pursue move and as pp 129 and 157, it allows Frenzy units to reform after overruning. If somebody else finds something against this, please inform us but this is how we understood it in our LGS
@villiamkarl-gustavlundberg5422
@villiamkarl-gustavlundberg5422 4 месяца назад
Are you allowed to move a unit within 1 inch of an impassable? Are you allowed to park a unit within 1 inch of an impassable?
@fragile113
@fragile113 4 месяца назад
Matt is such a good teacher.
@TheBE730
@TheBE730 4 месяца назад
Yeah more Matt, he talks so clear. Less Steve for Old world, he is so hard to follow because he mumbles a lot
@erikbraun473
@erikbraun473 4 месяца назад
Matthew teaching games is a genuine joy to watch. It's like watching a kid in a candy shop who just got told they can go ham.
@GrimDarkDude
@GrimDarkDude 4 месяца назад
This report got me pumped to play some old world! You made it seem so approachable and easy to understand . Thanks guys!
@Roequ
@Roequ 4 месяца назад
"I like how I'm learning, ... using your fear!" - Dave 2024
@Goryus
@Goryus 4 месяца назад
This was actually a fantastic tutorial!
@oukt237
@oukt237 4 месяца назад
"Expert...with a single game" and "as long as I can Khorne forward" 😂 I like these guys so much! Very good explanation how the game works. Great video!!!
@barryhercules7588
@barryhercules7588 4 месяца назад
Dave is such a legend
@miniwargaming
@miniwargaming 4 месяца назад
No YOU’RE A LEGEND! 🤗👊
@lonewolfandcub668
@lonewolfandcub668 4 месяца назад
​@@miniwargamingNo you are lol
@Obijan3
@Obijan3 4 месяца назад
Always love some Dave vs Matt !!!
@miniwargaming
@miniwargaming 4 месяца назад
Awe thanks man! It’s rare we battle each other but it’s super nostalgic for us when we do.
@equos5060
@equos5060 4 месяца назад
Blood for the Blood God? Not really. Skulls for the Skull Throne? Oh yeah!
@miniwargaming
@miniwargaming 4 месяца назад
Yes and yes! AndMORE SKULLS!!!!
@billiondollarclownfarm
@billiondollarclownfarm 4 месяца назад
i still cant believe the giant MWG dice logo isn't composited it blows my mind every time i see it
@TridentTrueHobbies
@TridentTrueHobbies 4 месяца назад
The multicamera switching between the 3 static positions, one overhead and then dynamic close ups works really well. Coupled with the lighting...if this is the new style going forward it's going to be great!
@adamjenkins9237
@adamjenkins9237 4 месяца назад
After seeing you guys are selling aos conversion trays, it's really making me consider trying old world.
@Onk3lM0
@Onk3lM0 4 месяца назад
I think Mat forgot that Tomb Kings (and all Undead for that matter) have Regeneration saves. And I also think you have to maximise the amount of models in base to base contact. So when those Chaos Warriors charged the Chariots they should have scooted over a bit and likely would have all 5 guys in btb.
@7nineofspades5
@7nineofspades5 4 месяца назад
Regeneration they definitely forgot. They got teh charge right though, there's no scoot over. If Dave had more movement for the charge, he should wheel further then move forward to get more in contact, but with the 8 he had they did it correctly.
@trajanfidelis1532
@trajanfidelis1532 4 месяца назад
Glad to see Dave back on the tabletop!
@miniwargaming
@miniwargaming 4 месяца назад
Thank you! I’m glad to be back!
@NisGaarde
@NisGaarde 4 месяца назад
Loving the Old World content. I ordered movement trays and they're on their way to Denmark now! Excited :D
@miniwargaming
@miniwargaming 4 месяца назад
Excited to send them to you! Thanks for your support! We’re happy the online store is back! It’s now the MWG Forge!
@NisGaarde
@NisGaarde 3 месяца назад
@@miniwargaming Got them now and they're just fantastic! :)
@gregseymour6043
@gregseymour6043 4 месяца назад
This is by far the best old world bat rep Ive seen
@Mungotastic
@Mungotastic 4 месяца назад
Glad to see you testing out the new studio setup!
@brettanderson3416
@brettanderson3416 4 месяца назад
I like this "Dave learns a game with zero prior knowledge" content. Very entertaining.
@miniwargaming
@miniwargaming 4 месяца назад
Excellent!!! Then we shall make more!
@gooddocwatson5459
@gooddocwatson5459 4 месяца назад
Love the multiple cameras and seeing Dave back on the table! Hope to see more in the future!
@robdrew376
@robdrew376 4 месяца назад
This was a really good walkthrough/tutorial! Having real questions from someone who knows gaming but not these specific rules made it much more helpful for those of us trying to pick up the flow of the game, and it's intricacies. Two people who both understand it all makes it much easier for them to skip over little fiddly bits without explanation.
@Spandau-Filet
@Spandau-Filet 4 месяца назад
“Forget everything I’ve sa..” “DONE!” Haha
@SquidFisT44
@SquidFisT44 4 месяца назад
This game was so fun to watch, love the Matt and Dave combo game!
@nappopsOG
@nappopsOG 4 месяца назад
This was really pleasant to watch. Just some dudes enjoying a new game with a giant yelling corrections at them.
@warkatwargaming2358
@warkatwargaming2358 4 месяца назад
Got my first 750pt game tonight so this could not have come at a better time
@warkatwargaming2358
@warkatwargaming2358 4 месяца назад
So...not that anyone cares.... but finished the game. Was against Wood Elves...Tomb Kings with Archers are a surprisingly hard counter against the unarmoured pointy ears... as no negatives to shooting...easy access to reroll 1s ... mean Tomb King Archers are better than Wood Elves. Chariots are brutal aswell. Love this game
@fateweaver9844
@fateweaver9844 4 месяца назад
​@@warkatwargaming2358TOW is so unbalanced at lower points.
@joelburger9226
@joelburger9226 4 месяца назад
Thank you, I have an old dusty WHFB army and this helps
@Weifuknigt
@Weifuknigt 3 месяца назад
The chemistry is hilarious! Make more vids together please.
@o0krazyboris0o
@o0krazyboris0o 4 месяца назад
Just started watching the vid and paused after like two minutes to say the new camera angles are fantastic! Ive been a fan of MWG for a longish time, and its great to see the faces of the voices more frequently, alongside the lovely rolling screens of warriors!
@elbentzo
@elbentzo 4 месяца назад
This is like the 4th time MWG make a video where they try to explain combat resolution and they make a simple thing sound SO FRIGGING COMPLICATED. Seriously guys. Three tiers of success: Roll is *over* leadership = worst result. You break. Roll is *equal* *or* *under* your leadership minus the margin you lost by = best result, you give 2 inches. Roll is *between* your leadership and your leadership minus the margin you lost by = fall back in good order. That's it. Takes 20 seconds to explain and I'm yet to meet a single person who didn't reply with ``gotcha, no problem".
@garbagecan755
@garbagecan755 4 месяца назад
"Hey you remember normal leadership checks?" "Yeah?" "First you look at it unmodified to see if you break and flee. Then if you succeed modify it and if you still succeed you give ground and if you fail you fall back."
@dex9789
@dex9789 2 месяца назад
Have you calmed down yet?
@Feuerkelch
@Feuerkelch 4 месяца назад
Very entertaining How to Play, good job! One note to the attacks of the chaos warriors at 48:46 : Ensorcelled Weapons only applies for models with a singular hand weapon. There is a note underneath the special rules text clarifying this. The same goes for some other special rules like the beastmen Foe Render.
@frankyuengling8074
@frankyuengling8074 4 месяца назад
That is the greatest battle report i have ever seen. The chemistry and camaraderie is excellent.
@Tartersauce101
@Tartersauce101 4 месяца назад
I feel like that was the most convoluted explanation of combat resolution I've heard 😅
@Dr.G.Monamie749
@Dr.G.Monamie749 3 месяца назад
lol... great video! When I looked up from my painting at the point of "your cultist equivalent"..."eeeerr"..."I I I don't know what i'm saying!" with the head shake made me put down my paint brush and just watch the oncoming entertainment :-).
@jucasromano8555
@jucasromano8555 3 месяца назад
Great guys!!! Funny, complete and clear rules explaining. Great thanks to both of you!! 🎉
@trippward
@trippward 4 месяца назад
0:05 in and Dave with the "uhh.." 😂 immediate like button smash
@ms09su
@ms09su 4 месяца назад
This was another step to get back into warhammer. Thank you for this it answered so many questions. Biggest request. Subtitles for people without a mic. I would love to see fancy text pop up as THE VOICE OF STEVE!
@Ric1b
@Ric1b 4 месяца назад
Great learning game guys! As a note, unless the Tomb Kings have a special rule of some kind, a wizard can only ever replace one single spell with either the lore signature spell, or a signature spell from their own army lore. I think the Liche Priest had two spells from the lore of Nehakara here? That would not be possible.
@miniwargaming
@miniwargaming 4 месяца назад
Yup, I caught that mid game and changed it.
@karlthompsonpwns
@karlthompsonpwns 4 месяца назад
For the combat resolution, get a 12" ruler. Get a die, then place it next to the number that is the units leadership. Next, roll the units leadership test, place a die next to that number on the ruler. If it is higher, the unit breaks. If it is lower, add the combat resolution. If it is now higher, fall back in good order. If lower, give ground.
@kempo79
@kempo79 4 месяца назад
All chaos warriors have chaos armor, so Dave should have all those ward saves.
@jolamber
@jolamber 4 месяца назад
They actually don't in old world. Chaos armor is only on the elite troops and characters
@Voidling_System
@Voidling_System 3 месяца назад
I love this channel because it makes me feel better for going "Oh I forgot my most important rule of the game" every battle
@Lordvader1212
@Lordvader1212 4 месяца назад
Fantastic video! Really helped me understand the rules better
@RiverRibble
@RiverRibble 3 месяца назад
This is awesome, nice one!
@themilkbaron8290
@themilkbaron8290 4 месяца назад
I love this setup, y’all should record all your batreps like this if you can!
@IronDuke_xX
@IronDuke_xX 4 месяца назад
Did I see those chariot spearmen negate Marauder saves without activating armor bane? Around the 30-minute mark. Either way really fun to watch! Huge nostalgia for the early days of MWG on YT, seeing Matt and Dave battle.
@MickDick
@MickDick 4 месяца назад
That was very entertaining. Please more old world with Dave
@twistedphoenix
@twistedphoenix 4 месяца назад
You two are MWG, everyone else is fun. but watching you two play is the core of what you guys have had going for years. It's refreshing to see it again
@AustenKime
@AustenKime 4 месяца назад
Fantastic video - as a Skaven/Goblin/Dwarf player I didn't have a dog in this fight, but with that said "look how they massacred my boy 😢"
@alexcope1186
@alexcope1186 4 месяца назад
The fixed camera angles are great! I haven't seen that from MWG before
@editor2766
@editor2766 4 месяца назад
So much fun watching Dave Khorne forward again!
@Morvox
@Morvox 4 месяца назад
I love how naturally these types of videos come across
@bc8808
@bc8808 4 месяца назад
I love the new multiple camera format. That being said, I wouldn't hate for there to be a miniwar gaming "retro" episode filmed on handcams in the future
@Earthenfist
@Earthenfist 4 месяца назад
A quick note- the Scorpion's base is supposed to be sideways. It's longer along the front than the side.
@Materia-Hunter
@Materia-Hunter 4 месяца назад
Informative and entertaining! Thanks y'all!
@cameron.c5626
@cameron.c5626 4 месяца назад
Really loved this style of Battle Report. Much prefer this style than the previous hand held style thinks it feels better when you can see both people at the same time no idea why but it does. Keep up the fantastic job you guys.
@goth84
@goth84 4 месяца назад
Lets go DAAAAVVEE!!
@miniwargaming
@miniwargaming 4 месяца назад
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!
@Mikeygizmodude1
@Mikeygizmodude1 3 месяца назад
i love how at the start of Dave's turn 3 Adam made the book magically disappear (1:15:35)
@davidstewart5447
@davidstewart5447 4 месяца назад
Brilliant video! Have a good weekend. How have the new chaos warriors ranked up on your trays? Love the std models but have heard ranking up is a problem.
@sahaynam6470
@sahaynam6470 4 месяца назад
Was wondering if Dave was still around! Great to see him in this video, playing some fantasy.
@palwinderdhillon8242
@palwinderdhillon8242 4 месяца назад
The People's Scoprion - The most electrifying construct in tabletop entertainment.
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 3 месяца назад
"Learn one. Do one. Teach one." This is how the Olde Worlde spreads its shadow.
@casualgaming2351
@casualgaming2351 4 месяца назад
tthat was thze most convoluted version of telling someone how combat res work i have every seen...and its was hilarious XD
@stepanpekar6419
@stepanpekar6419 4 месяца назад
No Gaze of the Gods during WoCh command phase ? =)
@TomDeTomDeTom
@TomDeTomDeTom 4 месяца назад
Great video!
@IronDuke_xX
@IronDuke_xX 4 месяца назад
Chaos lords everywhere looking up from their skull-cups, Dave is back!
@LinuxNavigator
@LinuxNavigator 4 месяца назад
Great video, got be buying back into kings of war.
@kravernar
@kravernar 4 месяца назад
Dave dosent care about the rules and shennanigans, all he wants is to charge and collect skulls! Its fun to see every time!!! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!
@jolamber
@jolamber 4 месяца назад
Awesome
@casualnerd8139
@casualnerd8139 3 месяца назад
Smaller games with Tomb Kings are really a struggle to build a list. Technically, you need a Prince and a Priest, so the list played is not legal... but in low point ranges, that really becomes a lot of points in characters
@adriangatt4374
@adriangatt4374 4 месяца назад
I have a question for dispel the rule book says that it has to exceed the casting value but the quick reference says that it has to equal it. Which one is correct? Also fantastic as always been watching since I was a teen now am almost 40 keep it up :)!
@christopherclayton5500
@christopherclayton5500 4 месяца назад
With regard to wheeling, I can't see anything that indicates you use the arc length for distance traveled rather than the chord length (the latter being significantly easier to measure).
@Gelthon
@Gelthon 4 месяца назад
That’s right.
@psmiddy123models7
@psmiddy123models7 3 месяца назад
More!!
@wongogwaldock7689
@wongogwaldock7689 2 месяца назад
old world it’s actually pretty straightforward, then I’m like so much is going on I’m lost 🤣
@ethanhunstiger4868
@ethanhunstiger4868 4 месяца назад
What do you guys think of allowing wizards to take the mark of khorne, sacrificing their spell casting to get bonuses to dispelling?
@benharrison8855
@benharrison8855 4 месяца назад
I miss the banter batreps.
@builtforsins
@builtforsins 4 месяца назад
Fun and informative game
@villiamkarl-gustavlundberg5422
@villiamkarl-gustavlundberg5422 4 месяца назад
Is there a limit to: how close a unit is alloweed to end its turn next to a terrain piece?
@TvBvM
@TvBvM 4 месяца назад
Always forgetting about regeneration xD Fight with the Chaos Ogres for example
@lestrike2707
@lestrike2707 4 месяца назад
Using Theridons as chaos Ogres is an awesome idea!
@VelcroSnake93
@VelcroSnake93 4 месяца назад
Quickly! Push blocks of miniatures at each other and roll dice until all the miniatures disappear! Exciting!
@justinbarnes8834
@justinbarnes8834 3 месяца назад
Shooting in first round, skelly archers have volley fire so instead of only 1st rank (5) should have been 1st and half of each rank behind (3 round up) to give a total of 8 not 5.
@00Kuja00
@00Kuja00 4 месяца назад
As a VC player I have made that mistake a few times, having zombies messing up a good combat for elite units. ^^*
@harrumphreys4841
@harrumphreys4841 4 месяца назад
Oh man, back in WHFB that was me. I’d charge in zombies that I had raised, gifting my elf opponent bodies to convert into ripe CR. Whooops!
@ChazCharlie1
@ChazCharlie1 4 месяца назад
What models are the minotaurs proxying as ogres? They look great but I can't find them online or in the warhammer webstore
@Scarycrow89
@Scarycrow89 3 месяца назад
Ogroids Theridons, new race of Age of Sigmar for Slaves to Darkness. (their real name is the Goroas but in the lore they hate being called "ogres/ogroids/minotaurs")
@ChazCharlie1
@ChazCharlie1 3 месяца назад
@Scarycrow89 thank you. By chance I've just bought some when I got the Chaos Battleforce box
@verysilentmouse
@verysilentmouse 4 месяца назад
I pivoted away from gw products for various gw reasons and and stopped watching various gw content I'm back for the old world and its great to see Dave and Matt and all their shenanigans
@superork26
@superork26 4 месяца назад
very nice batrep, but i think you forgot about the charitos "first charge" special rule at minute 38
@superork26
@superork26 4 месяца назад
Also, spoilers Matt really learned the hard way that sending a damage dealer like the tomb scorpion into an ongoing combat with a skelly blob is mostly a bad idea - they just arent build to deal with that kind of combat resolution. It would have been fine if it was on its own. Thats something relly counterintuitive about undead.
@Bog_Dog
@Bog_Dog 4 месяца назад
I know it was sort of jokey but the challenge against the lich priest might have been a good idea as he got 4 overkill which then get slapped on the ushabti..
@jamescorbett8291
@jamescorbett8291 4 месяца назад
I feel like this is a boxing match... And the rules and everything are being explained in the beginning... But dave is just bouncing on his toes thinking "man... i CANT WAIT TO PUNCH SOMONE"
@jolamber
@jolamber 4 месяца назад
Dave's chaos warriors could of reformed on that overrun
@downtobaker2676
@downtobaker2676 4 месяца назад
Rules question: do Flying Models with Lumbering pivot 90° for free while marching, i.e., my Behemot Dragon who's flight at his max range? Thanks
@Gamecapturevideo
@Gamecapturevideo 4 месяца назад
Took 0:35 seconds, but finally we hear Dave say he likes the devil. In the details!
@AnHourOfWolves
@AnHourOfWolves 4 месяца назад
You guys are not playing Linehammer yet?!? :) Thanks for posting. Enjoyed it.
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