@Adam Massacre are you guys for real ? just because of the meme you are shitting on his entire legacy. He was a great drummer in the early days in the first 3 albums he was flawless. His problem was that he just never evolved with time.
I like to imagine that there is a universe where we all got Megallica and Metadeth instead. A universe where Lars can drum, Dave doesn't want to fight, and James isn't a bird.
I've been doing the same thing with songs and names for the last 20 years and I get a hilarious laugh out of it sometimes. Don Jenver..,Myran Aiden..,Pelvis Ressly and Mave DustStain. 😆😃
I’m a Metallica fan and a Megadeth fan. I have read lots of Metallica biographies and what not. I totally believe Dave about all of this. They were like children back in the day. They didn’t start growing up for real until the 2000s. Jason Newsted is such a nice guy from every thing I have read or seen about him. They treated him like absolute dirt too.
They are real scumbags for how much they bullied and disrespected Mr Newsted for so many years just because he was not Cliff.. I'm sure if he'd still been around Cliff would have left the band in disgust at them if he'd seen how bad they treated a good hearted guy
The truth is, getting out of Metallica was probably the best thing that ever happened to him. He created his own band, made his own name for himself. It was destiny.
@@HighFalutinTootin No doubt. Even James Hetfield said, they all drink crazy. But Dave Mustang was the worst. And from what James Hetfield says The biggest problem with Dave Mustaine was that you either get the best guitarist in the world or the worst. You never knew which one. So the only way they could proceed forward with the people that wanted to work with them was to replace him. Something tells me if it wasn’t for the people, and I forget their names, that we wanted them to get rid of him they either would not of done it would not have done it for a long time. Regardless of how Dave Mustaine and Lars Ulrich get along.
@@blackfreethinker2525 hey man listen when Ted wasn't sure if Bill was gonna make it back he asked for his MegaDeath collection if he died not the Metallica collection that's all the evidence i needed to see/hear. Wild Stallions Rule!!
Much of their success was absolutely due to Dave & Cliff. They did Dave wrongful but we got Megadeth from it. He took lemons & outperformed James. Metallica has 4 great albums and after that.. it's a mixed bag of hot turds. The black album is when Metallica changed to the worst. I will say that the "I Dissappear" single from Mission Impossible II was pretty good, but not great. But other than that.. Metallica is weak sauce. Especially now days.
@@parisprince1786 Absolutely. After the first 4-5 albums.. Metallica went down hill. Fast. At least Megadeth put out some good albums in the 90's - 00's. Not to say that Megadeth doesn't have some crappy albums, but they have way more better albums than Metallica. So yes, he out performed
@DrAdams-fx6gy Gary busy was in a motorcycle accident where he got a traumatic brain injury. You can be brilliant get hit in the head and be Gary busy!
agreed but if James is saying that it was Dave who kicked his dog and well 3 other bandmates agreed to kick Dave out, which person do you think is lying?
One of Mustaine's best. Flawlessly performs classics like "James Kicked My Dog" and "Lars is a Bad Drummer" while also including deep cuts like "Those Guys Aren't Birds." Really a top notch interview.
What’s odd is post-Dave, Metallica has been James, Lars, Kirk, and 3 bass players. Megadeth has been a revolving door with Dave hiring and firing members left and right. And Dave will never forgive them for firing him.
I don’t really believe it’s because of that. He really just hires and fires people to bring in new talent with their own song writing skills and play style. He really just does it for the difference in sound for upcoming music I guess. It’s Dave’s band so he prob just wants new creativity.
@@MrColtrainJones 3 Bass players. He said "post-Dave". McGovney was replace by Cliff before Dave was fired so there have been 3 bass players post-Dave.
@@russkate88 OK so it was 16 years ago don’t take something 16 years ago and project it into a comment as if he just said it as soon as saw it lol and also keep in mind you’re talking about someone who doesn’t even know you exist it has accomplished things greater than you ever have dreamed of… he’s clearly a very focused and determined person .
@@MrManio1000 He's absolutely for real. James and Lars kicked him out of Metallica and he was extremely bitter about it for a long, long time. Nowadays, he's cool with James, but I think he's still indifferent to Lars. All three of them were young, alcoholic thugs. They were all reportedly insufferable most of the time.
Say what you want about Megadeth and Metallica, but everybody agrees which band had the best lead guitarist. Don't believe me? Go to any guitarist and say "Tornado of Souls solo."
@@StGroovy I'm sure every guitarist agrees. The thing is, not every music fan is a musician. A lot of people probably gloss over guitar skills etc. and just go for whatever sounds good to them (or what is more accessible).
youll respect him even more when you realize megadeth continues to make really good music. i love both bands but wake me up when met makes their first thrash album since justice.
I believe Dave. He tells it like it is. The stories of Metallica taunting Jason are disrespectful. Jason is an emotionally strong guy to put up with their antics. God bless him and Dave for being so humble. Great musicians that left their mark on musical world.
The problem people have with highly intelligent, confident people, is that they tend to be honest about both their strengths and their weaknesses. Dave is aware of his role in Metallica, and what he said in this video is just facts.
I was fortunate to party with the original Megadeth ( Killing is my business, and business is good ) after the show where Flotsam and Jetsom opened in Phoenix AZ. During the show me and my friends were invited to Flotsams pad for an after party. They said Megadeth was planning on going. We went. Hung out with all of Flotsam except Jason. We were having a great time. Then Jason showed up with his girlfriend. Shortly after, a knock on the door. It was Megadeth. Everyone cheered. Dave came in first. We hung out with Dave. He was so chill. He was just so easy-going and friendly with everyone.
@@neildmonte8786 - In all fairness, James really isn't all that good of a singer if you compare him to someone like Geoff Tate for example. In that case, most people would say James totally sucks ass by comparison.
I was watching the Some Kind of Monster documentary with Lars and Dave. And even Lars was tearing up because he started to realize how they abandoned Dave. Because all he had was his Mom, him and James.
You are correct because two of my main influences playing guitar even though I've went way past those days...are And justice for all and Rust in peace. Personally Chuck from Death wrote better songs and had better leads and lyrics than either band...and he was one of many that topped these giants at the time. Still today I'd put Chuck up against Dave or James as the better frontman.
How could he be "still salty" when this clip is from 2008? This is 14 years old, so I seriously doubt it. A lot has happened since then, including Metallica not even writing a half-way decent song for about 30 years.
@@ShadovvV you wrote a whole ass essay for a comment that wasn't meant to be taken seriously and managed to badmouth metallica while at it. what did i expect from a megadeth fan
@@RandomPerson-ui3xv I'm waiting for the classic comment that everything Megadeth done is better than anything Metallica ever done and Mustaine wrote all Metallica's greatest material
i mean i think megadeth is better but that is no reason to trash metallica and its fans. that goes both ways. "what did i expect from a megadeth fan" was a dumb remark
I've always thought that Dave leaving Metallica was a good thing. Because without Megadeth, there would be no Peace Sells, Holy Wars or Hanger 18 and a so many other great songs that could never happen in Metallica.
It also made an amazing story, I love the fact that Dave came back with a vengeance forming his own band Megadeth. He was out of control and probably deserved to get fired, but still redeemed himself by having a ton of success and huge impact on the culture of Heavy Metal
Perfectionists usually are. That's not to say his music is perfect (we're talking about art afterall), but I bet it's as close to his idea of perfect at the time it was recorded. I've heard it said before that Megadeth = "Dave Mustaine and his hired guns". I agree.
he on meth , well hes my dealer to . got some good shit he calls .....wait for it..MEGAMETH !!!! its ok i guess, he talks to marty sometimes but other than that you never know, but fact is i probably only one on dope,and Mr.Bean
Anyone that’s been in any hard working band for long enough, realizes that arguments and even the occasional fistfight amongst members are really not that uncommon and in fact kind of goes with the territory.
Ironic considering I believe (I read his book) he was currently in the throes of a prescription pill addiction during this interview. He does seem quite hyper. He mentions in the full interview maybe moving back to california because his wife was going to divorce him. But he saved it and are still together.
Yep. He’s not grabbing this out of thin air, you can tell by the flow which he has that what he’s saying is true. Even if it’s told through his own filter you can be sure that he’s not making it up and I’d trust him over Lars who I’ve never gotten a good impression of. Dave has great flow in his story telling, this was amusing to watch.
Every generation always hates the next gens society. My grandfather hated my dad listening to Kiss and Motley Crue. My father hated me listening to Dying Fetus and Deicide. Get over it
@@MattHadderThe difference is Kiss and Motley Crue were blazing trails in their hay day. Nobody knows wtf Dying Fetus is lmao you should get shit for listening to that.
I think he's being 100% honest as well . His problem has always been he never holds firm .. on his statements . Today he would probably say Lars is a good ! drummer , and get offended if anyone said he wasn't . He did the same type of thing on Marty F. and Al Pitrelli . Said Al was a better guitarist than Marty , and would have picked him if they had both tried out the same day . Then later said Al was a good "temporary" replacement but certainly no Marty !! Mustaine goes all over the place with his statements .
Dave Mustaine openly loves many things...his wife, his daughter, his dog, his guitar collection. He loves making wine. He loves to hold small shows and play for his closest friends and family. He loves making hard hitting, well thought out, metal tunes that will be relevant for decades to come, something Metallica quit doing years ago. Dave isn't on a huge ego trip. He's rather humble, especially considering his talent. No, the members of Metallica, namely Lars, but sometimes James, have allowed their over inflated to egos run amok. At least twice they've selfishly and in a slimy and cowardly way, fired people from the band who were talented, loyal, and integral parts of the band. That kind of karma will right itself eventually.
"Fired".. from what was (at that time) considered to be nothing short of a garage band, which would be the equivalent to losing your job as a garage sale attendant.
@@ShadovvV well if you put it like that you make it seem like he did nothing for metallica, i think mustard stain is a prick but he helped them write kill em all but didnt give them their whole success like he portrays it.
Yeah he showed them. By grossing about seven and a half percent of the revenue that Metallica has. They could have paid off one of their Roadies with that
@@jamesmiller5331 Ah, yes, everybody knows that quality is determined by tickets and units shipped. Madonna's first LP was released the same month as Kill 'Em All and sold 10,000,000 to their 60,000. Therefore, she's better than Metallica!
@James Miller but let’s ignore the fact that Metallica still used his music right up into their third album long after he was kicked out lol. I am a huge Metallica fan but damn you Metallica fans that bring these weak arguments make me laugh out loud
@@thatonemetalhead4176 Probably shouldn't bring it to rehearsal then, especially if you describe it as an alligator with teeth that's supposed to be at home protecting your weed stash when you're away.
As an alcoholic I can't imagine being in a situation like that while drinking all day. I'm single with no family or friends, so I can get away with being a functioning addict, but major props to all these guys.
This was after “some kind of monster” so Dave was super salty in this particular interview. He’s usually not this angry when talking about Metallicas past He was pissed at the way Lars “edited” their interview with the therapist
@@smkxodnwbwkdns8369 lol you don’t think that “interview” was clipped??? They had a least an hour long conversation and the movie shows a 5-minute clip of what Lars selected. Which makes Dave appear weak. He showed the most vulnerable parts of a sincere conversation.
@@brianvos6394 Lars had nothing to do with the editing of the film. They hired a team of professional filmmakers to create a movie with the hours and hours of footage. You Lars haters are f’ing nuts and think he controls everything and malicious; he doesn’t and isn’t.
Maybe Lars didn’t do the “editing” but whoever did it pissed Dave off. Because from his point of view it took the context away from the conversation with the therapist and made Dave appear weak. This is why he’s pissed In this particular interview. I’m not a Lars hater…but don’t act like he’s innocent either. Many people including James Hetfield have reported Lars to be a total dick and control freak at times
If anyone hurt my dog I would fight them as well. Great interview. I feel like Dave is a better dude than media and Metallica documentaries make him out to be. He is a bigger legend than if he would have stayed in Metallica for sure.
Dave is a prick. Lol. Why do you think the band is so often called Megadave? Cause he has one of the biggest egos in the business. Nobody can stand to work with him long enough to stick around. It's just a revolving door of band members through the years. If they didn't kick Dave out when they did... we might not have either band. They might have just fallen apart completely and the face of metal would be completely different. All because Dave is a douche. Great guitarist. Great song writer. Used diaper of a person.
Let's not forget, Dave booted Nick Menza from the band two days after having surgery. OVER THE PHONE. Nick said something along the lines of "You can't fire me man... this is my band, too". Dave said "No... this is my band and this is what's happening". So let Dave bitch and moan all he wants about being fired from Metallica for being a scum bag. He's gonna cry about it for the rest of his life. But he's fired guys from Megadeth for no reason at all. Megadeth is his solo project. He's never seen it as a collaborative effort. His monster ego would never allow it. He would have eaten Metallica alive if they hadn't made the smartest decision they ever made when they got rid of him.
@@rubemortenson1724 all I care about is who kicked the dog lol. I don’t listen to either I just have been familiarized with them growing up. I listened to Metallica when I was 14. Bunch of boomer ego maniacs if you ask me
@@mezzb I get what you are saying except who is the stupid drunk and who’s the violent drunk out of the two in your reference? I am guessing you are saying Dave the stupid one and James the violent one but I am not sure if that’s what you meant
Funny how he bashes on Lars, but Lars has nothing but good things to say about him. And I don’t believe the kicking dog story. Dave just looks for whatever to play victim.
Thing is, when you listen to him talk it just feels raw, real and truthful. When you listen to the tallica guys a lot of it sounds very commercial, rehearsed and superficial.
@@thefreedomguyuk Ask a 90s hard rock label "Business is booming!" (get it? Because of Metallica destroying their own genre and scene with their 1991 album..?)
I don't know if there are any poker fans here. But this popped on my feed yesterday and while watching it, it hit me... Now one thing I want to see before I die is Dave Mustaine interview Phil Hellmuth for an hour. I mean there is absolutely everything. The face, the voice, the whining, the bragging. It actually is quite fascinating. Its like a zero budget deep fake with a wig.
No. It's a stupid lie that people who don't understand drumming tell. Mike Portnoy and Dave Lombardo agree that Lars is a great drummer, so why are you taking the word of an imbittered crackhead?
That depends on what you define as "good". If writing some of the greatest and most memorable drum arrangements in the history of heavy music and inspiring some of the best drummers to start playing means you're a terrible drummer, then so be it.
this is the happiest ive ever seen dave mustaine in an interview. It always makes me laugh how Dave never refers to Ron as Ron dave only calls him "the bass player" lol
Metallica grew and evolved, Dave got stuck in a sound that is now very dated, don't get me wrong all the Deth from the 80's and 90's I love, even Super Collider was really good, but last album just lost me, that and Gears of Bore!
Such an untrue statement. So nobody should evolved , always stick to what you are when you hit 20 years of age, forever. Maybe that's the problem with society these days: adults who keep on acting like teenagers...while Metallica evolved. That's why I can't stand AC- DC BTW, if ever there is a band that never reinvented itself there they are, yet people are crazy about them; I don't get it my friend.
I wish Dave was able to find acceptance and peace about the whole situation sooner. He is a really good dude (minus the alcohol of course) and it always hurt my heart seeing how much it hurt him. Beyond Metallica, he still created some of the most amazing, energetic, and enduring metal out there. The genre wouldn’t be complete without his contributions.
But can you blame him? Imagine being woken up and the first thing they tell you is “you’re out of the band“. You’re still disorientated from waking up earlier than you should, and they say that. To make matters worse, they give him 30 minutes to grab his gear so that they can take him to the bus station which is going to take him back to California. That’s a pretty shitty way to do that to someone.
I think you missed the point of that comment. Birds will feed their young by putting food that they've chewed into their mouths. Which is what James and Lars did to each other. Normal for birds, weird for humans. They were acting like birds. Make sense?
@@roberts3741 I know man I was just joking around lmao. I didn't actually think they were birds but the way Dave said it was like he was clearing the air
There’s not many people that can be afforded the right to claim that a band is who they are because of them, but it’s 100% true with Dave. Hell, all of thrash sounds the way it does because of him and Exodus.
I respectfully disagree. I personally love Ride the Lightening but they made their best and biggest albums after his exit so idk if you can claim that he made them. Biggest metal albums of all time btw.
@@TheCrainmetallica after ride the lightning sucks 😂 you come here saying that enter sandman is a great song? it sucks. 😂 megadeth was good back with the classic line up, not anymore, the best thing metallica has now is robert trujillo
@@leredditcommander8208 I mean they sold more albums after his departure and the black album is in the top 5 greatest selling metal albums of all time(Megadeth isn't in the top 10 btw lol) so I think they're doing alright homie.
@@TheCrainMetallica got big because they always said they'd never sell-out, do radio or TV. That's how they got their millions of loyal fans. Once Cliff died they sucked Bon Jovi bubble-gum dk just like the Chili Peppers, sold out all the fans that put them on the map, & became rancid cheeze purveyors, as there's big money in it! I saw them '86, '89, & Black bs album/tour & I was done because Metallica was done!
Outside of James, no other band member from the original line up could have left Metallica and formed another band anywhere near as successful as Megadeth. That's a testament to Mustaine's talent. There's an argument to be made for Cliff, but he would have probably been a very high in demand studio musician.
During Master/ Justice he seemed to be more technically proficient (and was quite good imo) than he was afterwards… like he if he got worse instead of better!
You do have to account for the fact that Lars is almost 60 years old. Is he as good as he used to be? No. Does he make mistakes? Sometimes. But he's far from horrendous.
I think James and Lars knew if Mustaine stayed in the band they wouldn’t have had total control over everything and there wasn’t enough room for 3 big personalities. It would have been nonstop fighting all the time. I’ve played in multiple bands and it is very hard to make it work and last, because there’s always part of group that doesn’t like each other.
Actually, that's what I also think everything was about. Seems to me James saw a big competition in Dave, which is understandable, as there can only be one alpha male in any group) And Dave's success with Megadeth proves it.
@@iconstructme From what Dave said in his book it was mostly Lars and management that wanted him gone. James was very emotional when Dave left and seemed to not want him to go. Lars even said in Some Kind Of Monster that he felt that when Dave was in Metallica that he couldn’t relate to the macho alpha male environment that Dave and James had created and was jealous of their friendship. Dave also said in his book that after he was kicked out Lars went around to everyone they knew and said that Dave sucked at guitar and didn’t help write any songs. Lars was jealous of Dave. Ron even said Lars ruined him and James friendship. James and Ron were friends before Lars was even in the picture.
I love Dave and I believe everything he said!! I know a lot have but just in case you haven't, seeing Megadeth in person is literally bucket list material! The first time I saw them live my jaw was on the floor because of their instrument and vocals! Dave's voice live blew my mind!!
And not all people can handle fame equally, especially when it continues for so long. I respect your decision and thanks for helping to make one of the most hisorical contributions to music ever!
Dave helped Metallica when they began and his songs/songwriting we're important to them when first formed. but I'd argue their success is because of what came immediately after. ride the lightning and master of puppets is what actually gave them metallica true success.
@@neildmonte8786 from what I understand the only thing he had help with on ride the lightning was the main riff (or one of the core riffs in the song, can't remember if it was specifically the main one or not)
Bro, what made Metallica a great band was the fact that they signed a contract, in that period, Mustaine was the real frontman, the star in the stage, and the main songwriter and owner of most of the half of material the band had.
WoW I've been a Metallica fan since 86 and Megadeth fan since 88, never heard these stories tell 2022!!! pretty cool Dave's giving up some pretty heavy dirt!! Metallica!!!
Dave is a straight up guy and he came clean about all that stuff ! Can't say he is a saint, he really doesn't think so himself, but he is honest! You can hear it in his voice! I give him that!
@@keithmorgan1170 I read an interview where Vinny Paul said the best of Lars Ulrich was in Master of Puppets and Justice for All. After that his drumming lacked rudimentary skills and his timing was worse than a Meshuggah song.
