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In Episode 2 of Marshall Matters, Winston speaks with David Baddiel about his book, Jews Don’t Count, writing the alternative national anthem 'Three Lions', and his recent stand up show 'Trolls - Not The Dolls'.
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@Gozzillacia
@Gozzillacia 2 года назад
Racism as experienced is such a weird thing. As a Scot, who moved to London in my twenties, and lived there for 25 years, I experienced quite a bit of racism: a whole lot of black on white racism - some violent. Some specifically black anti-Semitism. And one very nasty incident of a group of young Jewish boys attacking a "Jews for Jesus" man (on Hampstead Hight Street), involved a lot of spitting. I also experienced a pretty regular amount of anti-Scottish racism (not moaning -- did it bother me - not really). The worst incident of racism I ever witnessed, again in North London, was seeing a standard, "you spilled my pint" incident between a Scottish lad and an English lad, turn almost instantly into a gang of English lads kicking the shit out of the Scots lad as he lay on the floor, the circle kicking this poor lad getting bigger with the encouragement to the crowd to join in being "it's a sweaty." I had no connection with his Scottish lad. I just happened to be in the same pub. Seeing the instant explosion of animosity towards my fellow Scot (the sweaty) I kept my mouth shut. I guess what I find odd about the progressive's model of racism is that it's all "white on black/brown -- in a system of whiteness." Empirically - what I saw, in 25 years, was almost no white on black racism. And a whole lot of anti-Scottish racism - well I would it happened to me. I guess what I am saying is racism - as represented by the BBC - the Labour party - the popularized conception we are fed -- bore little relation to my experience. My "lived experience" as the progressive say. On the Y word turning it into another N word, I think that would be a big mistake -- as long as the N word is fetishized by blacks there will be a barrier between white and black -- Jews shouldn't make that mistake.
@errolkim1334
@errolkim1334 2 года назад
Yeah but David got old and needs the money. Don't you get this?
@marielaveau8761
@marielaveau8761 2 года назад
Having read your story you appear to be a very brave and compassionate guy.
@63mckenzie
@63mckenzie 2 года назад
Last time I was in England, a young black kid told me to F** k off back to Scotland'
@blackhawk8920
@blackhawk8920 2 года назад
the closes to n word is the k word.
@nidgemorphie4316
@nidgemorphie4316 2 года назад
This guy is the biggest tart in comedy, he is anti-comedy and is absolutely riddled with woke.
@63mckenzie
@63mckenzie 2 года назад
I lost all respect for Baddiel when he did that Holocaust denier programme where he tried to link Brexit voters and deniers.
@paps69shed
@paps69shed 2 года назад
I don't know if it's just because I live in the northeast of England? But, I've never actually heard any anti-Semitism? I'm 46 and remember racism against Pakistanis and other minorities but have never to my mind witnessed any hateful remarks towards Jews?
@chriskasatka2095
@chriskasatka2095 2 года назад
"This is the worst kind of discrimination: The kind against me!"
@chesterdonnelly1212
@chesterdonnelly1212 2 года назад
I don't necessarily agree that there aren't many British Jewish comedians or comedy shows. Stephen Fry? Friday Night Dinner? Simon Amstell? Ben Elton? Matt Lucas? Alexi Sayle? I'm sure there are a lot more than that.
@hurrichad8871
@hurrichad8871 2 года назад
all of which pretended to be white racists at some point, in order to make whites look bad
@swax7124
@swax7124 2 года назад
and all of which got there on their own back, not in the name of something
@apollomemories7399
@apollomemories7399 2 года назад
@@swax7124 mmm. perhaps some of them in the name of the new alternative comedy push, regardless of whether they were any good or not.
@apollomemories7399
@apollomemories7399 2 года назад
And I don't like any of them at all.
@chesterdonnelly1212
@chesterdonnelly1212 2 года назад
@@apollomemories7399 alternative comedy basically is Jewish comedy, as opposed to working man's club comedy which is known to have racist and sexist jokes.
@gitfoad8032
@gitfoad8032 2 года назад
I always think of wall-to-wall coverage a 'blindspot'.
@edwardkenworthy7013
@edwardkenworthy7013 2 года назад
That's because he starts from the view point that left-wing racism can't be deliberate, which it is.
@Bobmudu35UK
@Bobmudu35UK 2 года назад
Strange David should quote Starmer,who was in the Labour party,and only party ever to have been investigated for antisemitism. And the main reason for that antisemitism was Corbyn. A man who Starmer tried his hardest to get elected as PM!
@stoufer2000
@stoufer2000 2 года назад
your comment doesn't make much sense.. You are aware that Corbyn isn't anti semitic? And you are aware that Starmer st..bed him in the back at the first available opportunity under false pretences because he knew the media would never support Corbyn? Why wouldn't baddiel support starmer? He's a twisted as Starmer..
@kipsome45
@kipsome45 2 года назад
@@stoufer2000 Corbyn not antisemitic? 😆
@stoufer2000
@stoufer2000 2 года назад
@@kipsome45 not at all. It was a populist smear run by the mostly zionist controlled media and some othe very 'bad actor's' who think it's OK to wreck UK democracy. Which country are you from? Perhaps you don't follow UK politics?
@daniel.lopresti
@daniel.lopresti 2 года назад
@@stoufer2000 I think a more likely explanation for him not buying your ridiculous claims is that he DOES follow UK politics.
@stoufer2000
@stoufer2000 2 года назад
@@daniel.lopresti where did he say that? If hedid , he patently doesn know anything about UK politics..
@The_Reality_Filter
@The_Reality_Filter 2 года назад
Is that the same David Baddiel that was quite happy to perform for years in BLACKFACE on national TV?
@MarrsAttax
@MarrsAttax 2 года назад
Yep
@chesterdonnelly1212
@chesterdonnelly1212 2 года назад
Back in the days when comedy was funny and audiences would laugh instead of clap.
@spm36
@spm36 2 года назад
@@cimarrona353 BS..utter bollocks
@rigsby1454
@rigsby1454 2 года назад
Always nice in the comments section that people who talk about 'woke' and 'tribal' act exactly like that when someone they disagree with is on this
@livensflame
@livensflame 2 года назад
The never-ending victimhood.
@iggle6448
@iggle6448 2 года назад
Sells books, but.
@jamesjarrett52
@jamesjarrett52 2 года назад
If the Spurs didn't sing it it would be sung at them with menaces by the supporters of Chelsea, West Ham etc with no response whatsoever. Baddiel is wrong to pin the blame on Spurs fans. It didn't start with Spurs fans and if Spurs stop singing it, the word won't go away. It will be reclaimed by the far right. That's the reality.
@stephenkiely118
@stephenkiely118 2 года назад
Excellent interview.
@agenteggboy9526
@agenteggboy9526 2 года назад
I think I disagree with the notion that the history of the word doesn't matter. If the history doesn't matter in the context of using it in a positive fashion, then the origin and historically negative connotations of the word doesn't matter either, which would make the word meaningless. The N word is just a word, without considering the historical connotations, it has no weight whatsoever. So either the Y word is a historical slur that has been reclaimed positively, or it is a word without meaning. It cannot have selective historical meaning.
@strongbow3896
@strongbow3896 2 года назад
He was bleating on about this on Fantasy Football in the 90s. I never hear anyone else mention it. He likes football culture when they sing his song but wants to shut it down when he's upset. Get over it.
@gingerbard2607
@gingerbard2607 2 года назад
Baddiel (who hasn't said anything funny in 15 years) dares to criticise Jimmy Carr!
@Burnersforvanlife
@Burnersforvanlife 2 года назад
Please note your mistake. He has never said anything funny. Or Skinner for that matter.
@oliverb104
@oliverb104 2 года назад
must be exhausting for baddiel crying about his oppression 24/7 365
@ohnoudint1
@ohnoudint1 2 года назад
He’s not talking about oppression he’s talking about antisemitism. The fact that you let that fly over your head means he has a valid point
@MsMounen
@MsMounen Год назад
Who exactly are the far right? A lot of people are being called far right at the moment.
@garrybaldy327
@garrybaldy327 8 месяцев назад
The Chelsea incident is more confusing because Roman Abramovich himself is Jewish. But then idiots are not called idiots for nothing.
@bristowezt9751
@bristowezt9751 2 года назад
Thanks for this David. Looking forward to you apologising for your racist slurs towards the GRT community over the years, or is that such a ‘blind spot’ that it doesn’t matter?
@rohitballal5654
@rohitballal5654 2 года назад
He never was racist to them. This is a fiction.
@bristowezt9751
@bristowezt9751 2 года назад
@@rohitballal5654 type in on RU-vid, ‘Baddiel being racist again’ and watch the first video. My mother is from the Irish Traveler community and it’s grossly offensive to make comments as Baddiel had. He should apologies.
@bristowezt9751
@bristowezt9751 2 года назад
@@rohitballal5654 nice one for responding Rohit, you should delete your comment.
@bristowezt9751
@bristowezt9751 2 года назад
@@rohitballal5654 😂
@rohitballal5654
@rohitballal5654 2 года назад
@@bristowezt9751 Sort it out
@davidmorris3981
@davidmorris3981 2 года назад
Very interesting discussion. Pity there are some unsavoury people in the comments section.
@stoufer2000
@stoufer2000 2 года назад
nation wrecking neocon puppet much?
@iggle6448
@iggle6448 2 года назад
Ad hominems help much?
@miltonmutten1668
@miltonmutten1668 2 года назад
Your comment adds nothing to the discussion other then trying to signal to people that you think certain ideas deserve to be labeled "unsavory" or "disgusting" in the hopes that you can apply social pressures to condition people what to keep their mouths shut about...The jig is up bub, your trying to engineer consent and play 4th gen warfare commando...lol WE SEE YOU
@edwardkenworthy7013
@edwardkenworthy7013 2 года назад
Welcome to the Internet: where racists hiding behind pseudonyms abound.
@stoufer2000
@stoufer2000 2 года назад
@@edwardkenworthy7013 zionist neocon flth is a race now is it?
@jamesjarrett52
@jamesjarrett52 2 года назад
Can't we all just get along?
@artrandy
@artrandy 2 года назад
Personally speaking, I wish David Baddiel would change the record............
@grammeb719
@grammeb719 2 года назад
Maybe look a little deeper at Christopher Bouzy. He’s not what he portrays.
@b.alexanderjohnstone9774
@b.alexanderjohnstone9774 2 года назад
To rather prove his point, I came into the interviewing with a vague idea that David was or would be a Spurs fan. He's not. My attitudes to Spurs clearly at least 50 years out of date.
@blackhawk8920
@blackhawk8920 2 года назад
Do Tottenham fans use yid as a negative because in of itself it is not a negative word here in America or israel? Yes, I am Jewish.
@analiablanco
@analiablanco Год назад
I've lived in 4 continents and the only anti semitism I've ever experienced is towards arabs.
@filled_soda
@filled_soda 2 года назад
It's still censorship, David. We can see it for what it really is.
@chelseapoet3664
@chelseapoet3664 Год назад
Baddiel says that anti semitism comes from the far right, but it existed for a very.long time before the concept of right wing even existed.
@oscarvi3232
@oscarvi3232 2 года назад
The "Y word"? Bloody hell, just say "Yid" for crying out loud. It doesn't mean you approve of the use of it, but this "N word", "Y word" is puerile.
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 2 года назад
As Wiktionary points out (but it was obvious to me, at least, even before I checked with that dictionary), "Yid" is used by Ashkenazi Jews (whose traditional language is, of course, Yiddish) to refer to themselves. It simply means "Jew," and is clearly derived from the word "Judah." Nonetheless, as used by non-Jews, it is an ethnic slur: there's no denying that. But note that while Google will not allow people to type out the "N-word" it has no qualms about the "Y-word." Double standards, as we would expect.
@josephlennon8475
@josephlennon8475 2 года назад
David Baddiel. An absolute waste of space. Rode on the back of Frank Skinner. Get a job.
@iggle6448
@iggle6448 2 года назад
A whole new sub-genre: wokerati kvetching.
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 2 года назад
Wonderful!
@garrybaldy327
@garrybaldy327 8 месяцев назад
Err... Erm... Err... Erm... Err... Erm... Just ask the question, kid. Don't be so hesitant.
@philiplindley7384
@philiplindley7384 2 года назад
Baddiel is a self-confessed, non-practising Jew so I don't know why he feels he has to make his heritage his raison d'etre, almost. My heritage is half Derbyshire coal-mining Methodism and half middle-class Plymouth Brethren. I feel neither pride nor shame in that, it's an irrelevance in my life. What my ancestors did or believed in was their business, I don't care.
@robertcook2572
@robertcook2572 2 года назад
Very well said
@Ed-qc4nz
@Ed-qc4nz 2 года назад
You should care, it's your history.
@stoufer2000
@stoufer2000 2 года назад
@@Ed-qc4nz live in the now
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 2 года назад
Practising or non-practising is irrelevant when it comes to "anti-semitism" (a word that I despise: what does it mean? People who oppose Semitic languages?), more accurately "Jew-hatred." People who hate Jews do so because they are seen as a "race" (Got that, Whoopi?), not because they worship in synagogues. Jew-haters couldn't care less whether someone of Jewish descent is religious or an atheist or even a Christian.
@chesterdonnelly1212
@chesterdonnelly1212 2 года назад
@@DieFlabbergast true. It's a terrible word. Semites excludes lots of Jews and includes lots of non-Jews.
@garrybaldy327
@garrybaldy327 8 месяцев назад
Richard Dawkins is humourless. Of course he was offended by David's "trolling" joke.
@djbarbergreen3388
@djbarbergreen3388 2 года назад
Why is black the default for all other sufferers of isms to use as a comparison, its racist to think that way because you also see black as the worst at moaning. We don't care ,as I said we have our own battle, its not a competition
@daniel.lopresti
@daniel.lopresti 2 года назад
Because unfortunately it's being weaponised by certain groups with ulterior motives, as they hijack your cause and thus poison the discussion. I'm quite sure most of the pushback is aimed at these groups, not at the supposed victims that they purport to fight and stand up for.
@iggle6448
@iggle6448 2 года назад
Exactly, it's not a competition - which what these people are doing now.
@anyakirby2014
@anyakirby2014 2 года назад
Being an admire of Aishat Ackanbi, my guess is that there are a few things that she, one of the deepest and honest British thinkers of our time, (I believe, of Nigerian origins) won’t approve in the book ‘Jews don’t count’: 1. The author writes : « I agree that being white does bring with it enormous privilege », « It means you are protected… from prejudice, discrimination, second -class-citizenship, dispossession…” Aishat hates the idea of «White privilege » as she thinks it’s racist and carries similar notions of dangerous oversimplification, lies, potential hate and division, like the phrase “Jews are rich”. As a very well informed person, Aishat knows how many white people are poor or struggling in this country, despite the fashionable narrative, can be easily discriminated because of their weight, height, looks, age etc. 2. D.Baddiel complains that while choosing an actor for a Jewish character film directors and producers far too often give them to non-Jewish actors, which is in author’s view, is disregard for Jewish ethnic sensitivities. Aishat would completely disapprove both the “monopoly on sensitivity” as well as the whole idea that an ethnic minority character should be played only by an actor of the same race. She thinks of it as a neo-segregation-like, and again, dangerous and disuniting. I’ve been to her talks and listened to lots of her podcasts - I do highly recommend them. I could think of a few other points of the book A.A.might disagree with. There is a chance I might be wrong. It’s best to ask her.
@daniel.lopresti
@daniel.lopresti 2 года назад
It's unbelievable to see the number of comments posted here that only serve to confirm this "blind spot", one commenter even stating that the fact it's being talked about negates it being a blind spot. While I'd like to offer the poster the benefit of the doubt, it's quite obvious in this case the expression could be interepreted as being an intentional or consciously deliberate act (which in my view makes it all the worse).
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 2 года назад
Open borders for Israel.
@aethellstan
@aethellstan 2 года назад
totally agree
@daniel.lopresti
@daniel.lopresti 2 года назад
@@aethellstan thanks, yer 'ighness!
@djbarbergreen3388
@djbarbergreen3388 2 года назад
Birmingham City fans call themselves the Zulus..racism is not a race or competition for the sufferers..badie needs to stop comparing and focus on anti semtism, because pointing fingers distracts for the perpetrators actions ...
@iggle6448
@iggle6448 2 года назад
Well said.
@anyakirby2014
@anyakirby2014 2 года назад
Can’t agree more.
@Georgieastra
@Georgieastra 5 месяцев назад
Birmingham City have fans?
@errolkim1334
@errolkim1334 2 года назад
I'm a Spectator Subscriber. I'd be obliged if my comments weren't deleted. Especially if they are about David Baddiel, who got old an insecure and then suddey remembered HOW JEWISH he was only after him and the likes of him had turned London-and a lot of other places- into an unliveable mess, especially for Jews.
@errolkim1334
@errolkim1334 2 года назад
11:52..... Tells you all you need to know... "A thinking sport publication". In other words it is a subscription based journal for people with the right opinions.
@stoufer2000
@stoufer2000 2 года назад
Baddiel is one twisted manipulator
@stoufer2000
@stoufer2000 2 года назад
actually so is this channel... twisted neocon nation destroyervision
@The_Reality_Filter
@The_Reality_Filter 2 года назад
Oy vey, shut it down
@ellie698
@ellie698 2 года назад
i can't stand the bloke
@Johnny-sj9sj
@Johnny-sj9sj 2 года назад
Thank you oh wise one. Oh, wait…😁
@stoufer2000
@stoufer2000 2 года назад
@@Johnny-sj9sj bless, david's little puppy makes an appearance... how very sweet..
@tridentmusic5570
@tridentmusic5570 2 года назад
If you need to read an into........sad
@redemrys5342
@redemrys5342 2 года назад
Now be honest, this interview was a waste of time.
@gerardthomas9847
@gerardthomas9847 2 года назад
Come on man, Amnesty has just declared Israel as an apartheid state, are we supposed to ignore that?
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 2 года назад
Yes. Anything that Amnesty International says these days should be treated with the utmost suspicion.
@spm36
@spm36 2 года назад
Amnesty ignores hamas rockets you mean?
@Zaosak
@Zaosak 2 года назад
Islam and Judaism are religions so why are they put into the race category?
@mudchair16
@mudchair16 2 года назад
Judaism is different because they believe themselves to be the seed of Abraham, and literally a superior race to all others. Allegations of anti-semitism are essentially a form of projection -- accusing others of racial *hatred* toward the Jews -- since most criticisms directed at Jews or the Israel government are unrelated to race and not hateful. It's simply a way to shut down legitimate criticism.
@m0ckingB1rd42
@m0ckingB1rd42 Год назад
Jewish people belong to an ethnicity. No nazi or crusader ever cared whether a jew was practicing Judaism. They only cared if you had Jewish parents or grandparents. Unlike Christianity and Islam, Judaism is a non proselytizing religion and Jewish culture is, as a result, not one that forces itself on others or seeks converts. Therefore the number of people who convert to judaism is statistically insignificant and almost all Jews alive today (unlike Christian’s or Muslims) have common genetic ancestry that links them together as one ethnic group. This is just science
@ohnoudint1
@ohnoudint1 2 года назад
Reading some peoples comments only validates what he saying. It’s amazing to watch it in real time
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 2 года назад
Open borders for Israel.
@miltonmutten1668
@miltonmutten1668 2 года назад
Maybe theres a reason people dont like Israel or it's inhabitants...Maybe...Just maybe...It doesnt have ANYTHING to do with race or religion but is a REACTION to something someone is doing... Far Fetched concept I know
@Ed-qc4nz
@Ed-qc4nz 2 года назад
People becoming woke to Jewish power and privilege in real time.
@mrcockney-nutjob3832
@mrcockney-nutjob3832 2 года назад
You will wake up someday and see the games they play, they have been trying to start a race war for the last 60 years.
@boogieboxmusic4331
@boogieboxmusic4331 2 года назад
I find badiel particularly unfunny..oh and somehow annoying. Not my thing at all
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 2 года назад
Boring.
@egertonmark
@egertonmark 2 года назад
Spectator TV why are you wasting your time on this bell end Baddiel?
@iggle6448
@iggle6448 2 года назад
Because it's mates night? Mates with name-droppable connections?
@cheekyboy5000
@cheekyboy5000 Год назад
a stick to beat the left. They can't get enough of that.
@bongeyedbill9355
@bongeyedbill9355 2 года назад
Eye opener for sure. David is a very Intelegent man...Aswel as a good song writer! 👍
@Burnersforvanlife
@Burnersforvanlife 2 года назад
And. Shit comic
@errolkim1334
@errolkim1334 2 года назад
David's going home, he's going home, he's going, 3 stars on his shirt, Palestine still burning, 80 years ago...
@aethellstan
@aethellstan 2 года назад
@@errolkim1334 He is home, he's born in this country. the comment about the stars is obviously fascistic in nature and as for Palestine burning it's been burning for several thousand years and will be for several thousand more.
@errolkim1334
@errolkim1334 2 года назад
@@aethellstan triggered?
@aethellstan
@aethellstan 2 года назад
@@errolkim1334 no, just not racist.
@Zamo14
@Zamo14 2 года назад
Irrelevant
@jackryan2135
@jackryan2135 2 года назад
Sop with the victimhood bullshit. It's tedious.
@JackSardonic
@JackSardonic 2 года назад
Ok Jew
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