DAVID & KIRK TALK ABOUT THE ALL-NEW 2025 TOYOTA CROWN SIGNIA! DO THEY LIKE IT?

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David and Kirk (@KirkKreifels) are together to talk about the all-new Toyota Crown Signia, perhaps the best looking SUV/Estate/Wagon ever to wear a Toyota. They go over all the details and chat everything about the vehicle - interesting side stories as well.
Automotive Press is owned and managed by David Koichi Chao, a global expert in the field of automotive evaluation, engineering, and strategy. With over 35 years of engineering experience, David is able to review vehicles from unique perspectives utilizing technical and specialized methods. David is a board member and a director at AJAC (Automobile Journalist Association of Canada).
David is known around the world as an authentic specialist of Lean/Agile Thinking, and travels all around the world to review vehicles and teach latest engineering methods. Born and raised in Japan, David has an engineering degree from University of British Columbia and post-graduate education from MIT and Harvard Business School in Boston.

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@KirkKreifels 2 месяца назад

Always a blast co creating with you!

@AutomotivePress 2 месяца назад

You're the best! Let’s collab soon!

@yippie6862 2 месяца назад

How tall are you Kirk? Wondering how I'd fit in the Crown Signia.

@steviej3072 2 месяца назад

I love when these guys get together👏👏👏👏

@user-mg4bw5ly8r 2 месяца назад

The problem with the crown brand in America is that it's still using the regular Toyota badge. If it wants to distinguish itself and increase sales, it has to have a different badge - - the actual crown badge that Toyota uses in Japan would help... Alot.

@richardscott5155 2 месяца назад

Great to see you both

@jimmyamico4713 2 месяца назад

Hi David, Very nice VEHICLE… I wish you came with a naturally aspirated six-cylinder engine… I was wondering if that will enter sometime in the future? Beautiful color combination outstanding fit and finish. I hope the world gets back to naturally aspirated engines… Great job with you and Kirk! Happy Easter to you both!🇯🇵🤍❤️

@curtisdeboer8963 2 месяца назад

I always enjoy your collaborations. Looking forward to a New 4Runner collab!

@rightlanehog3151 2 месяца назад

David and Kirk, Perhaps you will be test driving this Signia in the next month or so. 🤔Without a Hybrid Max or Platinum option, I hope Toyota will be pricing the Signia to compete with upper end trims of the Outback. I would also reiterate my call for Toyota Canada to see the light and bring the more affordable Signia XLE to our wagon-friendly market. 🤞 The one glaring omission in this Signia is a 40/20/40 second row seat to facilitate ski bags etc. That handy feature seems to be getting rarer and rarer these days.

@mattgregory3880 2 месяца назад

I just traded my 2033 Subaru Outback Touring (w/50k miles) for a 24 Crown Limited with macadamia interior. The Outback Touring doesn't even come close to the Crown as far as comfort, ride quality, build quality and technology. Subaru's technology is about 4 years behind, grainy screens and cameras...just not worth it. Crown, fir the money, is knocking on Lexus door.

@joeyp1927 2 месяца назад

I wonder what people (not Dave and Kirk) have against wagons and why the term 'station wagon' is practically kryptonite in the auto business. Practically everyone who buys a small or mid-size SUV is going to do the exact same things as people buying wagons, like load up a lot of stuff, except it's easier with a wagon because of the lower loading height. And the lower center of gravity means it's safer and more fun to drive. Since 95% of SUV drivers don't go offroad, what's the point of having a lifted vehicle? I don't think visibility is that much better unless you're in an FJ Cruiser or Jeep. In my opinion, wagons just look better than their SUV counterparts. This Crown Signia is nice, but it'd be sleeker if it were lower. But they know that if it's not lifted, it's a station wagon and they're dealing with kryptonite.

@louiep9862 2 месяца назад

I just got back from the NY Auto Show and sadly this was not on display.

@carlomedina7568 2 месяца назад

Is this Toyota’s move in replacing the venza? So far based on pictures/videos I kinda prefer the venza but have yet to see this in person

@chrisb9478 2 месяца назад

Yes, replacing Venza

@AutoGroup786 2 месяца назад

I love this car! It seems like it'll be pricey, but what a stunner!

@steph9445 2 месяца назад

These things will sell like hot cakes. Great design, super practical, efficient.

@Northern_Ty 2 месяца назад

Love this design, don't understand why Toyota isn't bringing this as a PHEV. Would be perfect replacement for Outback families that want the wagon practicality but want more refinement over the ruggedness

@E_Rice 2 месяца назад

From my understanding there is a PHEV version in Japan. I suspect if popular enough, Toyota brings it stateside like RAV4 Prime. However, Toyota says PHEV are much more difficult to make and they can make 100 hybrids for every 1 PHEV which is another reason why RAV4 Prime is so hard to get.

@pan4632 2 месяца назад

should have been the Crown Sport

@unknownXYZchris 2 месяца назад

great job you both 😊

@blueflameSM 2 месяца назад

The msrp of the crown will really determine how successful it is. Only 2 trims available, so starting is likely around $45k and fully loaded closer to $60k. I like it, but the price is really going to determine if I even bother getting one. Been looking to get an SUV, so we shall see.

@thisismagacountry1318 Месяц назад

Great Outback competitor with Toyota reliability. The price will be recouped on resale value.

@ricetune 2 месяца назад

That little flap behind the seat is where you get Pokémon catching balls. You are welcome.

@lh8372 2 месяца назад

Great video guys!! I understand the impoyif the Crown nameplate and it may sell, who knows, but I really wish they would bring back the Avalon!

@eddieg6436 2 месяца назад

I wish the Crown Sport from Japan came to the U.S.! Toyota Purasangue!

@kevinn1158 2 месяца назад

They should ditch the Crown Sedan and replace it with the Crown Sport. I think there's a market for both the Sport and Signia. Maybe give the Sport the Hybrid Max engine. By the way, I was at a dealer in Toronto and there's one trim Limited and an option for a Tech package.

@caminuyu 20 дней назад

Is this larger than RAV4 in terms of dimensions and cargo space?

@Escanor990 Месяц назад

Will it have OTA updates, will it get Arene OS in the future?

@brandononbrand 2 месяца назад

will the gas tank be 14.5 gallons?... or do we get the 17.2-gallon tank from the RX? since it has the lower MPGs of an RX, it should have the same tank!

@MarC-ot5gl 2 месяца назад

Love the less than 3 mm gap on the hood - It's great that they can get it out of the plant that way before we get the front apron separation like the IS 500 has, then the gap becomes about 20 cm! But it's OK, they have issued a LSB that has zip ties and glue to try and hold it although we already know it didn't work.

@hondajacka2 Месяц назад

Can you do a more detailed comparison between this and the NX or RX?

@alanwilliams8531 2 месяца назад

Does the Signia have some extra cooling to earn the 2700 lb tow rating bs Crown sedan

@artdelac 2 месяца назад

The issue with the word "estate" is that it denotes a "station wagon" particularly a term used in Europe. Toyota North America had to drop the name "Estate" in favor of a new coined word "Signia" because of Americans' phobia of driving anything that is considered a station wagon. So weird but true.

@tspidey007 Месяц назад

Do you think they are not bringing the Crown Sport model to North America now but will next year as the next generation RAV4?

@ag4eng 2 месяца назад

If this costs over $50k, then I don’t anticipate too many sales. The ugly Crown is a flop in the US. Miss the V6 Avalon.

@9snaga 2 месяца назад

Why did the crown flop?

@verlaryder 2 месяца назад

Alienated middle and senior aged buyers with it's eccentric styling, claustrophobic interior, feel every bump short sidewall tires, hard seats, Lexus like price.

@ag4eng 2 месяца назад

@@9snaga The very odd looks that was made worse with two-tone paint job and high price. Dealers can’t sell them.

@michaelweston9048 2 месяца назад

It will cost over 50k for sure lol people will keep buying the Camry 😂😂😂

@orlandovelastegui1391 2 месяца назад

I don’t miss the V6 I have the 2024 Toyota Venza and I was just on a green light with a Q60 infinity and I dusted him. A V6 against a SUV with Two electric motors and a 2.5 liter engine. Plus I get 45 miles per gallon.

@gustavobarrera4415 2 месяца назад

I wonder what the mpg will be like. If it's the same as a Camry I would consider it for sure

@drnick40 Месяц назад

Overpriced. Thank you for the cool video. You guys should get together more often for Toyota reviews.

@jeffreyerickson6766 2 месяца назад

Kirk can you come to the Minneapolis Auto Show this week?

@E_Rice 2 месяца назад

David, when do you expect to test drive it? Also, can you compare it to modern Lexus? Honestly, for price of Crown sedan, I wonder why someone would choose any Crown over Lexus ES besides the easier step in due it being a raised sedan (sat in Crown sedan limited and much easier to get into vs Camry, Avalon, Lexus ES, headroom is a problem in Crown as Kirk said. I hit my head multiple times and not even 6’)

@mattgregory3880 2 месяца назад

Just got my 24 Crown Limited this Saturday. $1500 below msrp, Toyota dealers around me are starting to disount them now. I traded an Outback for it, that Signia is a wagon/sport wagon. Toyota claims 36mpg for the Signia, hows that possible, Is it that much heavier than the Crown Crossover? I got 40mpg this morning driving 80 miles mostly highway. Please Toyota....let the Signia replace the Highlander and give is the Crown Sport the same time you bring out the new RAV4.

@AutoReport1 2 месяца назад

Insignia was a recent Opel/Vauxhall, so a no go for the Crown in Europe. It's supposed to be coming back this year as a similar vehicle.

@europec2082 2 месяца назад

why didn't they put the crown badge on the front and the wheel?

@thisismagacountry1318 Месяц назад

The pass through on the cargo flap is to reach boxes or baskets holding your stuff like toothbrushes and snacks for camping.

@user-uw4ch8qr5e 2 месяца назад

I like the look of the Signia but I fear dealers will jack up the price (by only stocking the top trim, side note, dealers in the mid-west seem to only stock ugly black interior's) also, the high belt-line and lack of an opening rear window makes me doubt I will choose it to replace my 4Runner. Helpful review.

@natelove187 2 месяца назад

The reason why Toyota Dealers have mostly black interior vehicles because the winters and rainy seasons. Black interior are easy to clean and better for resale value in colder 🥶 and wet climates

@user-uw4ch8qr5e 2 месяца назад

@@natelove187 I respectively disagree with your logic. As an Iowan I always see black vehicles with black interiors covered with dirt and being oppressively hot and sticky in the humid summers. I find these dark interiors depressing and uncomfortable in all seasons. Personally, I think it is just a cheap solution for automakers.

@dzeng 2 месяца назад

I hope they offer a more powerful engine choice just like the crown sedan limited.

@churrocapitan9380 2 месяца назад

I wanted to buy the Crown Insignia, but the Crown headroom was too limited. It's a too mall on an interior for the size of the car.

@E_Rice 2 месяца назад

I’m hoping that somehow the Signia has more headroom but I agree based off the Crown sedan the headroom is too low. I don’t understand why Toyota continues to do this.

@guzm9n-306 2 месяца назад

Needs the 2.4 Turbo hybrid w/ 6 spd like the normal crown

@paulstein9258 2 месяца назад

Last month, traded my 2021 Venza hybrid Limited for the 2.4 T Highlander Limited. The Venza was nice but a bad infotainment system and absolutely no interior storage. I like the 8 speed transmission better than the one-speed in the Venza. Also, much quieter than the Venza. I live in southern Ohio. MPG dropped 30% in cold weather. That’s something hybrid reviews never mention.

@LoneWolfSparty 2 месяца назад

Part of it is the winter gas blend, the other part of it is the engine having to run to generate heat more than in the warmer months as it makes the hybrid system less efficient.

@oldschool1928 2 месяца назад

Much better looking than the outgoing Venza. If it drives well and is priced right, it should be a hot seller.

@davidp.4727 2 месяца назад

Love the look but would prefer the Crown Sport. Offered as a PHEV in Japan, would do really well in North America.

@dtna 2 месяца назад

I've yet to see a Toyota Crown in TMNA'S L.A. Region. Then again, Toyota Avalons were very rare, too.

@minhkha3382 Месяц назад

I swear Toyota is trying to take over the auto industry. They have cars for practically everything in every size and shape. I’m not going to lie though, the Signia made me kind of regret getting the Lexus NX because it pretty much has everything, except for the 14” display and the Mark Levinson speakers haha

@davenetdog 12 дней назад

Why not adjust the seat?

@chriswilson7138 2 месяца назад

Car makers in the US market need to stop using small sidewall tires. 21” is going to ride awful on US roads. I wish our 19” venza tires were 18’s.

@bobprice6274 Месяц назад

I think the new Storm color will be a hit.

@chancewilson207 2 месяца назад

They’re gonna sell a ton of these in the US.

@wyomingar 2 месяца назад

10:07 that's a tether anchor for child seats

@bme7491 2 месяца назад

That would easily be the replacement for my 2002 Highlander except that the damn Highlander is trying to outlive me.

@andrewr1614 Месяц назад

Concerning the lack of headroom in the rear seat. That's a deal breaker for me. Kirk, how tall are you?

@WestUCoog 2 месяца назад

Wish they put the stronger engine in. But way better than the sport.

@Sossaup 2 месяца назад

Wish that America got the crown sport like the one in Japan

@Escanor990 Месяц назад

I love the Signia but I think it will be expensive like more than Venza. So, many people may not be able to afford it.

@jeffreyerickson6766 2 месяца назад

Iike how he measured the gaps

@Desertbiker617 2 месяца назад

New Lexus RX started trending integrated colored grill. Then new Camry, and the trend continues.

@Arkeo36 2 месяца назад

A all hopes for a new camry wagon dashed

@natelove187 2 месяца назад

I wish Toyota will discontinue the US version of the Crown that replaced the Avalon and put it out of its misery. Why would Toyota bring an unattractive vehicle to America. The Toyota Crown Insignia is a hot looking car🍷

@dr.r.k.shaffer555 Месяц назад

Almost as nice as a Mazda cx - 90, but not quite!

@JesusDdrum 2 месяца назад

TOYOTA: Prius, Venza, and Corolla Cross! Mix the designs of these three cars to create something! 😁

@EvendimataE 2 месяца назад

why even spend time on looking at the lines when you know its a prototype

@freeflowtrader 2 месяца назад

Looks like that Nissan EV , Nissan ariya, without the whole ariya boldness

@marantamil459 2 месяца назад

I agree with Kirk that Lexus need to improve their interiors.

@SuperSaqer 2 месяца назад

Omg got here before the bots

@reglimulla8270 2 месяца назад

Bot🤓🫵

@jimjones-pz1tt 2 месяца назад

Savagegoose trying to disassemble the Toyota display with his foot.

@genetung8590 2 месяца назад

Looks futuristic. But good? So-so

@steviej3072 2 месяца назад

The Venza has no power guys! It just did not hit the wow button so for that - I was out! And so evidently is Toyota.

@vadskar64 2 месяца назад

What do you mean? It has adequate power for its class and respectable 7 seconds for 0-60mph. They couldn’t bring enough Venzas from Japan. People were buying them right away. And they still do. Go and check dealerships. It was a hidden jam. It was also cannibalizing sales of NX. Has the same features, ride quality for 10k less. Toyotas were never a wow factor in auto industry. Buy European cars for that. It’s intended for a different audience, that values utility and reliability over excitement.

@InvestBetter. 2 месяца назад

Looks like the Signia can replace the Venza and standard Highlander Toyota won't keep making two different Highlanders

@LoneWolfSparty 2 месяца назад

I don't think they have the production volume for this to make the numbers the Highlander sells in since it's built in Japan. Unless they plan to eventually have this replace the Highlander and build it in the US?

@InvestBetter. 2 месяца назад

@@LoneWolfSparty Bo, but the Highlander buyers will just get the Grand Highlander, as the Highlander is phased out, and the Signia replaces the Venza, directly

@LoneWolfSparty 2 месяца назад

@@InvestBetter. That's a pretty good price jump between the Highlander and GH, not to mention the size difference. This car is closer to the size of a Highlander than a GH; although to be honest, the Highlander really should be a 2 row SUV with a large cargo area.

@adamgoldenbear 2 месяца назад

New highlander should just be a 2 row version of the GH like Jeep GC and GC L

@LoneWolfSparty 2 месяца назад

@@adamgoldenbear there may not even be a new Highlander if it's sales keep dropping

@DannyFyffe 2 месяца назад

I just don't see this selling. It looks weird like the first crown from last year. Another miss for Toyota. What is going on with them?

@michaelvella8511 2 месяца назад

Toyota and Lexus established the much saught after realiability name, don't expect to be bribed with luxury goodies anymore.....a little primium is good enough.

@orlandovelastegui1391 2 месяца назад

Why does that Crown Signia look like a wagon and not like a SUV 🚙 like the Toyota 😮Venza???

@hueyye2606 Месяц назад

I AM SURE THE VENZA LOOKS MUCH BETTER.

@Mark.AUS. 2 месяца назад

Not into fake headlight designs.

@lbguitar 2 месяца назад

This looks like a a vehicle that came out 5 years ago. Inside and out. Its elegant and looks quality but it honestly looks dated already.

@alengreen589 2 месяца назад

only 1 engine is a joke for the biggest Car manufacturer of the World.

@ag4eng 2 месяца назад

That too its the 2.5L Hybrid with that awful droning CVT.

@notsodelusional 2 месяца назад

I'm sure Toyota will be introducing more options in the future ... for more $$$.

@jml9550 2 месяца назад

@@ag4enghave you really driven one? The ECVT on my wife’s 2024 Lexus NX350h does not drone like a standard CVT. The NX hybrid is basically a fancier Venza. In fact it is almost as quiet as my 6 speed automatic ES350

@ag4eng 2 месяца назад

@@jml9550Yes I own a 21 Venza and 23 RX 350h with same setup. RX is really bad with droning even on neighborhood streets. Maybe it’s too heavy for that hybrid engine and eCVT

@jml9550 2 месяца назад

@@ag4eng interesting. I have test driven the Venza and the new RX hybrid. Both were pretty quiet compares to regular CVT cars like the Corolla. Anyway, perhaps you need to go back to regular RX with the 8 speed automatic.

@simontong2954 2 месяца назад

Yeah, use the name of Crown is much, much better.

@Integratedcraig 2 месяца назад

Why is Mr beast interested in a Toyota?

@jamesbutler174 2 месяца назад

Unfortunately, just like the Crown sedan, this comes with a fixed glass roof vice one that opens. It's such a weird decision to have a useless $1400 piece of glass, I haven't met anyone who "loves" it. So the Venza with the fixed glass roof is a flop. The Crown Sedan with the fixed glass roof is a flop. I'm betting these will not be popular either. When you live in a hot climate, you want to be able to tilt the sunroof OPEN.

@user-yn4cn3el5q 2 месяца назад

I’ll buy it. I don’t like the fart sniffing you have to do to own a Lexus

@richardwiles4320 2 месяца назад

I loved my Venza, this will cost more, shame on Toyota

@capt.america2737 Месяц назад

I don’t like the name Signia. Reminds me of my Mitsubishi Galant Sigma that was a horrible car. Should have just left Crown and added XR or something else.

@Le_Royaliste_Perlino 2 месяца назад

Just like the Venza and Crown Sedan, I think it’s going to flop. Why buy a crown if I can go cheaper for a normal Toyota or more luxurious for a Lexus? The weird shape isn’t popular in the states, and the front end is too polarizing. Interior is nothing special and like you guys said, very Business-Like. For that, people can just get something German. Coupled with Two trims and two interior colors. Watch sales for the first 2 years, after that it’ll probs be discontinued here. We don’t like station wagons here anymore. I always think the Venza-harrier looked better, but again not to taste here.

@natelove187 2 месяца назад

Dude the Crown Insignia has the same frontend as the 2025 Toyota Camry which looks amazing. The Crown Insignia is going to sell out quick and will be on back order. I agree with u on the Crown Sedan. That car needs to be discontinued ASP

@Le_Royaliste_Perlino 2 месяца назад

@@natelove187 The Camry just happens to have that front end, but it also has the name. While the Camry is the best selling sedan in America, its sales have been slowing every year because of SUV’s, I would anticipate it to continue even with the update.

@matthewhuszarik4173 2 месяца назад

If you want reliability you don’t go German.

@matthewhuszarik4173 2 месяца назад

@@Le_Royaliste_PerlinoWith four-wheel drive added to the Camry expect sales to improve. People like the security of available four-wheel drive and storage room in the snow belt at least partially responsible for the increased SUV sales. A four-wheel drive Camry Signa would sell. I would get one in a heartbeat.

@sultanniazi2394 2 месяца назад

That tiny engine. Forget it

@illuminaughty2929 2 месяца назад

They have to call it an SUV instead of a station wagon in the USA because they can’t comprehend beyond 3 or 4 letters

@funlovingJohn 2 месяца назад

UGLY!!! save some money and buy a Lexus instead of this crap. the crown has a $3K led IP panel and $1K labor to progran and install it when it goes bad. it's just an over priced midsize car that replaced the full size Avalon, that sold for a little more than the Camry a mid size car. Also the Avalon gets a lot better gas mileage.

@LivingInAnInverseReality 2 месяца назад

Overpriced

@mikephillips9311 Месяц назад

You guys talking over each other really sucks.....

@user-wz1ri5gw2m 2 месяца назад

The crown is wayyy too ugly. That’s a no for me.

@ChristianC-gy1ym 2 месяца назад

Ugly, pedantically engineered car. As most new toyotas now tend to be. Listen, if you are going to date a girl for 3 months during the summer and dump her, YA DONT buy her a ring! If you're going to buy a new car every 4 to 5 years, YA DONT BUY a car to last 200,000 miles! Too many people sacrifice features, style, and fun factor to buy a boring toyota because it's "reliable" Those day are OVER

@nickcheema907 2 месяца назад

another abysmal design from Toyota. They're trying too hard to compete for worst design language award with KIA LOL More like "design diarrhea". Squint really hard and you'll see a Ferrari.......yup!