David was a Classmate of mine at the High School of Music & Art where he played the Oboe. He used to always perform his coin tricks in the lunchroom. He will be missed by all of his classmates from 1970. RIP my friend David.
It's not necessarily respect. They have his books. They could have known what he did before he did it. But would they if they didn't read his books? Probably not. Roth is a legit legend and deserves a trophy for more than respect
I disagree. I don’t like the giveaway trophies. If you want to have someone on because you respect them then have them perform, but to lie and say they were fooled devalues the people who do go up and fool them
@@fullthrottlemaxrpm But he did fool them if you actually listen. Penn literally says they knew MOST of the tricks he did, meaning not all. Meaning he did fool them. Go back and listen to Roth, he said he probably fooled them with the last trick, and as he says this Penn is nodding in acknowledgement.
In the world of coin magic there are magicians and there is Dave Roth. When Penn said they read his book, that's right. He literally wrote the book on coin magic. Dave gave us all wonder and enjoyment. He will be sorely missed.
The grand old man of coin magic ! Hats off to you. The more I watch the more mysterious it gets. How proficient he is and how confident he is that he called both Penn and Teller right next to him and did all the sleight right under their noses! That too when he knows that they have read his book page by page and also perform similar tricks. He also acknowledged their skill when he said that the one last trick would have possibly fooled them. Beautiful.
coin magic Is the most difficult branch of sleight of hand,when No gimmicks are involved,at any age,come back when you are older and comment on shaky hands,it is uncontrollable and NOT linked to fear in any way.Great Job Mr. Roth !
I've read comments saying he didn't deserve the award or that he shouldn't have gone because he was old... BRINGS RESPECT FOR THE GREATEST COIN MAGICIAN OF ALL TIME!
have you ever picked on Johnathan for wearing the same suit for the entire season? OR Penn and Teller ? they edit the shows together AFTER they have all been recorded. everyone has to wear the same outfit for the entire season. and yet you only pick on Alison.
@@seanredmond7619 It's always a lot more noticeable when it's not a suit. Nobody ever notices when somebody wears the same suit all the same time because we consider suits to be these expensive high class things that are custom made and tailored and "so of course they wear the same suit all the same time" we think. With something like a dress or a t-shirt we notice and think something is odd.
I think it speaks volums of the respect a master like David Roth deserves. He may not have fooled them, but if anyone should get that trophy, even with a coin routine: it's him.
I believe what Penn was saying is that, they only have an idea what he did, simply because of his books. If they hadn't read the books they would be entirely puzzled.
I've found the most consistent foolers on P&T, or at least the ones who put on the best performances that impress them the most, are expert, professional magicians who've been doing this craft for years. In one case, Shawn Farquar, a champion card magician, beautifully fooled P&T with his own original trick. Then David Roth, who is up there with Copperfield and P&T themselves in terms of skill, showed them an original trick. Then there was Gazzo, who did the oldest trick in the book better than P&T. Even though he didn't fool them, he still did it better than two of the greatest all-time magicians could. And that's saying something because P&T's Cups and Balls are wondrous.
+Jack Daone Magic is counter intuitive. You take what a person knows and produce an effect that knowledge can't comprehend. Only experienced magicians will know what kind of knowledge experienced magicians will know about and then they'll create something original that goes against it.
The ones that impress them the most are the older, more experienced magicians who have perfected their craft. But they are more often fooled by the younger guys doing something new.
+Valvrave What's your point? IT's called Magic. It's an art. Every trick has a solution. So again, what's your point? Link to your video performing it better? I'm waiting...
+Mauricio Calderon NO you straight up see him place the coin in his hand, then pass it between the the two, al, in full sight and then it's gone without removing his hands from the table or your sight or by touching anything. There is only one explanation and that is he is extremely talented at palming something between his fingers and maneuvering the object around his fingers to keep it out of your view while he is moving his hands up and down to show you it's gone. That's my one and only explanation for how he makes all the coins disappear, then he dumps them before overwhelming you with the coins jumping around the coat. It's kinda crazy, but that's the only thing I can think of.
When I lived in NJ, I belong to a magician's "ring" and had the pleasure at one of our end of year picnics to see both David Roth and Darwin Ortiz close up thanks to the generosity of one of our members. They were both amazing way back then and, like P&T, I read their books and bought David's video series (and still have the books and videos). For some people, knowing "how it's done" ruins things for them. But when people with the skill like Roth and Ortiz have perform, like Penn said, it doesn't matter if you "know" the moves, it is still amazing to watch mastery in carrying them out.
This is boss level. It’d be like Vernon, Jennings, or Marlo coming onto the show doing some of their best original pieces with a kicker. They’d say the same thing! 👏🏻
they know a lot of magic tricks. they know how its done. but sometimes they did not reveal it. they have so much respect for other magician especially to the one who create the magic tricks. i concluded that this show is not just for magicians to try to fooled p&t, but for their stepping stones to success. and to promote themselves to the public and to be recognised. and as the veteran or old timer magicians, p&t use this show to get public to know them, to intro them to new generation of audiences as they dont want people to forget the gold and shine they used to be.
No trap doors or shells just 4 silver half dollars a cup a chopstick a Chinese coin and pure sleight of hand mastery by the Legend that is David Roth who is considered to be the forefather of modern coin magic. Love this routine i use it myself often, it always goes down well with spectators.
you need to know the following coin sleights.... classic palm, shuttle pass, spellbound change. Have 4 silver coins, one copper coin and a cup not a glass. Learn these things and watch the routine a few times and you should be able to work it out as I did.
Well done David Roth, we had David years ago doing a lecture for us....he is one of the best coin magicians and teachers in the world. To me...he invented it :)
I bought 3-4 of David Roth’s DVD’s in the early 90’s. Amazing teaching. Love that I recognize some of his moves and patter. Like “hush money” and his lapel production. I Love Dave.
I have to put in my two cents here (no pun intended - well...maybe a little), Roth was (RIP) the standard by which coin magicians were judged. Did he fool Penn and Teller? No. Did they give him the trophy anyway? Yes. Why? Because had Roth not given away all his secrets, Penn and Teller would be clueless as to how he did those effects. They read his works and that's the only way they knew how he did this routine, and even Roth said he thought he fooled them with the coins and cup routine. Regardless, they gave the trophy to HONOR the man. Look at it like this - it was a lifetime achievement award from Penn and Teller.
I agree, but are we completely sure he didn't fool Penn and Teller? Others have remarked that it looks as though Penn is nodding in agreement as David says he thinks the vanishes fooled them. The vanishing method is one I haven't seen elsewhere, and it's possible it slipped by them, although I haven't read Roth's work in full, so I don't know if he explains it somewhere.
I think that was probably his last performance. His hands had visible tremors at some points during the trick. This was kind of a farewell performance.
Awe the childlike amusement from both of them, and Teller breaking his character to say "good to see you," was so endearing. Good job all around. Performance wise and respect wise. Love it.
+Just MacGyver She's not an actor, so 'they' don't use her (edit: if you mean in the 'got talent' sense, where there's an actor in the audience who is meant to pull off scripted reactions) - unless you mean the editor. Almost all of the episodes don't actually happen in the way that they are shown. Instead, a lot of acts go through the process, and it's later chopped up to form the episodes. That's why you'll see the same audience members across a series, people wearing the same clothes, and etc.
Such an awesome routine. This is so entertaining to watch I saw it 3 times in a row. And not to catch how he did it. (not even bothering at this point) Im just watching this man like a little kid. 😊. Great performance. And also love how P&T show the due respect for the man. 👍
+Shwan Conover kostya kimlat's trick was the best one in this show, it was simple it was short and no damn idea how he did it, I loved the farquar's trick too but you can see some of the stuff he did but kostya kimlat is the one you can never catch
Its good to see giants of close up magic, who are rock stars to a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of human beings, finally getting the exposure they deserve. This man created and or perfected 75% of the repertoire of modern coin magician. He did fool them hard with the vanishes at the end.
Absolutely love that Penn and Teller had so much respect for this gentleman that they openly admitted that had they not read his books to even have an inkling as to what he did they would have been fooled. so refreshing to see gentlemen with such a respect for their craft that they would honor a man that fathered some of the very tricks they use today.
+Snakedoctor O'Reilly yeah he knew they knew all of them except the disappearing at the end, Penn also clearly stated that he wouldn't have knew if it wasn't for him stating the method in his own book. - ITS not a mercy gift, its called standing respectfully in awe to the presence of such an talented MAN.
I think its a matter of knowing how its done and actually catching the magician in the act of doing it. I think that is what Penn was getting on about. They "knew", from an academic sense, how the trick was being performed, but when performed flawlessly, they just simply couldn't keep up with the sleight of hand. Hence, they were in fact fooled.
the fool was the coin vanish at the end and noooooooobody seems to have a legitimate clue on how its done. maybe one of the best tricks on the show ???
Big mistake at 2:26. He dropped the coin but the camera quickly cuts away. In spite of that Roth is still the best coin man who inspired many great coin magicians such as Ponta The Smith.
Perfect response to a master performing for them. Roth's books and videos are so informative that he gave away most if not all of his secrets. I so appreciate Penn and Tellar's response to his act. I also am glad that this master's skill is displayed for lay audiences in this format. I do feel the cinematography was a little lacking and fear David's true skill won't fully be appreciated.
I have never read his book, i was following it somewhat until he used the chopstick and Chinese coins, then i just lost it totally. It certainly was impressive, and you could tell he is one great magician.
