David vs. Goliath - Tone City Sweet Cream vs. Mad Professor Sweet Honey Overdrive

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Pete engages yet another "David VS Goliath" pedal challenge! The Tone City Sweet Cream (goo.gl/zUyvhi) Vs Mad Professor Sweet Honey Hardwired OD (goo.gl/gR4rml). More links below.
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What do you think, please comment below. Plus we'd really like to hear your suggestions for more David & Goliath battles! Just choose from the pedals we stock & suggest an cheap vs expensive shoot out - doesn't have to be drive pedals either - can be anything you like!

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@Tcflohr 8 лет назад

Man, that Telecaster is wild. Love it.

@Cannondale4321 8 лет назад

In conclusion.... Pete's Tele sounds great through any pedal

@jammyfacefook 8 лет назад

all Tele's sound great! unless affinity ones :(

@mouse_eater 7 лет назад

Donald_J_Trumpski affinity Tele's sound fine, especially if you factor in the price

@fuckgoogle8661 6 месяцев назад

I just like teles but my favorite has a humbucker in the neck.

@leonardopapa4005 8 лет назад

I feel like every time I see Pete playing I get better at guitar lol

@m00nsplitter72 6 лет назад

I always think I should take up watching football or cross-dressing instead of trying to play guitar.

@kimmolingonheimo 4 года назад

about a week or so ...without guitar touch...is ok, then just awhile ago I played an hour figuring pedals....the trick for me is to have ukuleles and classicals at hand(the humitar maintenance too, psychological too), and I keep my fingernails in shape...all things aiming to touch them strings again, luv K ( btw Pete that gtr is blue more than purple...)

@evansgoff476 8 лет назад

I preferred the Mad Professor for the dynamics. But hot damn the Sweet Cream really holds its own.

@2121toso 2 года назад

Came for the Honey but left with the Cream! Nice demo. Thanks.

@anthonycamera4724 8 лет назад

I'm using the Sweet Cream with either a Gretsch Electromatic, Fender Standard Strat or a Schecter PT Custom through a Vox AC 30 when I want just a little growl. It repros well and is touch sensitive between hard and soft playing. I considered both before buying. I have to say I like the Tone City, the price point is more attractive, it takes up less space and sound great.

@joshblevins2544 8 лет назад

They sound very similar. But I think the sweet cream is more trebly. the sweet honey overdrive sounds more organic with a rounder sound

@bumblefritz 6 лет назад

The Sweet Cream is an excellent pedal! Excellent for low to mid gain drive. It stacks well with others too. That tone for that price is a bargain as well!

@schlagbaumas 8 лет назад

That tele looks stellar. Pete's got a great taste.

@joemama4866 8 лет назад

lol it looks like blue ballpoint pen ink

@TheGalen62 8 лет назад

To my ears the difference was almost imperceptible. Considering the Mad Professor Sweet Honey is more than four times the price of the Sweet Cream, I'd say David wins this round, and Goliath falls again.

@ToddMcKernan 8 лет назад

I'm listening in a very controlled studio environment so I can probably tell a little better than most. But even still its not "night and day". I do think the Sweet Cream sounds a little less dynamic, little more compressed. The Sweet Honey has more depth, maybe more dynamic range, more touch sensitive. But tonally I think they both sound awesome. I could see using either really. Well done sir! good shootout.

@thorwulfx1 8 лет назад

That's the best sound (to my ears) that I've heard from a Mad Professor pedal. I often don't connect with the tones from that brand. That said, I couldn't see any advantage over the little Tone City pedal in terms of tone or rage of adjustment. They're nearly identical. The Sweet Cream seems to be the value shopper's easy choice.

@Markle2k 8 лет назад

I pretty much agree. I thought the full drive was smoother on the MP pedal, but otherwise, the only difference would be the quality of the housing, jacks, pots, things that require some hands-on and time to assess.

@Robstafarian 8 лет назад

I strongly prefer the Sweet Cream, though that Tele stole the show.

@cryath 8 лет назад

I own the Sweet Cream pedal and it is fantastic. An absolute steal for the price.

@francisbackmask3472 4 года назад

Is sweet cresm a low gain over drive or mid gain over drive?

@aaronroosa6385 4 года назад

@@francisbackmask3472 I'd say it's more in the low gain side, it stacks really well with other gain pedals though.

@kimmolingonheimo 3 года назад

@@francisbackmask3472 get one,

@WhoWouldWantThisName 7 лет назад

And the correct answer is.......... doesn't matter,,, Pete will make anything sound like heaven.

@edgeofeternitymetal 2 года назад

Just bought the sweet cream. Amazing pedal! Pairs well with mxr superbadass!

@albertplaysguitar 2 года назад

Do you do the sweet cream into the super badass?

@trollfiddler 8 лет назад

Thought the expensive one was a tiny bit more transparent at the beginning, but otherwise they were pretty identical.

@fang-weiliu4815 8 лет назад

i think if you would playing alone, sweet honey may sound better(it's got a bassy touch), but if you are jamming with a band, then Sweet cream might be the choice because the mid-range tone tend to shine through. And I also think Honey is more for recording and cream is more for live performance. but it's all personal. The point is I enjoy watching all these vs videos:))

@harleyadam4813 6 лет назад

They're very close. I feel like the Sweet Cream has a little more presence, where the Sweet Honey has a little more midrange push. Both great pedals.

@skaboosh 4 месяца назад

Bought two Creams from Andertons, one of my favourite pedals

@MattWilkinsonGuitar 8 лет назад

Saw this Tele' on the "Captain meets" video with Neville Marten. I have to agree with Neville and Lee - what a great looking and fantastic sounding instrument - I'm sure entirely due to Pete's playing. What a match. Thumbs up to the Tone City pedal too.

@kimmolingonheimo 3 года назад

hello hello hello, I was goin g to sell Tone City Sweet Creams ( got 2 of em), but no no: after Simble an before Looking Glass ( and also with Nobels O Dear 1BC) Sweet Cream is a slight breath of sharpness , tonally very well balanced: one of the best bass/mid/treb balanced pedals ever! : )

@leehughes4310 8 лет назад

I have a sweet cream on my board, it's an amazing little peddle!! Real responsive when you dig in! I use a les Paul and next to my jhs angry Charlie for high gain, this pedal works perfectly as mid gain/indie sound with hum buckers! I'm struggling to get it of my board to be honest, for the price it's amazing! So thank you andertons for the videos that drew my attention to this pedal and also thanks for being my supplier!! And Pete, you rock as always!! Keep up the amazing service guys! By far the most helpful guitar shop in the U.K.!!

@pablorioz5698 7 лет назад

Excelent Pete! Nice demo and playing. thanks

@Ali-fl5mb 8 лет назад

These sound almost identical, I think the Sweet Cream has slightly more top end and mids and a lil less bass but it's practically negligible.

@kimmolingonheimo 3 года назад

Yeah, I use the Simble and TC El MojoMojo and Nobels ODR-1 for their bassiness, but paired with any of them the Sweet Cream is not too trebly, also the Mosky Silver MM works great as a substitute for Cream in that purpose, and it even has bass and treb control, other great Moskys are Crazy Tone and Silver Horse: great basses!

@didifischervideo Год назад

I really like these tests with pete - he's playing the guitar and not "drowning" in the effects, so I can get an idea if that works for stage : )

@erasmococo5593 8 лет назад

Mad Professor Sounds fuller and appears to have more dynamic capabilities.

@kimmolingonheimo 3 года назад

of course cause its handwired, do you realise how costly those are..,I have the Swwet Cream n the Joyo Sweet Baby , but I ordered one Mad Prof Sweet Honey for 169€s, NOT handwired...!!! Pete is kinda misleading us here in my opinion...

@erasmococo5593 3 года назад

@@kimmolingonheimo Yup I know the price difference . It is just my opinion . That is what I heard . Whether it is worth the money is another story . Cheers !

@kimmolingonheimo 3 года назад

correcting: Petes not misleading anyone: he did mention its handwired in the bguine..., I do dig Petes playin..., BUT I actually canceled the Mad Prof order, cause I like the ToneCity better ( paired with Simble or Mojomojo or Nobeles Odear1BC, this is a very good comparison! ( I gave my Sweet Bay away, cuz it just doesnt compare to The Sweet cream..., I do love Joyos US Dream and the American Sound for their flexibility...!) Pricetags dont always tell the whole story, just yesterday I tested a Demon Tube Screamer, and its a very nice warm OD! Cheerios Erasmo!

@kimmolingonheimo 3 года назад

yeah but Sweet stacks way better--

@davidurias6778 2 года назад

That tele sounds amazing

@braddietzmusic2429 7 лет назад

I really like both. This is the first demo of Sweet Honey Overdrive I liked (thought sounded like my kind of tone and sound that would be useful for me) and the Tone City stuff seems like an amazing value for the money. Great comparison, thanks.

@gabrielpoblete9409 8 лет назад

the conclusion is, every pedal sound amazing if Pete is playing

@VideosVonDennis 5 лет назад

Sweet Cream sounds brighter, more crisp and that is more my taste. Definitely sold on the Sweet Cream.

@asterhogan1 8 лет назад

so when is the tumnus vs soul food coming out?

@mattchapmanjones2247 8 лет назад

AfternoonConcession or the timings vs the Tone City Klon?

@simms75 5 лет назад

That would be a good comparison, however I managed to grab a Tumnus Wampler from FB market place for £60 - totally robbed the guy selling it, great pedal, easily the best of the Klon clones... Would be interested to see it up against the Soul Food though..

@Mitchnagel58 8 лет назад

I actually prefer the Sweet Cream.

@Driftuner 8 лет назад

yeah, me too..

@Driftuner 8 лет назад

***** true, i was going to buy an OCD, an original one...after testing it back to back against the Mooer Hustle Drive, i bought the Mooer..

@Driftuner 8 лет назад

***** well, the Movalls are basicaly "re-branded" Tone Citys, so you can still get them..

@Driftuner 8 лет назад

***** as far as i know they have the exact identical internals...yes they look different and the housing is different, but i believe the internals are the same...not sure tho...anyway, if you are looking to buy Movalls, take a look at Thomann webstore, they hold most of them still

@Driftuner 8 лет назад

shame..maybe you will have some luck and find used ones out there

@conorbelvin9024 8 лет назад

I'd definitely like to see a video on pedals for bass. Maybe compare a guitar pedal, and a bass equivalent, see if they sound the same.

@nabub8 8 лет назад

I feel like there was a clear difference between the pedals with the tone city sounding muddier. In a song it would be very difficult to tell the difference though.

@myguitarsandme 3 года назад

The Mad Professor has more presence and head room, but at a third of the price, I think the Sweet Cream is a sweet deal.

@kimmolingonheimo 3 года назад

the Mad Prof Simble is my main pedal, I like the Sweet Cream after it! ( I add some mids from the Fender Engager Boost...)

@simms75 5 лет назад

The Sweet Honey (SH) sounds more "transparent" but that also makes it sound slightly weaker that the Sweet Cream (SC). I am not a pedal snob at all, loving the SC here, the SH has a great sound, far more subtle, but price wise the SC definitely is the sweeter option of the two an I like the slightly more saturated sound. There is roughly £100 difference in price, but certainly not in sound.. Great demo though with some sweet playing..

@juno4494 3 года назад

Maybe I got a bad one, but I've got these two pedals on my rig right now and there simply is no comparison. Sweet Creme is harsh and far less dynamic than the Sweet Honey--night and day difference.

@69cohonas 7 лет назад

the tone city is just such a great brand !!

@bassmandudge 8 лет назад

can you give the prices of each at the beginning..just as a comparison…FWIW I thought the Tone city sounded great…but then I have said it before on other comments…Pete could make scratching his nails down a blackboard sound harmonious and full of tone...

@PelicanIslandLabs 8 лет назад

Pete got great tones out of both pedals.

@johnmirabile3535 2 года назад

sweet cream, is an always on for me......my most used pedal......it takes the sharpness off of driven notes and makes them buttery, its great pushed with a les paul and fender amp...Great with paf's....

@mikemaysmusic5519 7 лет назад

great video!!! I have the sweet honey overdrive and love it. one of very few "premium" anythings I have. got it for 50 USD used... I don't need another od pedal period. that sweet cream sure kept up with it though!!!

@SlowhandGreg 8 лет назад

Sweet honey is better but its close your talking that last 5% Credit to the cheaper pedals thee getting better all the time & you need the back and front end at a level where you tell the difference

@groov3z 8 лет назад

Very similar I'd say, keep up the good work Pete thank you :>

@RobCmusic 4 года назад

I had a Sweet Cream a couple of years ago and sold it with a bunch of other stuff, due to needing cash and it having been of my board for a while. I should have kept it, but I can get another, which I will do. The Mad Professor one might sound a bit more responsive, but I use the Sweet Cream on one setting and step on it when I want a good drive sound. I have a fuzz face on my board to take care of cleanup/dynamic response. The Sweet Cream delivers for me at a great price point.

@qirico 3 года назад

You mean you stack it with fuzz or what? Please tell me how exactly you use it cuz i have same setup - fuzz into sweet cream. I feel like sweet cream brightens fuzzy sound a bit which is good thing. Adds some presence

@RobCmusic 3 года назад

@@qirico I don't really combine them. I'll use one or the other depending on what I'm playing, but now I have the fuzz face and the sweet cream on separate pedal boards.

@everope Год назад

Pete loop master, why not use a loop for the 1 on 1 shootout? Would really highlight any differences best

@dejongeblondegod 8 лет назад

They sound very similar. In a band context you'd never hear the difference. So, if you're a poor musician looking for a cheap and nice od, this is a no brainer. For the tone purists, the mad professor sounds a tad fatter to me.

@chadhudson2046 2 года назад

You could tell Pete was hitting the strings harder with the Sweet Cream to make it sound better. How did they get him to play through something besides a Pesa Dookie?

@christurner2398 6 лет назад

The Sweet Honey is excellent. To my ear it's preferable to the T808 as well as the sweet cream.

@andrewstendahl36 3 года назад

Sweet Cream pedal has more available grit with slightly less headroom. Takes up less pedalboard space, is a better value and doesnt look as cheap to me, the more expensive Mad Professor Honey pedal case is slightly larger than the animals pedals and current pedal silhouettes

@stephenmazzotta7873 2 года назад

I prefer the cream over the Honey a bit more natural od tone , the honey was a tad harsh.

@crazylegslife 8 лет назад

tone city maintained clarity at every point in my ears.... cheap ftw.

@bucketheadrox 8 лет назад

STEVE LEITNER they are such an exciting company. I have their fuzz and it kicks ass. Huge lineup too

@mnowaczek8480 8 лет назад

STEVE LEITNER So did you like it or not?

@crazylegslife 8 лет назад

cheap FTW (for the win)

@slash29 8 лет назад

I think a good Andertons series would be '2-minute blind A/B tests' or something.....you could take two bits of gear and let the readers guess which is which. Wouldn't even need to talk much!

@rockhead11 6 лет назад

Even Steven. I’d save the $ and get the tone city even though these mini pedals seem like “barbie” pedals

@luke_reiss 8 лет назад

Hello, Pete!!! Cool video. Some (suggestions about) comparisons and info that I'm looking for: >> a ProCo R.A.T. distortion vs. a cheap version of it >> a Klon Centaur overdrive vs. a cheap version of it (maybe EHX Soul Food and/or even cheaper versions from other manufacturers) If Anderton's doesn't have any versions of the original legendary pedals, it can be average or expensive versions of them too, but please explain that the expensive version is supposed to be that category (or sub-category) type of pedal, with similar parameters, and how the parameters react/relate to each other (dependent or independent parameters, etc). ("tweakability") Cheers!!! Luke

@fernandogarajalde4066 Год назад

Can’t tell the difference between the two so I’ll base my decision on price and size.

@marcbudicin 8 лет назад

I love these videos and Pete's playing although I do request that the playing is a little more diverse genre-wise. Anyway I think that the Sweet Cream won this battle.

@brandonxoa9385 6 лет назад

close but I think the cream sounds better

@ΠαναγιώτηςΠαπακωνσταντίνου-φ7μ 4 месяца назад

Hands down the sweet honey

@Shawlings 8 лет назад

You should do the JHS Crayon (Or mini foot fuzz) vs Spaceman's WOW Signal.

@2wheelhopelessgarage258 Год назад

Cream is more round, soft and mellow. I did not like the mad prof. Too agressive, treble bite was too much. Off course, this just how it sounded to my ear. I think the mad prof really comes alive with humbuckers or actives.

@livemusicalgarve 6 лет назад

Pluck them in Pete, lets go 🎸

@bardomudo 8 лет назад

Should really have used the PCB version of the Sweet Honey which is 50 pounds cheaper. There's no difference between the handwired and PCB versions as far as sound go, that's stated by the manufacturer.

@hectorhrodriguez4679 7 лет назад

The Lows and Mids on Tone city pedals sound dialed back in comparison to their counterpart. I'm liking the price of Tone city pedals but as I see more videos on them, again the lows and mids don't match up. Good pedals for the price though.

@DonGoliath 3 года назад

I got a new sound system anthem ready. Please have a listen.

@RUSTYSPARKS36 7 лет назад

sweet honey sounds better to me but not sure 4x better but love the complexity of the sweet honey alot

@LoftySkinner 8 лет назад

No room for any diplomatic conclusion here. Tone City slays the Mad Prof. Even if you could say with a straight face that you liked the Mad Prof 3% better, the Tone City is still 300% cheaper. Even people who're in the "money is not an object" line of thought would feel ashamed to have put money towards the Honey. As for my main observation: The Cream actually doesn't alias as much as the Honey. That is impressive.

@MusicMike939 8 лет назад

Pretty close in sound. But what is the price difference? And that was some real funky playing Leonardo .. oops I mean Pete :)

@bardomudo 8 лет назад

The PCB version of the Sweet Honey is $129.00, though. They should have used it. Manufacturer says there's no difference in sound between the two.

@xxnonstopdancingxx 8 лет назад

Desmond Hume Either way they get paid 👍

@boe466 8 лет назад

I think its a little bit unfair to compare a pedal to its made in china clone/circuit copy. What you get in a "boutique" pedal is also the knowledge that you support a builder that actually comes up with new designs and produces pedals in your own economical ecosystem. Everybody can clone an overdrive pedal component for component.

@bucketheadrox 8 лет назад

M Fb the guy who does tone city is a well renown pedal maker. dudes a champ for trying to innovate a more affordable lineup.

@PeterWasted 8 лет назад

So this "well renown pedal maker" is a champ for undermining the very company whose intellectual property they were so keen to steal? You are, of course, entitled to your opinion but I do wonder if you realise the effort guys like Bjorn put in to developing pedals such as the Honey Bee / Sweet Honey and how little real revenue they earn from those pedals. The little guy ripping off a big corporation can be admired but a big(ish) corporation ripping off little guys turns my stomach.

@bucketheadrox 8 лет назад

Did he without a doubt steal it though? I thought he just rebranded his pedals after he left mooer.

@PeterWasted 8 лет назад

bucketheadrox Are you suggesting that the Mooer clone pre-dates the BJB / Mad Prof design? Do either of those pedals (or Joyo, Valeton and many more) do anything new? My experience is they generally don't.. I'm concerned that low price and market saturation by far east manufacturers will make it increasingly harder for interesting and original designers to earn a living and great pedal developments may seriously decline.

@bucketheadrox 8 лет назад

No I'm saying that I have no clue other than that. Quit roasting me I'm here for expanding my knowledge on the matter not a court trial.

@Jason-pn1bc 7 лет назад

Am I tone deaf if I can't hear a difference?

@rscott222 7 лет назад

I would love a Black Tea comparison

@andertons 7 лет назад

Watch this space...

@jeebuz6627 3 года назад

Sweet has a rounder, thicker sound. I prefer it.

@MisterTee 8 лет назад

The Sweet Honey is a bit bigger and fuller sounding but it is really close.

@stevenfuller8585 7 лет назад

Can you do some KHDK pedals Verses another brand??!

@skelly8185 4 года назад

sweet honey is more creamy...final summation buy the real deal to prevent buyers remorse and waste money on more pedals

@BrandochGarage 6 лет назад

What strings set does Pete use on his sweet Telecaster?

@lesd2633 8 лет назад

David kicked Goliaths butt. I thought the Sweet Cream sounded way better.

@ojwatts2647 7 лет назад

Could you please give the prices of the pedals you are reviewing. All the vids I've watched of D vs G there have been no prices. Cheers Mr Pete.

@worshipmusician45601 8 лет назад

how about a nobels odr-1 vs. rockett tim pierce and/or truetone vsxo channel 2?

@anuragdongre4942 28 дней назад

1:11 what is that chord? i think its B13

@Muiretta 6 лет назад

What do you folks think about the Joyo Beale Street amps? How about the Beale Street vs 65 Deluxe Reverb Vs TS15?

@robertogrady2798 6 лет назад

You do great vids... love, love, love DvG series... gotta say the MP SHO sounds much better... more full in every tone range... boosts all the strings a whole lot better than the TC SC. That being said, for me the power of DvG vids is to demo the fact that a pedal at a quarter of the price can come pretty fuckin close to the original... Keep on keeping on mate.

@JamieMeyerArtist Год назад

For the average music fan in the audience - same same.

@30smsuperstrat 7 лет назад

I just listen and don’t watch, actually was reading the comments lol. Couldn’t tell there were different pedals being played.

@eyeceeyooh Год назад

Is there a huge difference between the SHOD BCP and hand wired versions?

@groovalotfunk4147 Год назад

Tone City Sweet Cream: more brash

@antondiatonikk2256 8 лет назад

Liked the Sweet Cream better

@BlueRam3395 7 лет назад

Exotic Ep boost vs echoplex pre-amp

@tehhaldiniho 8 лет назад

what strings do you use ?

@xxnonstopdancingxx 8 лет назад

So magical I've seen this asked before, they guitar ones

@michaeldorrenbacher8977 8 лет назад

Ts808 vs Blackstar LT Drive!

@dennyvandermeulen 8 лет назад

surface mount stuff is getting better all the time...doesn't have the mojo like through hole stuff though.

@alansturgess1324 5 лет назад

Thank god for a Pete demo without all the usual sterile shred of a certain other Andertons' favourite demobstrator.

@SkunkMagick 5 лет назад

Don't be a douche man! Everyone on this channel and who works for andertons are fantastic! GFY dude

@arbitermatt 4 года назад

Bitter...

@michelroy8923 11 месяцев назад

Sweet honey has more bottom end

@matthewseddon8613 8 лет назад

Is the Tone City true bypass? As otherwise won't it be affecting the signal into the Sweet Honey?

@cryath 8 лет назад

It is, yes.

@charleysmith5849 4 года назад

The sweet honey sounds like it compresses the tone whilst also driving it, strange to me

@kimmolingonheimo 4 года назад

I agree, bought two Sweet Creams, planning to experiment stacking one with more bassier peds like Caline Highwayman, Joyo American Sound, TC Electronics MojoMojo...

@billyshears6622 3 года назад

$129 "used" vs $45 new.... 🤔 Sound is similar

@69MultiDiesel 8 лет назад

Nobels vs ts808

@bo1ivarj 7 лет назад

I would hate to have the super ears that some of you have. Cos to me there's no diff so why would I pay the money for the SHOD?

@milesdoodling1054 8 лет назад

Im looking for a tape delay pedal like the Strymon el capstan but more affordable! Any ideas? Also anyone here use the minifooger analogue delay? I know its not quite a tape delay but I like the sound of it.

@yopeppy8034 8 лет назад

Miles Dolding wampler tape delay

@Robstafarian 8 лет назад

I think Yo Peppy means the Wampler Faux Tape.

@bonnydoe1 8 лет назад

TC Flashback Delay is a good one in my opinion. It´s very versatile and the tape setting is great. In fact all settings are good :D

@groov3z 8 лет назад

I have an empress tape delay, it's really awesome.

@Yupppi 8 лет назад

Miles Dolding I recommend checking MXR Carbon Copy. It does its own thing but I find it very pleasurable. No tap tempo and all the fancy stuff but if you're in for the sound, Carbon Copy has it. You might want to check That Pedal Show for alternatives.