Days and months - Romance languages compared to Latin 

yeah that's what I thought

Ça c’est vrai mais la lettre v et b ne sont pas proche sur le clavier

Maybe

Totally false! As a portuguese I can say that the names derived from the medieval times when the fairs started to exist being the first in sunday and then 2nd 3rd 4th 5th and 6th on week days hence the names segunda terça quarta quinta and sexta!

​@@josemanueldeoliveirale2261S. Martinho de Dume🤔

​@@josemanueldeoliveirale2261no, the real etymology is that "feira" comes "feria", and "feria" roughly means "holiday". it began in easter, as in the days of the week of easter you wouldn't work, so it's a holiday, over time it just became normal to refer to the days of the week like this

I have a video on my youtube channel about this...

Yeah he was an "imperator" nowadays a general

​@@Math_0402 Emperor is just a french version of the word "imperator". So, Caesar certainly was an emperor.

Mă jur că luna septembrie are cel mai idiotic nume popular de lună dintre toate. La toate mai găsești o legătură, meanwhile septembrie: RăpCiUnE

@@Antimanele104Alecsandri spunea in linii mari: romanii dau lunilor nume potrivite cu perioadele din an pe care le reprezinta. Ca se referea la toate lunile sau nu, asta nu stiu. Dar cuvantul ar putea avea un inteles pierdut, posibil legat de seceris sau de ceva bisericesc. In dictionarele etimologice se face trimitere la raptio din Latina, dar e improbabila legatura.

@@Antimanele104Aproape 20% din cuvintele limbii romane provin din alte limbi, nu din latina. Nu inteleg de ce te miri. Rapciune se poate sa provina din limba daca sau din limba cumana, ca multe altele. Cumanii au stapanit mari zone din Romania de astazi timp de secole, dar limba lor, la fel ca limba dacilor, nu a fost scrisa, asa ca s-a pierdut.

@@m.dewylde5287 Multumesc, capitane Evident, nici nu am invatat la scoala ca limba romana este 80% latina cu 10% influente slavice, 5% turcice si restul fiind un conglomerat de greaca, maghiara si alte dialecte.

The old Roman names were always around (just look at printed documents and manuscripts in old Romanian). These "popular" names came comparatively recently in history, and they were quite variable across the country. There wasn't a single set and there are quite a few versions.

És quasi totalment igual que en català

Catalan is derivated from Occitan its one of His sons til today.

Merci jsuis d'Occìtanie et je les avais pas ❤

@@LostouilleDe rien 😉 Je parle le languedocien, c'est à dire la variante occitane qui se parlait en gros entre Montpellier, Carcassonne, Toulouse, Agen, Bordeaux, Bergerac et Aurillac. À l'est, c'est le provençal; au sud-ouest, le gascon; au nord, le limousin et l'auvergnat. Et au sud, le catalan qui est aussi très proche: j'arrive à avoir des conversations presque normales avec eux, chacun dans son langage.

@@maignialfrancois8170 t'as de la chance..jsuis entre nîmes et montpellier et j'avais déjà allemand/anglais et italien à apprendre j'avais plus dr place pour les cours d'occìtan 😔. On a plus rien sérieux...quelques journaux , des panneaux par ci et par là , des fois un journal complet sur france 3 .. Jsais juste dire bonjour , ça va , merci , au revoir 💀. Sinon je comprends un peu quand ça parle.

Because there was a continuous link. Dalmatian language was between Venetian and Friulan languages and Daco Romanian.

How are the days and the months in Venetian?

@@norielgames4765 Luni, marti, mercore, sioba, venere, sabo, domenega

@@davideghirelli5856 wow that's really similar! The closer we are geographically, the closer the language it seems

@@nestingherit7012 Corect

Crazy how English kept the roman names and Europe switched to hebrew.

It's correct what you said. But I want to clarify for people that it isn't an error to say that in Latin they were called Dies Sabbati Dies Dominica, they were just used in different stages of Latin. The ones you said are during Classical Latin, the ones showed are used in Late Latin which is a phase of the Latin language which was spoken when the Roman Empire was still around. Since of course Latin, as any real language, didn't stay the same during the course of the years but did evolve. And indeed there are also other stages of Latin, like Archaic or Ecclesiastical. Damn, at least technically speaking, it never truly died and is still spoken today since in reality it never went extinct but all the Romance languages are actually just Latin that continued to evolve.

@@alfrredd English is European

@@javierhillier4252 I know I meant the other countries shown here.

​@@alfrreddThe indo-European languages are still heavily paid and the church is built on paganism, nothing has changed and the essence of nothing has changed.

Wow?!

What about the days of the week?

@@cv5w Dzãlili a siptãmãnãljiei: lunji, martsã, njiercuri, gioi, viniri, sãmbãtã, dumãnicã

Where is Friday ?

@@Meteorul I had completely forgotten.. 🤣😅

@@saebica haha its alright! 😂 a very beautiful language you speak!

Lampadas, argiolas.. Y después de agosto, qué significan? Supongo que algo agrícola.

Cabudanni principio/ final de año. Curioso. En filipino todavía dicen pascua para año nuevo.

@@hawaianico Làmpadas=Lámparas, se ponían para la fiesta de san juan Argiolas=Serían las tierras donde se trabaja el grano Cabudanni=Fin del año(campesino) Ladàmini=Estiércol, se vuelve a trabajar en el campo Donniasantu=Día de todos los santos Paschixedda=Navidad, literalmente sería "pequeña pascua"

El idioma de las sardinas

Non foi tal... igrexa católica certo, mais non había Portugal ningún aínda...

​@@bilbohob7179Continuam a ser usados desde a formação de Portugal até ao presente.

​@@bilbohob7179EM TERMOS TÉCNICOS, SIM. MAS JÁ ESTAVA EM VIAS DE SER PORTUGAL.

Muito interessante, Antônio! E vai saber por quê o "dia livre" foi sugerido justamente para a Quaresma, porque a Quaresma num é de dia livre não! 😂Tô aqui há semanas aos trancos e barrancos com o jejum 🤣🤣, que só é suspenso no domingo, por questões óbvias, pois sendo o jejum mortificação e sacrifício, é proibido no Dia do Senhor, que é dia de festa em todo o ano litúrgico sem exceção. A propósito, da palavra _feria_ do Latim vem nossa palavra "férias" 😊

Interesante! Capidani! Septiembre fin/comienzo de año??? Qué tradición cultural o pueblo anterior a Roma llevaba eso?

@@hawaianico caput anni En la tradición campesina, el cómputo del tiempo estaba ligado al ciclo de trabajos agrícolas, por lo tanto, antiguamente, el año comenzaba con el mes de septiembre! Esto se deriva del calendario griego, ya que Cerdeña estuvo bajo el dominio bizantino del siglo VI al X. In peasant tradition, timekeeping was linked to the agricultural work cycle, so formerly, the year began with the month of September! This stems from the Greek calendar, as Sardinia was under Byzantine control from the 6th to the 10th century.

@@MarvashMagalli In Roumainien days of the week : luni, marți, miercuri, joi, vineri, sâmbătă and duminică.

Yes latin languages are the best 🎉🎉

Did you watch the video? That's the case for every latin language

In dutch as well the names of the week are like that

More like "oot" (say the English word "hoot" without the h sound and you'll have août).

@@lucasribeiro7534 I'm french so it's pronounced "out" (but it's like "oot" in english of course)

And this is the problem of not using IPA XD XD For me, an Spanish speaking guy, it's pronounced "ut" n_ñU

In Calabrian: Lune, Marte, Mercole, Jove, Vennere, Sabbato, Duminica. Jennaro, Fevraro, marzo , april', majj' , etc etc 👍🏻

you missed august

@@oravlaful added

Occitan, Calabrian, Asturian, Catalan.. And much more...

A clarification. I don't mean to say that these aren't languages, just to clarify that the term "dialect" refers to a subcategory of a language.

So you say nobody worked in Portugal ?

If you do not mention that these name days were the names used during the holly week (semana santa) , it is hard to make people understand the notion of "vacation" associated to Portuguese week days names.. 😏

Just like nowadays​@@valevisa8429

Romanian is like Russian if it had almost all its natural Slavic vocabulary removed, then replaced it with the French and Latin loanwords and stopped using the Cyrillic and switched to the Latin script some 150 years ago. How Romanian is considered a real Romance language is beyond me.

@@zephyros3039 Are you joking? Try to use your brain for a moment before trying to comment. The Slavic words that were changed with Latin, French and Italian were insignificant number compared to the Latin inherited words in Romanian that were unnecessarily changed with Latin ones. But of course you aren't bringing that up. Secondly, old Romanian and modern Romanian is identical, I am familiar with the old Cyrillic alphabet and I have no problem reading old Romanian documents with that alphabet and I understand it completely because it is still the same language. And now we are at the third point, at the big elephant in the room which is the Cyrillic alphabet. One thing people like you don't bring up that pretend being well informed about Romanian history is that how Romanian even ended up using the Cyrillic alphabet which the Romanian Voievode and great Scholar Dimitrie Cantemir of Moldavia called "Barbaric". Its very simple, during the rule of Alexander the Great of Moldavia they enforced the Cyrillic alphabet on the Romanian language because of religious problems concerning around on Papal conversion of the people in the Principalities. Changing the alphabet to Cyrillic was a harder way for translation, so Alexander ordered for ALL Romanian literature written in Latin alphabet to be burned and replaced with Cyrillic. However it wouldn't take time until after Council of Florence for the Latin one to be stopped, meanwhile in Transylvania it was maintained. Romanian has always been a Romance language

@@InAeternumRomaMater Romanian used to be 40% Slavic in terms of vocabulary. Its substratum is also Slavic. Do your research.

@@zephyros3039 That doesn't make the language slavic, but of course a damn Slavic would try to claim that with little proof to show. The Romanian grammar and syntax has always been Latin showing that it is originally a Romance language not a damn slavic one. And the "40% slavic loanwords" is a speculation by one Romanian linguist, that would've been a lot less when we take in consideration turkic and hungarian influence on the language. More modest numbers are 20-25%, majority are from the church which still wouldn't make Romanian a "sLaVic lAnGuAgE🥴"

@@InAeternumRomaMater ✅ Vocabulary of the Romanian language used to contain about 40% of the natural Slavic words. Do some research. ✅ Romanian started using the Latin script relatively recently (19th century). Before that it used the Cyrillic script, just like Bulgarian, Serbian, Russian etc. ✅ Before 1860s Romanian looked like a southern Slavic language with certain Latin influence. ✅ But at some point Romanians were like “Let’s get rid of the Slavic vocabulary, replace it with the French loanwords and switch to the Latin script”. And they did. ✅ So Romanian is an artificially created language. ✅ Many linguists believe that the pre-19th century Romanian language was basically Slavic, only subjected to Latin influence. ✅ Maybe that’s why other Romance peoples often say that Romanian sounds like a Bulgarian or Russian person tries to speak Italian.

Va bene!

Romanian is like Russian if it had almost all its natural Slavic vocabulary removed, then replaced it with the French and Latin loanwords and stopped using the Cyrillic and switched to the Latin script some 150 years ago. How Romanian is considered a real Romance language is beyond me.

@@zephyros3039like French was an official language in England 700 years ago

​@@zephyros3039as a Romanian, yes. I think we lost a lot of our heritage when we did that. On the other hand we also gained a lot. Also, English is widely, almost universally considered a Germanic language despite more than 60% of their words being Romance or Latin in origin. That's because at its core, and in its origin, the English language has always been a Germanic one, and no amount of loanwords will change that. One of the worst things to ever happen to Romanian as a language in my opinion is how the people who butchered our old language and created the new one actually discarded countless of actual Romance words because they didn't sound "romance enough" and instead replaced them with Latin and French words. Like, mate, I get it you wanna be more of a romance language but don't throw out perfectly good romance words. Our actual Romanian phonetics evolved separately from those of western romance languages. They were more influenced by Germanic languages whereas we were more influenced by Slavic and Greek phonetics. So our words didn't sound super romance, kinda like how French words sound really different from the rest of Romance languages cause they evolved their own phonetics. In older Romanian, April was Priar, which actually came from Latin Aprilis, and now we say Aprilie cause I guess Priar didn't sound Latin enough. When you look at actual Romanian words that we have had from latin to this day, we have ziua (meaning day) pământ (meaning ground, or Earth), which come from Latin Dies and Pavimentum. In Spanish those are Día and Pavimento. As you can see, changes in phonetics. Then you suddenly get Februarie, supra, înțelegere, which are pretty much just carbon copies of Latin Frebuar, supra and intellegere. And thus we have a language that is a mish mash of other languages, which wouldn't be so bad if we didn't just throw our other existing words into the shadow realm. I'm all for enriching our language, just don't make it poorer.

@@norielgames4765 Thank your for your honesty and insight. It was very interesting to read. Out of all Romanians’ reactions to my comments yours were the truest and the realest ones.

@@sempreviva4564 thank you. I think my opinion is a rare one. People just prefer to think Romanian is the one that changed the least, the purest form of Latin still spoken. And nationalists get angry at me claiming that the language had a relatinization and that it had way, WAY more Slavic words.

Forgot applying that logic with months.. 😂

1° dia da semana é Domingo, 2° dia a Lua (vê - se todos os dias), 3° é Marte (aproxima-se da Terra de 2 em 2 anos), até que era bom só trabalhar à terça de 2 em 2 anos 😊

Isso é no galego espanholizado, certamente que os teus avós ainda usam os mesmo termos como no português.

Muzica...

en realidad son mucho mas faciles de entiender

It comes from the Church. All the others maintained the Pagan names, Portugal simply maintained the Roman Catholic Church version after they introduced it. Doesn't need much study if you know what you're talking about.

@@bumble.bee22 Eu sou brasileiro e prefiro muito mais os nomes dos dias nas outras linguas latinas. São bem mais legais e estilosos.

​@@donaldjr9504Estuda!

I feel like being isolated from other latins countries helped not evolving their latin 😂

@@Lostouille The Romans abandoned Dacia after only 165 years of occupation. I don't even understand how the language changed so fast from Dacian to Latin, and how it survived for almost 2000 years.

@@m.dewylde5287 This is what happens when you meet a superior culture. It happened many times in history

@@ccdd5074No it doesn't. This is quite unique. They didn't even conquer the entire territory of Dacia but the language somehow spread all over. They left but the language stayed. Not only it stayed but it is the closest to Latin despite other occupiers taking over the land.

What language Is ??

@@gdg512 It's Pingasorian, a Romance language spoken primarily on the continent of Aurolis, mostly in Pingasore.

​@@nathancomixproductions466did you make that up? Or is there another continent I don't know about?

@@norielgames4765 Oh, but there is! It lies in the middle of the Altantic Ocean, east from Northern Africa and west from the Caribbean.

​@@nathancomixproductions466 you almost had me fooled 😂

Even Augustus was never emperor, but first prince.

no is not. he got a strong slavic influence , like others got theirs , Portugal from original Celts and later Arabic and so on

@@brunobastos5533 Romanian don't have a strong slavic influence. Just 10-11% words of supposed slavic origin. These are stories from their haters! Can you read? That's all you have to do to see the resemblance between Romanian and Latin! Remember, the Romanian language is read and pronounced exactly as it is written!

@@danascully6698 Fun fact: Romanian was completely reinvented in the 19th century (re-latinization of Romanian article in Wiki). You can make any language a Romance one the way the Romanian language was artificially created. Historically it’s been half Slavic in terms of vocabulary, its phonology is Slavic and it was naturally developed on the basis of the Slavic substratum.

@@danascully6698 Romanian is like Russian if it had almost all its natural Slavic vocabulary removed, then replaced it with the French and Latin loanwords and stopped using the Cyrillic and switched to the Latin script some 150 years ago. How Romanian is considered a real Romance language is beyond me.

@@danascully6698 and, you are arguing with some one who also speak a romance language , and also read as it is written , not know what is your point

Hay varias teorías, "feira" viene de "día libre" o de "día de feria", al parecer a los católicos portugueses no le gustaron mucho el que los días de la semana tuvieran nombres de dioses paganos, de modo que de lunes a viernes se reemplazaron por segunda, terça, quarta, quinta y sexta feira. Eso, o bien que simplemente esta denominación era para la Semana Santa, pero que a los portugueses les gustó tanto que empezaron a usarla. Sólo sábado y domingo, que tienen connotaciones más cristianas, quedaron parecidos.

​@@azarishiba2559 Sábado proviene de Sabbatus en Latín, pero a su vez de Shabbat (שבת ) descanso en Hebreo.

“Imperatore” era una carica militare, come dire “generale” : quindi fu imperatore. La carica giurisdizionale era “dittatore = dictator “ (senza significato negativo). I romani usavano “cesare” come sinonimo di dittatore

They forgot so many languages anyway, if they had included at least some more we could have seen the dialect continuum and it would be actually useful

Hey, we're trying to recreate a Latin empire here! not to divide ourselves to be conquered 😂 The barbarians are at the gates

@@giulioBonatiThe Latin empire should include all latin languages

There are at least six Romance languages in Italy not shown on video: Sardinian, Sicilian, Napolitan, Venetian, Lombard and Friulan. Nor Occitan neither Arpitan are shown in France. Same for Galician and Valencian-Catalan in Spain. Minor languages, you know.

@@homesanto And way more, in Italy also, Romangol, Ligurian, Piedmontese, in France, Gallo, Norman, Corsican, Picard, Wallon in Belgium, in Spain Asturleonese, Extremaduran, A Fala, and Aragonese as well, in Portugal Mirandese. Rumansch in Switzerland and Arromanian in Balkans.

Daca nu poti sa uimesti oamenii cu inteligenta,zapaceste-i cu tampeniile tale.

Analfabetism.@@valevisa8429

Los franceses, y luego los americanos lo hicieron, nosotros (soy sudamericano) nunca antes nos llamábamos así, en lo personal lo rechazo, no somos latinos.

não. feira é feira mesmo (fair) . day is dia!

This is not why some Hungarians claim that the Assyro-Babylonians spoke old Hungarian, although it is also the other way around.

@@CocoSon-zj5oj hungarian are a nomadic remnant of the Mongolian empire crossbreed of Japanese war slaves with Mongolian warriors, as military strategy the Khan thought that this crossbreed will be able to win the war with Japan. But the Mongolian empire split apart after the suddenly death of the Khan, they were running from the tribal wars in Asia and they found peace in Europe.

It was showed…

@@Meteorul no, I mean wtf with portuguese and its weird days.

@@cgj6148 if you scroll down on the comment section there is a comment explaining why the days in Portuguese are different

@@Meteorul my gosh... 😅 I know it all. I was just showing how astonishing it is.

​Portuguese here: When I was a child and was learning the days of the week, I wondered why Saturday (sábado) and Sunday (domingo) didn't followed the same sequence as the other days of the week. It would be sétima-feira (Saturday - Sábado) and primeira-feira (Sunday - Domingo)?

there is no first fair, the week start with domingo (sunday) then second fair

Sunday("Sun's Day") is also not a good translation for Domingo though, nor is Saturday("Saturn's Day) to Sabado Domingo comes from latin Dominicus, aka Lord's Day While Sabado comes from Sabbath, which is the Day of the Rest in the Hebrew Bible So it'd be more like... Dominicus(Lord's Day), Second-Fair, Third-Fair, Fourth-Fair, Fifth-Fair, Sixth-Fair and Sabbath(Rest Day)

Romanian is like Russian if it had almost all its natural Slavic vocabulary removed, then replaced it with the French and Latin loanwords and stopped using the Cyrillic and switched to the Latin script some 150 years ago. How Romanian is considered a real Romance language is beyond me.

Do you realize 're-latinization' also occurred in other Romance languages? All major Romance languages have many words from Medieval Latin, which were borrowed or 're-invented' during the Renaissance and Enlightenment periods. This is no different from Romanian. In fact, standard Italian is 'highly engineered' and wasn't popularly spoken until the last century. Besides, many regional Romance languages have borrowings from major Romance languages, especially those in Italy. For example, despite being the most conservative Romance language, Sardinian has many Spanish and Italian loanwords. By your logic, does that mean all Romance languages are 'artificial' and 're-invented'?

​@@zephyros3039You are bulgarian?

You ever go to school?

No, he is bozgor.@@Gelu345

No

Romanian is a Romance language et punctum.

@@saebica Fun fact: Romanian was completely reinvented in the 19th century (re-latinization of Romanian article in Wiki). You can make any language a Romance one the way the Romanian language was artificially created. Historically it’s been half Slavic in terms of vocabulary, its phonology is Slavic and it was naturally developed on the basis of the Slavic substratum.

@@saebica Romanian is like Russian if it had almost all its natural Slavic vocabulary removed, then replaced it with the French and Latin loanwords and stopped using the Cyrillic and switched to the Latin script some 150 years ago. How Romanian is considered a real Romance language is beyond me.

@@sempreviva4564 That's just false and propagandistic. Romanian had a Cyrilic alphabet because was under other dominations and they eliminated the Slavic words, that's all.

@@zephyros3039 Because it developed from the Vulgar Latin, but I guess Linguistic was optional for some

Like French was the official language in England 700 years ago

Go away bullgarian troll.

Vorbesti tampenii. Chiar si inainte de secolul 19, romana avea un fond lexical 70% latin.

Another frustrated bullgarian troll.

Before it was Slavicized,Romanian was Latin,that's why is considered a Romance language. :)

Russian troll, go to Putin!!!

Bro give up drugs and alcohol It hurt you very bad I see...

@@valentinovidiucornea4525 A little reminder: Vlad Tepes 🧛‍♂️ is a popular Russian and overall Slavic name. Romance peoples don’t have such name - Vlad.

My friend, I want to tell you very frankly that you have an extremely serious problem, a total linguistic and geographical confusion. 1. Romania at its origins, is the geographical place where the Geto-Dacians lived and united with the Romanians, close to the ancient Thracians who lived in the place of today's Bulgaria. 2. In the 9th century, when the Slavs and Hungarians came, this Eastern Romanic block was broken, the Vlachs from the Balkan Peninsula and the Romanians with Slavic influences north of the Danube were born. 3. The language, as a base, is 80% Vulgar Latin, over which Ottoman, Slavic, Hungarian, German influences are added. 4. Romanian DNA, to be honest, has a large part of Slavic DNA, that's true, but that doesn't make them less Latin. Before you comment, make sure that you are linguists, that you have specialized studies and that you are not just looking at Wikipedia or other propaganda sites.

No, no. One can comment whatever he wants here, regardless of being precise or even of being true. Of course he risks being laughed at, that's also part of the game. No one comes here, or at least shouldn't come, seeking knowledge. This space is meant for human interaction, this is what it's all about. Screw accuracy in this space.