Hey guys I tried to keep this one pretty simple didn't want to make a 3 hour video on something that doesn't really need to be that long. Discussed some basics about how the ECM works hopefully you find it helpful. Keep in mind it doesn't seem to be fully implemented in early access just yet, as the light indicators don't appear to be connected to the ECM knob.
If anyone wants a bit of background on ECM, there's a declassified US Navy video on defensive ECM on the RU-vid channel AIRBOYD. Granted, the modern methods will be more sophisticated, but it does cover general principles.
Pimpaho thanks man I can't complain about the channels growth I never thought I'd have this many subs anyway. That being said it's nice when people like u realize exactly how much work goes into the things. Thanks for ur support man it's always appreciated.
lots of effort here and research as usual, very great and simple explanation ! i like it ! cheers ,more more more tutorial please !!! From Canada east coast !
You should change the title a bit to reflect the inclusion of the ECM overview you give after the Hornet tutorial (so no one misses it). Really good work here, man, thanks.
Quantum RADAR and modern frequency-changing and timing-changing RADARs make a lot of this obsolete. I forget the actual name for it, but RADARs can now alter their frequencies and the timing between pulses to be able to discard the false-positives (the first signal returned is the correct one, as any more-distant signals must be repeated due to the timing delay between the jammer receiving the RADAR pulse and the emitter mimicing it), and quantum RADAR is even better at weeding out the junk (though it's still in early stages, but China reportedly has a quantum RADAR with a range of 60 or so miles).
I can't seem to get my ECM working. No lights...still? Is there any task that needs to be performed before putting ECM into STNBY mode to initiate the 4 minute warm? Is there anything to confirm my ECM is in fact functioning within normal operating parameters without some visual cue(s)? Thanks for the vids and any help!
The false returns that are off your azimuth only occur by returning those blips to a rotating dish ... and by your false returnings arriving when it's scanning in another direction. A radar which focuses directly at a target isn't going to be fooled this way.
I hope ECM will help with AIM-54s, since chaffs are not very effective. Or maybe jam Tomcat radar enough to delay detection and firing the first Phoenix. For now, Phoenix missiles are overpowered and have amazing turning ability even at 3000 kph.
The ECM lnow how the Radar beacon is seeing your aircraft and know exactly what is going to be transmited back, then it send calculeted false data back with the radar beacon that is aiming at you basicaly an RWR Integrated with a radar to perceive analyze and trick enemy radar
I'd imagine the falsifying of position has mostly to do with firing EM waves that are tuned to the Radar's outgoing signal in a modulation that makes the Radar receive false information in its own native signal. to clarify, imagine you are somebody in a cave hiding from a predator. This predator wants to find you by using the echoes it makes in the cave bounce off you and into it's ears. This ECM is basically you mimicking these sounds but with changes that, when heard by the predator, sound like it is coming from somewhere else in the cave.
my theory stems from experience as a Broadband spec who has to understand how signals work to make sure everyone gets their internet and tv service. It is a pretty interesting job as every problem is different and so is the environment surrounding the issues I deal with. fun fact, If you have a cable provider and they have a chewed up line on the poles, a simple short circuit of a television can output strong enough RF signal to completely jam ATC communications and Emergency Response frequencies when it is backfed through the taps and transformers as upstream. This was learned the hard way when a plane was crashed due to complete communication failure and an exposed cable line on a utility pole.
CaptainConcerned Sr. That's actually very interesting I never would have guessed that. Cool little fact there. Amazing how we live day to day not knowing the smallest thing can have such huge implications
CaptainConcerned Sr. I think the problem is that the radar wave modulation can only make the aircraft seem further away and the enemy plane still recieves 2 signals. One reflected from the plane, one from the ecm. The eurofighter can tow such an emitter behind it to also give away a false direction
Is XMIT mode "silent", when its not jamming.? I just mean does it matter if I keep it on, is there a difference what comes to enemy seeing me if its on rec or xmit? So basically: can i fly xmit on.
I wish ECM was as detailed as Falcon BMS. I know that the DCS implementation is trying to do alot, use publicly available info, be balanced, be realistic etc but DCS aircraft really lack in realistic IFF and ECM
@Jimmy De'Souza the ECM/RWR/IFF in DCS pretty much use a very simplified version. You basically only have mode 4 interrogation, but no implementation of modes 1,2 or other types of mode 3. It's basically magic where in real life and Falcon BMS there is variability in the system and they aren't perfectly reliable. RWR for example is based on radar strength essentially, as well as other factors which the computer uses to determine threat level. In BMS it's not nearly as reliable as I'm DCS, in DCS the second a missile goes pitbull you can expect a lock warning, not necessarily so in BMS. Direction is also less precise in BMS. ECM in BMS works against player aircraft, and significantly impacts ranging of a target, where as in DCS not only does it not work player to player, the FC3 implementation between AC is basically the same no matter what airframe you fly. It's a very detailed topic tbh
I'm hearing conflicting things now. Another video here said XMIT always turns the "music on" and recv will receeive and turn on automatically when it has threats. I'm confused now.
razorseal having the ECM always "on" has major disadvantages such that it gives away ur position. Or even allows homing missiles to be fired at you. U never want to just leave it on. The ideal way to use ECM is to have it activate when there is a threat. This is why the xmit function will only really transmit if there is a threat. Otherwise it's technically in standby (sort of). This whole process is controlled automatically in the hornet. So my guess is that whatever video u saw that in, the guy was confused about the functionality of the ECM.
ur welcome, and I can't comment on how the light works because like I said I haven't seen it yet. it may stay on just to let u know its in that mode. I don't know were going to have to wait and find out when its fully implemented.
Thanks, what flight stick do you recommend. I bought a thrust master, but it looks like they sent me the wrong one (PS4). So, I’m going to buy a new one.
AAA= Anti-aircraft Artillery. Any ground based vehicle or platform that uses shells to bring down aircraft. Systems like the ZSU-23/4, 2S6 Tunguska, PGZ95, are SPAAG. But also the ZPU which is a towed fix position artillery piece. Hope that clarifies.
