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DCS World - F-14 - Back Seat - NAVGRID Tutorial 

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In this tutorial we take a look at the upcoming (or already existing depending on when you watch this video) NAVGRID feature for the Heatblur F-14B.
If you want to know more about Bullzeye calls, please check out this video from the Fighter Pilot Podcast as it does an amazing job explaining a variety of different scenarios: • Video
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@Danofcanada
@Danofcanada 4 года назад
The Jabbers knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't, by subtracting where it is, from where it isn't, or where it isn't, from where it is, whichever is greater, it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance sub-system uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the Jabbers from a position where it is, to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position where it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event of the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has required a variation. The variation being the difference between where the Jabbers is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too, may be corrected by the GEA. However, the Jabbers must also know where it was. The Jabbers guidance computance scenario works as follows: Because a variation has modified some of the information the Jabbers has obtained, it is not sure just where it is, however it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subracts where it should be, from where it wasn't, or vice versa. By differentiating this from the algebraic sum og where it shouldn't be, and where it was. It is able to obtain a deviation, and a variation, which is called "air"
@RedKiteRender
@RedKiteRender 4 года назад
That's not as confusing as i feared it might be, just like everything else in the tomcat it's just slightly harder to work with initially. I guess they've gotta make the RIO earn their pay somehow!
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 4 года назад
Ya, also, NAVGRID seems transitionary as I think later they really ironed out the whole "Bullseye" thing...
@jowenjv4463
@jowenjv4463 4 года назад
It have something... Soviet... In its conception in my opinion... It's like learning the cockpit of the Mi-8 or Ka-50 xD
@MrPhantom453
@MrPhantom453 4 года назад
Now we're getting nice and deep into this module! Good to see you back on the tutorials Jabbers.
@74GreyCat
@74GreyCat 3 года назад
Great guide! a week ago, we started flying together with a friend. I sat down at the RIO and couldn't figure out what the A/G mode was for. Now everything is clear! Very convenient mode. Thank you so much for the simple explanation of how it works. I didn't find this information anywhere else.
@Air-Striegler
@Air-Striegler 4 года назад
So good to see you back!
@SDsc0rch
@SDsc0rch 4 года назад
y'all don't realize it but this system was for something called vector logics back in the evil empire days of the cold war when the carrier battle groups were defending against bear bombers this was a very efficient system the tomcats used to defend the carrier (good luck finding someone who will explain it to you though)
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 4 года назад
So I was told by a tomcat crew chief today that its main usage purpose was for CAP, and being able to stick a virtual tacan where ever they wanted. Typically done yes, around the battle group, so likely fleet defense. So i did find someone to explain it to me :)
@SDsc0rch
@SDsc0rch 4 года назад
@@Jabbers - ha! that's great :) but I meant vector logics the system described is very efficient at communicating where the threat is coming from so all the other tomcats can head in the right direction, report leakers, etc he was right - but there's much more to it :) its fascinating really
@Rlaxox
@Rlaxox 4 года назад
I'm more confused after I watched the video than before I started watching the video.
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 4 года назад
Really? About what?
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 4 года назад
Maybe this will clear it up, maybe my understanding of it blinds me from the difficulty of understanding it. www.heatblur.se/F-14Manual/general.html#navigation-command-and-control-grid-nav-grid
@Rlaxox
@Rlaxox 4 года назад
@@Jabbers That grid, I know it's suppose to help with bullseye calls but It just looks weird as fk.
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 4 года назад
Well it was also during a time when bullscalls were new ;)
@ilejovcevski79
@ilejovcevski79 4 года назад
@@Rlaxox maybe it will work best for you if you go for a 2 sector, 90 degrees angle setting. That way you get a kind of cartesian coordinates system for half of the sky - preferably the half from witch enemy contacts are expected.
@smithy6830
@smithy6830 3 года назад
Hey, can you set coordinates with the navgrid?
@Golden5er
@Golden5er 4 года назад
Hi @Jabbers, what do you use to be able to draw on your screen like that? That's very cool!
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 4 года назад
Epic Pen
@ilejovcevski79
@ilejovcevski79 4 года назад
Very good video. The radial nature of the grid caught me completely by surprise, i was expecting a more traditional square one. This is supposed to be available from the next OB, but if memory serves, ED decided to postpone it for one week, so it's not yet available, right? P.S. i've been itching for a bullseye indicator quite a while now. I used all kind of improvisational techniques to simulate one. Good to see we finally have one. When you go to ground stab (Jester or RIO), is the reference point always centered on the TID by default? Or is the TID plane centered?
@nicgyrovague853
@nicgyrovague853 4 года назад
The reference point (YY) is positioned on the edge of the TID by default in gnd stab mode, until you use the TID offset function. So (without TID offset) the center of the TID is basically positioned half the TID range away from YY, in the direction of the configured nav grid heading. When using TID offset (which requires a spot/location hook), the TID is repositioned so that own aircraft appears on the spot hook location.
@ilejovcevski79
@ilejovcevski79 4 года назад
@@nicgyrovague853 good info, thanks! Spot i assume is related to using Jester to offset the TID?
@nicgyrovague853
@nicgyrovague853 4 года назад
@@ilejovcevski79 Not Jester as such, the RIO can make a spot (aka location) hook by using TID cursor full action on an empty space on the TID. This will cause the cursor to stick on that location, and subsequently pressing TID offset will "pan" the TID such that the aircraft is on that position on screen. Jester menu for navgrid has an option to center the aircraft on TID, which uses the TID offset functionality.
@ilejovcevski79
@ilejovcevski79 4 года назад
@@nicgyrovague853 ah, roger that. So there is no way of doing it in single player without switching to the RIO seat, and no way at all in multi player without a human RIO.
@GeFlixes
@GeFlixes 4 года назад
So, with NAVGRID, every Tomcat is it's own cute little Darkstar? Neat, but seems unnecessary with good BRA calls. How do the NAVGRID lines themselves help with communication, I suspect the main feature is the ability to coordinate targets with the talk codes? With the grid as reference for the "receiving" aircraft?
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 4 года назад
BRA calls or for individuals SA, BULLZ calls are for everyone's SA. You would have to coordinate with everyone to input the same YY reference point
@JoeyIsaacs
@JoeyIsaacs 4 года назад
Awesome vid as always Jabbers! Now, wheres the navgrid for the pilot's seat?! :D I need to get the BULLS call capabilities!
@AmechiAmanugi
@AmechiAmanugi 4 года назад
Looking at the Maykop chart I have no idea where you are getting the coordinates of the airfield. They don't seem to match what's on the chart.
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 4 года назад
Matches 1 of the runways, all you really need, i probably should have pointed it out. I also rounded, it doesnt need to be exact.
@AmechiAmanugi
@AmechiAmanugi 4 года назад
@@Jabbers Ahhh! Thank you! I thought that was the case but I just wasn't sure.
@ilejovcevski79
@ilejovcevski79 4 года назад
@@AmechiAmanugi i used this technique when i manually entered fixed points to act as a quasi bulls myself. Generally you are good enough with the degrees and the tens of minutes.
@breeze9076
@breeze9076 4 года назад
cant wait FOR UR JF 17 VIDEO
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 4 года назад
Don't expect much, I've only been given a week to learn it before it releases
@breeze9076
@breeze9076 4 года назад
@@Jabbers that's fine still Intertaning
@Phvpark
@Phvpark 4 года назад
why the navgrid only show at its maximum 180 degree instead of 360 degree?
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 4 года назад
I think the actual use case was fleet defense. So you would put it on top of where your fleet was, heading out toward the enemy direction. So only 1 direction was really needed at the time.
@tobywenman4769
@tobywenman4769 4 года назад
So is the nav grid unique to the aircraft? Because doesn't that mean you'd have to sync up the grids with your flight to make sure the callouts are accurate?
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 4 года назад
Correct and knowing your bullz location is something you should sync
@reillybrangan2182
@reillybrangan2182 4 года назад
That is the whole point of Bullseye, its a coordinate that everyone knows.
@0Ignition0
@0Ignition0 4 года назад
How do you use the HCU to move around in the TID?
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 4 года назад
HCU Half Action
@ilejovcevski79
@ilejovcevski79 4 года назад
@@Jabbers can Jester do it as well?
@blkspade23
@blkspade23 4 года назад
There is a difference between a heading and a bearing.
@ash_makes
@ash_makes 3 года назад
what is your video editor?
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 3 года назад
Adobe premiere
@SDsc0rch
@SDsc0rch 4 года назад
can that nav grid be centered on the carrier? does anybody know??
@Tonkotsu2k10
@Tonkotsu2k10 4 года назад
Yes. You can center the navgrid wherever you want.
@104thironmike4
@104thironmike4 4 года назад
Yes, you can set its "starting point" wherever you like, and mostly it was used like that, going out from the carrier group/ fleet.
@nicgyrovague853
@nicgyrovague853 4 года назад
Yes, but not automatically updated as the carrier moves. You can set YY (navgrid reference point) to any coordinate.
@SDsc0rch
@SDsc0rch 4 года назад
@@nicgyrovague853 - right that's not a problem though - the carrier will stay in a general vicinity as it turns into and out of the wind to launch and recover aircraft
@nicgyrovague853
@nicgyrovague853 4 года назад
@@SDsc0rch Yup, just wanted to note that in case people think it magically follows the carrier precisely.
@Wikkus
@Wikkus 4 года назад
My head just exploded :/
@tenkayruanaya2554
@tenkayruanaya2554 4 года назад
what about a new video about the mirage 2000 and the new cockpit .. please ..
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 4 года назад
Haven't flown that thing in a while ... might have to give it a go!
@tenkayruanaya2554
@tenkayruanaya2554 4 года назад
@@Jabbers haha must be full of dust that jet
@Phoenix_VR
@Phoenix_VR 4 года назад
@@Jabbers "That Thing" :D :D :D :D that bad huh?! lol
@mrbrianbrush
@mrbrianbrush 4 года назад
Im still very confused, it was very detailed but maybe too detailed to understand. Pilots are like 5 year olds and rios are 10 yearolds. Treat us as such haha
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 4 года назад
Maybe this will clear it up, maybe my understanding of it blinds me from the difficulty of understanding it. www.heatblur.se/F-14Manual/general.html#navigation-command-and-control-grid-nav-grid
@TheConqueror1453
@TheConqueror1453 4 года назад
aaah i guess i must set my nav grid on bullseye coordinates 6 sector 180 degree and heading will be pop-up group bra from bullseye ... and if i hook to contacts , TID will show me heading to bandits and range from me ? Did i understand true ?
@flywithusMSFS
@flywithusMSFS 4 месяца назад
I am watching the video tutorials to learn a module I have stupidly purchased for 55 US dollars only to realise that I dont even understand the language being spoken! I am fucked and I will never ever in this life learn anything about this. I am screwed 😢
@jadeybaby166
@jadeybaby166 4 года назад
Gods yet another reason im glad i never bought the tomcat. i wonder if they decided to scrap it because you needed to become an elder god to understand it
@Rlaxox
@Rlaxox 4 года назад
Have you seen F-14D like at all or are you trolling?
@delayed_control
@delayed_control 4 года назад
You don't need to show how to enter the coordinates key by key every time you make a video involving CAP, it's distracting and wasting time, you stop the explanation and play with the keyboard for 2 minutes. Other than that, great video.
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 4 года назад
Except that maybe people who never saw my other videos might not know, fast forward exists for your reasoning :)
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 4 года назад
Also it like 45 seconds of you life, I think you'll live 😂
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