These are all the deleted scenes from the 1997 laserdisc release. These deleted scenes were also included in the TV version of the film. None of them have been included on the DVD or Blu-ray release, unfortunately.
the scene where todd is helping neil with his lines should have been kept in. it really shows how deep their friendship was, and why todd was so greatly affected by neil's death. also, we haven't really seen todd like that in the movie -- loud & carefree. seems as though he could only truly be himself around neil.
I know I'm many years late but if they added that scene dock scene it would actually be genius. The fact that Neil quoted "To be or not to be, that is the question." From Hamlet which is a tragedy and describes how miserable life is. He is Contemplating whether it's worth living or to just kill himself.
If you're talking about the scenes here and why they weren't in the film originally, you must remember that some scenes aren't really necessary to the story once you put it together, plus the film can't be three hours long! This film was already over two hours and you have to have it at a certain length so there can be enough showings of it in one day.
Some of the scenes I can see why. For example, the eating left handed scene. That takes place after Neil's encounter with his dad and his dad making him quit the play. It is better to have it go directly to the scene later that evening where he talks to Keating. Plays better. Also, some of these scenes were cut for time. Remember, the film was already over 2 hours. You can't make the film 3 damn hours. Wouldn't work for this film.
@@outofcontextscenes you're only saying that after you've seen the film. If they released it at 3 hours I assure you, less people would have watched it.
@@yonatanschlussel okay lmao? At least they would still have one view- IT chapter two was three house and millions saw that in the theater, Gone with the wind is three and a half and look how many people watched it, End Game was three hours- the time doesn’t matter if it has a good plot and good actors.
@@outofcontextscenes it's not just time. It's budget and what would fit with the storyline and what wouldn't. Also the only reason anyone watched endgame was because it was the ENDGAME movie. Everything was building up to that movie
I think the scene where they pointed out that even the after school clubs where chosen for them would be an important part to leave in. As it underscores the reason why Neil was pushed off the brink. the boy had absolutely no agency in his life at all, even the little things someone else decided what was best for him. The play was the one thing he chose for himself is one and only taste of freedom, when both that and his friends which at that point where the only people he felt cared about him at all where ripped away, you had a person who felt he had nothing left and could no longer continue this prison.
Exactly as I was thinking! That also seems to go along with the left handed spaghetti scene. Their whole lives were practically controlled, having clubs chosen for them, being told off for eating with the ‘incorrect’ hand. I can completely sympathize with these character in having their lives controlled, leading to of course Neil would want to break out and do something he loved, and something that he chose for himself. Only to have his father come in and once again exhibit the control he wants over his son so badly.
@@piperc343 I think they cut the dinner scene because they wanted to go right from Neil's talking to his dad, who tells him to quit the play, to Neil seeking help. I think it added to the story. It's a funny scene with them doing that, but there was already them doing "daring" stuff that maybe they felt they didn't need it. Similar to why the scene with the record player in class was cut. They had enough scenes of Keating teaching the class already. As to the extracurricular activities, it could've stayed in, but maybe the point was already made that Neil had to drop that activity he liked, no questions asked.
the very small foreshadowing in this movie is gorgeous. the second time watching it was haunting. the suicide references and death references were everywhere. the scene with todd and neil running lines always gets to me because of how the character neil chooses to compare himself to is hamlet. he quotes "to be or not to be. that is the question." the most famous suicide monologue ever. haunting.
6:42 the scene by the window is a recurring motif. Just before Neil dies, he looks out of the window as he puts his crown on. He looks dreamily out of the window just after his father pulled him out of the School Annual too. It's like the outside world beyond the window represents freedom and his dreams, just like in the play The Midsummer Night's Dream or the forest where the Dead Poets' Society gathers. And Neil looks longingly out of the window from within the building where he's trapped.
The place Todd & neil practice Neil's role is the same place todd ran to and fell when he heard about his death. NOW it seems logical why he ran there. HOW COULD THEY CUT IT OUT HOW AND WHY
@@yonatanschlussel Exactly. How long can the film be? It was already over two hours. Also, some of the stuff was just the same things that were already done in the film to some degree so it wasn't necessary. All films have deleted scenes.
Why did they deleted the scene with Todd and Neil😞. It's the scene where you can see Neil and Todd's friendship growing and the reason why Todd was so devastated after hearing the passing of Neil. It's only around Neil where Todd can actually be so carefree. 😞😞😞
Becuase they didn't need it. They had the scene with the writing set birthday president. And believe it or not, Peter Weir knows more about making movies than you do. And William Anderson knows more about editing movies than you do. That is why they both were nominated for major awards for this movie.
i personally think that a lot of the todd scenes should've been kept in becuase it helps develop his character, it was kind of strange to me how he went from basically just a quiet background character to the main after neils death
Eating with left hand scene was kind of iconic, gives more insight into how "hellton" invaded every little thing about their students in the name of tradition, even with which hand they should use for eating, so glad Charlie stuffing meatball made it lighter xD
@@skippersoup380 the whole point of the scene is them eating with their wrong hand. If you watch, he switches back when the teacher tells him to, then immediately swaps again as soon as Hager is out of sight. I’m aware of the “proper” technique. This is a matter of the boys following Keating and trying new experiences.
Many of these deleted scenes are included in a special director's cut of the movie that is rarely seen. I remember ABC broadcasting this movie after its theatrical run, and the version they aired was the director's cut. Many of these deleted scenes help explain later aspects of the film. I don't know why they were ever pulled from the final cut.
Ummm. no. It was not the "director's cut" shown on ABC. It was the edited for TV cut that not only removes some scenes for content, but adds some in to make the movie fit into a time window. A director's cut is when a director originally WANTED to have a certain version, but was overridden by a studio, or producer, or whatever. And that is NOT what happened here.
@@winup9417 Well, they wanted to show Knox having some sort of challenge in his life. Had Keating not been around, he might not have tried to pursue Chris and just brushed off his feelings.
I watched the director’s cut for English class and it was my first time watching the movie so I was confused when people said these scenes weren’t in the actual movie
7:34 "FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I FEEL COMPLETELY ALIVE!" - NEIL IM STILL CRYING! THIS MADE ME FEEL SAD EVEN MORE. he was so happy rehearsing for his audition.
7:23 "Think about it. Most people, if they're lucky, get to live half an exciting life, right? If i get this part I lived a dozen of great lives. TO BE OR NOT TO BE? THAT IS THE QUESTION." it such a shame that they deleted this part. The foreshadowing of Neil's death in here is so such. "to be or not to be?" a famous suicide qoute we just got robbed HELLA BAD!
I think the scene at 11:44 should have stayed in. There were hints that Keating possibly connected with his fellow teacher, such as him sharing tea or the wave he gives as Keating leaves for good. Even at dinner when Keating impresses him with his poetry... "No, Keating." I think this sends the message that even the old folks who maintain the ideas of tradition still have a side of them vulnerable to change. Keating definitely reached this man (I don't know the character's name offhand) even if he didn't completely change his views on education.
Well, we see he did bond with Keating. In the scene after Todd is forced to sign the paper, McAllister, the teacher, is outside with students teaching them terms of the building in Latin, so we see that he did learn a bit from Keating, who he waves to, knowing he is leaving the school.
as much as i agree with you, and i wish they went a bit more into keating and who he had impressed on instead of softly insinuating it or giving little glimpses, i also understand why they didn’t. they wanted the movie to focus as much as they could on the boys and how much keatings teachings effected them and their lives, and ultimately how it could effect anyone, but especially those who are younger, but i definitely feel we were robbed. lol.
6:42 that was such a touching part. You could really see how badly Neil wanted to be in the play! I wish they redid the movie on the dvd and put that part in.
We were robbed of the scene with Todd helping Neil with his lines because not only does it show how their friendship was different from everyone else’s but it also shows the significance of when he dies how Todd runs down to the dock because that was a place where they bonded
Still upset they didn’t leave the scene where Todd find out about neils death and says something like “he’ll beat neil’s dad, next time he seems him and doesn’t care what happens to him.” And where he clearly shows he doesn’t want to and will not sign the paper and spoke how he finally felt, showing he did have it in him and cared about people and is more than just a shy guy who doesn’t know how to stand up for himself
lol im late to this but I think they really should have kept in the scene with Todd and Neil bonding. The way they were so loud and care-free on the dock and being who they wanted to be hit hard. This would have made sense when, after Neil's death, Todd runs to the dock, looking for Neil and for who they both wanted to be.
i wish i had seen this movie as a boy rather than as a man. It's never too late I suppose, but part of me thinks I might just have been a different man, or at the very least, a different boy.
I had a poster of Neal against the window at 7:05 and always wondered which scene it was from. Too bad it didn't make the final cut. And Tood's scenes should have remained too.
We'd must convince Peter Weir to release a new blu-ray Director's cut edition with all deleted scenes, edited in (Knox and Chris's kiss after Neil's play included) and possibly dubbed for international markets with same voices.
+HQBacon Cannot remember if I got you an answer about that question: I found that long scene, filmed around the cave, never used anywhere in any theatrical or home edition, as a special bonus special scene on the bluray international release. Hope something will happen soon or later about a new complete, director full cut version of this masterpiece.
I can see that they had to limit the time to some degree, but it all of these scenes all add valuable things to the overall narrative. There had better be an extended cut released soon, or I’ll have to edit it together myself.
You can't use every scene you shoot in a film. Sometimes it slows the film down, as you edit it. Also, you going to release a three hour film of this? Studio won't go for it. It was already over 2 hours to begin with.
These deleted scenes were in the theatrical release in 1989. Not sure why people are acting like they weren't. In the video releases they were left out, but they were in the original theatrical release.
I mean.. Okay let's say I can accept not seeing all the scenes in the movie.. But the Neil and Todd scene.. I feel beyond robbed.. How could they leave that out?! This scene could be one of the most beautiful ones, what with the two boys bonding and seeing Todd being actually loud for once, and carefree and happy! And Neil so happy, doing what he loves with a person who actually cares about what he wants! There is the tragic foreshadowing when Neil recites Hamlet.. But at that exact moment the characters are happy and we are happy and God! The scene should have been in the film
Yeah, you see more of his stutter here. He does it a little near the end when he says, "That is not true Cameron and you know it. He didn't put us up to anything. N-Neil loved acting."
The actor who plays Headmaster Mr. Nolan, Norman Long, was 73 during filming and is still alive and acting today at age 98 !!! He was married for 75 years; his wife died in 2011.
His name is Norman *Lloyd* actually, not Long, and he's still alive and working! Wikipedia says "at 103 years of age [he] is the oldest working Hollywood actor as of 2018".
they cut out the line-practicing scene because they knew if they included it they would have to confirm the romance between neil and todd, i swear to god
@@treenanelson2038 Every part of this is authentic! He confirmed in an interview that Peter Weir didn't;t want them to act, but to be their authentic selves
Personally I would keep 1:02-2:57 extracurriculars 6:42-7:08 Neil looking out window 7:09-8:15 Neil and Todd 10:00-11:40 Neil and Mr. Keating 12:47-3:10 boys singing at church 14:06-14:20 Mr. Keating and "the death of Neil Perry was a tragedy"
I wish there was a cut with all of the scenes filmed, including these, the scene with Keating joining them in the cave, the scene at Neil's funeral... Etc
The cave scene is on here, but I didn't think it was shot well. I saw the funeral scene in another video on here where a guy is shooting home video of the filming of that.
They should've kept the scene of Neil and anderson talking about how excited he was about acting again because it lets him live dozens of exciting lives. And to show more how close they were.
The way Charlie just 1000 yard stares as everyone else sings is Haunting. You have to wonder what he must be thinking in that moment, having been one of the Neil's closest friends.
The only scenes out of these that I'm glad they didn't use are the ones of them eating with their left hands (although it was pretty funny) and the one where the principle was assigning them their extra-curricular activites
Nir Da Yeah, I think it is better to go right to the scene later that night when Neil goes to Keating about his dilemma he just had with his dad. As to the extracurricular activities scene, it is to show a payoff from the earlier moment when Neil's dad forces him to not take the school annual. That's why Nolan seems surprised-he didn't know about the conflict.
I found the "left hand" and assignment scenes very interesting and revealing. Shows how restrictive not only Neil's home life was, but even the school was dictating their lives. I mean, the school telling you what extra-curriculars you have to do? Wow. Sure, the film is FINE without those two scenes, but had they been included would have brought a stronger insight as to what these boys were going through.
BoltManiac I was thinking about your comment on Nolan assigning the extra-curricular activities. I think he also does it based on what the boys want. Notice when he got to Neil he asked about no school annum, as though Neil had not put it down on his list.
I the shot at 11:00 should have been kept in because it shows how Neil doesn’t want to wake up to his own life. It would help show the audience how trapped in his life he has begun to feel
0:25. NEIL: So what do you think of my father? TODD: You don't want to know. The DVD doesn't include the deleted scenes. The only time the deleted scenes were shown was in a CBS broadcast of the movie in late 1991 or early 1992. Where can I find them?
I just saw this film a few days ago and not only did I feel a strong bond with the boys and as I being an 18 year old guy myself, but especially with Neil as I too want to be an actor and my mom doesn't support me. Unlike Neil's dad however she is ok with me trying it out. When Neil talks about finally finding his passion I related to that so much as I had the exact same euphoric feeling when discovering my passion for acting. This movie made me cry and I'll be a better man and actor for it.
I think 14:24 minutes more in this movie should be there, it’s so important. But I’m such happy that scene when Todd screaming and running after Neil’s dead was in the snow and not in the school like in the book.
I have seen this movie so many times. It's easily one of my all-time favorites. I'm even writing a research paper of sorts about it. SOMEHOW, I've never seen these before! It's an belated birthday and early Christmas present wrapped into one awesome video where Neil performs Shakespeare with Todd and I have never been happier, wow.
there is so much good stuff that'd do wonders for the movie (im not gonna start about Todd and Neil but damn) but the part that killed me the most was definetely the one with eating with left hand. like 1. Knox trying to trash Nolan 2. Charlie looking at Nolan with ABSOLUTE DISGUST 3. Meeks trying his best 4. they all having so much fun
i know why they did it but I really wish they didn't delete the scenes with them in the office (it showed how little control Neil had over his life and how much Todd has developed) and the scene between Neil and Todd. That scene showed how close they were and really displayed Neils love for acting. Soo tempted to edit the movie and add these scenes to it lol
7:14 this scene is everything what i wanted to see today I love it! I think if this scene had been in move relationship between neil and todd would have been more developed. In this scene we can see that Todd can be truly himself only if Neili is next to him🥺
The DVD featured showed Neil's funeral where Keating tried to come up to the Perrys but the father said he was going to hold him personally responsible for Neil's death! Too bad they don't show the entire scene anywhere whether on here or anywhere! Does anybody know where to find the scene i refer to?!
