Dr. Tabor, I just want to say Thank You. 🙏🏻 I have been watching you on documentaries for years. You have always been my favorite Historian in Biblical Scholarship. I would be remiss if I didn’t let you know how much I appreciate all the time and effort you have put into your work/research over the years, and the knowledge you continue to share today. I have learned so much from you! I only found you on RU-vid within the past year, and I have been hooked ever since. When I found out you have a blog, I was in shock that I hadn’t realized it sooner. 🤦🏻♀️ I have spent the last 25 years of my own life doing general research on World Religions, more as a hobby than anything else. Although, the older I get, it seems the further and deeper I want to go. When it comes to Christianity and Jesus, I am fascinated by everything you put out into the World. I could continue, but I won’t, LoL. 😂 I just want you to know how much I appreciate you and your hard work. Peace & Blessings!
I like some of Prof. Tabor's work, by not all of it. He observation of the Gospel account about Jesus entering a home in Sidon was important. Jesus was known by the authorities as "Yeshu ben Pantera," and the Sidon story adds some understanding as to why.
This package has become a staple part of my day.As a Christian I always knew the narratives didnt add up.I am so greatful for these insights. Everyday I have a new understanding and am re- evaluating my faith based on these insights.
I always figured they Shakespeared the bible now I know it’s true bible as literature not always history as Werner Keller and archaeologists are discovering Louis lamour does the same with his sackett family sagas
Dr Tabor I so appreciate all your work. I don’t understand why people accuse you of “preaching”. You don’t appear in that way to me in the least bit. In fact I appreciate your presentation of the information because you allow people to make the decision on their beliefs for themselves. This is coming from someone raised in the Christian faith. However after studying intensely for the last year or so I’m starting to not want to call myself a Christian because I don’t think people fully understand what that actually entails. I think people interested in debating on these topics ought to listen to your research so they can get their facts straight. Or any scholar for that matter. Because the historical “Christians” were far different to what we have today. Thanks again! The series on death and afterlife has been incredibly informative. Blessings, Samantha
Call yourself a 'Nazarene'- a follower of the original understandings of and teachings of Yeshua in his Jewish time period, not influenced by later Church doctrines and dogma.
They accuse him and all other scholars of preaching because people are extremely ignorant and emotional. They received a set of fairy tales and without questioning they just accept. They actually think they are smart. If anyone dares to question anything, these adults turn into children and begin to shout, to become shrill, to have tantrums. In person, their entire demeanor shifts, and a demonic power takes hold, and they lose their proverbial shyke. These are the same folk who claim so much knowledge yet truly believe the Earth is 6k years old and that snakes can talk. Yet they don't believe in the tooth fairy.
This is the mark you didn't miss. Tabor may be your given name, but surely you've put together a mountain of history and information which has made, and will make your name You are the man who found Jesus's name.
yeshua was already translated to iesous in the septuagint. a priest present in ezra nehemiah and chronicles. commonly seen as Jeshua, actually hebrew says Yeshua and in the sept. you find Iesous. If you wanted to know an example of a case before Jesus of that name going from hebrew to greek. the spelling “Jesus” being latin.
@@methylmike So how is James Tabor the man who found Jesus’ name? I’m not the one who made some weird ambiguous statement. Either you mean literally or figuratively. Sound like you worship this guy.
@@ChopinIsMyBestFriend i hardly worship him, lol, i appreciate his efforts have you read his book? have you looked into his life's work, and the question he was trying to answer? of course he could be wrong. time will tell. for now he's made a very convincing argument. he has convinced me. and yes, i mean it someone figuratively. actually i mean it historically. the fathers name, the last name is the most important name you are given (this is why i added the line about his own last name) we all know jesus's mother, but we all DO NOT know his father. the good dr seems to have found the father. GET IT?
@@methylmike That would be an anti christian hypothesis. Going against the great deal of evidence to the contrary. The only thing you can do if you are atheist or deny Christ I suppose. I have his books and have looked into his work and found many things he’s said especially one blatant lie about Peter and Jesus that made that made me completely lose respect for him. You sound like a typical follower.
Wow! I've taken 3 nights to listen to this. Thank you for a thorough historical presentation! You've confirmed my thought/beliefs on death, burial , and resurrection.
This is really interesting. It’s wonderful to hear scholars research and understanding. Personal experiences are best and create assurances but written texts help those persons who aren’t acquainted with the living Jesus. Meat for the newly formed Christian. Thank you💖
Dr Tabor, sir. After many, many hours of seeing your presentations, and reading your posts, I want to say, thank you. As one of my professors, in medical school said, more than 40 years ago: someone can't ask for the title of Master, but also can't refuse it. Dr Tabor, you are a Master in your field of knowledge.
Oh! I’m so grateful for your lucid presentation! I’d love to join your Zoom classes but having graduated from Harvard in New Testament Studies, I wouldn’t want to interfere with the flow of your beautiful exegesis! Nevertheless, I am with you in Spirit, Professor Tabor! Keep it coming!Bravo!🥰
It's a great deconstruction of the gospel accounts and shows just how confusion has arisen with many other parts of the new testament Gospels. I really appreciate what u have done with this work❤
If the 170 lb. corpse had been moved, the three lbs. of burial cloths would have been also taken with the body. The cloths were stained with post-mortem blood that was required by Jewish law to be interned with the corpse. But the Gospels record that these cloths were found in the otherwise empty tomb. The secret corpse removal hypothesis doesn't hold up.
According to another theory, Jesus survived after being on the cross for about six or seven hours and in the tomb for two nights, and was then alive for another 40 days before he was "taken out" in the same way that the Romans described the cremation and deification of an emperor in the language of the time. Six hours is a surprisingly short time to be crucified, which is meant to be slow torture, which is why Pilate was surprised when Joseph asked for the body. The young man who announced that Jesus had gone ahead to Galilee was probably opening the tomb and letting Jesus out.
The images of a crucified person on the Shroud show human corpse in an advanced state of rigor mortis. A pool of post mortem blood has stained the Shroud under the dorsal image. This person is deceased. Futhermore, the corpse has been removed from the shroud by some unknown non-mechanical means. None of the blood stains were disturbed and none of the linen threads were torn. This corpse seems to have vanished into thin air.@@danielmalinen6337
The "random theories" are not supported by any evidence. The hypothysis that the corpse of Yeshu ben Pantera dematerialized from its sealed tomb is supported by the historical accounts and by the forensic examinations of his burial cloth. @@Ghost_bros
This scribal editing is not a scandal and does not eliminate these portions from being a part of the story or what God intends us to have. For some this seems as a scandal… but this is because the modern western context of the Bible has been misrepresented for quite some time. The final representation of the Hebrew Bible, or as some still call the Old Testament is a direct representation of this highly edited scribal formation. It’s a part of the process and the spirit of God is involved throughout it all. That’s the real question is to whether you believe the spirit of God dwells within these texts and their final formation. If you don’t, this may seem scandalous. If you do, this is a part of the process for how these texts have been generated for thousands of years. And it’s not scandalous, the text does not hide it. You are spot on and a needed resource in this area. I truly believe God gifts men like you to be able to shake the worldview and rattle the cage of the modern western context. Many a preacher or early Bible student may have a trying test of their faith Because of it. But no matter what if God is real, it is up to his spirit to preserve the truth for those seeking after it. I actually see you as a beautiful part of that story and I hope to interview you someday. To anyone watching these videos and having their faith shaken, come check our channel out and see what the spirit of God is all about.
God may be in these texts, sure, I don’t doubt that (and am a believer in God but have a slightly different interpretation of all of this), this does not mean that people may not change things, which the Bible actually warns you about with the verse that speaks about: (anyone who changes the word of God will be punished. ). That wouldn’t be in the Bible if it was impossible to do. The Bible also speaks about a “great deception” that many would fall prey to.
Doesn’t Paul say that those who will be here when Jesus returns, their body will be changed or transformed without dying? Their body seems to change from physical to spiritual.
I liked your presentation as I perceived it as different "plays" each with different scenes while showing the growing complexity in the later "plays" as time moved on and new "traditions" evolved. You laid it out in one hour but it will be far more to get my arms around it all. Thank you!!!
-'cThere never was multiple Gospels by multiple authors. The Gospel was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.
@@termination9353where can we find indisputable documents proving that Lazarus wrote the original apostles gospels stories? That supposedly came from all of the major followers of Jesus? AKA the original apostles themselves. Are you aware of the codex sinaticus? Or any other types of different codex's? That tells different versions of events that happened in those early days of formulating the old and new testament books? RU-vid itself seems to have a scripted narrative that the owners want to portray as historically, literal, and factual.
@@donalddotson-cw5ll The Gospel itself tells us who wrote it and when and that the witnesses gave deposition testimony. John 21:24 [refering to previous sentence "the disciple whom Jesus loved"] "This is the disciple[whom Jesus loved/ Lazarus] which testifieth of these things, AND WROTE THESE THINGS: and we[Apostles] know that his testimony is true." John 11:5 Now Jesus LOVED Martha, and her sister(MARYMAGDALENE), and LAZARUS John 11:3 Therefore his sisters sent unto him{Jesus], saying, Lord, behold, HE[Lazarus] WHOM THOU LOVEST is sick.. John11:36 Then said the Jews, Behold how he[Jesus] LOVED him[Lazarus]! And Acts 10 confirms that Peter saw Cornelius had a copy of this Gospel when he entered Cornelius home.
Awesome teaching! I now understand why when in a church or Knesset of Yahshua setting, I only feel a blank while everyone else is screaming 😱 and going into paraxysms when they sing and shake and jump and scream about Jesus rose! He rose, oh he rose! And all the time i am still trying to work out just how he died on Friday, laid in the grave or went to hell for three days and then GOT UP on Sunday. I blame the private schools i went to for teaching me how to count.
As I understand the process in place at the time, there were communal stalls essentially where dead bodies were placed during the rotting phase, and they were located some distance from the population so that people don't have to experience any smell and/or corpse 'pollution'. After some amount of time, someone then goes to the stall, removes the boulder/rock there that keeps animals out, and gathers up the desiccated remains into a 'bone box'. That process is gruesome enough, as it requires some amount of physical force to separate the various limbs from each other for placement into that 'bone box'.
One thing I will Say is that the jews couldn't have killed Jesus Jewish law also prohibited deliberations and rulings in a capital case being made at night. A person could be tried and acquitted on the same day-but not convicted. If there was an initial verdict of guilty, the trial was to be adjourned until the following day, when the decision could be reaffirmed. During that time, members of the Sanhedrin were permitted to change their minds, although only to acquit if originally there had been an argument for conviction. There then was a vote and a final verdict pronounced. Thirteen of the twenty-three members of the Sanhedrin had to render a guilty vote to convict (Mishnah Sanhedrin, 4.1, 5). It is this elaborate procedure that precluded capital cases from being adjudicated on the eve of a Sabbath or feast day. The court would not know whether the defendant was to be acquitted or convicted until it convened the next day and its decision finalized. If guilty, an execution the day after that would defile the sanctity of these holy days. Indeed, Augustus himself had decreed that Jews "be not obliged to go before any judge on the Sabbath-day, nor on the day of the preparation to it, after the ninth hour" (Antiquities of the Jews, XVI.6.2). This excused Jews from appearing before a Roman tribunal when they otherwise would be preparing to celebrate the Sabbath that Friday afternoon. The Synoptic account of the Sanhedrin considering such a case on the eve of Passover is therefore suspect-as is the discrepancy between their intention not to arrest Jesus "on the feast day, lest there be an uproar of the people" (Mark 14:2) and his actual arrest on that very day. Curious, too, is the mention of Simon who, having "coming out of the country" (14:21), was compelled to carry the cross of Jesus. The presumption is that he had been working in the countryside and walked into town-both of which would have violated the injunction to "not do any work" on the Sabbath. In Acts, for example, the distance from the Mount of Olives to Jerusalem was "a sabbath day's journey" (1:12). According to Josephus, this was five stadia or furlongs, about a thousand yards (Antiquities of the Jews, XX.8.6.), which is to say that it was short enough not to constitute "work." Josephus of Arimathea also was busy on Passover day, asking Pilate for the body of Jesus, buying a linen shroud, wrapping Jesus in it, and laying him in the tomb (Mark 15:43, 46).
I really appreciate all the work and effort you put into these presentations. It's a fresh new perspective, on an old topic. But you were correct. Once into the presentation I was hooked.😮😊
Well done. Very informative. You provide enough information for me to form my own thoughts. Outside of pure faith, we cannot be 100% sure, but it helps for our faith to be based upon facts and reason. After all, as it is said in Job that we were not present at creation, there are things that we just don't know.
...what we 'Know' is that Knowledge is the acceptance of ideas In LIGHT of the Evidence--while Faith is the acceptance of ideas In SPITE Of the Evidence...
Wow Mr Tabor I always learn from your postings. I can now see more clearly that you hypothesis on the resurrection is probably the most plausible way to believe in the raising up of Jesus the Christ. By connecting Paul a little of Mark and the writings of the book of John. No one actually believed in a resuscitation of the body for this event would have surely been echoed to the known world even outside of Rome in that day. But we get no record of that. I think as you've said Luke and Matthew are embellishments of the story. That todays preachers profit off of.
After a few of your Paul videos I remembered that I actually was good friends at a Christian college with some modern day Paul’s. They had a shared vision of Jesus coming to them to share the gospel in the midst of a shroom and marijuana fueled evening. They were definitely not the Christian types so it was interesting to know them and hear stories of their friendship before the vision. Even though I’m now not a Christian after years of research, I now think back to them wondering if you could ever turn your back on belief after seeing something like that. You’re basically a slave for life at that point.
Thank you so much for your lessons. I interpret the appearance on the Road to Damascus as the apostles literally speaking with a stranger but experiencing the revelation that this stranger possesses divinity in the same way a Hindi might bow to the divinity of another. This is less sci-fi, but I personally felt this epiphany from time to time. It's dealing we are all one. As Christians, we say stuff everywhere that all Christians are collectively -- "the body of Christ". To say that symbolically is easy peasy. But to sit and ponder that point quite literally -- to look at humanity more as a bee hive and not just the bees -- is to begin to experience the divinity oneness of the Universe or God or Tao or ... I think the later Gospel resurrection enhancements were made to explain it to children. The early church obviously didn't know Piaget Childhood Developmental Stages -- but they would have to explain it to children like we about the "spirit of Christmas". Luke asks Obi-Wan why he had told him that Darth Vader killed his father. Obi-Wans reply was that -- "From a certain perspective it was true". Same thing here I believe. It's no less true -- but this is the closest way to describing the truth of the revelation -- and not less important because of the lack of literalness. Rather, the "rebirth" of reality framing is required and mind-blowing. My two cents. That's all.
There never was multiple Gospels by multiple authors. The Gospel was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.
@@MikeJJJenkin That was my original intent when harmonizing the Gospels. Problem is the status quo doesn't want what such a publication and movie would reveal. Si Iink harmonized gspl en mi About TABulator.
@@termination9353 I’m confused. 1st u said Lazarus wrote the gospel but just now u said it’s nonsensical that Lazarus wrote the gospel. Lazarus is nowhere in this scenario.
@@termination9353 “there was never multiple gospels by multiple authors. The gospel was originally one book, *written by Lazarus in consultation w the apostles and published soon after Jesus left them on their own.* The religion was hijacked by Rome, the gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives….”.
Insightful presentation as always. Looks like the gospel depictions reveal Jesus coming back about a dozen times after his death. Those awaiting the parousia should call the event the "Thirteenth Coming" instead of the second.
I totally believe in the integrity of your work. ❤😊 I absolutely believe the family had an interest in protecting his tomb and moving it. Yes, Paul's account is right.
Very interesting video. My only question is why would the burial party not communicate with the followers of Jesus that the body had been moved, thus stifling the idea of bodily resurrection/assumption that the later traditions claim? If all that happened was that Jesus’ body was moved, is that enough to start a tradition of the empty tomb as the conclusion to Jesus’ story? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.
Dr. Tabor I continue to thank you for this incredibly important education. This kind of thoughtful and thorough examination of the subject matter is priceless. It's not exaggerating to say you've changed my life.
Thank you James for sharing this with us. I would love to know what the title of John Cook's book is? I really appreciate your scholarship and all the valuable teachings and information you share with all of us. Bless you.
I had a kind of visionary experience of Jesus, so this idea seems very plausible to me. I don't know how we are to take these things or what the implications are for faith, but it is very convincing as an explanation.
In my opinion Dr Tabor has the most believable take on the death and ressurection of Jesus. I truly believe that Paul and the Apostles saw Jesus's Glorified body and not his flesh and blood body! I also believe Dr Tabor's investigation of the Talpiot tomb being the Jesus family tomb. Bravo Dr Tabor, you're an Ace! 😊
I'm having a tough time with the reburial idea. If Joseph of Arimathea did a temporary burial and intended to move the body to a permanent location just a day or two later, wouldn't he have mentioned that to those mourning Jesus? The idea that Jesus' followers couldn't keep track of the location of the corpse reduces the story to a comedy of errors. Body , body, who's got the body?
There never was multiple Gospels by multiple authors. The Gospel was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.
The gospels were written decades after the death of Jesus by men who had never met Jesus, never met anyone who HAD met Jesus. The bodies of those crucified by the Romans were rarely buried. That was part of the horror. Your body would be taken down and thrown in a ditch to be consumed by wild animals. Thousands of Jews were crucified in first century Palestine. Archeologists have found one body.
@@termination9353Please cite a source for that. We know the gospels were written between 70 and 100 CE. I’ve been studying this stuff since I was 16. I’m 72 now. I’ve read hundreds of books on the historical Jesus and the development of Christianity and never heard of this Lazarus theory. We know that Mark’s gospel was written first, at the end of or just after the Roman Jewish War of 66 to 71 CE. Matthew and Luke were both written in the mid 80’s using Mark and the lost Q gospel as their sources. John was written around 100 and bears very little resemblance to the synoptic gospels.
@@PC-vg8vnthere is no evidence that Jesus was buried at all. The Romans rarely allowed the burial of the crucified. That was part of the horror of it. Your body was taken down and tossed in a ditch to be eaten by animals.
The Passover that was going to be eaten was eaten at the Eve of the 15 th at unleavened bread was on a Wednesday that year, so that was called a high Sabbath, Joseph and Nicodemous immediately took the body, Nickodemus was buying the spices while Mary Magdeline and her friends were watching Joseph was preparing the body but Nicodemus had not yet brought the burial supplies, so Mary Magdeline thought that he was buried improperly then she left because the Passover dinner was to be eaten, and then Nikodemus comes after with the supplies and the quickly prepared the body, because they had to get back and Mikveh themselves before the evening came so they would be ritually clean for the Passover lamb to be eaten before dusk. So the 15 th of the month was a high Sabbath so Mary could not annointed his body because the High Sabbath, because she didn’t see Joseph and Nikodemus annointed the Body, the next day was the weekly Sabbath on sundown Friday till Sundown Saturday so she couldn’t annoint the Body till Sunday, but Yeshua was raised Saturday late afternoon on the Sabbath, so then thinking she needed to properly annoint Yeshua’s body came early Sunday but Yeshua was already raised on the Sabbath, that Sunday was the Feast of the sheaf wave offering of the new barley firstfruits, and Yeshua had not ascended to the father to present the firstfruits of the Saints that were risen when Yeshua was risen that’s why he told Mary not to touch him, but after he presented the first saints to Yehovah in heaven he came back down and revealed himself to the disciples on the road to Emmaus. Your idea of the resurection is Greek idea of a disembodied spirit, the Hebraic idea of resurection simply means to get up, where we are glorified we still have our same looks but simply transformed, look at Ezekials vision of the dry bones, why did the Patriarchs desire to be buried in the land of Israel, Joseph made the children of Israel promis to bring his bones back because they did associate their bones to the self, in fact the word for self in Hebrew is etsem which means bones. The resurrected body is a glorified body it is not bound by our physical laws, it’s just a higher reality where we move in Yehovah’s power. Flesh and blood cannot enter the Kingdom of God, but Yeshua himself he was not a ghost or spirit but and he said touch me and see that a spirit does not have flesh and bone, not flesh and blood but flesh and bone. So there is a definate idea of maintaining your self but moving in a spiritual plane.
Unfortunately reconstructing these things cannot happen because the truth has been preserved by the true Assembly of Yeshua and they were Jewish believers called the Notzerim and the Notzerim was driven underground because of great persecution, but that ancient Messianic believers have come to surface for these last days in which I’m a part of the puzzle is easy to put together when One returns back to the true God of Israel whose name is Yehovah, and he commanded that his people kept his appointed times and feasts until you become the part of the original assembly and faith and return back to the Torah or the instructions in his words the Hebrew word for repentance goes way beyond the Greek and western idea of making a change of mind and a Utirn but th pe Hebrew word I’d Shuv, which means a return those who truly repent leave the false lies and traditions of the western Church and returns by going back to the Torah in which Yeshua never destroyed.
I think the women were afraid and didn't tell anyone because they thought that they were being played. Smart single women. "Somebody is messing with us".
The question to ask is what extra components of mark are not found in the others. If the others were written first and Mark knew of them why speak of the account of resurrection multiple times?
Much appreciate your rigor and thoroughness Dr Tabor -- it's very evident how significant you feel these points are for a correct understanding. Perhaps there is even one more consideration that gives weight to your conclusions. If the ritual we know as the Last Supper and the Eucharist is taken at face value as described, it is possible to see how it could establish a connection between Jesus and the disciples that would survive his death, for the purpose of further communication and instruction. That is, the disciples' nascent or developed faculties are awakened by the Master's fully realised presence, with its promise for all men and women.
If the apostles did not experience a physical resurrection of Christ, as it seems to indicate in Luke, as you said where they observed the nail prints in his hands and the spear marks in his side, why did Pieter use Psalm 16 in his first sermon on Pentecost that says “you will not abandon me to the grave nor will you let your holy ones see decay. That sounds like a bodily resurrection. The spirit does not seed decay. Who was David talking about and Psalm 16 Pieter seems to think he was talking about Jesus that he was a profit that he looked ahead and predicted the resurrection. Would love to hear your comments.
19:30 Great video series, thanks for making them. Super tiny nitpick, Passover is observed for eight days only in the Diaspora (based on uncertainty in the declaration of the new moon). In Israel they would have only observed the Biblical seven days.
I like the idea of a reburial. I've been wondering if they could have moved his body to Lazarus's empty tomb in Bethany. It was available, after all, and nearby. Is it possible that Lazarus and his sisters Mary and Martha (and perhaps Simon the Leper) were related to Jesus? He seems to have been very close to them, but how could he have become acquainted with them in the first place? He lived in Nazareth; they were miles away in Bethany, just outside of Jerusalem. But if they were related, he probably would have known them since childhood. Another question: In Acts 12:12, when Peter escapes from prison in Jerusalem, he heads for "the house of Mary, the mother of John whose other name was Mark." Is this Mary the sister of Lazarus and Martha? Is Mark, the supposed author of our earliest gospel, her son? The family seems to have been wealthy. That leads me to believe Mark would have been educated, which would mean that Jesus had at least one follower who wasn't an illiterate peasant. Might he have written a gospel (though not our Gospel of Mark, since it seems to follow Paul's teaching) or perhaps a book of Jesus's sayings, like Q?
P.S. Thank you for the recommendations in your "Tabor Bookshelf" section. I'm reading Hugh Schonfield's "The Passover Plot" now and I just love it. You mentioned Jane Schaberg in this video in relation to the section on John 20:1 - 10. I found her information on your blog. Can't wait to get her book, "The Resurrection of Mary Magdalene." Thanks again, Dr. Tabor.
The gospel of Mark was not written by an apostle. It was written by an anonymous author at or near the end of the Jewish Roman war, around 70CE, long after the death of Jesus.
Bart's take is pretty interesting as well. Jesus hung on the stake until dogs and other scavengers tear him apart. In keeping with Roman tradition of crusfixion.
It is interesting. I have an observation regarding the Clementine Literature (written ca 37-40 AD?) which precedes anything written in the NT. In the CLs Peter does a lot of teaching on Jesus's teachings. In all of the CLs, Peter only mentions an empty tomb once (CR Book 1:42). He only mentions the crucifixion once as well as if to say "yeh, the event happened", and he didn't dwell on it, and moved on from there with the essentials of the teachings. Almost as if the event were common knowledge and didn't need any rehashing.
There never was multiple Gospels by multiple authors. The Gospel was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.
@@dirtypickle77 ever hear of the parable of the sower who scatters his seed amongst the thorns and cracks but some fall on good ground? It’s in the Gospel.
Curious to know why in a talk about death and afterlife discussed in New Testament accounts you don't mention the 'day of the zombies' in Jerusalem... or the fact that there is zero evidence for it outside of those NT accounts. Knowing what you know about those times how do you think the Romans would have reacted to seeing / hearing about a mass resurrection of the dead?
Im 50 yrs old yst i can author 1st hand accounts of my great grandma and her elder friends born in 1880s wake of the american civil war . Almost 140 years now and id hope to be able to write her account up till 160 years later
Correction: the Seder is eaten on the evening of the 15th of Nisan, with the crucifixion being the afternoon of the 14th. Jewish days start at sundown (evening).
@James Tabor. There are 3 stages of sunrise and I think it might be helpful to look at the language to see in what order the disciples came to the tomb. John, for one, would have "outrun" the others. With each portion of faith there is another eye-opening, so John would have a fulness of eyes and the ability to outrun or pass on. (Aren't there multiple references in O.T.: lest they see with their eyes and hear with their ears and be converted that I should...save--and another that I should heal. And there ought to be one for deliver. You receive 2 eyes with each portion of grace.) (I have often wondered if the duty of the trumpeter was to announce the stages of morning because men had to leave for work at these different times. I guess even back then, there were those with bankers hours.) Mark is the gospel to the other 70. They are the newbies. He isn't going to know a lot. btw: I love the use of birthing terms for morning. The rose light is the showing. Then there's the crowing and when the sun breaks free of the horizon it is delivered. Evening reverses the process. Rose is the beginning. Isn't that wonderful. I can't help but connect it to רוש. (In Portuguese, rose is "face." In French it's is the color of blushed cheeks. And it is the natural color of the rose flower. • if you would rather I didn't add comments, you can tell me. It's OK. I love your work. It is thought-provoking and stirs my memory. Thank you.
Although Paul sees a transformed body, not of flesh and blood, in the previous eyewitness accounts the body of Christ is both flesh and blood (Thomas), as well as capable of instant appearances and disappearances. Likewise, the body of Jesus is both flesh and blood and spirit, at will! Incredible! It is a similar transformation as the human body of the “young man” (Angel?) seen sitting alone (empty tomb) by the Mother of Jesus and Mary Magdalene on Easter morning.
i'm bothered that Jesus wasn't really resurrected like i thought, cuz i thought that his physical body did come back to life after crucifixion but it never did and just vanished they say? yet we're gonna take their word for it and that they saw his spirit come back but not to life, which to me is just a ghost sighting, not a resurrection
You might take comfort in the teaching of the spiritual body or resurrection body. Paul was the earliest testimony to Jesus's post-resurrection body. It relates to the earthly body as a full grown plant relates to the seed - and the contrast is just as striking in both cases. Since "the flesh cannot inherit the Kingdom", then of course a resuscitated corpse would not be an appropriate heavenly vehicle for the risen Son of God. Paul says of Jesus' risen body, "We will be LIKE (Symmorphon) HIM" - not revived corpses, but rather persons who will be "embodied" in a new form which has as little to do with the mortal body as a blossoming cherry tree has with its seed. So the risen Jesus is not like a disembodied ghost. Rather, his "seedlike" mortal body has been replaced by a heavenly form which is no longer subject to illness, ageing, and death - a form fitted for heaven and the coming of the New Age. Paul thought that to BE LIKE the risen Jesus will be to be clothed with the glory of the resurrection body. A ghost can't redeem anyone. But Jesus's rising into glory, says Paul, is a seal of Jesus's power to redeem believers, and to clothe them with glory even as Jesus is clothed.
Please, why is no one asking why someone did not go straightaway and inquire of Joseph of Aramathia, head of the burial party, where at and what was going on and find out? This is crazy to me. What am I'm missing?
Do we think that the ancient scribes who were copying sacred manuscripts became so adept at it that, like scholars today, they were able to detect latter additions to the original? And if the case, what did this mean to them? Did it give them permission to do it themselves?
Is there a historical evidence of what you told us about the rituals of burials, like put them in a tomb for 2 or 3 days then take them to their final resting place??? I heard rabbi Tovia Singer say that there was no such thing as anointing the body after burial, he says that the ritual was done before the burial. So I find two different things here contradicting each other. I'm not saying who is right or wrong but can we find something through ancient stories about how were the rituals during Jesus's time?
These scriptural studies are priceless, Dr. Tabor. We're so appreciative that you share your lifetime of wisdom with us. I'm guilty of calling myself a Christian without having done the heavy lifting of deep study. To peer into the mind of a seasoned scholar is a gift indeed. I'm convinced that there's an afterlife, simply by examining our current life. It's obvious to some that this place [Earth] was designed by a being of unimaginable wisdom and knowledge. Man is still "reverse-engineering" His designs, with no end in sight. It's my belief that man's consciousness and awareness of being is the part that resembles the likeness of our Creator. I believe that we will take some of this with us into the eternal realm, beyond our flesh/temporal experience. Thanks again for these wonderful lessons, Dr. Tabor.
Can we do Jack and the Beanstalk next? What breed of cow did Jack change for the beans? then perhaps we could do the Three Bears, what brand of porridge were they eating? We don't need to do the Three Little Pigs because we know they were Gloucestershire Old Spots.
Well, we do not have Jack Beanstalk's bloody burial shroud or that of Goldilocks, of any of the little pigs. What we do have are images of a crucified corpse on a bloody linen cloth that should not be there, but anyone can see them. Yeshu b. Pantera
@@jeffreyerwin3665 No you don't, you just want to believe that you do. All religions are called "Faiths" for a very good reason, there is no evidence for any of them. What happened to faith? why all of a sudden do believers need evidence? perhaps deep down you can all see that this religious nonsense is just that, nonsense.
Oh really? So those images on the Shroud are just a figment of my imagination? (LOL.) Jesus promised the world the Sign of Jonah, and the Shroud's miraculous images are a part of that Sign. Funny how those who hate religion dismiss the extensive scientific evidence without cause. Those images are for you, my friend. My advice is to make the most of them, because that is all that you are going to get. Yeshu b. Pantera @@Shytot-1
@@jeffreyerwin3665 While I realise you will dismiss anything that says the shroud is not as old as you think it is there is the small matter of facts. The shroud has been tested numerous times by different labs and all the dates come back as between 1260 and 1390. When they test items that are known to be 2000 years the dates come back as approximately 2000 years old, give or take 70 years. BTW I don't hate religion I just think it does more harm than good, especially in young children.
Hi Shytot. The Shroud was tested by three labs which each received one sub-sample taken from a corner of the Shroud. Sixteen radiocarbon readings were obtained. The scientists at the British Museum were tasked with the mathematical analysis of those readings, and they had a problem: the readings did not pass the usual statistical tests that are always used to elimate the possibility of a systemic error in the data. These scientists were under pressure to validate the Museum's new AMS dating process and, therefore, needed to produce a date for the Shroud. In order to overcome the statistical problem, the Museum's scientists asked the Arizona lab to average their eight readings into just four to eliminate the "outliers." Then they fudged the mathematical analysis by expanding the predicted undertainties of the three laboratories' instuments despite the fact that no such expansion was necessary for the medieval control samples. The Museum had been advised by Dr. Phillips of Harvard University that they should consider the possibility that the Shroud's carbon fourteen ratios had been enhanced by an ancient neutron radiation event. Dr. Hedges conceded that such an event would have indeed enhanced those ratios, but said that the Museum would not sully its reputation by considering the possibilty of a miraculous event. Despite being summarily eliminated by the Museum, the neutron absorption hypothesis has not been forgotten. Nuclear engineer (40 years) Robert Rucker has taken the trouble to predict the profile of carbon fourteen on the Shroud based on the 1988 data using a Los Alamos MCNP computer program. Its prediction is that center pieces of the Shroud will show radiocarbon dates of thousands of years into the future. But we do not have to wait for such tests. Recent spectroscopic analysis of Shroud material has revealed that Shroud blood crusts are devoid of nitrogen.** And of course you know that neutron radiaton converts nitrogen into radiocarbon. **World Scientfic News, Vol. 162 pp. 102-109@@Shytot-1
@@MYokheved Matthew 27:65-66, the non-canonical gospel of Peter states it was sealed with 7wax seals. The order was given by Pilate to guard the tomb. No names were given.
Well done. Near Death Experience reports validate the view of resurrection not being resuscitation. The Roman burial cult, however, turned into a cult of the bones and the Sacraments became superstitions (at least to the practitioners - those who experience them simply receive the grace). From your presentation, I would put Mark's first ending with the Gospel of Peter, the first account from John that echoes Mark and the existence of the fishing story at the sea (maybe without the content or the tagging it as the third appearance) into a single narrative. The last incident also mirrors the call of Peter and Andrew (fishers of men). Could James the Just have outrun Peter, or was it his (favorite) nephew, John? Giving Mary into her grandson's care bypasses his brothers, assuming they have forever fled. I would put Mary, wife of Jesus, at the new tomb weeping while Peter, Andrew, Matthew, James the Younger and John are in Galilee. In other words, Mrs. Jesus has two resurrection experiences. It is the second where Jesus tells her not to cling to him - since she is still a widow after his rising. She would then return to Bethany, where some were staying. At some point, James and Joses were returning to Emmaus when Jesus encounters them. I doubt that they ran back after the breaking of the bread. It is a long walk after dusk. I would still put Jesus with Peter, James and some of the family together in either the Upper Room or Bethany for further revelations and Pentecost. It closes the loop on how the family Church of James, et al remained there for the next three decades.
@@michaelbindner9883 So I take it you're a believer in the Hindu god Yamraj then? "By contrast, the dominant religious imagery of India is Hindu, and predictably NDEs from India typically involve encounters with recognizably Hindu religious figures. Satwant Pasricha and Ian Stevenson provide us with the following case from one of the largest surveys of non-Western NDEs conducted so far: Four black messengers came and held me…. [T]he clerks had a heap of books in front of them…. *Yamraj was there sitting on a high chair with a white beard and wearing yellow clothes.* He asked me, “What do you want?” I told him that I wanted to stay there. He asked me to extend my hand. I don’t remember whether he gave me something or not. Then I was pushed down [and revived] (Pasricha and Stevenson 167). *Here an NDEr is seated near Yamaraj, the Hindu god of death, whose appearance also corresponds to the god’s portrayal in Hindu tradition.* While Western NDErs tend to encounter dead friends and relatives more often than religious figures, Hindu religious figures are prominent in NDEs from India. Additionally, we see that NDErs from different cultures also give different reasons for why they are sent back. Western NDErs are often ‘sent back’ in order to take care of immediate family or for some assumed purpose unknown to them; NDErs from India report meeting clerks in an impersonal afterlife bureaucracy who process the dead and send them back because they have been sent the wrong person due to paperwork mistakes (Pasricha and Stevenson 168-169). *While OBEs are rather common early on in Western NDEs, being visited by a Yamatoot is “the most common initial phase” of Thai NDEs (170).* Where OBEs do occur, “OBEs in Thai NDEs tend immediately to precede meetings with Yamatoots” (171). Tunnels are “largely absent in Thai NDEs” (with one exception unlike Western tunnel experiences), and feelings of peace or euphoria and experiences of light have not been reported at all (172). Thai NDErs are sometimes judged, but their deeds are recounted by reviewing written records of their lives or the testimony of others. The following case is typical: *I … found myself in the judgment hall of Yama’s palace.* I knew that they were ready to judge me for my sins. A giant rooster appeared who told Yama that I had killed him. He emphasized that I had tried to kill him again and again. The rooster also said that he remembered me exactly. An entire flock of roosters also [appeared] and testified that I had killed them, as well. I remembered my actions, and I had to admit that the roosters had told the truth. Yama said that I had committed many sins, and sentenced me to many rebirths both as a chicken, and many other types of birds as well…. But, quite suddenly, an enormous turtle appeared. It screamed at Yama, saying “Don’t take him; he is a good human, and should be allowed to live.” Yama answered the turtle “What did he do to help you?” [ellipses original] (Murphy, “Thailand” 167)." From: *"Hallucinatory Near-Death Experiences » Internet Infidels"*
*Mark’s original ending* makes good sense if Jesus represents the ideal Israel and the disciples represent the Jews who have not been fully corrupted. The herald in the tomb tries to get the disciples to unite in Galilee, presumably to bring about the Kingdom of God, which was Jesus’ purpose in Mark. If that is the case, Mark may be saying that Jesus’ death (the destruction of Jerusalem) was not a messianic failure nor his end, but the beginning of his success - if the disciples and you readers - the dispersed Jews - will reunite now (in 70s CE).
Isn't that typical of (I don't know how to characterize them? early Christian advertising execs?) that they needed to add some "snap, crackle, pop) to Mark's gospel ending of the resurrection of Christ. It wasn't enough that the tomb is empty, the body is "lifted up, gone".
