The US census does not differentiate between Jews of different origin. So this week on Jewish Forum we asked our panel: should Jewish people be considered White?
Jewish is first a religion, second an ethnicity. This is a ridiculous conversation. Most of the time, unless you announce it, no one knows if you are Jewish or not.
There is Jewish by faith and Jewish by blood. All ethnic Jews, yes EVEN Ashkenazi Jews are Middle Eastern. Do some have blonde/red hair and blue eyes? Sure! But so do some Arabs. Race is not JUST about skin colour. If it were, then most Asians should be considered white by that logic . Also, remember there is genetic diversity within ALL races. For example, Black people. Some Black people have EXTREMELY dark skin. While some (few, but some) have light skin to a point where they can even pass for WHITE. And Europeans are another example of this. White people from Scandinavia have EXTREMELY light skin and light blonde hair and blue eyes. On the other hand, white people from countries such as southern Italy or Greece have skin so dark that they can pass for Indian. So to answer your question you can convert to Judaism and be Jewish by faith. But you might have a vastly different experience from a secular Jew who is ETHNICALLY Jewish. Hope this helps.
If they are considered to be white. Then they can not be the true Jews. In a part of the world where melanin is key since creation. Knock it off they are regular white people. Stop the lies
As someone who is ethnically Jewish; here's my take. Whoopi Goldberg is not antisemetic. The long history of oppression has made a sizable group of us to take anyone or anything talking on our self image or identity has caused impulsive and reactionary comments. In otherwords trauma based taking it too personally.
If a black person converts to become Jewish is it a conversion of a religious nature or nationality? If religious then what makes a non-religious white "Jew" to be a Jew? It would seem like there is a different definition for a black and a white person!
That’s likely because you’re identified as White. I’m a man. If I were running for president, my gender would be the last thing on my mind. Every US president has been a man, so why would that even be on my radar? If a woman were running for president, it would be a bigger deal, because we live in a male-dominated society and men are still seen as the most dominant and important especially when it comes to leading the country - we’re a patriarchal society. So, she’d be running against a history where only men have been president. If I’m a child of a White, Jewish mom and a Black father, that makes me Jewish according to Jewish law, right? I’d likely receive oppression, not only from the world, because of my Black identity, but also from Jews - just like the Black woman in this video said. So…color DOES MATTER.
You have to be carefull when you say that because although in your neighborhood or in your household it may not matter. Yet when you go to work or your nephew or cousins in their neighborhoods may have a different perspective.
Not Sephardim or Mizrahi. That's for sure. Ashkenazi are not genetically related to the Middle East or people of Bible/Torah. They are Eastern European with Turkic roots, so perhaps. But we know they were treated like blacks, so it's tough.
They are not "European". There is nothing European about them, Ashkenazi are a Turkic group. You people need to wake up and spend 3 minutes researching before lumping them in with us.
I have this youtube video next to a race iq video found youtube for the world to see I am sure people are smart enought to link them to your video about are jews white. What does racism mean by the way?
And 10,000 years ago, we live in Palestine. Said the self proclaimed 10,000 years old immortal Jacob(not the prophet Yaqub a.s) that occasionally yells "If I don't steal your house, someone else will". Palestine is so big, it stretches to Europe continent.
This seems to be more of an American question since, as the guest Chaya has said, the history has been predicated of white racial identity. You don't see that question come up as much in Canada but it does happen on occasion.
Joseph was given a coat of many colours. Now a coat is the garment of a body as a body is the garment of the soul. It's not about the garments it's about the soul. The garment of the soul is the body and it can have a variety of colours. Judaism is not about the garment, it is concerned with the rectifications of the soul and that is the one thing that all Jews have in common, the soul. So, one people, many colours!
God doesn't see colour. Apostle Paul, former Pharisee and murderer of Christians: There is neither Jew nor Aramaean, neither Servant nor Free person, neither male nor female, for all of you are one in Yeshua The Messiah. Gal. 3:28 Aramaic
This topic is multifaceted an worthy of a much longer program. I24 must consider doing a much longer program. An the host never accepted that not all black Jew are not converts! I'm a so called black or African what ever Jew. An there are right to the point any dark to medium color Jew must explain them selves to lighter skin Jew that have assimilated in the U.S. white culture. Any way we that's us Jews can have a conversation with out it getting heated. There discussion shows that much.
True. As Chaya said, many Jews don't know our history, don't know all that we comprise. Many don't realize how wide the diaspora is and all the places we settled. There are Black American Jews who are not converts. I think more focus can be directed at "colorism" which effects many groups, including the Jewish community.
Every person is the descendant of numerous tribes which no longer are consolidated. Resurrecting one specific dead tribe, at a political level, and obliging people to pretend they are descended only from that tribe is opportunistic in this case. If Judaism is seen as a religion, i.e., more accurate, then there is no basis for a political state that favors its members over others.
do you have proof god is real or proof of the exdous? where is god in the commenting section? would god like it if your deleted my comments if he or she or it is watching?
As blackdreamhunk2 I experience racism here over this subject on youtube. I also experienced racism from Nightrider from Cig the creators of star citizen over this subject. I experience racism here on youtube on race iq over this subject. Then there was this guy named Barros who told me jews being called white was antisemitic. My first encounter was with race iq subjects by other races and people claiming to be jews on youtube. I experience racism on the subject of jews and the slave trade on Disqus and youtube. I also experienced racism on Jesus being white or ancient Hebrews being white. I am of cribbean descent.
No they are not and we are sick of being scapegoated for what they do. We are indigenous to Europe, they aren't. Like Gypsies (which originate in India) they also originate from somewhere else.
This comes from an old European habit of equating national ID as a racial category. You can find a great example with Winston Churchill when he wrote of the Battle of Midway and spoke of the achievement of the "American Race." I lived in Slovenia in the late 90s, and I found that older people still thought and talked this way.
We have little in common with them. We are indigenous to Europe, they moved here. They moved here from somewhere else, Khazaria, or the Levant. They are like Gypsies who originate in India, they have inherited some European admixture from living here we are different.
Semantic is a Farsi word زن مالک (zan-maallek) which means OWNERSHIP of WOMEN (wife). It is the Ideology of Sunni Arabs and Jews. This ideology has given the right to men (husbands) to sell their wife as sex slave for food or exchange them for water wells and land. Other words this was the law or the ideology made by pimps, sex and child traffickers to acquire wealth and property. I am very much against Semantic which makes me the BIGGEST ANTI SEMITIC ever. Shon Mardani
reachmereachme4492 is a Whale word (ububuwawa) which means TOUNGE in STOMACH(lies). It is the ideology of the whale and subhuman. This ideology has given the whale the right to cameo as human and speak human language using tongue exchanged between human and whale. Other words this was the law or the ideology made by hypocrite, liar and disingenuous bastard to spread lies and 3 seconds fantasy euphoria. I am very much against reachmereachme4492 which makes me the BIGGEST ANTI REACHMEREACHME4492 ever. Ukulele Guitar
US so called Dinka and Nuer are not Nilotic people; we the descendants of ancient Hebrews. We so ourselves Monyjang and Naath meaning Men of Men, Lords of Men, or Masters of Humanity. During the colonial time, two British anthropologists: E. E. Evans-Pritchard and Godfrey Lienhard throughly studied our cultural and religious practices. They were shock that our cultural and religious practices were pure Hebrew customs: E. E. Evans-Pritchard author of 'Nuer Religion' stated: I am, of course, well aware that Nuer religion is very unlike what we know in general about Negro religions. One cannot even say that it is a typical Nilotic religion. It is certainly very unlike the religion of the Anuak, of the Luo of Kenya, of the Acholi, of the Alur, or of the Shilluk. Indeed, only the religion of the Dinka can be said to have strongly marked affinities with it, and it can be further said that in some respects the religions of these two peoples resemble less other Negro religions than some of the historic religions. They have features which bring to mind the Hebrews of the Old Testament. Professor C. G. Seligman clearly sensed this, as his account of the Dinka and Nuer shows; and Miss Ray Huffman, an American Presbyterian missionary who spent many years among the Nuer, remarks that 'the missionary feels as if he were living in Old Testament times, and in a way this is true' (p. vii). After examining our religion outlook, they discovered that our account of creation, God, sin, and other accounts resemblance Biblical accounts. According to my fathers, Nhialic (whom we referred to as 'Nhialic Wa' meaning God my father) created Garang (man) dust of the ground and breathe his into the man life. And afterwards, Nhialic took Garang rib and formed Abuk (female). The two first couple. According to our fathers, Abuk disobeyed Nhialic and ate of the forbidden fruit and Garang also ate, thus by sin enter to the world. Before this sin, according to our fathers, there was no hardship or death. These came into being to due Garang and Abuk transgression against Nhialic. One reading can see resemblance of Monyjang and Naath to Biblical account of creation of man and the inception of sin in to the world. Also according to my forebears, my ancestors were enslaved in Egypt for 400 years and were delivered by Nhialic's mighty hands. Nhialic used individual by the name of Aiwel Longar to take my forebears out of Egypt to the land of Canaan, Longer divided the Reed Sea with Nhialic helped thus allowing my ancestors to escaped the Egyptian that were pursuing them. Again these these stories are exactly the biblical accounts. Like ancient Hebrews, the Priests whom we call Bany Biths ( hereditary meaning pass down from father to son ) were responsible for performing sacrificial rites. No one but a Bany Bith (a priest) can perform religious duties (sacrificial rites, blessing warriors before war, settling disputes, blood feud, etc). Bany Bith are seen as Nhialic's representative on earth, thus they have the power to bless and to curse and to heal. We also believed in prophets whom we call Raan Nhialic (a man of God). Unlike Bany Biths (priests), prophets (Raan Nhialic) are rare, they only appear during time of trouble, bring massages from Nhialic. Raan Nhialic will explain to the people why Nhailic has brought trouble among the people and what people need to do propitiate the Divine wrath. As one can see our account resemblance the ancient Hebrews is no wonder why Evans Pritchard said that the religion these two people (Monyjang and Naath) " the religions of these two peoples resemble less other Negro religions than some of the historic religions. They have features which bring to mind the Hebrews of the Old Testament." Our cultural and religious practices resemblance ancient Hebrews because we Monyjang and Naath are their descendants who were exiled to Cush. Isaiah 11:11, Amos 9:7, Zephaniah 3:10 and Isaiah 18 all speaks about us the Hebrews that were exiled to Cush sometime referred to in the Bible as (Ethiopia). According to our forefathers, there were three distinct migrations to the Cush land. Monyjang and Nuer consists clans that trace their fathers to these Hebrew tribes: Judah, Levi, Reuben, Benjamin, Dan.
No they’re not. Whites are European. Jews are from the Middle East. Obviously anyone can convert to the religion of Judaism but that’s not what we’re talking about. Jews as an ethnicity are not Caucasian.
Caucasian includes people from the middle east. Its outdated racial science. What people mean when they say Jews are white (Id say like myself but most people confuse me for hispanic for being olive skin toned) is that they enjoy white privilages in western nations.
Well Israel tribe is white but not white as the USA but LIKE ARAB, but jew is a religion for black and white but in history Israel went to Africa and around the world where black and white put together
AK What if it could be proven that "they" were actually the ones who conceptualized and encouraged slvy in the first place? Then the true mission of this invasion would be understood in its entirety. There is a lot to be unearthed below the surface.
Some of them are white and some of them are not. But what I admire about them is their hard work for knowledge and high standards (on average), not stereotyping. ~~West African living in the USA.
@hyperreal Now race isn't legitimate be real. Race is very legitimate in America and the overwhelmingly majority of American jews are white and select white on all of their documents. Their birth certificates also say white.
richjacobs Every single conversation in the entire world right now is navigated to pander to the so called victims! Question should be:- What's really going on?
@@onlythetruth883 the truth is everybody wants to be white because white is more beautiful. Some people that aren't white are full of hatred and bigotry
The tribes of Judah and Benjamin were the Khazars. Today they are in Ukraine and Russia, and this is the end of the age. At the beginning of the book of Revelation, you will see in Christian bibles, the seven churches, but they were not churches. They were seven large settlements in Western Asia Minor (Turkey) that left the land before the siege of Jerusalem, in 70, and the 3.5 years that followed. The seven settlements are the remnant of the tribes of Judah and Benjamin. These people were light skin, light hair and light eyed people. Their brothers are throughout Europe. The Khazars migrated from Turkey, and became horse archers fighting the Arabs through the Caucuses, and settled in Europe. The Revelation was written to them, warning them of the Western Roman kingdom, with the western Roman religion. All these people claiming to be Israelites are frauds. The war getting ready to happen will destroy the whole western kingdom. The US will be utterly burned with fire, and Britain will go under a tsunami of radiated water. Five months later, the European armies will be destroyed, and the nations burned. Those in Israel today are the enemies of the tribes of Judah and Benjamin who were killed by the Romans. Romans were black hair, brown eyed and aquiline nose people. The people in the land today are Romans. The land of Israel today is also western Roman kingdom. The Messiah is returning to destroy those who pierced him. The Roman is a fornicating whore: “come out of her my people.”
@@briankaz8786Please double up on your anti psychotics. Your mental illness is quite extreme. I got an idea! Put on your power ranger outfit and speak your Shalawammy ding dong “Hebrew” on the street corners. You guys look so smart when you do that. Another thing, the Jewish nation never laughs at you and really respects your King Jimmy bible preaching.
