Debunking Araki Forgot Extras 2 

Reply with your Araki Forgot topics you'd want to see in another Extras video (Parts 1-7/Spin-offs only)

This isn’t even araki forgot, it’s just “the jojo fandom doesn’t pay attention to the plot so they blame it on araki”

These so called "Araki forgots" in a nutshell: "Once Jonathan talked about some guy, this means that of course he was talking about Abbacchio, but Abbacchio wouldn't be born yet, so Araki made a mistake here"

Araki never explained how the frog Will Zeppeli punched manage to survive for 100+ years and move to Italy (where it was eaten by Doppio). His biggest blunder if you ask me.

Araki forgot about Giorno's ability to push his ear inward. This was clearly forshadowing him using that trick to defeat Diavolo.

Why didn't Joseph use clacker volley against the invisible baby in Part 4?

I cannot believe Araki forgot that Danny died in part 1 and included him in part 3 with a stand named The Fool.

"Kakyoins friend must be Luca!" "But Luca was stabbed, not hit by a baseball" "Good point. The most logical conclusion is that Araki forgot, and not that I was wrong"

I always just thought Joseph's clackers were a running gag. He was so desperate to have a "thing" like Caesar that he kept trying to shoehorn it into his moveset. I consider it character development that he stopped trying to use it.

The Leaky-eye Luka being Kakyoin's friend theory is infinitely wrong on every possible level

Hamon beat is stuck in a GER death loop except instead of death its just having to explain the same points over and over again

"these people seem to miss the moment where jotaro directly explains how and when he got the books" LMAOOOO

The Schrödinger's Araki's Memory: Good enough to remember an offhand comment from Kakyoin, not good enough to remember what Kakyoin said in that comment.

Alternate title: 'The Infinite Blindness of People That Speed Read The Manga'

Jojolion ending means that we’re finally gonna be able to get debunking araki forgot part 8

Jotaro literally landed on a bookstore after he donut DIO. This is not an "Araki forgot" moment, it's just the fandom not paying attention then blame it to Araki.

I don't know which one is crazier Jotaro selecting the The World card for Star Platinum's name Or Leaky Eye Luca being Kakyoin's friend

“Joseph could’ve gotten another pair of clackers” Ah, yes, because there was a store that sold clackers in the vampire lair. How could araki have been so blind?

Jotaro could have used star finger against Wonder of You. Edit: YOU FELL FOR IT FOOL THUNDER CROSS SPLIT ATTACK!!!

"How can people from an alternate universe have Stands without the saint's corpse?" unironically asked by a fandom that's been invested in an alternate universe where the saint's corpse didn't exist and Stands were granted by mystical arrows crafted by a meteor for 6 entire parts prior to SBR.

This further shows how much detail Araki actually put into his writing, the fans just don't realize it

Why didn't Jotaro use the cigarette trick to kill Pucci in Part 6, ugh Araki forgets yet again 🙄

As much as I love Joseph creatively using HP, it would be hilarious to see 69-year-old Joseph pulling out clackers and a Tommy Gun

Araki forgot about Josuke's four testicles. He could have easily defeated Wonder of U by sheer awe.

Wammu: I’m ready to see how you’re practiced with your cracker volleys Joseph: My what? * throws oil jar *

People say Araki Forgot but actually it’s either The Fans are Lazy or The Fans Forgot

It's crazy that people can cite such a niche reference to Kakyoin's friend who got injured in the eye playing baseball while also not being able to remember basic information about Luca, an actual character.

It just baffles me how JoJo fans can either twist, or simply misunderstand information. I remember some people arguing that Star Platinum cannot break diamond because at the end of the High Priestess fight Jotaro said that her teeth were low on calcium. I thought it was pretty clear that the diamonds being “low on calcium” was meant to be one of Jotaro’s many one liners (Even though I think the teeth weren’t as hard as diamonds in the first place, and that was just a way to say that her teeth were very hard). It just goes to show that most of the fans that argue about this sort of stuff have both a reading and comprehension level equal to that of a baby.

I'm kinda surprised no one ever mentioned Stone Free's "forgotten ability" to make people have diarrhea

The people who think that Leaky Eye Luca was Kakyion's friend are the same people that think Lamarr the Headcrab was the cat they were talking about in half life 2 when Barney said "I still have nightmares about that cat"

Why didn't Joseph used the clacker volleys to win the Steel Ball Run?

"Watch 'er tits wobble! i got a stand beneath my belt!" is probably the most hilarious piece of written text in any manga ever and I'm officially mad they missed putting that scene in the anime.

It's hilarious to me that the Luca "theory" also literally implies Araki would remember smth he wrote back in Part 3 and make a side character based on that, not much of an "Araki forgot" in the first place.

Videos like this convince me that "Araki Forgot" isn't a writing problem, but a reputation problem. It's normal for unimportant elements (like traveling) to be resolved offscreen in a story, but because Araki supposedly "forgets" all the time, people hyperfixate on it.

"The JoJo fandom can't be possibly THAT stupid" The JoJo Fandom: "Leaky Eye Luca was one of Kakyoin's friends, and Araki forgot the backstory he made for him in part 3 during part 5"

What about how Echoes Act 3 went back in time to crush Caesar, but this ability was never used again?

13:10 at this point this isn't an araki forgot, this is just blatantly ignoring how Killer Queen's ability works.

I love the dry anger and disappointment when he says, "as if Luca was somehow a school-aged boy in Japan in the 1980s"

This video is basically hamon beat giving attention to the most random possible angry commenters that are mad something wasn't deeply explained or didn't get reused later like their life depends on it and will go on a crusade to cancel araki. Just wait until people read any other manga and notice authors will actually drop ideas or not re-use them as it goes on plus that they can't make perfect works without any mistakes.

I wonder why people don't understand the thing with the Holy Corpse and Stands. Even in Part 3-6, Stands weren't ONLY formed by the arrow, some were created by the mastery of something, while some people are just born with them. It's reasonable to assume that in Part 7, things other than the Holy Corpse can create Stands too.

14:17 How is it possible to pay this much attention to a single line of dialogue, in the manga no less, and then somehow relate it in your mind to a completely separate character from A DIFFERENT PART 12 YEARS IN THE FUTURE living in ANOTHER CONTINENT. WHY WOULD LUCA HAVE EVER MET KAKYOIN?! Fuckin' Reed Richards over here reaching between eight time zones and twelve dimensions.

The Leaky-Eyed Luca one is so funny. "Does my headcanon not add up? No, it's Araki that forgot."

About why Joseph didn't get new clackers, it's worth pointing out that there wasn't any time to get any new gear between the moment they were broken and the end of Part 2. After they're broken, Lisa Lisa bluffs about the Super Aja being rigged with a bomb to escape from the 100 vampire ambush, Joseph is allowed to go back to retrieve the stone, then he immediately goes back to the place where he and Wamuu are supposed to fight. From that point on, it's a straight line to the ending, with no opportunity to replace the clackers in-between.

At this point I expect these "fans" to just outright say Araki forgot onto the Jojo video games like Eyes of Heaven's story mode ending.

"Leaky-eye Luka is Kakyoin's childhood friend" Holy shit and I thought Star Wars theorists were delusional.

Jotaro actually used Star Finger on Leaky Eyed Luca and Kakyion's friend

I've got a fucking aneurysm hearing the "Luca is Kakyoin's classmate" theory.

Wow people went from "hey the attack was used once" into "he didn't use it enough" Next we are gonna have " the attack was used in 10 out of 11 fights so it must have been forgotten" Edit: also that liky eye lucka thing is most halarious thing i have heard so far from Jojo community next to araki forgetting the wall eye in part 8 and other things of that nature

i love the leaky eye luca one. the people's logic is like "im gonna link this to that, but the link is wrong! araki is so forgetful"

I love how you can just hear his anger when talking about luca

Moral of the story: don't speed read manga

it's kind of funny how 20:05 can be disproven by the sole fact that Part 1-6 exist. Because there are infinite universes, one of them must literally be the universe where the first 6 jojo parts are in. If the corpse parts are the only things that make stands, then all official jojo stuff before SBR's release must have not existed.

I like how people didn't understand how people got stands without the saint's corpse, when the original universe stands were obtained by an arrowhead made from a meteor.

We need a Hamon beat for every fandom

oh god the leaky eye luca kakyoin thing is gonna be another false claim thats seen as fact throughout the community, like the dios original ability being every stand claim

Couldn't it be possible Jotaro was aware of the time stop before he approached dio but didn't fully understand it? Dio barely used it prior to the fight and it was so short he might have just thought he was imagining it. When Dio fought Kakyoin and Joseph, Jotaro wasn't there but would have started noticing it for real. And when Joseph told him straight up what happened and he saw it, the pieces would have clicked. That was why he was confident enough to approach dio right after he witnessed Joseph get stabbed during a time stop. He already made the connection as soon as Joseph explained it and he saw Dio use it? Or maybe I'm just overthinking it.

Now people are just starting to forget what you ALREADY SAID in other Araki forgot videos.

DIO's coffin is genius, imagine anyone tried to open it in the middle of the day (maybe to check what the hell is even inside the coffin out of curiosity), DIO would have gotten killed like a dumbass for his own stupidity. Honestly the more I think about the more it makes sense.

Can't believe we're gonna be getting a DAF: Jojolion after August

To add onto the Clacker Volley discussion, the main reason it worked on Wamuu was because he was caught off guard. However, Wamuu is smart enough to learn to not be fooled again, and Joseph knew this, meaning it would be rather useless to try it on him again

You could even argue that Stroheim being in the plane in the anime isn’t a forgotten statement either, as the subtitle line is changed from Joseph simply acknowledging he was in there to him asking when he got there, and Stroheim not acknowledging it at all. They turned it into a joke, which is great.

I didn't even realize hot pants had two cream starters

Will finish this later 0:50-DIO's coffin yet again 2:22-Joseph's Clackers 4:57-George II Hamon potential 5:26-Stroheim hidden in Joseph's plane 5:59-Judgment's wishes 6:27-Kakyoin talks about Death 13 7:01-Thoth's predictions 7:45-DIO's sand copy 8:26-DIO's voice replication (that's me btw) 9:15-Kakyoin's revival 9:57-Jotaro's book trick 10:46-Jotaro's time stop 12:30-Krazy Diamond on Korpse 12:59-Different types of Queen's bombs 13:20-Superfly and Mikitaka 14:00-Luca's backstory conflicts with part 3?(honestly, this one is just plain dumb) 15:37-Unzipping Zipperman's abilities 18:56-Dual wielding cream starter 19:57-The world where everything is based

Headcanon: Jotaro was consecutively using time stop to reach Jolyne and "shorten" the time it would take, indirectly "training" his timestop. Timestop appears to function like a muscle where more use increases the time you can stop but neglecting to use timestop will lead to it weakening.

Hamon Beat sacrificing his sanity yet again to the self-proclaimed "JoJo fans".

I liked that in this video you didn't insult at all. Also, in part two Joseph has brown hair and in part three he has white hair, it is clairly obvius that Araki forgot because he had an accident in his childhood that granted him the stand of Alzheimer and daltonism.

I feel bad that these are so often written off as, "mindless mumbo jumbo" or "assuming Araki has the memory of an elephant" by people who haven't even watched a single Debunking Araki Forgot video, or just don't watch it all the way through.

5:41: Even in the anime you see Joseph fly over the crowd of soldiers and also Stroheim and in the next shot Stroheim is gone. So he probably jumped on the plane.

"Araki Forgot" is basically just "i didn't pay attention to something or speed read throught everything, or even saw something and then just didn't check the earlier pages again to see if it makes sense." Sheesh, it can't be that hard to just think a lil...

Sometimes, I heavily dislike this fandom, especially in regards to memes, though I dislike most fandoms in general. It’s just something about the JoJo fans tbh

The "shared stand" implies that Holly's stand would've been a cross between The World and Hermit Purple, which sounds really damn cool and makes me want to see it some time in the future

Rule of Life #1: Only one person at a time is allowed to ever have an eye injury

Araki: "I forgor 💀"

The weird theories people come up with to "prove" Araki forgot something are ridiculous... Also, can these people pay attention ? More than half of these is because people can't read.

17:28 For the "Foo Fighters can drown" one, I also want to point out that FF was _NOT_ being drowned in water - Kenzo himself explicitly explained that his attack released drops of a liquid that is more like engine oil (and obviously, water and oil are rather incomparable). Meaning that it was more like internal bleeding, which even sea life is susceptible to, rather than literally drowning in H2O like a normal human in sea water.

"Stands can only be unlocked by the Saint's Corpse, so the other universes shouldn't have Stands!" You'd think people would realize that there's other ways to obtain a Stand in other universes (this isn't even considering the ways mentioned in JoJolion); infinite universes, infinite possibilities.

I can feel the tension between the JoJo fans and Hamon Beat

17:17 The anime didn't neglect to cover that either, they didn't animated the scene where Narancia write but they animated when he tries to point out a direction and his arm flick to the opposite direction, that alone show that Talking Head also have control over his action and that writing or interpretive dance or whatever would be also affected

This man also helps us understand how much detail and work Araki actually puts into the series

I never realize that Hot Pants have 2 Cream Starter. I always assume that it was only one. I think that's because I read the manga in black in white and never the color version. For me, it never jump into my face. That blew my mind a little today. Thanks for the video.

Joseph's Clacker also broke when fighting Wired Beck, how would he have even been able to use them in the last two battles? So I say it was 3 of the four fights he could have used them in.

I love how these Araki Forgot people seem to treat Kakyoin as some kind of all knowing god so if he says something or does something, it must be absolutely true and important. Kakyoin uses some random bullshit items just cuz? No! Those are important, God Emperor Kakyoin has an important reason for holding a canvas and using a puppet for his Stand! Evil Kakyoin saying no one can deflect Emerald Splash is just him being cocky? No, its 100% accurate, Araki just forgot this! Kakyoin saying there is no such thing as a mirror world is just him realistically not knowing every possible Stand ability? NO! He is correct so when a Stand does use a Mirror World its a plot hole, Araki Forgot! Now he mentions a friend with an eye injury (that fully recovered...) and they assume it must be a main character and not just some unseen person from Kakyoin's past. People...you do realize that characters can be wrong, right? They can be over confident, they can mention things that are unimportant, they can do things for shits and giggles. Its this weird paradox where people think Araki writes every single little thing as important, which would imply he's thinking very hard about every aspect of his story...while also thinking he forgets everything. So...does he over think every aspect of his universe or forget every aspect of his universe? You can't have both. Stop taking every line of dialogue as absolute fact and just consider it within the context it is said. Kakyoin said there was no mirror world when discussing a Stand that did not use a mirror world for its abilities, within the context of this conversation, its true. Its only false later in the series when a Stand is created that does use a mirror world but Kakyoin is dead at this point and would have no way of knowing, but he was right when discussing Hanged Man. The main characters aren't suppose to be all knowing, stop treating them as such...

Obviously Jotaro used star finger to give Luca his eye injury

I couldn’t stop laughing for 3 min straight at the Leaky Eyed Luca part 😂

“Babe, wake up. New Hamon Beat video is out”

I can't wait for Araki Forgot Part 8: Literally just 2 hours of people saying Araki Forgot to add a main antagonist.

8:33 I love the idea of polnareff teaching the dog how to talk

17:30 for anime watchers Rest is spoilers

I can't wait for someone to say "Why is Jotaro not buffed in part 6,where are his muscles"

About the coffin: Iirc in the official part 3 subtitles don't the sailors explicitly point out that it's locked from the inside? I'm an anime only fan (except for parts 6 and 7 ofc, I haven't read part 8 yet) and I remember knowing that the coffin was locked from the inside. I mean, to be fair, it is a pretty small detail that would be easy to forget or just miss entirely.

19:54 I genuinely didn’t notice that hot pants had two cream starters. Even in the panels showing it’s too easy to miss she is holding two unless it’s pointed out as one is usually obscure when the other is showing. Guess that, no one talks about her having a pair ( they only remember the one) and you rarely get a stand with two main bodies. Their are two cream starters is something everyone had memoried holed until the anime makes it obvious.

this video ended up more like- "David Productions forgot" xD

Bruh imagine this: its 2038 and hamon beat is doing jojomama araki forgots

I feel jojo is so well connected people just think It isint Araki said his memory is bad once and mfs labled his entire work effected by that. For a 30+ year old manga JoJo is highly conistent anything that seems forgotten is because JoJo's characters story is more important than lore or little plot plot

So, in another word: "Araki doesn't forget, y'all just need to pay attention and need to read the manga very carefully to understand. Don't just watch the anime."

I didn't think this would exist but here it is so. yooo new Hamon Beat pog.

When DIO and Giorno go to McDonald’s, why isn’t Pucci eating a Big Mac value meal?

If it hasn't already been done, how about what the Stands' designs are based off of. For example: Greatful Dead/Thankful Death's design is based off of the Teke Teke woman. This might take research to find out for most of the Stands, but I think it would be interesting to know what each Stand's design is based off of.

As someone who speed read Berserk and missed hugely important details, I learned a valuable lesson. Don’t speed read if you care about the story.

You think you would be interested in doing an analysis of Araki's art srtyle evolution? Like talking about his influences, the interesting changes as time goes on, etc. I think it would be interesting to see what you have to say about it.