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Debunking The Biggest MYTHS About EVs 

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There's been more MISINFORMATION about battery electric vehicles this year than we can ever remember, so we dusted our (other old) presenter down to EXPLODE THE MOST PERSISTENT MYTHS. And remember these are the episodes to share widely - it's all very well you watching it, and we are grateful - but this is one to send to all those non-believers and nearly EV drivers in your life!
This episode was inspired by the blog Dan wrote for the FullyCharged.SHOW website recently, and references made in the episode can be found as links within that article as below. Dan also wanted it made it clear that to reduce the run time his voice has been sped up slightly, and he was not on a cocktail of amphetamines and helium when this was recorded. That would be unprofessional.
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@kalebdaark100
@kalebdaark100 Год назад
A young bloke I was at work with had an interesting argument against EVs. To summerise, 'sooner or later the terrorists would figure out that EVs can catch fire and target an EV dealership. Much destruction. Much death.' As we drove past a filling station I pointed at it and said, "whats that?" Conversation changed topic after that without a reply.
@AORD72
@AORD72 Год назад
Exactly, funny. But he is probably correct about hydrogen cars. You could park one somewhere, open a value to release the hydrogen into the boot and interior which could be fill of ball bearings and nails then detonate it. 5kg of hydrogen, about what is in a car, has about the energy of 2000 hand grenades. The explosion could be huge.. I imagine if compressed hydrogen cars eventually are produced in large numbers some will leak into peoples enclosed garages and mothers taking their children to school will press the electric garage door opener, the brushed door motors will spark igniting the hydrogen and they will be instantly turned into mince meat. The explosion will be so violent their house will disappear. After a few incidents like that compressed hydrogen will be finished. The compression is crazy, 10000psi, a car tire is only 30psi, then you also have the smallest atom that will push into any metal or manufacturing defect and slowly wedge it open until it escapes.
@paper_gem
@paper_gem Год назад
That's bloody hilarious.
@josephkolodziejski6882
@josephkolodziejski6882 Год назад
"has about the energy of 2000 hand grenades" This is a common mistake people make about gas safety. The reaction of a gas like hydrogen or methane needs oxygen. Hydrogen is only explosive if SUFFICIENTLY mixed with r. Otherwise, it's just a flame. Explosives are saturated with their own oxidizer. This is why fuel-air bombs have major proportions of substances like ammonium nitrate rather than just fuel, and also why LNG ships aren't anywhere near as potent as nuclear weapons. Any hydrogen explosion is going to be localised and due to pressure only. It would resemble a very vicious steam kettle or a straight flame. It's actually safer than gasoline and slightly less so than diesel due to the tradeoffs of energy content, flammability, lightness, pressure venting, density relative to air etc. Also, the reaction of such a gas venting would actually shoot upwards in a very straight flame, which is safer than the settling flames of gasoline or LPG. Propane actually represents the pinnacle of flammability danger, not hydrogen, methane, petrol or diesel, because it is stored in the awkward category of a pressurized liquid that is too close to ambient conditions for refrigeration and is prone to bursting tanks if heated and is heavier than air. Safety is not a straightforwards relationship from energy per weight or energy per volume.
@jeffreyquinn3820
@jeffreyquinn3820 Год назад
@@josephkolodziejski6882 You sometimes hear about slow propane leaks that saturate several rooms taking down large buildings in countries with poor safety standards. You need that much oxygen. Fortunately, hydrogen gas disperses about 25 times faster than propane does. Unless it's in an enclosed area (which one generally shouldn't do with any flammable gas), hydrogen gas will disperse faster than it can burn.
@AORD72
@AORD72 Год назад
@@josephkolodziejski6882 I disagree. Just look at the Norway refill station explosion for example, how violent was that? What about the explosion at a hydrogen and gas facility in Long View, North Carolina, that damaged 60 nearby homes. If you just look it in terms of stored energy: 5kg of hydrogen is about 165kWh and a hand grenade is about 0.070kWh, which gives the equivalence of 2357 times as much stored energy. When a hydrogen explosion happens do you think any of the hydrogen will stay just as hydrogen or all be converted to molecules with other elements. Hydrogen has a very broad flammability range-a 4 percent to 74 percent concentration in air and 4 percent to 94 percent in oxygen. You don't need much oxygen to get it started. "reaction of such a gas venting would actually shoot upwards", it is not about gas venting. I'm talking about leaking and mixing then igniting after all the gas has leaked out. This is especially possible in a garage. You just need to look at heating gas explosions that happen with homes to see how dangerous gas is. The UK has about 31 home gas explosions a year and that is with gas that has lower kWh (10kWh?) and it is at way lower pressure. Home gas is about 0.29 PSI, and EV tank can be around 10000PSI. Would be great to see a actual test to see who is closest to reality! Someone emptying a car tank of hydrogen into a garage then remotely opening the garage door.
@BAC_Mono
@BAC_Mono Год назад
I ditched my Porsche 997 for a KIA EV6 GT and haven’t looked back! I’m a true ‘petrol head’ with a classic Honda NSX and a BAC Mono for track use as well as the Porsche which is now kept for occasional recreational use. For daily duties though I won’t be driving a petrol car again, the EV is just better. Oh, and the argument about range and needing to make unexpected journeys? I’m an NHS surgeon and sometimes have to rush to the hospital in the middle of the night for emergencies. The EV is better, it’s always charged, and being silent it doesn’t wake my family up! Keep up with the myth busting!
@BobQuigley
@BobQuigley Год назад
Used 2018 leaf and used 2018 Model 3 long range. 75,000 miles driven. Wife would never go back! Charge at home, drive 4 miles for 6 pennies. No oil transmission radiator etcetcetc maintenance. Quiet, fast. Driven on 3,000 mile round trip. Save $1,800 per year on gas. Both vehicles have retained 99% of battery mileage. Daughter owns ID4 which she regularly drives from Pittsburgh to New Jersey and back. Son has Bolt, loves it. Others on a used Model Yof performance. Another daughter 2018 Leaf. Several friends have Model Y, one recently purchased MB EQS. Apparently many folks do not consider them to be rubbish?
@christosvaid4454
@christosvaid4454 Год назад
People are emotional beings. Being emotional and harcore fan sometimes blinds you. For me ev is taking everyday more % in the car industry pie period
@yveslegh
@yveslegh Год назад
It's not rubbish at all, but if you need an EV for long distances 270 -300 miles on 100 mph on highway, you have only a handful of them and they are way too expensive for families like ours! So, we don't have choice at the present!
@judebrown4103
@judebrown4103 Год назад
​@@yveslegh I'm genuinely curious as to how often you drive your family for 270 miles at 100mph? And where is that even legal?! Friendly question.😊
@swedenevguru8483
@swedenevguru8483 Год назад
​@@yveslegh Are you on German Autobahn and even there it is often restrictions on speed before 270 miles distance and how far do you go to work. Very few drives 540 miles every day. I have moved before because of time and cost to drive to work
@yveslegh
@yveslegh Год назад
@@judebrown4103 I do that every month through Germany.... family business! And a day later back....
@solentbum
@solentbum Год назад
Today I had 'range relaxation'. When I first went EV 10 years ago I visited the 'Rapid' charger at Rownhams services nearly every time I drove that way, in my 90 mile LEAF Last week I drove my five year old LEAF2.0 on a 180 miles day trip to the seaside, as it had over 84000 miles on the clock I plugged it into the charger in the car park whilst I went for lunch , and went shopping. I got home with 'only' 40 miles range remaining. Today I drove the same journey in my other, newer, LEAF (with the larger battery) . I didn't bother to plug into the charger in the car park and drove home . I got home with 90 miles remaining range. My point, even in an old design such as the LEAF, battery range has improved greatly in just a few years. Now go look at the others. As an aside:- the first LEAF I owned is still on the road and in use.
@pinkelephants1421
@pinkelephants1421 Год назад
I'd love to have been able to share your experience with a numpty who's trying to naysay me and just about everyone else in the Twitter conversation we've been having with him. No matter how patiently we explain reality of EV's, he still can't quite manage to grasp the reality of what EV's entail, including the recycling of the battery packs; and we've been REALLY patient. He's a true ultracreptarian!
@Nikoo033
@Nikoo033 Год назад
Recently bought a second hand 28kWh Hyundai Ioniq. Fantastic EV 🥳.
@clives4501
@clives4501 Год назад
Well done Barry Purkis. I share your enthusiasm for maximum range. My new Toyota Fortuner has a larger fuel tank than the previous model. A very handy 80 litres. I can travel a minimum 800km or more without anxiety. And that's with a smallish caravan in tow. Modern tech - ya can't beat it. As an aside - my 2006 Holden V8 Ute (6.0 lt, ls2 - gen 4) is still going strong. So that's a win win.
@pinkelephants1421
@pinkelephants1421 Год назад
@@clives4501 I see your sarcasm knows no bounds. Troll on....
@ianhamilton3113
@ianhamilton3113 Год назад
@@clives4501 Is it called a Fortuner because it's going to cost you a fortune to fill up over it's lifetime? No need to answer that, we already know.
@Flickerbrain
@Flickerbrain Год назад
Absolutely! We just bought a 2 year old Renault Zoe with a huge 52 Kw/h battery. We love it. We are charging it up directly from the solar panels on our roof and it is sooo nice to be driving around in it with your own energy. The driving experience is amazing, nippy, quiet and fun. Ours has a 110hp motor which isn't particularly fast for EV's but I had absolutely no trouble keeping up with a Porsche Boxster the other day as he tried to leave me behind driving uphill to our village in the Schwarzwald. Definitely no turning back! 👍 James
@Robert-cu9bm
@Robert-cu9bm Год назад
I somehow don't believe a Porsche was trying to leave you behind and you kept up in a Zoe😂
@ouethojlkjn
@ouethojlkjn Год назад
@@Robert-cu9bm I was in a 2019 Telsa SR+ RWD and left a Bentley Continental GT for dead. I could hear his engine howling behind my left ear. The launch on an EV is like nothing you have experienced in any ICE, even the nippy Zoe.
@GadgetMart
@GadgetMart 11 месяцев назад
@@ouethojlkjnmaybe he wasn’t trying, bit cheap racing a Bentley don’t you think?
@ouethojlkjn
@ouethojlkjn 11 месяцев назад
@@GadgetMart Well it wasn't quite as simple as that, we were on a big roundabout set of lights and I was on the right going right and Bentley boy was on the left - but going right. He knew it and I knew it. So the second the amber light appeared he was off like a scalded cat. But he eventually tucked in behind me. Or drove over the bollard, one or the other. Not sue what you mean about cheap, not sure there are many other more expensive cars knocking about where I am.
@GadgetMart
@GadgetMart 11 месяцев назад
@@ouethojlkjn I mean it’s childish racing a Bentley I would expect the driver to be a bit more mature than that
@NeilBlanchard
@NeilBlanchard Год назад
Another aspect of regenerative braking - is that friction brakes are used *much* less frequently - and this means far less brake pad particulates are produced over time.
@GordonHudson
@GordonHudson Год назад
Garages haven't come to terms with the reduction in servicing income from EVs. Eventually people are going to stop paying £150 to get their tyres checked and a new cabin air filter.
@NeilBlanchard
@NeilBlanchard Год назад
@@GordonHudson We have been here before - something about buggy whip makers?
@ward7588
@ward7588 Год назад
Using condoms and other forms of birth control, over time will reduce population. According to studies sex increases your life expectancy.
@SHOdown13
@SHOdown13 Год назад
True, but when you do need to do them it won't be because you wore them out. It will because they have corroded beyond efficient use. It's happening now and I replace them at work because of the corrosion and seldom for their wear.
@NeilBlanchard
@NeilBlanchard Год назад
@@SHOdown13 Well, they only have to be used once a day or maybe every two days, to keep from rusting. And, with EVs they are now putting rear drum brakes in, which are aluminum, and not exposed to the moisture.
@roderickmain9697
@roderickmain9697 Год назад
Surprisingly, nobody has advocated petrol/diesel supply to your house. Water, electricity and sewage connections...but not fuel. So you have to take you ICE car to a petrol station. Where I live in border country, the nearest petrol station is 9 miles away. The nearest public charger is 4 miles away....and (of course) I'm mostly charging at home. Long journeys are a pain. Having to stop and relax for 20 minutes, visit the facilities, grab a coffee is really awful. When I had an ICE car Id be zooming along to the next services to get a petrol fill up - stand by your pump, 5 minutes filling and woosh on your way. Arrive feeling tired, stressed and exhausted. Everybody loves that. Dont they? AND, theres always that range anxiety. Will your ICE car make it to the next petrol station assuming you can find one and its open and you have finance arrangements in place to pay for it. My little EV plots the route, tells me where the stops are, how long I need to charge for, how to find the charging station and gives me a reasonable estimate of how much charge I'll have left when I reach the next stop. Wheres the fun in that? You know, the excitement when the needle is on the wrong side of the red bit ...and as my dad would say "theres nothing on the clock but the makers name". Real exciting driving. The ICE is melting.
@rsdays
@rsdays Год назад
Great video but the word missing was EFFICIENCY. Electric cars are much more efficient at turning energy into motion, in most cases 3 to 4 times more efficient than ICE equivalent. The ICE car manufacturers have successfully eliminated the EFFICIENCY word from the debate and slamming of electric cars. Why? because ICE scars are embarrassingly INEFFICIENT. Only about 25% of the petrol/diesel is used for motion the rest being lost in all sorts of ways. This is really interesting to me that even your show doesn’t mention this. It’s the best counter to someone in a Range Rover who is against EVs. Do they realise actually how inefficient and useless their engine is? It’s embarrassing
@TecnamTwin
@TecnamTwin Год назад
Most don't care because they prioritize space, comfort, and power so they're driving a big truck or 3 row SUV they don't actually need. Thankfully, we can buy whatever we want but... education is needed to drive change in those stuck in their ways.
@ShutterKnack
@ShutterKnack Год назад
EVs are all well and good but I hope Hydrogen really kicks off because that's a truly sustainable option.
@MrBeugh
@MrBeugh Год назад
It’s not so much the efficiency of the cars themselves but the efficiency of the power generation grid over IC engines. Regardless of the source (coal, natural gas, hydro, etc.) most power sources eliminate the reciprocating mass part of the process, making them more efficient. Don’t forget that EVs are basically coal-powered cars. Also the energy to produce them is quite a bit higher than regular cars, Particularly the environmental cost of making the batteries )not to mention the human rights costs too.)
@rsdays
@rsdays Год назад
@@MrBeugh thanks interesting. do you have data on the efficiency of power generation for electric distribution, versus power generation for gasoline/diesel = per KWH of energy for example. my data on extra cost of production is that its not that much higher and that after a few thousand KM its starts to be Carbon beneficial. Personally we power our electric cars from solar panels so it's not so complex to work out
@ClebyHerris
@ClebyHerris Год назад
I’d rather have my propulsion be powered at a scale power source than a small inefficient gas or diesel engine. It’s just hard to make the size efficient and scaling is one of the ways to make something more efficient
@John-FourteenSix
@John-FourteenSix Год назад
I’m buying my first EV tomorrow, you finally tipped my scales after visiting the Fully Charged show at Harrogate. (UK) Thank you so much for what you’re doing. Clean air is a blessing we all deserve to extend to our children and grandchildren.
@AlexM-Official
@AlexM-Official Год назад
What did you get? (Congratulations)
@chriswatt2702
@chriswatt2702 Год назад
Welcome to the club. However you will discover that the charging infrastructure is atrocious. Until you have a home charger installed. There truly is a postcode lottery. North Wales. Mostly 7 kW. Cambridgeshire Buckinghamshire great. Also hope you have a CCS socket. I followed this channel’s advice and didn’t get chademo. There are more chademo stations than 22kW AC. Short stay parking offering 7kW… the only available type 2 chargers in most places. Where there are 22kW points they are very much sought after as they are half the price of CCS.
@John-FourteenSix
@John-FourteenSix Год назад
@@AlexM-Official I chose an i3s for a number of reasons. For me personally it was the most comfortable seating for driving. I also like the quirky look of them interior and exterior, the way they drive, grip the road and go! They’re quick especially in sport mode (ha). Range 150+ is adequate for my use.
@John-FourteenSix
@John-FourteenSix Год назад
@@chriswatt2702 Thanks for the response. I’m beginning to gain a sense of the issue from what you say. I’m due to have a Zappi installed at home as I’m intending 99% local use, but best be prepared from what you say as I’m expecting to do the occasional trip. There is a charger on a car park around the corner and another about 1/4 mile away that I need to investigate. CCS from what I can see. I don’t yet understand the CCS, chedemo and charging rates you mention. I know the car will accept a 50kW rate, 0-80% in around 40+ minutes from what I understand.
@realulli
@realulli Год назад
After getting used to your EV, you'll probably feel like you're suffering whenever you're around other cars. The fumes! The smell! 😉
@paulcharlton2353
@paulcharlton2353 Год назад
We as a company have just gone back to diesel minivans from ev's because as soon as we start using the autobahn the range drops significantly and as a company we cannot spend the time sat at chargers that is required. For a lot of people this would not be an issue but for higher milage drivers ev's are not the solution, at the moment.
@pontusf9427
@pontusf9427 11 месяцев назад
I don't know what cars you've had but minivans has been pretty bad when it comes to range. But they are becoming better. VW id buzz is pretty good, check out the "VW ID Buzz 1000 km challenge" and I think you might change your mind about minivans on the autobhan.
@Asunisland
@Asunisland Год назад
I live in a flat so can’t charge at home. I depend totally on public charging. Public charging needs to be cheaper and have more points.
@Hali88
@Hali88 Год назад
part of the problem is that some of the companies who provide chargers (e.g. Shell & BP) are oil companies that want most people to keep burning oil.
@rsawyer757
@rsawyer757 Год назад
I think public charging needs to be totally rethought. Gas stations exist because you need a place to put the gas for people to fill up however electricity is everywhere there are people. There's no reason that you, even living in a flat, should be forced to go anywhere to "fill up." There should be level 2 charging all over the place, especially in dense areas like parking garages and housing complexes. That being said I agree with you completely. Public charging is not ready for mass adoption so I can't blame you for not making the jump. It's absolutely horrible in my area. Even tesla has only 3 superchargers in a 100 or so mile radius. Just like any new tech (or new to mass market at least), it will take time for prices to come down and for support to increase. We're still very early on after all with Tesla being the only real competitor until very recently.
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 Год назад
@Steven M Audit your vehicle use for 6 weeks. On paper. Distance, destination, time at destination. Note nearby chargers. . Might seem a pain, but you'll be surprised by the "graze charging" opportunities.
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 Год назад
@@rsawyer757 "No reason you have to be forced to go anywhere to fill up".... 🤔 But, the point of a "vehicle" is to "go somewhere"? . So, changing perspective, what you want is charging opportunity where you "go", for the period that you're there. It's more analogous to "metered parking" in a city. You 'go" there for business. You need to park. You need a "meter" (I know, old fashioned) to enable you to park. Actually, bringing that analogy up to date...... Let's say you drive to a city, you find a "bay" (low power charger replacing a "meter") You charge. Your parking fee is collected automatically as a surcharge. . Likewise, parking out of hours where you socialise. If you don't drive to socialise, you don't need the car.
@rsawyer757
@rsawyer757 Год назад
​@@rogerstarkey5390 Electricity is metered so in this context I'd say it's not really an old fashioned term, it actually fits. But yes, I'm saying you should generally be able to charge everywhere. Since electricity is ubiquitous and flows into every building, unlike gasoline, there's no reason that you should have to go to a specific charging station most of the time. Maybe we'll need DC fast charging stations strategically placed around highways like gas stations for travelers who need to travel quickly but slow chargers should be available pretty much everywhere you go. I would say that long term, regardless of where they live, most people should be able to do the vast majority of their charging at home. The point of the car is to go places but there's no reason that charging should be the reason to go somewhere most of the time when you have the resource it runs on pretty much everywhere you go.
@michaellippmann4474
@michaellippmann4474 Год назад
Well said...we have been EV owners now for 9+ months. A Kona EV, we have just rolled over to 41,500 KM. We are high mileage drivers with all our vehicles. We are lucky enough to charge at home at very low rates overnight. We have 0 range anxiety from the very beginning, absolutely love our EV! Just came back from a weekend trip visiting family 500 KM away, had 1 charge stop on the way (which took 30 minutes - barely enough time to run and eat our dinner) and on our return found that Electrify Canada gave us a complimentary charge! Once at our destination we plugged the car in at my brother in laws with our level 1 charger. Return trip was one quick 20 minute charge (at Electrify Canada - cost us $5.28) which provided more than enough range to get home - about 120 KM to spare. Total cost of that trip was about $15 in energy cost. Our Toyota Rav4 would have taken about $150 out of our pocket! I agree that EV's may not work for some but we will never go back to an ICE vehicle being our primary driver! Mike 🇨🇦
@colingenge9999
@colingenge9999 Год назад
Gassing your car seems to take a lot of time because you MUST stand there. Whereas with EV charging you use the toilet, go for a walk, get a coffee and relax …. Not possible while standing in a gas station. My car is usually charged up and ready before I am.
@aacmove
@aacmove Месяц назад
If I can't park my car after the 3 minutes it takes to put gas in it, and then go and get a coffee I will just wear some Tena pants! Honestly, some people have better things to do than spend 30 unnecessary minutes having a coffee they didn't want waiting for their car to be ready to drive.
@colingenge9999
@colingenge9999 Месяц назад
@@aacmove The total amount of time I’ve spent a charging station in the last year is eight minutes. In the previous year. It was 12 minutes. The BS you hear about charging times is just oil company propaganda.
@aacmove
@aacmove Месяц назад
@@colingenge9999I'm glad for you but then I don't imagine our situations are the same. Me. Flat, 4 floors , 10 minutes from public parking with only 6 EV spaces. You, probably house with home charging. Not the same. And, like the time I stopped at a service station and watched a man fart about with two chargers and different credit cards. And by the time I had gotten my sandwich, coffee and pee he still had not managed to start charging. I felt really sorry for him but also slightly amused. I also know a lot of people who would find the whole process difficult as they can't even tell the difference between ICE, mild hybrid, full hybrid, PHEV or BEV. Whilst there are many fuel providers the nozzle is the same, the payment method is the same. Sending a lone woman into a dark, hidden car park to charge is not particularly safe when that is the only option she may have, because she ended up in the wrong place with an almost empty battery. You'll never convince me that charging a EV car and filling up with fuel are comparable. I see the inconvenience and am not interested in it.
@ScottyDMcom
@ScottyDMcom Год назад
Got my first EV last month, a Tesla Model Y with the long-range battery and the tow package. Three times I've driven between Colorado Springs and Fort Collins -- a 140 mile trip (each way) by the most direct route. Twice towing a trailer and once without. My trailer is a 6 x 12 foot enclosed box that's over 7 feet high. It's like dragging a sea anchor. The first trip with the trailer I set cruse control to 65 mph and had to stop for 20 minutes at a supercharger north of Denver. And on the way back back I had to stop at a supercharger on the south edge of Denver. The Model Y had tons of pulling power, but wind-drag really eats up the battery. The second trip with the trailer I set cruse control to 60 mph and it made a huge difference, as I made it the full distance with 35 miles of range left. We'll see how it goes on the way home. Still wouldn't go back to the Subaru Outback. Gonna keep my Tesla.
@ouethojlkjn
@ouethojlkjn Год назад
Congratulations on entering the intriguing world of driving slower to avoid a pit stop or driving faster and having to take one!
@CRAZYCR1T1C
@CRAZYCR1T1C Год назад
Agree with most point except the “you don’t need a driveway to charge” It’s crazy expensive to charge with rapids now.
@judebrown4103
@judebrown4103 Год назад
There are various subscriptions and RFID cards from the likes of Octopus energy that reduce costs. You don't have to pay 79p or more. We have no driveway and bought a used ev with great range and a small battery so even if we paid the highest tariff we'd still pay two thirds less than our 1.2 litre petrol car cost.
@cubeflinger
@cubeflinger Год назад
still cheaper than fuel
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Год назад
But you can of course reduce the cost of using rapid charging by subscribing to the network..... that can bring cost savings of up to 50%.
@mikelovesbacon
@mikelovesbacon 6 месяцев назад
You don't need a driveway to charge and not having a driveway doesn't mean you have to use public chargers. You can apply for permission to run a cable from your house to the car, for example.
@dfishpool7052
@dfishpool7052 Год назад
Well said! I went electric about 18 months ago and would never go back to petrol of diesel!
@rodden1953
@rodden1953 Год назад
Well said Dan , I had this today with a group of people, one lady said there's no infrastructure yet and said her friends have all had problems with their EVs and charging , She said one of her friends ran out in Cornwall and had to get a lift to their destination. Yes Cornwall isn't very good but i went there 4 years ago and i pland my route and had no . problems . i wanted to tell her that they were either lying or or just stupid. there was lots more FUD too much to go into but i gave the right answers
@davesvoboda2785
@davesvoboda2785 Год назад
More likely SHE was lying.
@rodden1953
@rodden1953 Год назад
@@davesvoboda2785 Yes thats what i thought too
@chrisheath2637
@chrisheath2637 Год назад
That's funny, I see more and more EVs in Newquay, Cornwall. And I've never seen a broken down EV... Ahhh, maybe her friends all buy inferior EVs, in which case...well, the answer is obvious...ditch the Wulong / Milk Cart for a better EV ! ( Yes, a blatant PLUG for proper EVs...)
@rodden1953
@rodden1953 Год назад
@@chrisheath2637 I did meet a couple at Tesco four years ago going on holiday from Bath to the west country with a Ford Mustang tying to charge on 7kw pod point , they only had it less than a week .
@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou
@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou Год назад
Based on my experience of Daily Mail-reading types blabbing on about EVS, it's a combo of lying, stupidity, willful ignorance and gullibility.
@a-aron2276
@a-aron2276 Год назад
Well needed video, I'm constantly refuting things the petrol heads say in work. They came to me about hydrogen the other day and Im trying super hard to be like no, no, no it's not the awnser, not for domestic use anyway. And I'll say that here too, hydrogen is stupid, it's inefficient to produce and mining it is just stupid, it's just a way for the oil industry to keep us all in their pockets. Electricity can be made and stored easily in the home and that's why it's so disruptive.
@judebrown4103
@judebrown4103 Год назад
Careful, this comment is in danger of causing a Robert Rant in explosive agreement with you!😅
@PetesShredder
@PetesShredder Год назад
My favourite bit of bollocks someone told me about EVs: "You cant take them to a normal body shop to be repaired, because the heat lamps they use to cure the paint will over heat the battery, so they have to go to special body shops where they remove the battery first before painting" And this guy really truly believed that.
@clives4501
@clives4501 Год назад
95% of ev's ever made are still on the road. The other 5% of them made it to the end of their journey.
@theelectricmonk3909
@theelectricmonk3909 Год назад
@@clives4501 Don't give up your day job. Unless your day job is to come up with crap trolling, in which case, give it up right now.
@clives4501
@clives4501 Год назад
@@theelectricmonk3909Thanks for your comment electric monk. Trolling is a new word to me, so thank you for bringing it to my attention. I found this definition - Trolling is when someone posts or comments online to deliberately upset others. FYI I did not deliberately set out to upset you, or anyone else. I understand that humor is subjective: but on reflection do you think you might be overreacting somewhat? I would add that your post is somewhat insulting towards me. Did you perhaps deliberately set out to upset me? Please be assured I am not upset - merely amused, so rest easy. In any event please accept my sincere apologies for any distress I may have unwittingly caused. What a world we now live in!
@andymccabe6712
@andymccabe6712 Год назад
@@clives4501 sensitive lot - these EVangelists......!!!!
@clives4501
@clives4501 Год назад
@@andymccabe6712 Thanks Andy. I was beginning to doubt my own self worth - just kidding!
@egold33311
@egold33311 Год назад
Many people are spending more money on the more expensive EVs for the range but in reality they don't even need the range and could get away with charging a few times a month, in the meantime it means they have paid a premium that isn't necessary. Over time with more accessable public charging, EVs with a smaller range will become a better more affordable choice and the mindset will change. Right now there are some decent bargains on used EVs as many lease cars are up for sale and is likely flooding the market, until the buyers catch up you might get a few bargains!
@brianc5788
@brianc5788 Год назад
15 months into driving an EV! Wish I had converted earlier 👍👍😁😁
@stijnbode8448
@stijnbode8448 Год назад
Same here haha!
@John-FourteenSix
@John-FourteenSix Год назад
First EV 10am tomorrow… Nervous excitement as I’m letting go of my excellent Golf GTD.
@GregHassler
@GregHassler Год назад
10 years of driving an EV, wish I converted earlier 😀
@John-FourteenSix
@John-FourteenSix Год назад
2 weeks of driving an EV, I wish I had converted earlier!
@bobjohnson4512
@bobjohnson4512 Год назад
Will you guys make fun of me if I tell you I have been using my battery-powered riding mower for four years and I wish I converted earlier? I don't have an EV yet.
@bobdrago6965
@bobdrago6965 Год назад
Well said. Too many oil industry online trolls spreading misinformation resulting in red state hostility towards EVs here in the USA.
@passby8070
@passby8070 Год назад
Don't forget Toyota in that list too... They are being sued in Australia and a number of other countries for greenwashing, emission coverups, and spreading propaganda in Japan telling their population on Hybrid is best for the environment.
@ward7588
@ward7588 Год назад
Lol, socialist or liberal?
@SocialDownclimber
@SocialDownclimber Год назад
@@ward7588 Things like that out you as a troll. We are talking about cars. Cars can't tell which politics you support.
@GeeDeeBird
@GeeDeeBird 11 месяцев назад
@@ward7588 Not sure what the commenter's political leanings have to do with the truth of the statement. But, since you want to go there.... Republican politicians are largely in the pockets of their contributors - big oil, big pharma, big insurance. Accordingly, they whip up their generally uninformed (beyond Faux News or News Smacks) base to prevent any progress on alternate energy, electric vehicles, drug prices or universal (meaning affordable to poor people) health care in the U.S.A. So, if being on the other side of this argument, means you're going to call me names, count me in! What's your excuse? Not name-calling, just asking if you have any fascist or conservative ideas for addressing the problems of our society. Take your time, but give me solid data from a non-political source.... if you know of one.
@skepticalmechanic
@skepticalmechanic Год назад
I’m in the US.. I have a 2023 M3SR and charge it once a week… after all incentives I paid $31,400. Will never go back to gas…
@GordonHudson
@GordonHudson Год назад
Real life running costs: My LEAF is costing 5.2p per mile in Fuel. My wife has a peteol Qashqai and thats 16.5p per mile for fuel. This means that the ownership cost per month for both cars is about the same, except I am not putting out any pollution and my fuel is coming from renewable sources.
@gonzaloleviatanh
@gonzaloleviatanh Год назад
I would like more second hand EVs that I can afford 😖
@swedenevguru8483
@swedenevguru8483 Год назад
Depends on what country you live but in Sweden we got more used evs and prices has gone down. MG sells alot in Uk and used prices im sure are lower there. Sweden a Mg Zs Ev 2020-2021 are 220-240 000Sek. Hyundai ioniq 2017 are from 160 000 Sek. Nissan Leaf 40 Kwh from 180 000 Sek. Vw ID 3 from 295 000 Sek. But i havent even seen Nissan Leaf 24 Kwh really cheap in Sweden like Norway have. Thats why im sure this cars goes on import alot
@garagewindowrailway
@garagewindowrailway Год назад
UK renault ZE50 GT line, 70 plate / 2020 £14-15,000?
@Gay-is-_-trash
@Gay-is-_-trash Год назад
They will catch on fire like tinder in the sunlight
@terryjimfletcher
@terryjimfletcher Год назад
​@@Gay-is-_-trashyes, our leaf caught fire at least 10 times in last year's 40C (105F) heat. Our Niro will do the same this year 😂😂😅🤣 Nope, we simply charge them up from solar, no oil slicks or oil tanker fires involved.
@Gay-is-_-trash
@Gay-is-_-trash Год назад
@@terryjimfletcher Exactly
@CncObsession
@CncObsession Год назад
Having an MYP I get it constantly as does every other EV owner. No infrastructure. My reply, all houses and businesses have electricity but no gas stations have pipelines. My car is always ready to go at home, no hassles. Car is quiet but even better, brutally quick and fast. It is hard on tires due to acceleration and cornering I do, others results may vary. I did come from a track prepped BMW M3 SMG so I do have a vague idea of performance expectations. I rarely need to travel over 250-300 miles in a hurry but can go 200 at 100+ And best of all, last year cost 2843.00 us dollars to travel 22600 miles at blistering speeds including 1 set of Pirellis ;-) No other maintenance needed. A bargain deal.
@julesdingle
@julesdingle Год назад
the Telegraph and the Mail are going fully charged into myth based articles... the carparks will collapse is the best one
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh 11 месяцев назад
Car parks will collapse, will they? Range Rover = 2810 kg. Tesla Model S = 2250 kg.
@stephen300o6
@stephen300o6 Год назад
The last thing we need is a car that produces no emissions and is powered by the sun.
@BarmyFP3
@BarmyFP3 Год назад
Yep! Got my used Kona EV last September and love it. Have spent less than £100 on charging since then.
@sktaylor99
@sktaylor99 Год назад
Another excellent video from Fully Charged. I don't think enough is made of just how cheaply you can run an EV. I have a Polestar 2, Ohme Pro home charger and the Intelligent Octopus tariff. I just looked at my bill for May and paid £25 for 352kWh. I regularly hit 3 miles per kWh so that is over 1,000 miles for £25. All this from the most practical and and best looking car I've ever owned, after years of VWs and Audis.
@michaelgoode9555
@michaelgoode9555 Год назад
We went camping recently. We don't use electeic hookup for our tent as we do not use mains devices when camping. I arranged to use a hookup on our last night to charge our ID.3 as I have a charge lead with the appropriate plug fitted. At breakfast on our last day the car reached 100% charge and we left 2 hours later with 270 miles of range and a 48 mile journey. The site asked me to simply pay for the electricity at their rate which was 30 pence per kWh. Bargain really. I shall be doing this at sites with electric hookup pitches in future. Makes life so much easier and no queueing for and paying for expensive dinosaur juice. 👍
@vindeballs1
@vindeballs1 Месяц назад
A friend posted this on F/B can you put a video out to debunk this information? Look forward to sending it to him.👍 This is a Tesla model Y battery. It takes up all of the space under the passenger compartment of the car. To manufacture it you need: --12 tons of rock for Lithium (can also be extracted from sea water) -- 5 tons of cobalt minerals (Most cobalt is made as a byproduct of processing copper and nickel ores. It is the most difficult and expensive material to obtain for a battery.) -- 3 tons nickel ore -- 12 tons of copper ore You must move 250 tons of soil to obtain: -- 26.5 pounds of Lithium -- 30 pounds of nickel -- 48.5 pounds of manganese -- 15 pounds of cobalt To manufacture the battery also requires: -- 441 pounds of aluminum, steel and/or plastic -- 112 pounds of graphite The Caterpillar 994A is used to move the earth to obtain the minerals needed for this battery. The Caterpillar consumes 264 gallons of diesel in 12 hours. The bulk of necessary minerals for manufacturing the batteries come from China or Africa. Much of the labor in Africa is done by children. When you buy an electric car, China profits most. The 2021 Tesla Model Y OEM battery (the cheapest Tesla battery) is currently for sale on the Internet for $4,999 not including shipping or installation. The battery weighs 1,000 pounds (you can imagine the shipping cost). The cost of Tesla batteries are: Model 3 -- $14,000+ (Car MSRP $38,990) Model Y -- $5,000-$5,500 (Car MSRP $47,740) Model S -- $13,000-$20,000 (Car MSRP $74,990) Model X -- $13,000+ (Car MSRP $79,990) It takes 7 years for an electric car to reach net-zero CO2. The life expectancy of the battery is 10 years (average). Only in the last 3 years do you start to reduce your carbon footprint, but then the batteries must be replaced and you lose all gains made. And finally, my new friend, Michael, made some excellent points: I forgot to mention the amount of energy required to process the raw materials and the amount of energy used to haul these batteries to the U.S. sometimes back and forth a couple of times. But by all means, get an electric car. Just don't sell me on how awesome you are for the environment. Or for human rights.
@ramblerandy2397
@ramblerandy2397 Год назад
Quite a bit of pent up frustration channelled into an excellent explanation video. Well done, Dan.
@sbomorse
@sbomorse Год назад
I ran my first electric car for 10K miles without a home charger. It can be done even if it's not convenient and it's worth it for the huge cost savings. In fact I never paid a penny for those 10K miles as I used a free public charger at Co-Op. My current Kona Electric has managed a best of 314 miles on a charge - nobody can drive that long without toilet breaks etc and now I charge at home, I keep mine topped up on cheap electricity thanks to Octopus Energy.
@stevebeever2442
@stevebeever2442 Год назад
Don't know why people always say that. The point is they are not forced into stopping to hunt down chargers. They stop when they want where they want and for how long they want
@terryjimfletcher
@terryjimfletcher Год назад
I don't stop when my car wants anymore, i stop because my body tells me I'm hungry or need the bathroom, then I'll plug it in wasting 20 seconds, not the 5-10mins to fill and pay for petrol. (no-one had lunch whilst also filling their petrol tank up)
@stevebeever2442
@stevebeever2442 Год назад
@@terryjimfletcher maybe so but you obviously still need a charger to do that.
@stevebeever2442
@stevebeever2442 Год назад
@@terryjimfletcher couple week ago drove to John O Groats from Yorkshire. Over 500 miles with zero stops for fuel. Plenty stops to actually appreciate the beautiful surroundings. Not a charger or service station in sight with zero stress or planning 😊
@GDM22
@GDM22 6 месяцев назад
@@stevebeever2442 I don't understand this comment, gloating and self congratutory, almost all EV drivers have owned an ICE vehicle a high proportion probably still do, they are well aware and way more informed of the advantages and disadvantages of living with an EV than someone who has only owned an ICE vehicle. I get far more satisfaction generating my own power off my solar array and charging my EVs than I would from not stopping on a 500 mile journey, that I would do at best, once a year.
@rolixzs
@rolixzs Год назад
Excellent video, thanks for summing it up so well!
@jarleygarden3671
@jarleygarden3671 Год назад
After 3 years with an iPace I knew I would never go back to ICE cars. Now I’ve had my Polestar PS2 for 15 months and it just works so well. I live in Norway, so cold and ice for 4-5 months of the year, and range deteriorates from a bit over 400km to about 330km, with heated seats, air on on around 21-22 degrees etc. 4WD, 476hp, 1600kg towing capacity… Nope, never going backwards to internal combustion ever again 🇳🇴 OK, I’ll admit to owning and driving a Triumph Bonneville in the summer, but hey, no one’s perfect 😂
@alohadave13
@alohadave13 Год назад
This was an absolutely BRILLIANT informative video and I think one of the best from one of my favorite RU-vid channels.
@faequeenapril6921
@faequeenapril6921 Год назад
Arguing for EVs is what got me into uni to study environmental science 😂
@motorcyclemadness6006
@motorcyclemadness6006 11 месяцев назад
Brilliant
@ksnax
@ksnax Год назад
The weight issue is ridiculous. BMW produced a sub 3000lb EV for nearly 10 years while consumers insist on 300 mile range that they virtually never use.
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 Год назад
You'd be surprised how close the most efficient EV brand (cough) is in terms of weight to their nearest equivalent ICE counterparts (compared within the same segment, not the smallest ICE supermini)
@GregAnslow
@GregAnslow Год назад
We are a 100% ev family and all these myths are exactly that. All positives no negatives for us would never go back to ICE.
@John-FourteenSix
@John-FourteenSix Год назад
Anyone remember the lockdown? Remember how the air pollution reduced and how pictures emerged showing London without the smog?
@mickwilson127
@mickwilson127 Год назад
Well said Dan, the naysayers and luddites may gnash their teeth and wring their hands, but when the public cotton on to actual fuel costs of less than 4p a mile coupled with cheaper sub £20k cars, then full EV adoption becomes a no-lose proposition.
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 Год назад
Cash is king!
@gjssjg
@gjssjg Год назад
We're also bombarded with propaganda from fanatics that see EV's not as cars but religious icons.
@clives4501
@clives4501 Год назад
Amen. Climate catastrophe, net zero, "safe and effective" medical procedures - the new religions. All acts of faith.
@Balance1973
@Balance1973 Год назад
We’d a 10-month wait for our Tesla. Was worth every single day.
@Daniel-jm5hd
@Daniel-jm5hd Год назад
Excellent video. I recently went from a plug in hybrid to a full EV so had the stepping stone experience some people may need. Hated having to use the petrol engine as the electric was so much smoother and quieter. Now on salary sacrifice which makes running an EV even more affordable.
@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou
@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou Год назад
I had to google 'salary sacrifice' as I live in the USA/am ignorant. Sounds like a good idea!
@Daniel-jm5hd
@Daniel-jm5hd Год назад
@@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou It's probably a UK specific thing but is a great way for any employee to get into an electric car.
@clives4501
@clives4501 Год назад
More affordable for you, but pity the poor taxpayers who are paying for your indulgence. And they have no choice in the matter.
@SpottedCreeper
@SpottedCreeper Год назад
@@clives4501 UK gov has subsidised the UK Oil and Gas industry for decades - since the Paris Agreement they've provided a smidge under £14 billion to Oil and Gas - who is paying for that? Us poor taxpayers. Not saying that you are wrong by the way, the UK tax payers are indeed subsidising the EV salary sacrafice, but we're also paying way way more towards Oil and Gas... :(
@clives4501
@clives4501 Год назад
@O F Thanks OF. Before we get too much into the weeds it would be helpful if you would cite your source of stat's. Happy to validate them and respond.
@thecrow3461
@thecrow3461 Год назад
Great points, would also like to add that cobalt was and is still widely used by.. the fossil fuel industry.
@ivanvarcek2814
@ivanvarcek2814 Год назад
And that cobalt unlike in batteries can not be recycled. It just vanishes in the chemical process of desulfurisation.
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Год назад
@@ivanvarcek2814 I understand they now have ways to recover at least *some* of it, but how many are actually doing that?
@marcosmith6613
@marcosmith6613 Год назад
Well done on trying to counter the misinformation being spread by those who just repeat garbage from those with political and/or vested interests in fossil fuels. EV ecosystem is far from perfect but its become main stream very quickly. Battery life will soon exceed life of the vehicle and range will also match ICE.
@cg986
@cg986 Год назад
Well done. Factual and clear.
@gmuzz
@gmuzz Год назад
Great video my 9 year old Zoe is still pootling about town quite happily. I'm lucky to be able to charge at home (for free when the sun shines) but would struggle with the lack of local public charging. We really need governments to sort things out with the infrastructure.
@justaguy6216
@justaguy6216 Год назад
For a second I thought you were talking about your 9 y.o. kid and I was like "YOU LET YOU 9Y.O. DRIVE ????!!!"
@davidcolin6519
@davidcolin6519 Год назад
Definitely agree about public charging. There is so much emphasis on fast/ultra fast charging, but if local authorities provided "at cost" or "nearly cost" roadside slow charging, the stress on fast chargers could be reduced to near zero. I recognise that there is a very small percentage of people who really do need to travel more than 400km in a day, but because there isn't much in the way of slow charging anywhere, those that don't have access to home charging then do have to fast charge, which is utter madness.
@asambrook76
@asambrook76 Год назад
@@justaguy6216 I thought he was talking about the child that mined his cobalt and lithium and was quite surprised they were still alive at 9 years old to be honest!
@justaguy6216
@justaguy6216 Год назад
@@asambrook76 HAHAHHA
@drunkenhobo5039
@drunkenhobo5039 Год назад
The price of all cars has gone mental. My 2012 Suzuki cost around £13,500 new. The 2023 model costs £23,500 new. Cars are becoming completely unaffordable.
@sambira
@sambira Год назад
Sounds like we need a robotaxi fleet.
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 Год назад
Meanwhile, Tesla reduced some models by (more than?) 20% last month (Because they said they would when material costs reduced and/ or economy of scale improved)
@drunkenhobo5039
@drunkenhobo5039 Год назад
​@@rogerstarkey5390Which is nice for those in the market for a Tesla, but even the cheapest is still well above the median UK annual wage and used ones are holding their value annoyingly well.
@simonhenry7867
@simonhenry7867 Год назад
​@@drunkenhobo5039 sort of, the cut in new price is definitely proliferating through to second hand prices.
@theelectricmonk3909
@theelectricmonk3909 Год назад
@@drunkenhobo5039 You won't see a significant reduction in 2nd hand EV prices for a few years yet; they're mostly too new still. After 2030, there should be some bargains about - although early Leafs will probably be one to avoid by then.
@Naultarous
@Naultarous Год назад
I plug in at home 6 out 7 days a week. Even though I'm only in the 70% range. I like that 90% every day. I've had to supercharge like 3 or 4 times total in the last 2 years. I've driven from WIs to Texas and back without a single issue. I got to see a LOT more of the world by stopping every hour to hour and a half and was far less tired at the end of the day. I often point people to FCS channel for real facts. Thank you for being an honest source for information even the real downs. The ups far out weigh the downs. Honesty > agenda.
@dstarley
@dstarley Год назад
Great video. It would have been good to mention there's the full referenced article in the caption! I found myself questioning the "16,000 miles" payback on emissions statement, but having read up on the literature referenced I can see why this is totally plausible. I do feel it's probably a little optimistic still currently, but even at 30 to 50,000 miles with a lifespan of >>100,000 miles and all the other co-benefits from air pollution to fossil fuel reduction, it's still an absolute no-brainer!! Thanks for bringing this reference to my attention! :)
@magnesium_subsoil_94
@magnesium_subsoil_94 Год назад
Most useful video this channel made. This guy needs to be the main
@garagewindowrailway
@garagewindowrailway Год назад
I have had a BEV for just over a year; 11,150 miles, 2,914kWh into the car = 3.83 miles per kWh. And to support the video assertion... 58.8% from solar panels, 9.6% at home from overnight cheap rate grid electricity, 10.1% from free local destination chargers, 7.8% using the granny lead at family destinations and only 13.7% rapid, on the road charging (just 20 en route charges in a year!) The BEV experience was so good our 2nd car is also a BEV! But above all, 1 litre of petrol contains approx 9 kWh of energy and will power an ICE for about 9 miles (41mpg) that is approx 1 mile per kWh not the 3.85 the EV has done (all year average). Energy efficiency has to be another plus point for EV's.
@TB-up4xi
@TB-up4xi Год назад
I have had my RWD model 3 for 2 weeks. 1474 km 921 miles 171 kWh used. 5.4 miles per kWh 1/3 mix each of freeway / suburban and city. 0-15 deg temps.
@Swaharland
@Swaharland Год назад
Dam right, you tell them. My sister-in-law and I convinced my wife to buy an electric vehicle. So in my household we have an electric and a gas powered car. So I can tell you for certain that EVs are extremely cheap in the long run. Every month I pay around $340 in gas, my wife pays max including the odd charge at a shopping center. Under $30 dollars a month. So it is true that the upfront cost is expensive. However, the usage cost is substantially cheaper. All costs are in Canadian dollars. We have had the electric car for 3 years, my next car is going to be electric. 100%
@MrHemlock51
@MrHemlock51 11 месяцев назад
The one argument that's difficult to refute at the moment is that "if a BEV does catch fire, it's impossible to extinguish. The fire service just have to let it burn or bury it". I've heard this from firemen so this is official policy.
@WirelessGriff
@WirelessGriff Год назад
Great video Dan, I can directly send this to a few disbelievers I know!!
@alanrobertson9790
@alanrobertson9790 Год назад
If only it was as simple as people who like electric cars can buy them and those that don't can buy something else. If electric cars really were better there would be no need to compel anyone which is what will happen. Similar to saying North Korea is a great place but people only want to go in one direction.
@hughgriffiths6918
@hughgriffiths6918 Год назад
@@alanrobertson9790 Electric cars are far superior, we need to work towards a net zero carbon future as the burning fossil fuels will result in an existential threat to mankind or maybe you had missed that gem?
@alanrobertson9790
@alanrobertson9790 Год назад
@@hughgriffiths6918 Why do you say existential threat? Not something from the IPCC report which is available on the net in full. So lets type in "estimates of economic damage due to global warming" and see what we get. 1) World Economic forum seems a good unbiased site. Swiss report lays out the expected impact on global GDP by 2050 under four different scenarios compared to a world without climate change. These are: 4% if Paris Agreement targets are met (a well-below 2°C increase) 11% if further mitigating actions are taken (2°C increase) 14% if some mitigating actions are taken (2.6°C increase) 18% if no mitigating actions are taken (3.2°C increase). Sounds bad right? So lets get some historical perspective ourworldindata and economic-growth. Since 1960 to 2020 GDP has risen World 624%, UK 260%, USA 458%. 2) World 2021 GDP is $95 trillion. Ref International Monetary Fund World Economic Outlook (October - 2021). 3) According to a report by McKinsey (& reported too by BBC), the annual cost of getting to net zero - when carbon dioxide emissions are completely reduced or offset - will be $9.2tn (£6.8tn) [Approx 9.7% World GDP). That is the equivalent of half of all corporate profits in 2020. It is the equivalent of one quarter of all tax revenue, or 7% of household spending. So what we can learn from this is A) Its more expensive to do nothing than something B) in either event world GDP likely to increase.
@alanrobertson9790
@alanrobertson9790 Год назад
@@hughgriffiths6918 PS If electric cars really were superior then people would adopt them without needing to be persuaded. Just like canals, railways and then roads became principal transport modes because they were superior. What you are really saying is that electric cars are not superior but we will make everyone drive them because you think there is an existential threat to mankind. Not something for which you will find a credible reference.
@SALVATl0N
@SALVATl0N Год назад
Can we get sited sources for everything? It will help with trying to convince others.
@_Makanko_
@_Makanko_ Год назад
Blog post link with sources in the description. Judge for yourself their validity
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 Год назад
"GOOGLE" for the win. But, here's a start. 1) Graeme Cooper, National Grid head of future projects (or similar"..... "Expert"..... Interviews with Robert on this channel) . 2) Redwood Materials. Recycling. . 3) Tesla Impact Report. (Latest, April 2023) Debunks "relative Carbon footprint" with actual "data". . Etc
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Год назад
There are way to many people who belong to the "don't bother me with the facts, because I've made my mind up" crowd. Nothing you say or do, including posting links to sites which verify what you say, will change a thing.....
@fincaman2
@fincaman2 11 месяцев назад
He Braggs about having 200 miles of range !!! We Believe We Believe We Believe
@thebaldyhippy
@thebaldyhippy 9 месяцев назад
Ah, so regenerative breaking negates particulate emissions? Regardless of the method of slowing down, something has to stop those wheels turning an inertia driven machine, generating, you've guessed it, particulates, heavier, means more. Nothing is for free, it's physics, something has to wear away somewhere.
@lawrencetaylor4101
@lawrencetaylor4101 Год назад
There was a video on Environmental Coffeehouse about Windyday Concept. Thanks to Robert for providing much of the information, and thanks to the IEA and the OECD for providing evidence of their complicity in blocking the EV market.
@clives4501
@clives4501 Год назад
Thanks for introducing me to Environmental Coffee House. In return allow me to introduce you to "Electric Cars: Inconvenient Facts, Part One" and also Part Two. It's an excellent doco by John Stossel. I'd be interested to see your comments if you view the doco. Also I'd be happy to comment on Windyday Concept if you are interested in the views of a climate change sceptic with an open mind.
@robj5780
@robj5780 Год назад
I am pretty sure I was told every single one of those statements and was able to counter most of them. There will always be a few holdouts but we've been giving rides and let people drive our electric cars since our first one (2015) and have converted (or at least made people consider converting ) from ICE to EV.
@BioniqBob
@BioniqBob 10 месяцев назад
If not global warming will melt all the ICE (they are gone either way).
@kinkong1961
@kinkong1961 7 месяцев назад
He's spot on with his arguments I like it I've had my EV now for just over a year and I've never used a supercharger as I've never needed to even go to the seaside it cost me seven pounds as the holiday house we rented had a free charger so all it cost me was to get there can you go on holiday in your ice car drive every day exploring about 160 miles a day and only spend 7 pounds and even driving 179 miles to holiday for 7 quid it was a very hot day in the late 90s so econ was on max music on full blast and seat massager on full and I still had 69 miles of range left over when I got there. so as a retired Car mechanic and electrician and technician on fuel and ignition systems I saw the writing on the wall years ago as they never progressed they have gotten as far as they can go with fossil fuels so they cheat the emissions by using electric motors to assist the engine hybrids which to me make no sense at all.
@mchagawa1615
@mchagawa1615 Год назад
Very interesting! Thank you for this
@buixote
@buixote Год назад
They are quieter and smoother, which is virtually never discussed. They get *better mileage*(sic) in stop-n-go traffic. They don't drip fluids on the road, and don't require oil-changes. I guess it depends on what you call rubbish. Oh yeah, and you don't have to worry about your catalytic converter getting stolen.
@p.jonaitis7952
@p.jonaitis7952 Год назад
Your arguments are rubbish and so are you.
@timmurphy5541
@timmurphy5541 Год назад
Electric cars are still too expensive for me but the rate of change is so good that I don't think I'll be able to say that in a few years time when the ones that are new now become 2nd hand.
@Watch-0w1
@Watch-0w1 Год назад
I'm wondering how to use Market going to be
@philiptaylor7902
@philiptaylor7902 Год назад
Second hand EV prices have been dropping rapidly in the last six months or so, they are much more affordable now.
@davesvoboda2785
@davesvoboda2785 Год назад
You have to count the savings in petrol and maintenance. For my own case, I can't afford anything but older second hand ICE cars. Good EVs of similar age and mileage don't exist. Insurance is cheaper for old cars, since there's no loan, and no need for collision insurance. I drive as little as I can, to save money. Someday I'll be able to trade for a high mileage EV, 200k miles or so, Model 3 or similar. I look forward to that day.
@Watch-0w1
@Watch-0w1 Год назад
@@philiptaylor7902 i believe that. Battery aging
@chrisdevine4848
@chrisdevine4848 Год назад
Same. Our family is in need of a second car. I'd love it to be an EV, but they're not affordable right now. Even second hand, for a comparable petrol car.
@maxflight777
@maxflight777 Год назад
Super content ! Thanks
@harpoon2445
@harpoon2445 Год назад
Not being able to charge at home is currently a potential inconvenience that is brushed over here. You don’t want all of your charge sessions to be done while waiting and being able to charge during the night at home takes care of this. In time there will be plenty of public street charging, for people without a driveway, to solve this.
@LoneWolf-wp9dn
@LoneWolf-wp9dn Год назад
Gold standard material here! Very well done!
@clives4501
@clives4501 Год назад
If you are truly interested in gold standard material you may find it worth while Googling "Electric Cars: Inconvenient Facts, Part One" and also Part Two. It's an excellent doco by John Stossel. If you do watch it I'd be very interested in your comments.
@LoneWolf-wp9dn
@LoneWolf-wp9dn Год назад
@@clives4501 I have a documentary called "John Stossel is a lying psycho and always has been" id be very interested to hear your opinion about that
@clives4501
@clives4501 Год назад
@Lone Wolf I understand that Stossel has controversial views that many will find to be unpalatable. However I'm unable to find the video you refer to. Perhaps you can provide further info which would enable me to track it down. Unlike many, I am not afraid of the truth.
@anthonybutcher5224
@anthonybutcher5224 Год назад
Really good content as ever. Perhaps you should do a once a month FUD busting episode. 👍
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 Год назад
AKA "the Tesla method"? 😉 (Just don't tell Robert)
@BombSponge
@BombSponge Год назад
I didn't see any evidence in this video. Rare metals aren't rare? Um ok then.
@wemakecookie
@wemakecookie 11 месяцев назад
​@@BombSpongeResearch it more if you don't believe it. Rare earth metals ironically aren't that rare, it's true.
@BombSponge
@BombSponge 11 месяцев назад
@@wemakecookie If they're not that rare, why are there so few mines?
@wemakecookie
@wemakecookie 11 месяцев назад
@@BombSponge If you read about them, everywhere it will say they're relatively abundant. We have more than enough available in reserves and I'm sure we'll discover even more. We don't have more mines because we only mine as much as is needed. As demand increases, mining will increase as well.
@ouethojlkjn
@ouethojlkjn Год назад
I can agree with everything here and would add that with the "average" cost of a new car in the UK in 2023 being a whopping £39k - an MG4 starting at £27k looks like something of a bargain. Additionally, you need to compare LIKE for LIKE when considering comparable costs. My old much loved 2019 Model 3 Standard Range was a RWD 320hp machine. If you specced up (say) a 2019 BMW 3 series to compare with all the things that come as standard like electric heated memory seats, adaptive cruise etc, the Beemer was weighing in at north of £55k for something that could be anywhere near the performance. I paid £37.5k for the Tesla. Bargain. Then as was said, you get into the lack of servicing requirements to maintain a (longer) warranty, no brake pad and disk changes, no clutches, no injectors or spark plugs or filters or whatever else. I was admiring a BEV Mercedes plugged in at work and was told it cost an eye watering £95k. Yes, it was lovely, but as was said, traditional auto is concentrating on big fat soggy pimped up SUVs because that's where the profit is...
@phil48145
@phil48145 Год назад
One of the last issues for total cost is insurance groups, like a Kona at group 24
@JohnScarrott
@JohnScarrott Год назад
I insured my EV for any driver, so that any of my friends can take it out for a spin and see if they are converted. It's a 2016 30kW Leaf Tekna that I've had since 2018. Many friends asked me how it was going over the years, how I charge it, range, costs, etc, and now many of those friends have switched to EV's. I doubt I'll ever change it in for something else, as it fits my needs perfectly.
@viaja3569
@viaja3569 Год назад
Thank you so much too many people trash the EVs and here in Australia we are so far behind 🙏🏼
@Cunningcrow
@Cunningcrow Год назад
it's soooo frustrating
@Gay-is-_-trash
@Gay-is-_-trash Год назад
I hate EV so much. EV are junk, garbage. Up to 25% of EV blow up within 1 year. Junk.
@victorseal9047
@victorseal9047 Год назад
True, once you’ve gone Électrique you won’t go back - no way. 😮😅
@StrangeDisposition
@StrangeDisposition 8 месяцев назад
One thing that was not mentioned is how much solar charging helps alleviate the use of the grid.
@gmazelli
@gmazelli Год назад
Thank you for putting things straight, most myths don't stand a chance with reality
@clives4501
@clives4501 Год назад
Do you mean like the myth that the vax is safe and effective?
@MaskedMammal
@MaskedMammal Год назад
I'm at the point with EV shopping where I'm heavily considering just giving up on the idea of getting something that will work for long-distance trips, and sticking with a 'getting around town' vehicle. I can rent if I need to go farther. All the shiny, new options out there distract from the potential of a more sensible used buy - which for ICE vehicles is not a new concept but I think for EVs it's not usually considered. But for the environmentally conscious (or wallet conscious), it seems undeniably the better choice. If I'm doing any road tripping, I want something comfy, I need adaptive cruise (I had it for a few years, now I can't live without it), and if it's an EV it suddenly needs long range and good charge speed, too. The entry price for that is high no matter where you look. But if I just need a car to do the basics, to get around town and be a minimal nuisance on my life, a cheap mid-2010's EV seems like a good choice. Even a 'terrible' 50 mile range would easily get any daily necessities done. And some of those are shockingly cheap. People want a car that can do everything. As someone still driving an old ICE, I want that too. But do I really need it? Do I need to spend so much more on the ability to drive long distances which I've historically only done once or twice a year? I mean, under $10k and you get something that you never have to gas up, rarely needs any kind of maintenance (so long, Jiffy Lube), is fun to drive, and you get all the benefits of cheap insurance. Then you can spend the money you're saving on something nice to rent whenever you need to take a trip. Maybe rental EVs are becoming more of a thing, so I can live out the dream of cruising in an Ioniq 5 without having to commit more than a years' salary to living with it daily. Seems like most of the time people talk about EVs, the sales pitch is always the new stuff, but I figure there's a valid space for something a lot more affordable. The Chevy Spark EV is really speaking to me, especially in the green color. But I live in an EV desert right now, so getting my hands on anything like what I'm thinking of is a tall order currently.
@mgeorgeukyt
@mgeorgeukyt Год назад
I think used Zoe ZE40 would tick all your boxes. I went used ZE50 for the slightly longer range and 50kw charging, and have gone South Coast to mid Scotland a few times with ease.
@MaskedMammal
@MaskedMammal Год назад
@@mgeorgeukyt Oh, probably helps if I mention I'm a USA user (RIP) so a lot of those really strong budget EVs haven't made their way here.
@jamesgreenwood6733
@jamesgreenwood6733 Год назад
I hope you go for it. We have had a 'new' Nissan Leaf for 5 years, retaining my old Audi A6 for long-distance. Now we are 'busy retired', we are about to go for one,longer-range EV, and rent a car for the 1 or 2 big road trips we do a year. Free up garage space. Surprising to some, given dogs and grandchildren to cart around, we are v close to ordering Nissan Ariya Evolve long-range. We reckpong 290miles real-world. Test drive it if you can; rather more comfortable than Tesla Y.
@rpgfightin4ever
@rpgfightin4ever Год назад
chevy volt in US under 10k
@JakobusVdL
@JakobusVdL Год назад
Good for you, I think you've made the mental shift that many fail to do. An EV for your usual driving, and rentals (EV or ICE) for the occaisonal longer trip can work for many people. If more did that, it might make rental of long range EV's cheaper. Ideally, I wouldn't own a car at all and could use shared 'transport as a service' EV's for all my trips - that doesn't exist in my location (New Zealand) yet, but is in a couple of our larger cities.
@sIightIybored
@sIightIybored Год назад
Other than the upfront cost thing, there's only two things putting me of switching. The bodystyles, there is no practical estates at all, and very few low-end ones coming. The running costs of a second car mean it would take about 10 years to pay off the difference in up-front price (unless I bought a Zoe, then the battery rent would be more than I pay for fuel). I can't wait to afford one that fits what I need.
@howard922
@howard922 Год назад
My second hand ev will pay for itself in 8 years of saving on fuel and road tax etc (off grid solar charging) how many ice cars pay you back?
@TexSweden
@TexSweden Год назад
Ive owned an EV for 3 years now, love it. First time I heard these arguments IRL was yesterday out and about - it is surprising that these myths persist, "not able to tow" "low range" and "batteries are just as dirty" being the main ones...hats off to the fossil fuel company marketing and lobbyist campaigns. We need the opposite campaigns like this video but on an equal scale to the incumbents...
@Robert-cu9bm
@Robert-cu9bm Год назад
You can type, you just lose 2/3rds of usable range. If you are not buying a premium EV they do have low range, look at the leaf or Mazda MX. And batteries are dirty and carbon intensive. So they're not myths
@markgambrill
@markgambrill Год назад
@@Robert-cu9bm Batteries are reusable. Even after they have seen a life in and EV they can be used elsewhere. You can only burn hydrocarbons once and they produce harmful products as a result. Just because a battery is carbon intensive does not mean the existing alternative is better. The range bit I can understand as refuelling a combustion car is easy and fast. For most journeys an EV is fine especially if you can charge at home so never needing to go to a station to "fill up".
@kevindavis8143
@kevindavis8143 Год назад
Biggest benefit... I have solar panels in my roof, so I'm producing my own transportation energy. I don't have to rely on big oil companies playing around with the cost and making excuses to rip me off. Biggest downfall... Tires. My ID4 is RWD so those tires wear very quickly. My next EV will be AWD to distribute that wear
@captricharddee3634
@captricharddee3634 Год назад
How much did you pay for the solar panels?
@kevindavis8143
@kevindavis8143 Год назад
@@captricharddee3634 I didn't feel comfortable installing them myself, so i paid $20k. I'm saving $200/mo on energy and $400/mo on transportation (my city waives parking fees for EV), so my payoff was 3yrs. Edit: home energy, gas+electric went from a 12mo average of $350/mo to $150/mo. I average 15k miles per year, parking is $10 per work day. Tires are roughly the same as my manual transmission BMW, oil change savings are offset by a $200/yr EV tax.
@Hali88
@Hali88 Год назад
@@kevindavis8143 a great investment for those that can afford it and it sounds like it really made sense for you but most people don't have $20k spare to spend on solar panels, either because they waste their disposable income on clothes, holidays, eating out etc or because they just don't have that much disposable income.
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 Год назад
@@Hali88 But do those people have "disposable income" sufficient to drive, and pay for fuel?
@kevindavis8143
@kevindavis8143 Год назад
@@Hali88 you are correct for the moment, but there are community solar programs popping up to help those that do not live in a single family home. Charging is rough if you don't have a garage, but cities are starting to install street light outlets. New EV are expensive, but so are all new cars. Let's look at a used BMW i3 vs a Chevy Malibu... The BMW costs $3-5k more to buy, but you don't need to spend $1000 on the 100k service and Uncle Sam will knock off $4k if the BMW is a 1 owner car. Factor in the fuel savings, it is cheaper to purchase and to own.
@patrickryan6065
@patrickryan6065 Год назад
People forget to look at the total cost of ownership, say over 10 years, all they seem to look at is the initial purchase price. That being said, if my wife replaced her 10 year old Quashqai Ti with a new 2023 one, it was about $200 cheaper than the BYD Atto 3 we ended up purchasing. Then, with the $3000 subsidy from the government, it was a no brainer and that was just the purchase price. We estimate over the next 10 years we will also save over $19,000.00 just in petrol costs (that’s if petrol does not get more expensive) then roughly $5,000.00 in basic servicing, then we have consumables like tyres, (let’s say 2 full sets of tyres over ten years) brakes, wiper rubbers etc etc so I then estimate a further $3,000.00. This $3,000.00 amount I feel would still be the same for the Atto 3, as these are the same consumables as the Quashqai so this adds up to $zero. Servicing of the Atto will roughly be $300 per year as it will only need one service a year based on her usage. So we are then looking at a minimum $21,000.00 saving over 10 years. With the roughly 400km range for the Atto, she can drive to and from work all week on one charge. Our electricity is provided by our 42 solar panels for the majority of our charging needs, or if needed in bad or overcast weather we use the local 50kWh fast charger to top it up from time to time, which at present in winter costs roughly $15-20 a month. The efficiency / range of the battery is also effected during the colder months. This will improve as we come into summer and we are fully using our own renewable energy.
@lostwanderingdrifter
@lostwanderingdrifter 2 месяца назад
This is something that helps clear out my doubts. The the few concerns I have is apart from not having charging available at home, throughout the whole city, I saw only 1 rapid harging station and everywhere else are slow chargers that range from 3-7 kw. There are 22kw chargers, but being AC, affordable EVs can only take advantage of up to 7 kw. I hope there would be more EV chargers where I live.
@ericgeorge8449
@ericgeorge8449 Год назад
I am looking forward to more and better statistics about the reliability of electric cars compared to ICE. I am pretty sure that a motor with 1 moving part is going to live much, much longer than one with 1000.
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Год назад
Actually, there will be more than one moving part, if you count the bearings.... But still lots less than the thousands of parts in an ICE engine.
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 Год назад
Remember it's not just the number of parts, but the environment in which they operate. High temp, mechanical stress and corrosive fluids cause accelerated wear. Not so in an EV drivetrain.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 Год назад
I know of a motor from 1827 that still works today, its in Budapest in the museum. Out tramways and electric post mobiles in Vienna had motors which were from the end of the 19th century and lasted till the 2000s. Modern electric motors in EVs will not last as long, their electronics will last no more than 20-25 years max.
@johncouriermeh
@johncouriermeh Год назад
The battery though has a finite time when it either stops working, the range is extremely low or it catches fire. To replace a battery on a, say ten year old car is not something I would even contemplate due to replacement cost, even if it only had one moving part, which it doesn't.
@solentbum
@solentbum Год назад
@@johncouriermeh Have you checked out the cost of a new engine for an ICE?
@JGS123WRPTP
@JGS123WRPTP Год назад
More of this Dan, to the point & direct.
@clives4501
@clives4501 Год назад
Perhaps so Johnathon but you may find it worth while Googling "Electric Cars: Inconvenient Facts, Part One" and also Part Two. It's an excellent doco by John Stossel. If you do watch it I'd be very interested in your comments.
@JGS123WRPTP
@JGS123WRPTP Год назад
@@clives4501 what you’re suggesting is known as confirmation bias.
@r.a.monigold9789
@r.a.monigold9789 Год назад
Teslas are selling NEW for around $30,000 - with IRA discounts included - NOW. NO gasoline EVER. No Oil Changes EVER. No Check Engine Light EVER. No CAT Converters or Oxygen Sensors EVER. No coolant flushes EVER. No Coil Packs or spark plugs EVER. No Timing Belts EVER. Just $10.00 and 20 minutes charging every 300 miles of driving (.04¢ a mile). Over FIFTY THOUSAND chargers with 99% always working - World wide. And in many states CHEAPER Tesla car insurance. Tesla's are too expensive...
@jamiefox54
@jamiefox54 Год назад
thanks for doing this and everyone note the point that "it's all very well you watching it, and we are grateful - but this is one to send to all those non-believers and nearly EV drivers in your life!"
@John-FourteenSix
@John-FourteenSix Год назад
I am in the next few minutes about to make the last journey in my Diesel car to the garage to pick up my first EV! I’m nervous, but excited after 43 years of driving, but I’m looking forward to completing our home full electric project with an EV. Thank you for your great Chanel.
@ianhamilton3113
@ianhamilton3113 Год назад
My retirement job was as a valet parking driver at Gatwick Airport. So I have driven thousands of cars, When I drove my first EV, a Renault Zoe, I was blown away by how good such a little car could be. So I bought an EV. Very cheap to run a a big bonus.
@John-FourteenSix
@John-FourteenSix Год назад
@@ianhamilton3113 I like the idea that it can be charged free from solar and nothing has to be ignited to make it work. I think it’s a very good step forwards. I really enjoyed my day yesterday. Drove all over the place and still had 2/3rds charge remaining last night, they’re so quiet too. Picking my wife and daughter up today, and what a surprise my daughter is going to have when I turn up in an EV!
@John-FourteenSix
@John-FourteenSix Год назад
@@garysmith5025 Thank you. I had a great time yesterday. Actually looking forward to driving around again today. Take care.
@gregmorgan8350
@gregmorgan8350 Год назад
Great video, well presented
@therealjetlag
@therealjetlag Год назад
I’ve had a Fiat 500e for 18 months and I will never, ever go back to an ICE vehicle. The last time I went to a petrol garage was to buy a sandwich. The time I’ve saved queueing for petrol more than compensates for the handful of times I’ve had to stop for a charge. I’m sure there are a handful of people for whom EV tech isn’t there yet, but the majority of people have access to off street parking and average 20 miles a day, so there is no excuse for them.
@shadgrind
@shadgrind 5 месяцев назад
Hertz car hire in the US has just dumped 20,000 Teslas citing high repair costs and poor resale values, watching this after two London electric buses have burnt to the ground in two days! And I live in a block of flats with about 30 cars outside, electrical charging is too expensive at public charging stations, most of which are not under cover, you can go and buy a McDonalds and a coffee whilst you are being ripped off!
@theotherphil
@theotherphil 4 месяца назад
Hertz dropped 20,000 EV's, 600 of which were Teslas that were being retired because of high mileage. The rest of the EV's were crappy Chevy Bolts, Nissan Leaf's and similar with poor reliability.
@TopGunZero
@TopGunZero 3 месяца назад
I'll tackle the Hertz argument here. Context matters a lot. Hertz bought a lot of Teslas but did not have a master service agreement with them. What were they using these cars for? Renting out to your average consumer? No. They used it as part of a deal with Uber for ride sharing. These vehicles as a result had significantly more wear than your average rental vehicle which is already more than your average consumer vehicle. Worse is that these Uber drivers largely don't know how to use and maintain EVs. These cars are also closer to the luxury line, meaning of course they're going to be more expensive to repair than say a Toyota or Honda with fewer places available to make specific repairs. There are unique reasons why EVs make a lot of sense for Uber and other ride share drivers, but this is not a normal situation and such Hertz should have planned better around this. - Master Service Agreement in place with Tesla - Specific charging rules around their rentals - Specific charging areas; these cars were not meant to be supercharged multiple times a day. As for your other points: Ask yourself why bus fires might be more common than car fires. Could it be a problem with a specific manufacturer? And the one thing I will concede is that I tell most people if you don't have access to home charging, hold off on buying an EV right now. Public charging at the moment, at least in my estimation, is about convenience and shouldn't be relied on as a primary source of charging. Once this is more charging supply, maybe I'll move off that point, but as of today, I think that is pretty much the case.
@engineeringtheweirdguy2103
@engineeringtheweirdguy2103 2 месяца назад
@@TopGunZerospot on. Also hertz did also confirm that their Tesla fleet was being damaged at disproportionately high rates. Likely due to false confidence in the safety features. When ABS was first introduced to taxis in newyork on a trial, rear ending accidents actually increased. That’s because the drivers were told they had a shorter stopping distance. And the result was that they drove closer to the car infront, far to confident in the ABS’s effectiveness, and unaware of how reaction times affect your ability to stop. Abs might be able to stop a car in less than 20 meters but it takes another 20 meters for your brain to register, respond, then move your foot and apply the brake. So part of the problem here was also the Uber drivers themselves.
@pinkelephants1421
@pinkelephants1421 Год назад
You may hate being on camera and in the spotlight in general Dan, but this is an excellent summation of EV's and the reality of the sustainable transition. I'll be permanently saving this in my RU-vid renewable energy playlist in order to share it with naysayers and the curious alike, alongside Robert's - The Dirty Truth About Combustion Engine Vehicles.
@clives4501
@clives4501 Год назад
Confirmation bias is a wonderful thing. Have you tried googling "the truth about ev's" or similar?
@pinkelephants1421
@pinkelephants1421 Год назад
@@clives4501 Not confirmation bias. Merely a combination of making a point to listen to the experts and witnessing what's happening before my very eyes; not difficult. Besides, if that's your attitude, why on earth watch RU-vid channel that's about all things sustainable and the energy transition? Very illogical.
@theelectricmonk3909
@theelectricmonk3909 Год назад
@@clives4501 "Confirmation bias is a wonderful thing" - yup. It makes people like you continue to write utter bollocks, flying in the face of every available fact.
@clives4501
@clives4501 Год назад
@@pinkelephants1421 Thanks Pink Elephants. Even experts differ. That is the nature of debate. To expose oneself to alternative views and contrary opinions is fundamental to understanding the world we live in. I am interested in sustainability and energy transition. Not to bolster my own beliefs and ego, but rather to learn from others who may offer a rational and contrary argument. You may find that approach to be illogical - that's OK. You are entitled to your opinion and to trust the opinions of your chosen experts. I do not seek to change your mind or to alter any of your views. I am a firm believer in the Socratic method.
@pinkelephants1421
@pinkelephants1421 Год назад
@@clives4501 👍👍👍👌👌👌
@johnford3825
@johnford3825 Год назад
Another issue with ICE vehicles is the heat given up to the atmosphere. Every modem ICE powered vehicles is fitted with a catalyst which only works when at high temperature. This temperature is lost to the atmosphere when the car is parked. Not much of an issue for one car but a big problem when millions are giving up 600C after every journey.
@murrieteacher
@murrieteacher Год назад
I never thought of that! It is great when you get a concept you have had for a while and someone shows you the error of that thought. I have always seen the "no Driveway" as a problem with EV's and never gave a thought that most commuter trips top do not go over 80Klm per day. So you really don't need to charge every day. And now that I have retired I can go up to 3 weeks without getting petrol and i expect EV's to do similar times. Bugger! I just spent $8000 plus fixing my poorly constructed engine in my Skoda. I wonder what the trade in on a new MG EV is?
@fairman14065
@fairman14065 Год назад
Pleased to be anticipating the second EV in our garage today! Seems more than plausible that petroleum companies are behind the lies, damn lies and statistics. Great segment!
@TundeEszlari
@TundeEszlari Год назад
Impressive content.
@capnkirk5528
@capnkirk5528 Год назад
Extremely well done, and I can only find fault with ONE point - the last one. EVs are ALREADY cheaper than a purely comparable ICE vehicle. The only limiting factor on EVs (and a bunch of other tech) right now is how fast you can scale the manufacture of batteries and other components. A glut of relatively cheap batteries will change almost everything.
@ouethojlkjn
@ouethojlkjn Год назад
I commented similar to you.
@PHXRenegade
@PHXRenegade Год назад
I have 2 friends that are dead set against electric cars and I simply don't know why. One says "It doesn't have the range to do my "once a fortnight trip of 220 miles". Oh yes they do. The other is hanging on for hydrogen fuel cells. I have pointed out that the number of hydrogen filling stations (which never went above single digits?) has dropped, whereas the number of electric charging points is growing every day. And I have another who warily bought an e-power Qashqai and loves it. Just got to get him to change the way he powers the electric motor 🙂
@VictorGoesElectric
@VictorGoesElectric 5 месяцев назад
I have a friend, who questioned my decision on going electric, “they always brake diwn” he said, and 1 minute later started to complain his 70k miles VW Caddy 7 seater thingy cost him £1000 for new clutch, flywheel and a starter. I laughed a lot that day.
@Lewis_Standing
@Lewis_Standing Год назад
Well done Dan, you do just fine in front of the camera!