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Deciphering the story trailer | Elden ring shadow of the Erdtree lore 

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In this video we will decipher the newest trailer for shadow of the Erdtree.
we have been tricked by Miyazaki and upon looking into the trailer from that perspective we will discover a lot of interesting details and answer a lot of question.
Chapters:
00:00 Miyazaki played us so hard
01:46 Marika's ascension
02:28 Making the Erdtree
03:56 The crucible
05:25 The golden item
07:00 Miquella
08:00 Ave Marika prayer
09:00 Miquella is Jesus propaganda
09:25 DLC main quest
11:50 Saint trina
13:17 Messmer and the crucible
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@jackjones7062
@jackjones7062 Месяц назад
We were living in the 'post-eclipse' world this entire time, Griffith already became a god and ruled for an eternity in this version of berserk. Quite horrifying.
@crezd5028
@crezd5028 Месяц назад
I am 300hrs into Elden ring. I can’t believe I never thought of that before. That’s a perfect analogy.
@G4meplus
@G4meplus Месяц назад
Exactly.
@professormurdoc1359
@professormurdoc1359 Месяц назад
I am 240 hours in. I knew it was influenced by Berserk, but I had no idea it was to such an extent. You have made a very strong and convincing case. This is incredible.
@gergelymacsai3776
@gergelymacsai3776 Месяц назад
I watched a ton of lore channels tiptoe around what the golden strands Marika retrieves from the corpse of the previous god might be and YOU are the first to finally say it's the Elden Ring. I mean, what else would it be? The theme plays under it, the strands look the same, and it is literally removed from the belly/womb of the slain/betrayed predecessor. Fantastic work, as always.
@jakemoore5077
@jakemoore5077 Месяц назад
Ive heard zio, vaati, nd a couple others mention it looks like part of the elden ring. The day it came out
@user-mq7ew7yt6c
@user-mq7ew7yt6c Месяц назад
And what is the Elden Ring exactly and what does the bearer get from it?
@matthewkuru6918
@matthewkuru6918 Месяц назад
I'm thinking the god that got betrayed was the gloam eyed queen
@Ale-ey3xv
@Ale-ey3xv Месяц назад
@@user-mq7ew7yt6cthe Elden ring are the laws of the universe and whoever “bears” it can manipulate it and remove concepts such as death itself which is what Marika did.
@flobbergassy
@flobbergassy Месяц назад
It just looks like goo to me, I don't see the golden light everyone is talking about
@lespaulmelonburst
@lespaulmelonburst Месяц назад
Step aside Ziostorm and Ratatoskr, your analysis gave me goosebumps throughout the way
@avalokiteshvara113
@avalokiteshvara113 Месяц назад
Ratatoskr is such a smarmy annoying dude
@Wizard_Pikachu
@Wizard_Pikachu Месяц назад
​@@avalokiteshvara113 Yeah I can see that. He kinda been getting annoying lately.
@Sarkov.
@Sarkov. 26 дней назад
​@@Wizard_Pikachu Out of curiosity, how?
@mrrootytooty5797
@mrrootytooty5797 Месяц назад
I think you are right on all of this, nobody else's analysis makes as much sense :)
@chroma9008
@chroma9008 Месяц назад
Super cool theory! Here's a possible addition to it -- curious what you think of it. What is Miquella's motivation to go to the land of shadow now? Why didn't he go before? I think it might be because he just found out about his mother's betrayal, who had kept it hidden even from her children. How might he have discovered this? Because he was trapped by Mogh, in communion with the Formless Mother, who is also known as the 'Mother of Truth.' I don't think that name is a coincidence. Perhaps this Outer God revealed the truth of the Erdtree to Miquella, while still in the cocoon, which would give us a glimpse into Miquella's intentions. We hear that Miquella cares for the meek and downtrodden (similar to Jesus). If he suddenly discovered the truth that his mother and Messmer were slaughtering so many Crucible-beings to support her illusion, it might enrage him enough to take matters into his own hands and go put a stop to his older brother (Messmer) and mother. After all, "he wields love to shrive clean the hearts of men. There is nothing more terrifying," which could mean that his love for the outcasts may prompt him towards vengeance. Perhaps then, Miquella does need our help, after all. I'd love that storyline, personally. What do you think of that?
@lynackhilou4865
@lynackhilou4865 Месяц назад
I think he learned of this before mohg took kim and that learning of the origin of the golden order is what pushed him to formulate this plan and go to the shadowland . Let's not forget miquella has good knowledge of the golden order from his father radagon and only left it because of its limitation and it being unable to cure his sister , i feel miquella reached a similar conculsion to gold mask about the ficklness of the gods of the order but instead of making a mending rune or something like that , he had a more far reaching plan that would be more similar to what marika did at the begenning ( although maybe this time with less sacrifices )
@galaxsija4591
@galaxsija4591 Месяц назад
This gave me the chills bro! Man, the idea of a legit HERO in a fromsoft game is kinda wild but I am so here for it if Miquella really is the Ultimate Chad.
@timpeterson175
@timpeterson175 Месяц назад
I love this ❤
@chroma9008
@chroma9008 Месяц назад
​@@galaxsija4591 , ​ @timpeterson175 , yeah I'm leaning into this one more and more. I do believe now that Miquella's goal is to re-unite the gold with the shadow. The 'graceful' from the Lands Between with the 'ungraceful' from Land of Shadow. Like one big happy/dysfunctional family. In cut content from the main game, Miquella is quoted as saying to the tarnished, '“If thou covetest the throne, Impress my vision upon thine heart. In the new world of thy making, all things will flourish, whether graceful, or malign.” That's his vision, to unite all the mofos everywhere, no matter how many hearts he needs to shrive clean to do it (with our help) :P Let's gooooooooo!
@Planetside223
@Planetside223 Месяц назад
When I looked up the definition of shrive I had a ‘oh damn’ moment.
@user-kh1ey2wz2y
@user-kh1ey2wz2y Месяц назад
Definitely the clearest and, imo, most accurate comparison between Elden Ring and Berserker. By far the best Shadow of the Erd Tree theory/explanation. This guy knows his stuff.
@G4meplus
@G4meplus Месяц назад
Thanks a lot my friend, glad you liked it ❤️
@kwon7378
@kwon7378 15 дней назад
💯
@camelia4603
@camelia4603 Месяц назад
The story trailer starts with "miquella said" (similar to item descriptions with "it is said"), so I definitely think it's a biased account
@reign1594
@reign1594 Месяц назад
Possible, yes.
@tehardegames
@tehardegames Месяц назад
The narrator also keeps saying "kind Miquella" so that character is most probably biased.
@reign1594
@reign1594 Месяц назад
@@tehardegames I mean, they're in the same group as him. It's plain
@Tyanus2
@Tyanus2 Месяц назад
Yeah his followers are trying to reach him and they believe his intentions are good, but are they really? Man I can't wait to get to know that.
@qwarrentine
@qwarrentine Месяц назад
Yea the narrator is definitely one of the people we see following miquellas grace
@Cleoli2
@Cleoli2 Месяц назад
Great analysis! You actually catching the "Ave Marika" in that song is incredible, I havent seen anyone hearing this (me included)
@AbhishekRanaGuitar
@AbhishekRanaGuitar Месяц назад
I heard the same when i saw the trailer.
@core-nix1885
@core-nix1885 Месяц назад
In Schuon's Perennialism, the Logos is identified in both Jesus *and* Mary - Marika is like a symbolic superposition of the two. Marika isn't just named after Maria; Malika is Arabic for Queen, and the anagram Kalima is Arabic for Logos (Word). (Compare this with Kalameet being a transposition of Kalimat (Words [plural])
@G4meplus
@G4meplus Месяц назад
First time i watched it i was sure i heard Marika so i used a website to split the vocal / lyrics and it becomes much more easier to hear it.
@Cleoli2
@Cleoli2 Месяц назад
@@G4meplus Interesting!
@ATC43
@ATC43 Месяц назад
All of this video especially the Golden Item section is brilliant. Of all analysis Ive seen, I think youve cracked the code for what is happening in that intro scene and with Miquella. EXCELLENT VIDEO.
@G4meplus
@G4meplus Месяц назад
Thanks a lot my friend, glad you liked it.
@JGamerKiller
@JGamerKiller Месяц назад
Your theory seems to also get some meaning to what Miyazaki said to IGN: "First of all, the setting of Shadow of the Erdtree is a brand new land. It's a brand new map separate from the Lands Between. It is a land that is overshadowed by the particular Shadow of the Erdtree as opposed to the Erdtree in the Lands Between. And it takes place, again, on an entirely separate, physically separate map. So it will involve a warp of sorts to get there. In terms of setting and themes, it technically occupies the same space as the Lands Between, the same universe. But due to something story related that we won't reveal today, this has become physically disconnected, and you'll travel to the Shadow of the Erdtree land as a separate place."
@chillylagarto7728
@chillylagarto7728 Месяц назад
I think that Miquella also seeks to follow in these same footsteps, all so that he'll finally have a solution to Malenia's Scarlet Rot. The Golden Order has no solution to the Scarlet Rot, Miquella discovered this when his Haligtree fell to the Scarlet Rot itself, despite receiving his blood. However, to separate himself from the control of the Greater Will, he had to divest himself of his Empyrean flesh much like Ranni. He did this by letting Mohg steal him away and kill him through his corruption. I don't think Miquella is an "evil" character, he simply has a goal to achieve and is willing to scheme and manipulate those that love him to achieve this goal. His Church of the Eclipse in Castle Sol is far too suspicious for me to think that Miquella is completely innocent.
@phanlee4621
@phanlee4621 Месяц назад
plot twist: he betrayed Malenia to archive his goal, Malenia is just the tool for him (Just like Berserk's Grifith did)
@TheRealJohnux
@TheRealJohnux Месяц назад
You know, If Miquella followed in Marikas footsteps, that just means he will try to Replikate what she did.
@mastermg1826
@mastermg1826 Месяц назад
back with another great vid,keep up the amazing work my dude
@PeacefulSerb
@PeacefulSerb Месяц назад
Was waiting for your video man 👍 don't stop
@G4meplus
@G4meplus Месяц назад
Hope you enjoy it.
@KaiHarizor
@KaiHarizor Месяц назад
This was a really great analysis. Keep up the great work! I’ll be looking forward to your videos once the DLC comes out.
@ElysianDivine
@ElysianDivine Месяц назад
Great work as always. 6:53 awesome connection here
@TheSolemnmiddnite
@TheSolemnmiddnite Месяц назад
I really enjoyed this video! I think my favorite theories that no one else had presented before (so kudos to you cuz now I love them lol! )is that seed Marika took from the corpses at the base of the Greattree that maybe Messmer was tending, is the Current Erdtree, and that the GreatTree is a Helix tree, like we see as the symbol for many things associated with Gods in this game. So if its the same seed from that tree that Marika has taken, (through seduction and Betrayal) then it stands to reason that the current Erdtree was ALSO supposed to be a Helix tree, associating it with the Crucible and Primordial, but! In order to prevent that, maybe, or for any reason unknown cuz this is a FromSoft Game lol, she split the Tree, showing only the Straightened half to signify the Golden order, and left the half of the Spiraling Erdtree in the Shadowlands, which is why it has her bedchamber cloth 'over it' if you will, like covering it. I wouldnt be surprised if it stands in the part of the map where the Golden Erdtree is in the water, since we've already seen before how old locations easily line up between the above and underground and missing pieces of the map. Thanks for the good food for thought! Great Video!
@cledosliop4175
@cledosliop4175 Месяц назад
I know Miyazaki has always been a huge fan of Berserk but so many years after, gosh, we can still see so many traces and similarities of Berserk in his new project😂. This is true love.
@PecxGaming
@PecxGaming Месяц назад
this video gave me chills.. resonated with many of my assumptions too
@ninjabackhand1337
@ninjabackhand1337 Месяц назад
Literally the most competent and comprehensive ER theorist on YT. Amazing video, please keep them coming!
@oscarprince3613
@oscarprince3613 Месяц назад
very insightful! great video man
@G4meplus
@G4meplus Месяц назад
Thanks a lot my friend, glad you liked it.
@laszlokovac6173
@laszlokovac6173 Месяц назад
Your theories are great mind games and i think you are right with a lot of it.
@KaiHarizor
@KaiHarizor Месяц назад
Also subscribed, your other videos are well thought out as well, wowzers
@G4meplus
@G4meplus Месяц назад
Welcome aboard, glad you enjoyed.
@galaxsija4591
@galaxsija4591 Месяц назад
Another excellent video, man! You are always incredibly thoughtful and you explain things very succinctly and clearly. Special thanks for explaining more of the Berserker connections and back story for those of us who are unfamiliar. TBH I would totally watch a video from you fully explaining Berserker just for fun
@crozraven
@crozraven Месяц назад
Just like Marika = Griffith comparison, I think Miquella real characterization is Miquella = Moonlight boy. From visual alone, we cam already see similarities of how both once cocooned inside an egg, both have split bodies, astral & material, both have moon symbolism. both depicted as a beautiful boy.
@empyrealcultist1992
@empyrealcultist1992 Месяц назад
The moonlight child is not beautiful or described as such
@flixfixonyt
@flixfixonyt Месяц назад
My take between the gameplay / story trailer about Messmer is this: he says "mother wouldst thou truly lordship sanction, in one so bereft of light?" pertaining to the player protagonist, but also establishing a connection between IMO marika, as mother. He also states, "those stripped of the grace of gold shall all meet death, in the embrace of messmer's flames" so clearly everyone in the shadowland has been 'stripped' of the grace of gold and he's alluding that everyone under the shadow realm found without grace will die, hence the gigantic pile of bodies forming the erdtree base, the unseen war, etc. and finally at the end he's impaled everyone, conquered them, and he's just chilling on his polearm starring up at the tree, and where the gold/sap whatever flows to a point, makes the exact same pose as Marika, alluding to him serving her. Also he sits on the throne chair so clearly he has a demi-god connection with Marika, and the seduction/betrayal I think has to do with her conceiving Messmer, then using her progeny to betray the shadow realm while also diving the realms and ascending to godhood.
@israelvaldez26
@israelvaldez26 Месяц назад
I just wanted to say that your videos are some of the most interesting when it comes to deciphering Elden Rings lore.
@user-pi5fp5vq8w
@user-pi5fp5vq8w Месяц назад
Amazing research work, well done !
@hystericbunny76
@hystericbunny76 Месяц назад
That was amazing, your take on this is very very possible.
@danielboswaaldijk3086
@danielboswaaldijk3086 Месяц назад
Magnificent theory, really liked the video!
@CFGroove
@CFGroove Месяц назад
You have the best lore breakdowns in the community. KEEP GOING
@DominionofAiur
@DominionofAiur Месяц назад
Awesome video. Subbed and watching all your videos.
@Chessheromusic
@Chessheromusic Месяц назад
Yes and what started that ritual?
@G4meplus
@G4meplus Месяц назад
Welcome aboard!
@brianrobinson3961
@brianrobinson3961 Месяц назад
The best theory I’ve heard so far. Subbed!
@lucianknowles336
@lucianknowles336 Месяц назад
Marika is reaching into a Swaddling cloth
@Eyes4Brains
@Eyes4Brains Месяц назад
The whole reference to seduction, betrayal, and “affair… gold arose” seems very much about Godfrey. I think this story trailer might be showing Marika pulling Godfrey’s great rune out of him. Godfrey is part of the “golden lineage”, so the idea that taking his rune somehow related to gold arising kinda makes sense. Per Melina, Marika sends Godfrey away to be killed (sacrificed and fed to Erdtree). Sacrificing Godfrey and all his army would be as f’d up as Griffith sacrificing the band of the hawk. Enough to finish the process of breaking barrier between living and astral worlds (like you said). Marika also said (per Melina) that she would give back what she once claimed. I think Marika gives Godfrey back his great rune some time during our main playthrough, which why we were able to fight him in the end and claim it for ourselves.
@DarthGoss
@DarthGoss Месяц назад
A truly top level elden ring lore video, well done!
@jamesio20
@jamesio20 26 дней назад
I didnt start playing until january, but since then ive done a 200+ hour playthrough where i did 90% of the content. Everyone thi ks of miquella as this griffith-like character. It completely kept me from ever thinking of marika as that character. Awesome job, love the videos.
@rodjones4005
@rodjones4005 Месяц назад
Outstanding analysis!! Like everyone else is saying. Out of all the analysis I've watched, yours is definitely making alot more sense of what's going on in this trailer!
@sandcake
@sandcake Месяц назад
Great video. Thank You!
@RetroVideoGamer23
@RetroVideoGamer23 Месяц назад
Bro, your content is amazing, I hope your channel explodes asap, take care
@mohgceoofblood8235
@mohgceoofblood8235 Месяц назад
It wasn’t a Marika all along , Marika had regrets at the end of her life - while Miquella is bound to repeat her mistakes because he is mini her at this point in his life
@user-qt3nu3ny2k
@user-qt3nu3ny2k Месяц назад
I believe miquella can put an end to the tragedy…… Because even without body and strength,he He remained pure of heart。
@mohgceoofblood8235
@mohgceoofblood8235 Месяц назад
He can’t , because everything was Fixed by Marika and continued by Ranni in the end - this is Why he was cut from the main game. Marika already redeemed herself when she returned Grace to Godfrey (and giving him his hardest fight yet) and to us.We also freed the lands beetween from the Greater Will. Miquella would be another God in his name - just like Griffith would be I Think the sole reason for Miquella and Malenia not succeding in Shattering is because Marika wouldn’t want them to - she wanted The Tarnished to become a Lord (Godfrey grace guides him to us, not the Erdtree, Marika Gifted him the fight of his life) and Ranni to fullfill her destiny, the only Empyrean worthy of the throne, because she didn’t want it in the first place
@user-qt3nu3ny2k
@user-qt3nu3ny2k Месяц назад
@@mohgceoofblood8235 Don‘t you know Ranii and Marika are enemies?😨 Ranni killed Godwhy so she was hunted by marika Miquella and Ranni are probably working together,Ranii didn't trust you until she recognized Torrent's former owner,That's probably miquella
@mohgceoofblood8235
@mohgceoofblood8235 Месяц назад
@@user-qt3nu3ny2k read my comment , i added new paragraph to it . You miss the point - Marika wanted it to end that way , they both wanted to get rid of the Greater Will and Elden Beast - Marika played chess 5D , allowing Ranni to do her thing
@mohgceoofblood8235
@mohgceoofblood8235 Месяц назад
@@user-qt3nu3ny2k Godwyn was a scapegoat, so the Shattering might happen,So the Marika could have a reason to Shatter the Elden Ring - gods play at high stakes only same thing goes for Morgott, another Scapegoat
@McDudes
@McDudes Месяц назад
What a good video! I subscribed
@lordofchaosinc.261
@lordofchaosinc.261 Месяц назад
Just what I was thinking. It was crazy to model the Launiakea supercluster after the Elden Beast. Good video, noone noticed the Ave Marika. I think it's all solid, subbed.
@waltercook3843
@waltercook3843 Месяц назад
Awesome theory, very efficient!
@oliloc2692
@oliloc2692 Месяц назад
PERFECT VIDEO!!! THX BRO
@perfectblue8443
@perfectblue8443 Месяц назад
the best trailer breakdown for this DLC
@G4meplus
@G4meplus Месяц назад
Glad you enjoyed it ❤️
@gothxm
@gothxm 21 день назад
Dude, i love that connection you made with people loving and doubting miquella across both trailers, i made that same connection myself and was giddy about it too. i think it holds some hints about the dlc like you said. now onto the other stuff... with miyazaki's games there's always a great sin to create the shining city or order. marika was always my favorite character in the game just off of wanting to know her "why?" why is she the way she is. she is truly monstrous but maybe we'll understand her pathos in the dlc. i cant say he "played me" personally because i always had the vague idea that "this world is messed up" the details of it werent apparent but Marika always seemed like a conqueror, a sinful great god and the vast variations in her children might also explain a bit about who she was as well, completely unknowable to her children so they find their own way. her sins details just weren't clear yet but i had some idea that she wasnt some christ-like figure just from the world we enter. i'd be more surprised at finding out Miquella is actually a decent dude whos trying to help you and isnt some charismatic misguided figure who wants to save the world in some way we fiercely disagree with just like every other great god or figure in the fromsoftware catalog. i think the most sane great figure we ever meet in fromsoftware is Isshin Ashina. He's a conqueror but he did it for good reasons and he was never revealed to have been corrupted by some vainglorious thing. He legit wanted Ashina to stand on its own and be proud, and he seeme like a great man to know personally too. not just from afar. also one last thing, hoping you read this especially, i saw that the architecture at the opening of the erdtree in the basegame (godfrey arena) had this flower symbol that looks similar to the flower symbol shown in the arena that you fight that big lion mane enemy. we know they represent a culture that existed before the erdtree from miyazaki's interview. i just thought that might be a curious connection. might be nothing at all if im wrong, im playing the game to get a look at the boss arena of morgott/godfrey again. ill compare and see if they are truly similar or if im misremembering
@wasichu7275
@wasichu7275 Месяц назад
wow-- im only 4 mins in and this is by far the clearest explanation of the trailer I've seen so far.
@Blindcontroller
@Blindcontroller 26 дней назад
That looks like a rune arc maybe she needed a big one to power the great runes she collected from wars.
@TheAjmos
@TheAjmos Месяц назад
Banger vid 🤘
@grayhat_9x
@grayhat_9x Месяц назад
Actually insane theories I think you are right about majority of your prediction
@davidanderson9967
@davidanderson9967 Месяц назад
It's natural to think there is a twist with Miq, we barely know anything about him. But I think it would be a bigger twist to find miq was a real good demigod
@G4meplus
@G4meplus Месяц назад
True.
@davidanderson9967
@davidanderson9967 Месяц назад
I have to say radahn seemed pretty based as well as godwyn. Maybe it was a terrible parents goof children kinda deal lol.
@MrJambiwana
@MrJambiwana Месяц назад
that could be a cocoon similar to Miquellas that Marika pulls the gold strands from and what Mohg is doing to Miquella is offering tarnished blood instead of whatever Marika offered the other cocoon
@timdiggity
@timdiggity Месяц назад
Amazing analysis. The observation about the strands and the Laniakea Supercluster is so good! Definitely a visual inspiration. Also I really need to finish reading Berserk
@G4meplus
@G4meplus Месяц назад
Really glad that you liked it Tim, watched your analysis video yesterday and it was great ❤️
@DARTHSTR1FE
@DARTHSTR1FE 27 дней назад
I saw a video on RU-vid where someone pointed out that person in the trailer holding the elden thing isnt Marika but actually Miquela. They zoomed in on the hair and theres a braid which is something Miquela usually sports.
@theboochiestore
@theboochiestore Месяц назад
IM SO GLAD YOU SAID IT WAS TELLING MY FREIND THIS LAST NIGHT
@PWizz91
@PWizz91 Месяц назад
I don’t think a single other RU-vidr noticed the ave marika
@yahya7790
@yahya7790 Месяц назад
Interesting and mind blowing theories 👏🏻
@G4meplus
@G4meplus Месяц назад
Thanks a lot my friend, glad you liked it.
@doofusrick5998
@doofusrick5998 Месяц назад
He tricked us by making us think that Miquella would have the cutest feet, but it was actually Marika all along
@aolodlerdon2267
@aolodlerdon2267 Месяц назад
Wonderful analysis!i like it!
@AntiRiku
@AntiRiku 29 дней назад
This channel is such a gem
@jessetoews2446
@jessetoews2446 Месяц назад
amazing vid!
@Hyto1892
@Hyto1892 Месяц назад
Love the fact one of my favorite anime has so many ties to Elden ring
@maijieg822
@maijieg822 Месяц назад
Someone who finally says Miquella isn't Griffith. Pretty interesting takes and really informative too. Cheers! Looking forward to more of your videos.
@jorgeluna6577
@jorgeluna6577 29 дней назад
Mind blowing video, and now I'm a believer. Berserk is a direct inspiration, and the faction is crazy
@FeelTehPOWA
@FeelTehPOWA Месяц назад
i think the stomach/corpse thingy is a face? you can see the corner of the mouth and corner of the eye, face upside down.. and shes retrieving grace strands* from her/his eyes... i remember someone discovering most models have a gold hue in their irises except those who were stripped of gold, or something like that
@gLobbZ
@gLobbZ 26 дней назад
I find it very interesting that we still don't really know what Marika's or Miquella's full face look like. It's definitely very international imagery, but I wonder why. 🤔
@FrankSwancey
@FrankSwancey Месяц назад
I've always thought the PC was the antagonist. Mesmer is the hero, defending the Greater Will.
@manuelcordova7349
@manuelcordova7349 Месяц назад
Great video 😊
@tairram
@tairram Месяц назад
Great theory. It makes sense 🔥🔥
@AN-dv5fs
@AN-dv5fs Месяц назад
Might be a weird thought, but "Lord who makes the trees grow well" made me think of slash and burn farming.
@G4meplus
@G4meplus Месяц назад
Great connection , actually went over that in a way on my Messmer video (speculated that he may have been the one to burn the Erdtree originally because it was dying).
@shutup6415
@shutup6415 Месяц назад
Another interesting parallel is Messmer and Marika with Guts and Griffith. Guts helped Griffith fight his battles and ascend to godhood, only to be betrayed as soon as he achieved this. Messmer seems to have been imprisoned in the shadow realm, likely by Marika, betraying him after he fought her battles for her and helped her become a god. Messmer is depicted as this super evil guy but I think it’s misdirection, and he will actually be a sort of “tragic hero” character that a lot of From’s games have, like Artorias, Ludwig, and Gael.
@thegitgudgrrl
@thegitgudgrrl Месяц назад
This is fantastic analysis. I'm hoping we get covenants again so i hope you are right!
@vanDaalstad
@vanDaalstad Месяц назад
this is exactly what i was looking for after the story trailer dropped. I'm not 100% on board with everything in this theory just yet, but you bet i'm gonna keep it in mind with every revelation we get in the DLC
@Chessheromusic
@Chessheromusic Месяц назад
I had a thought Maliketh says Marika betrayed him He says "why shatter" It seems like our steps have been ordered by Miquella even in the base game Recieving torrent and the spirit calling bell If the player character is Miquellas shadow Maybe Miquella will betray us the same way Marika betrayed maliketh. It would explain why all trailers have the player character wearing the raging wolf armor
@BigV24
@BigV24 27 дней назад
Fantastic analysis. I had a similar feeling that Messmer and Marika are on good terms and the real choice we have to make is in regards to Miquella/St. Trina. I’m hoping that your theory is true and the ending we get reflects which faction we choose to believe in the most.
@Jay_Z33
@Jay_Z33 Месяц назад
Amazing theories. I’m all in
@morgymomo8535
@morgymomo8535 Месяц назад
I LOVE THIS THEORY! BRO COOKED 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Mainlymundane
@Mainlymundane Месяц назад
I’m so hype for this DLC to drop
@jessetoews2446
@jessetoews2446 Месяц назад
liked, sub'd, that bezerk griffith body pile reference
@halloweenjack95
@halloweenjack95 20 дней назад
Awesome Video
@joesaiditstrue
@joesaiditstrue 28 дней назад
10:09 "They were never saints, they were just on the losing side of a war" Interesting quote, depending on who that was who said it
@Boss_Fight_Wiki_muki_twitch
@Boss_Fight_Wiki_muki_twitch Месяц назад
it feels like that figure is marika, post-infection by the elden beast (mid transformation into radagon), and she's triggering the transformation of the great tree into the erdtree
@morgoth9590
@morgoth9590 Месяц назад
It makes sense that Messmer would be in charge of feeding the tree corpses because with the Rune of Death taken from the Lands Between nobody is dying and being given an Erdtree burial. Nice catch.
@slappzzz
@slappzzz Месяц назад
Holy shit.... your right dude. Your on to something
@sleepinggiant3353
@sleepinggiant3353 Месяц назад
You are amazing my friend, awesome theory , well know Miyazakis world is inspired alot by berserk, so i think what you saying makes complete sense
@morrodevintem
@morrodevintem 25 дней назад
Keeps me giggle everytime that people once again shocked that Miyazaki once again referenced Berserk
@XraynPR
@XraynPR Месяц назад
Small comment, the Laniakea Cluster doesnt "look" like that, those are visual representations of the flow of galaxies towards it over time
@younesbarakat1395
@younesbarakat1395 25 дней назад
I just want to point out, it seems the shadow tree in the trailer has two spiraling trunks. If you zoom in on the base of the tree in the trailer there's a gap of light coming through it.
@Eyes4Brains
@Eyes4Brains Месяц назад
All I could think was Berserk when I saw the bodies piled too. I’ve thought about the whole world tree thing but could never quite connect it so clearly like you did on this video. And major props on connecting Falconia to Leyndell. Where the hell is Guts?!
@Eyes4Brains
@Eyes4Brains Месяц назад
LIGHTBULB! Godfrey is Guts! Shadow beast on his back and everything! Godfrey was the sword of Marika just like Guts slaughtered so many to raise Griffith to his god status and being on the golden age. Wow. And Renalla is almost like Casca in how she was left completely broken shell of her former self. Cant help but wonder now if there was a connection between Godfrey and Rennala.
@lukemorman93
@lukemorman93 Месяц назад
This also begs the question, who TF is radagon based on? Could he also be based on Griffith since him and Marika are the same? I personally am not deep into berserk lore and need to get caught up on it, but seeing all these connections definitely piques my interest about the parallels between each world. Makes it seem like you gotta know about berserk to be able to answer some of the more mysterious questions about the in-game lore or at least get closer to the answer.
@ishi...
@ishi... Месяц назад
the shot of marika holding the golden stands might be cut short and she is tearing them apart
@bowzur
@bowzur Месяц назад
great video
@js90001
@js90001 Месяц назад
The being at the beginning of the trailer could be what goes on to become the Elden Beast. I think the weak spot on the belly of the Elden Beast is where the golden strands were removed from it at the start of the trailer.
@lloydfrazier3682
@lloydfrazier3682 Месяц назад
In SPIRE... like. In SPIRIT... something that's inspired by another thing has an element of its SPIRIT in it
@jasN86
@jasN86 Месяц назад
Wait, haven't people been connecting the two characters (Marika and Griffith) since the beginning of Elden Ring's launch? That withstanding, great video. Can't wait for this DLC!
@G4meplus
@G4meplus Месяц назад
It was Miquella and Griffith, Glad you enjoyed the video ❤️
@murderycatdoll1380
@murderycatdoll1380 Месяц назад
For someone that sadly has not Seen or ready Berserk, where would i Start? Is there an Anime or something that i should start with? i am so fascinated by it. Even If i am a Bit sad that Myazaki isa Bit inspired toooo much and mit as creative as i thought 😅
@jos3ph.d
@jos3ph.d Месяц назад
Nice vid
@dorum358
@dorum358 Месяц назад
You’re the first person I’ve seen to make the connection between Messmer the Impaler and Vlad the Impaler. I think they definitely were inspired when they created Messmer, that imagery with the impaled corpses is very similar to what is shown in history books about Vlad’s atrocities. Also Fromsoftware is known to have taken inspiration in the past from Dracula, which was itself inspired by Vlad the Impaler.
@jimystimz4731
@jimystimz4731 Месяц назад
An amazing story with even more incredible inspirations. How will FromSoft ever be able to out do this game?
@ammaralmihyawi3538
@ammaralmihyawi3538 Месяц назад
I believe Messmer is the son of the GEQueen bc the Statue behind him reminds me of the item description that the GEQ swaddles the newborn apostels
@majesticderp
@majesticderp Месяц назад
Is it just me, or does the "spiral spike" inside the shadow tree at 13:55 look a lot like the spiral spike the kneeling woman is holding during Messmer's siege?
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