Decks We've Been Too Scared to Play | Commander Clash S16 E12 

the riskiest part of richards deck is the community backlash

I agree with banning Field of the Dead for at least one season

The power level difference between the decks was way too big this game. Richard with field of the dead, smothering tithe, open the way, urza saga, burgeoning, nowhere near janky mono white cycling with 10 cent cards

I agree with Crim, you should ban Field of the Dead. Its too ubiquitous

Hmn... from Richard's deck, I think I finally understand the Commander format! Play a commander that draws cards, and draw into all of the game's various design mistakes!

Richard is hardcore abusing lands this season due to the social ban on LD. He always has glacial chasm, maze of ith, field of the dead, vesuva and thespian stage and we see him play those every game. I think they should start playing nonbasic hate like Ruination or Back to Basics, the usual argument of "people don't get to play EDH often, so you shouldn't mess with their resources" really doesn't apply to people that play hundreds of games like the goldfish crew and it would lead to other deckbuilding choices, when they have to run more basics

It's always fun to see the cards that got added after theorycrafting in the commander podcast the same week.

Phil dying because he just had to get rid of astral drift for some reason is peak.

Seths deck the type of jank unique spice im looking for on commander clash. Easy to make its less than $400 by cutting the cards above $20 that can be replaced for budget players too. Tutors, akromas, and the token doublers are easy $150 of the budget

I think you should run cards like Ruination and Back to Basics to punish greedy lands decks.

Blood Sun would be the perfect counter to Richard's land shenanigans

I feel like Richard didn't get the memo about the theme this week. Crim was doing sacrifice stuff, Seth was doing super janky cycling, Phil was doing goad shenanigans, meanwhile Richard was just playing regular old voltron. Not even voltron with some unique twist, it's literally just all the generic voltron stuff in his colors. It's like having an alt wincon week where one player shows up and says "My alternate wincon is combat damage"

While I know there's limitations because of them not playing in person, but I really do think some of the issues others are seeing (like the nuisance that is FotD, which really should be banned from the format in general because of it being pretty much a card that can be shoved into 90% of commander decks, regardless of whether it fits the theme) could be avoided at least on occasion by something I love when TCC does, which is everyone building decks for everyone else. I find it as a reliable way to force people to play something different from what they're used to playing and not just fall back on the same cards in every deck or the same colors in each one (like the Prof making Crim a green storm deck).

My buddy has a Sargent John deck and it's genuinely the scariest deck in our pod IMO.

With all this drawing Crim really needs to crack out his Notion Thief.

Who knew Sergeant John was a Zombie commander

I am a little tired of seeing field of the dead, too.

I just casually watch Commander Clash, but it feels like every deck Richard plays with is centrally the same with random cards around it that minorly contribute to whatever theme he is pretending to follow.

I thought we were gonna get some jank this week. But no its just field of the dead week again

Benton is risky? Every time I have seen it in a game it dominates.

Fully agree, please ban field of the dead.

Field of the dead is so boring to see each and every time

Please can someone play ruination these greedy manabases are so boring

Editor, can we please get a video of every "clash on" from Crim as isolated audio?

i really miss the old videos when commander matches used to last several hours, i really liked the gradual gameplay. right now the games seem getting closer and closer to yuugioh where everyone just wins by vomiting everything they have access to to win as fast as possible.

Yeah Richards deck looks cool but its on a different power level. Also no more field of the dead or glacial chasm

Where is Tomer with Ruination when we need him

Phil’s accent hits peak-German with the r in “Kros”

Just from the intro, I'm already really looking forward to this episode, lol. So much potential for stuff to backfire

Fun game! John Benton is a lot scarier than it looks. Also, this camera-based format is WAY better than looking at MTGO, now I'm going to be able to watch you guys play in addition to listening to the podcast :) Really appreciate the good editing too, keeping it short. Top work

every week, Richard tries his best to prove why land destruction is actually good and why more of it should be printed

Flowering of the white tree should have been in exile.

love the upside-down corgi at the end.

Sgt.John Benton is cracked. I play him for a $75 budget night I have with my friends. ($25 of the budget is Smothering Tithe, lol.) He is crazy fun with all the protection and buff spells you draw and can play since they are all 1-2 cmc. It's okay to make others draw because they aren't gonna be playing 2-3x5-6cmc spells with 4 mana early on. Cmd dmg is real. I also have a Kros deck, but haven't built it in paper yet because I am not sure whether it can hang at tables I usually play at, though he for sure is a great goad/control/counters commander!

please ban field of the dead. it's so boring to see it literally every week in at least two different decks.

I would have really loved to see Keldon Firebomber go off. Such a sweet card from ye olden days when Land Destruction wasn't a boogeyman that made EDH players cry.

Wow, so moved by Phil playing Kros. It was the first Commander I built, and it is so much fun. I thought I was the only one playing it.

seth thinking that phil could win with 9 mana is cute almost like he doesn't remember that phil doesn't play any win cons in his deck

Once again, I’m asking for the stats episode 😢

“We came here to play magic so let’s do it” YES SETH GO OFF KING LMAO

So 3 of y'all played jank weird wincons and Richard played card draw lmao

Should’ve saved this spooky episode for Halloween

I saw a cool John Benton list on Twitter, but it had a ton of free spells. I took most of them out even though they were very good in the deck. I kept 3 total "free" spells, and the deck is still very good.

Richard had such good sportsmanship this game. He reminded Phil that he had priority and deployed his response first despite Phil seeming to indicate he would have a response that would let Richard get away with not having to use the resource. And he said "everything" on Farewell and stuck to it despite it possibly benefitting him far more to take it back. Kudos to you Richard!

Crim is right. Field is butts.

In my Yes-Man deck, I make everyone agree to a licensing agreement that stipulates they must activate Yes-Man targeting the next player or me, conditional on the target accepting the license agreement. My pod loves it.

I promise you, always cast keldon firebombers

Didn't finish the episode. Field of the dead is boring. There are so many interesting cards in commander. Play those, please. These generic high power cards and strategies overshadow the more interesting deck concepts.

33:38 For anyone else wondering, what Crim was saying: Crim called out his face down card to not get a "GRV" or games rules violation, which would lead to a disqualification in a tournament setting. You are required to reveal face down cards, to prove it was a legal play.

Field of the Dead should be banned in the entire format, not just Commander Clash. That card alone would be enough for me to jam Armageddon at casual tables; thankfully I don't see it much.

I love John Benton 😊 I have that Deck too and it is a lot of fun ❤

The game was already decided by turn 6 at 13:36. Richard bringing a deck that is clearly way too powerful makes for poor content…otherwise you guys are great! Keep it up!

I miss the post game deck recaps, those gone for good?

Seth saying he can’t use his one drops ability when Richard has 2 lands to Seth’s one is crazy.

This was quite possibly the best example of commander power-creep literally just Richard jamming the best best spells in his deck and winning like Seth’s deck is so unique and interesting but instead we just got value piles dot deck so disappointing used to love these videos now o dread watching them for these exact reasons

I miss Tomer. Can we sub him in for Richard?

I would also like to add my own support for banning Field of the Dead. The gameplay pattern is the exact same for any deck that runs it. It's kind of boring to see you guys race it out as quickly as possible and then copy it with Vesuva and Thespian's Stage every week

Here's a dumb question, how do we submit decks for the crew to play? I have one I think Richard would get a kick out of.

Clash on!

Phil not Mana Draining the protection spell from the Voltron deck? Intriguing.

Kros has been my signature deck since he came out. He’s a trash card with such a cool deck building challenge. Easy to get second, very fun puzzle in 1v1

as someone who also plays Sgt. John Benson, my brew of it is different. instead of aura and equip, i use instant speed bump spells. makes it more nerve-racking for other players since they don't know how much he'll hit for. however i also don't have a field of the dead so i at least people can't get mad at me for that aspect

There is a reason Ancestral Recall is banned in Commander and Sgt John Benton turns every pump spell to be card draw on the cheap.

Got em 🎉🎉

Would have loved to see rakdos .... And seths deck looked interesting aswell 😗

What was risky about any of that?

This is absolutely out of context, but you four and Tomer know so much about magic that I think you could make a cool video series where one of you makes a quizz about magic (like name a card and can that person say what color it is, what it does etc. Or maybe trivia stuff about a certain set etc) and the others have to answer individually. I'm mostly stealing this format from TSN Bardown quizz, but I still think it would be a really good idea.

Everyone always plays Open the Way X=3, you guys know that there's 4 players, right? It's not opponents

Richard got back Flowering of the White Tree from exile with Hall of Heliod's Generosity.... not a legal play

Crim playing rakdos feels right ✅️

CLASH ON!

Did Richard forget to pay 10 life when he reequipped the Hand of Vecna?

Awesome

Why didnt maybem devil die to toxic deluge? Shield counter shouldnt defend against -/- right?

Benton dominates games. Card doesn’t get the love it should. People beg to get hit for two but then they figure out it’s a monster.

Do you all just have these cards lying aroung that you can actually have Yes-Man and Public Enemy on your own boards? Or do you proxy them beforehand?

Yay clash!

Before even watching the game: I think it's hilarious that there are three group-hug/politics decks and then Crim's self-harm deck which is like the total opposite. XD

Honestly, ban Field of the Dead. It's Richard's finisher in every deck, literally every deck

I do agree with banning field of the dead. I don't know it's not strong but seeing it and those zombie tokens basically every game is kind of tiring imo.

Turning this one off half way through, it was abundantly clear where the game was going.

Covoted jewel did trigger before he died! It triggers BEFORE damage!

I've watched enough of doctor who classic to enjoy seeing sergeant John Benton in this game. Dude is literally just a sergeant.

Does Seth have a voice filter? 😂

richards deck went off and was fun too see with everyone else throwing punches. It looked like Phil really had something going there and you boys all fought hard until the end! gfg

Please ban field of the dead, its miserable.

Richard's deck was fine until he started cracking the staples. That commander reminds me (in terms of deckbuilding) like Feather, in which it's cool when it's running the Thing It Does (cast cheap spells to protect and pump it and get value into a commander damage win), but stacking on the staple power cards felt....excessive? Field of the Dead turns into a clown fiesta once cloning lands and turboramp become available. That said, a lot of running away with the game came from poor threat assessment. "Oh, the rakdos deck is scary it could make me sacrifice things" meanwhile Richard voltrons up and hits you and makes you die. Phil killed the only way he could be kept in the game, and Seth's main advantage engine, for no real advantage against the player who RAPIDLY took over the game once the Seth and Phil's established boards got nuked.

Field of the Dead needs a Commander ban for the same reason as that Companion that requires you play Singleton

Never played a single game of commander. But Richard seems incredibly manipulative.

You guys need to embrace the land hate. Make them have artifacts, mana, dorks, rituals, WHATEVER it takes to make mana, but lands are also on the menu.

Asking again for a season where each card can only be used once each season! (Aside from basic lands) I think it would make for way more dynamic decks and less need to ban things because it would only ever be present once, so if someone *really* wanted a Sol Ring or Field of the Dead they would have to debate if the deck they're playing is worth it to never use those cards again for the rest of the season.

Crim looking like blonde kid from code lyoko with that hair point swoop

What if i draw u 30 cards seth 😂

Play more mass land destruction please

Time to ban Field, it makes uninteresting games

Hoping to see jank pop off and not be another 4 way control mirror.

I say ban field of the dead in decks that dont have synergies with it aka a token deck, zombies, or landfall and maybe in control decks. Everything else no just so we dont see it played in every deck played.

I wish Kros wasn't some weird cat person. I'd def make a Kros deck if it was a human

There are 1000s of cards in this game and we continue to feature Field of the Dead, Maze of Ith, and Glacial Chasm supported by non-basic land tutors. 🙄

I'm not sure it would have mattered because I havent finished the video, but that Vecna equip at 26:58 should have cost like 11 life Edit: turns out I'm just wrong lol