Based solely on demos, I didn't get why the Volante is special. Thanks for explaining, and demonstrating it with no repeats. I still have my 1980s ADA single space rack mount digital delay. It's not practical to gig with it, and it really is sterile sounding. Time to find a pedal with tap tempo and subdivisions. I recently bought the LR Baggs Align Delay and love it for my acoustics.
Jon Newquist Buy whatever pedal sounds great. And works for you. And if it doesn’t have tap tempo on board then you can get something like the disaster area design Smartclock and that gives you digital display for tempo and all the subdivisions. Edit: the pedal just needs external tap tempo input.
*gamers:* cry when they need to sell their videocard and buy a new ≈500$ one once in a couple of years. *musicians:* smoke a cigarette with a shaking hand when couple of great ≈300-400$ pedals were released this season.
@@chrisnagy1429 To get tech-nerdy for a second: A bucket brigade chip is an analog charge coupler which has thousands of stages of capacitors. Each time the signal is sampled it loses bandwidth & volume and becomes more compressed and saturated. Kind of like tape, but in a more crumbly way with high end aliasing (since the signal is sampled and not analog in the time dimension). Whether this a good thing or not depends on if you like the sound. When digital delays first came out people were glad to get rid of the noisy, limited bucket brigade ones, but soon missed their character and idiosyncracies.
@@hoover728 Thanks for the reply. Could you explain aliasing, please or send me somewhere to learn some of this stuff? I appreciate your time and I hope I'm not delaying anything you might be doing.
@@chrisnagy1429 Aliasing is basically artifacts caused by sample errors. A common example is in video when you have like a 240P file and you can see the square edges. The sampling rate isn't high enough to capture all the information so there are gaps. This is a really good source: www.premierguitar.com/articles/25035-behind-the-bucket-brigade
Same, I've been appropriating his arrangement of "Straight To Hell" from the demo he did on the MXR Echoplex. It's not plagiarism. It's...umm...acceptable appropriation.
I'm pretty happy with my flashback x4 and Boss DD-3 but I do have a little obsession with delay and fuzz pedals soooo yeah, the more the merrier, as they say.
I’m so grateful for this dude. He demos the hell out of things really showing the full range of the pedal while playing a bunch of different types of guitar to really show how it would sound with different ways of playing. Haven’t even watched this demo yet but I’m stoked
I'm a fan of having 1 "normal-ish" style delay and verb, like a Dispatch Master, then get real creative with the rest so you can always stack something fun in with it. Currently, OBNE Black Fountain > Diispatch Master > OBNE Procession
start with budget, then know the style of music you play to compliment the tone (digital, analog, tape, or a swiss army knife), and find out how much functionality you want because you don't want to struggle on stage with not knowing what you're doing (tap tempo, expression capabilities, midi, amount of knobs to mess with, etc.)
I always forget you're not using a pick, and I want to come and say "It looks hard to hold a pick like that," and then it turns out you're not holding one. God I love that Volante!
I love that you played Straight to Hell for the opener.... Excellent!!! I saw the Clash about a dozen times in New York City back in the early 80's. Yes, a bunch of those were the infamous Bonds shows. You nailed it brotha. : )
That TC Alter Ego X4 - Always Impresses me. It really covers many delay needs. I am not surprised, - as Andy had-a-hand - in the Sound Creation for that pedal @ PGS.
My girlfriend bought me a DD-5 I've been using for almost 20 years, run it in stereo through two 15 watt amps, a Peavey and a Yamaha. I absolutely love it!
The Deluxe Memory Man for the clean, only in a serial FX loop. Try the Boss DM2 Waza Craft if you are a shredder. Steve Vai use the DD7, but you can get is tone easier with the DM2. This one need a parallel FX loop.
I hear they're great. Don't think you'd need anything else, but the Way Huge Aqua Puss is great for no-nonsense analog tone. I'd try one out, just for the sake of comparison. See why 300ms is more than enough for so many players out their. I made the mistake of trading it for the Empress, big mistake. Now, I'm delay-less. :)
I love the flexibility of the Flashback II and never thought I’d take it off my board - but then, two months back, I swapped it out for the Foxgear Echosex Baby, just to see what that drum echo sound could do for my tone, and somehow I haven’t got around to swapping it back. If I want them both available, seems like I’m gonna need a bigger board!
David RF: I traded my Flashback away and bought an MXR delay and have regretted it ever since..... I often wish that I still had my 80's boss delay as well.
I will always love my Alter Ego, so much great functionality in a small space. Other than that, my favorites will always be the Memory Boy and Memory Boy Deluxe (tap tempo) as well as the Catalinbread Echorec, or anything based on the Benson for that matter.
I haven't owned too many delay pedals but my two favorites are EQD Avalanche run (for the clean pristine delays) and the disaster transport SR (for the lo-fi tape style sounds). The former is so underrated in my opinion. You can get lost for days with all the sounds and things you can do with it.
Analog - warm sound, less percussive (kills the attack sound along the repetitions) which makes it more ambience-ish. Some accidental effects (it overloads by retroalimentation of the repeats). From 300ms to 800ms maximum delay time, in most of units. Less mA consumed. Digital - pristine perfect repetitions, from 100ms to a lot of seconds delay time. Percussive (it maintains the attack sound). More mA consumed (because of the digital factor). The digital technology is able to emulate the tone of analog bbd delays and tape delay units. And much more. But the bbd emulation will never sound perfectly accurate as the real thing. Hope I helped a little.
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DD-3 is darker than most digital delays and it allows it to sit much better in the mix. Absolute classic. Perfect in a Marshall effects loop with some gain! Very affordable and they are still made.
I got a TC Echobrain analog delay for $40. Maybe I’m crazy but, I ditched my more expensive delay pedal. Of course, I still want a digital delay for some things. (It’s only addiction if it’s affecting other aspects of your life in a negative way. 🤣)
A fantastic beginner's delay (and one that's cheap and easy to find on Reverb) is the MXR Carbon Copy. You can learn more and check out the price guide here: reverb.com/p/mxr-m169-carbon-copy-analog-delay
A great and amazing delay pedal that is pretty unknown is the Malekko Ekko 616 delay, absolutely beautiful delay with optional modulation as well as selectable true or buffered bypass
I use flashbackx4 and boss dd3 both on my board .I like the flashback for easy flexibility if having 3 different delays on call with tap tempo function ..and the dd3 I use to stack on the flashbackx4 for longer synth or cello ..violin faking I do in some songs .of course the dd3 is great to .
Recently went a little old school to the boss giga-delay and the twist and warp modes on that pedal are really clever and can be used for a lot of neat things!
The main distinction is whether the wet signal is produced in an analog or digital way. In that regard a BBD delay (such as the Supro shown here), a magnetic disc one (a Binson Echorec or other similar ones of that era), a tape one (Echoplex, Roland Space Echo etc) and an oil can one (such as a Tel'Ray) are all analog - and not just a BBD delay as branded back in the 80s. So the fact that a BBD delay is indeed analog but not all analog ones have BBD chips is not really clarified here. Digital ones can either give a pristine recreation of what you're playing (like the DD3 shown here) or give you emulations of all of the famous analog vintage delays and echoes, plus all the mentioned bells and whistles such as tap tempo, presets, firmware updates, pitch shifting etc. The distinction is a bit blurred (but still valid) in two cases: a) when you have analog delays but with full digital control of time, tap tempo etc. such as in the case of the Deluxe Memory Man w/tap tempo, and b) when you have delays with digital chips such as the PT2399 but made in a very lo-fi way with lots of interaction between it and a nice preamp preceding it, such as in the Catalinbread delays.
If you don't need tap tempo, just get a carbon copy. But then, I mostly go for a slapback kinda thing, not the more ambient stuff. And if you don't have an unlimited budget (i.e., me), stop watching Strymon demos. Man, they make GREAT stuff.
They all have their own thing, Love my 2 x DM-2W setup at the mo.. I occasionally use a DD-3 on the side with a DM-3 which is equally awesome ... Hoping for a DD-2 Wazacraft soon! The Boonar is on my list and a Catlinbread "Belly-Pork" Deluxe .... Will have to work harder or sell a kid....
Hi, Andy. Man, we love you. Didn't you help design the TC Alter Ego 2 or am I dreaming? I love that pedal and I am pretty sure you had a hand or at least fingers in that pie. Let me know, your fans are ego for a response.
Chris Nagy Hi, it was definitely a collaboration between PGS and TC. I spent time matching the original delays as close as the software would allow on the Alter Ego 2 and X4, even bringing my own Echoplex as a specimen. Lots of fun!
@@AndyDemos Thanks, Andy.Some of my favorites on the 2 are that oil can so weird but fun and plus the ckat, ep1, wow tons of stuff. Thanks, Andy. You are an inspiration.
It's a very good digital delay. But no. I have this delay and I don't use it because I found better. Bucket brigade delays sound better. And if you compare with digital, I prefer the Eventide Time Factor. Depends the amp you play too.
Have you tried the smaller Alter Ego? I'm pretty sure Andy helped design that one and it is really cool. I don't think he's allowed to promote it because of conflict of interest issues.
I've played something like 100 different delays. The minimum do the maximum : bucket brigade rules, full analog forever. One delay in one amp, nothing in the second amp. Wet/Dry. Easy to control, awesome sound. Best for high gain shred : - Boss DM-2 Waza Craft if your amp has a parallel FX loop. - Seymour Duncan Vapor Trail for long delay. Better in a parallel FX loop. You can insert another FX pedal, a phaser for example. - Way Huge Echo Puss for short delay. This one works with all amps on earth. It's fat and dark. A kind of super MXR Carbon Copy at the top. Best for clean : - Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man if your amp has a serial FX loop. Every guitar player should have played this classic one time in a life. Best for crunch : - Jam Pedal Llama+ if the FX loop of your amp is serial. The Pink Floyd sound. Best for ALL : - JHS PantherCub. The big box 1.5 for serial loop. This one has the insert for other FX. The small box v2.0 works with serial and parallel. Works with any amps on earth. This is THE masterpiece. If you prefer stereo digital, the best sounding delay is the Eventide TimeFactor. Much more complicated, but best sound in the digital world. Really much better than TC Electronic. I prefer TC for reverb.
My favorite delays that I own 1.Boss Space Echo 2. Ibanez DE7 3. Catlinbread Echo Rec 4. Boss DD3 I owned the Alter Ego x4 but don’t use it as much as I thought I would , I actually liked the compact Alter Ego v1 that I traded it in for better
Have small Alter Ego, Flashback X4( that I don’t use much anymore) and I’m looking to get Catalinbread EchoRec. Have been on the fence for a Way Huge Echo Puss, just haven’t yanked the trigger yet.
The Way Huge Echo Puss works with everything. Gotta have one! Doesn't matter if the loop is parallel or serial, doesn't matter if you play clean crunch of high gain. It's just a swiss knife with a fat and dark tone. There is a usefull tone knob on. It's better than the Carbon Copy. But : it's a short delay only. If you play the Seymour Vapor Trail for solos (max 900ms) you have anything you need. The Way Huge Supa Puss for longer dealy has much more controls but it doesn't sound so fat and dark. The Echo Puss sounds better. I use the Echo Puss with the 2 channels Dual Rectifier (parallel FX), the mutliwatts 3 channels Dual Rectifier (serial FX loop), Bogner XTC, Friedman BE100, Soldano SLO 100, Mesa Mark IIC+, Diezel VH4 etc. Every guitar player should have an Echo Puss in is bag. Forget about your TC, they are gadgets. I owe these delays, and I don't use them because they don't have the big bad tone. TC is at the top for reverb. The Hall Of Fame is great. Peoples think TC rules about delays because they made a classic : the 2290. A very good kind of delay. But not the best delay ever.
20 stupid people searching for porn videos in RU-vid accidentally stumbled upon this video and disliked it. Anyhow, the content covered pretty-much everything I need to know about purchasing new pedal, and how and where you should put it in your rig.. Very informative.
I have a tc x4 to use for practice or just playing around and I am quiet impressed with it. I’m stubborn though and cling to my rack gear. I’ve got a Lexicon pcm 81and a pcm 42 and I haven’t found anything I like as much to make me consider replacing them. I have a TC 2290 somewhere but it’s not working but going off my feeble memory, the Flasback’s 2290 is pretty close considering the price difference.
EHX canyon into BossDD3 from then on stereo into Strymon Blue Sky Reverb into EQD Avalanche Run into TC Flashback. It's absolute ambient bliss. Not that I have all 4 delays on all the time,but the possibillity's are immense. It's not possible annymore to play for half an hour. If the pedals come in,it'll take a few hours. And don't underestimate the EHC cannyon you have to get used to the secondary tweaking knobs on the mono version, but it can do a great shimmer without over the top organ high tones & the 1,2,3 octave up is stunning crumbling through other delays. RIP Dick Dale
I have 2 current delays - a short digital slap back (Boss PS2) and the Quiet Theory Prelude for momentary vast echoing feedback caverns... I want to get a third that has tap tempo for the old dotted eighths but so far can't decide. Probably the ARP-87 but I find its modulations pointless.
I love the MXR Carbon Copy Bright. Most people hate a bright, high-treble tone but I personally love it. Always love how a Wah pedal boosted the treble when you depressed it especially for a big bend. I got that trick from Hendrix.
I'm just using a cheap Prophet delay from TC Electronics right now, but I am drawn to both the DD series from Boss and the Canyon delay from ElectroHarmonix. Kinda leaning towards the Canyon because I like my Ocean's 11 reverb a bit better than my Boss Flanger, although both are cool pedals with lots of variety.
Great show as always, Andy. Delays are a big problem for me. I've had dozens and unfortunately, I let a few of my faves go like the Holy Grail, Keeley's Mag Echo, and Wampler's Faux Analog Echo and Faux Tape Echo. Right now I have a couple of Diamond Pedals, the Counterpoint, and the Quantum Leap. Those are really cool and I found them for about $100. Diamond, I think is an underrated company. Also, I have the Echo-Puss for pretty standard analog plus modulation and the Csidman which is neat add glitches and some roaring amp-like feedback. But I am still not satisfied. Still looking for that perfect delay, alas.
Great vid but I'm disappointed you didn't do a segment on hold functions. A hold function like in the Boss DD-3 or DD-6 is the most important feature I look for in any delay. Anybody know of other pedals that can replicate the variable sample rate hold function on a DD-6 in particular? Can the Red Panda Particle do that maybe?
It was Andy who really sold me on the TC Electronic Alter Ego X4 back in his PDX days. I'm pretty sure he helped develop that beauty! Sounds great with my synth collection and the 4 toneprint slots are a valuable asset. For a more simple and perhaps hands-on vibe machine, I also love my Digitech Obscura Altered delay. Its tape and analogue emulations are bang-on, not to mention the convenience of tone control and a 'degrade' knob, which essentially is a mod depth control. Digital delays are all cold no more!
