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My game is way too over scoped to ever be finished. In order to make my dream game achievable I need to start cutting things and start focusing on just the key aspects of my game.
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@mintyunbox5307 2 месяца назад

Dont feel bad about it being 2 years,2 years of experience gained, I look forward to the finish product.

@Vylca 2 месяца назад

I'm not sure if you're dropping the exploration element entirely or not but If so I'd like to make a case for keeping it : The idea of having to step away from your base to explore and gather resources in order to prepare for the next wave of enemies breaks the rules of tower defence games ( it usually boils down to just put your things in the right spot, sit back and relax), and in my opinion that's your greatest asset. Having to venture off into the world with a time limit and a list of things you need to gather is a great and engaging idea, I think it'll make the tower defence section more rewarding and, more importantly, make your game more unique. My philosophy for game design is to always look for nice risk-reward scenarios, and with the exploration you get a great risk-reward right out of the gate : "Do I spend more time organising my defences with the resources I have or do I venture out into the wilderness to bolster my defences at the risk of dying/losing too much time ?" Right now I think focusing on the tower defence aspect is the right move but I hope you consider going back to exploration later on.

@RonuPlays 2 месяца назад

I agree. Figuring out the tower defense gameplay loop is great for now, but once things start taking shape I hope the unique exploration aspect makes a return.

@overphildev 2 месяца назад

You make a really good point, I feel like once I get the base defense part figured out I can start trying to implement that again. Just want to focus on one thing at a time for now

@grenvallion 20 часов назад

his issue is that doing it alone is just so much work and exploration requires a massive amount of work to add things to that it's an obvious candidate to scrap as it will save a massive amount of time and work. Which can then be put towards core features. he's not scrapping it because he wants too. he's doing it because it's too much to do alone.

@wererat2000 2 месяца назад

Ducttape a magnet to the weather vane to explain why it's pointing at the robots.

@overphildev 2 месяца назад

genius

@cameron2634 9 дней назад

Yessss cut cut cut! Find the core game loop that is the most fun, refine it to be awesome, then add other things back in. I'm a pretty new indie dev myself, but I find it SUPER helpful to over-craft my core game then expand into other things. For instance, I love simplifying the reload to just a button. This creates an opportunity to gamify that mechanic rather than turning it into a menu chore. Imagine if every defensive structure had some visual way of telegraphing what you could do it assist it, like if it's smoking you hit it with a hammer to repair it, or flashing red it's getting hot and needs water from a bucket, or a big bullet with an X could pop up over it when it's low on ammo and you equip the bandoleer to reload. Then you can expand this to be more situational, maybe you can swap ammo types to combat different enemies or look at where there are dull moments, and ask yourself what is the most fun way to spend the in-between rounds: Rebuilding? Crafting new stuff? Gathering from the enemy wreckage or surrounding forests? All valid ways to spend time, but what is the most fun.

@bucurmihai2008 2 месяца назад

I laughed seeing the house flying away :)))

@RonuPlays 2 месяца назад

The game is really taking shape now, looking forward to seeing how it develops!

@yanisb.2393 2 месяца назад

It doesn't matter if your game is too complicated and have a large scope with "Too many features" the best approach is to make a vertical slice as quickly as possible with only the main features to have a working game, and from that point you add features little by little but what you need is to always have a working game loop (start -> win/lose -> restart)

@overphildev 2 месяца назад

Very true I just also want to finish it one day so adding everything I think of would prevent that. Had to draw the line somewhere. But getting a game loop is huge

@yanisb.2393 2 месяца назад

@@overphildev The good thing with always having a playable game is that you can launch it even if it's 20% done and so get players' point of view and adapt accordingly. Good luck for the next steps, it's always nice to watch your videos :)

@imbnq 2 месяца назад

holy, a new upload! i really want to see this game finished one day.

@heyitstor9930 Месяц назад

If you’re still reading comments on this video or are still open to making more changes later on to kind of help a survival/exploration aspect of the game you could make a system that gives you time to explore but also still challenges you. Morning: You have some free time, you could have a system where there’s apples or maybe rabbits that you can catch (perhaps a long distance weapon to make catching rabbits easier) that you can give to the boy for extra rewards. Noon: collect/building time! But also the option to take quests from the boy, he wants some flowers…rocks…or the like, and if you do enough like 5 quests you get access to new upgrades the boy can offer. Dusk: Lock in and prepare. Bedtime: The boy is asleep, but the forest is not, try your best to defend the house until morning! Maybe even have a small little animation that when the wave is over the robot connects a charger cord in the back of the house to himself and falls asleep.

@ShadowOverflow 2 месяца назад

Very proud of you for realizing you overscoped. ✊ A small refined game is significantly better than an unpolished big game that will never released. Good luck!

@joaky1989 2 месяца назад

Breaking the developement in phases is a smart call, it's great to have seen the evolution process from the start. Keep it up!

@LitAngelo 2 месяца назад

These are some of the best changes I've seen so far for your game! Seeing the core loop gives so much insight for the project's direction.

@overphildev 2 месяца назад

Thanks, I feel like I've just been building the foundation for so long and now I can finally start seeing progress

@LitAngelo 2 месяца назад

@@overphildev Great foundation. I love base defense games! Praying to see your project succeed bro.

@TheWaffleManiac07 2 месяца назад

1:10 yeah the ESSENTIALS

@jamienorman7940 2 месяца назад

i really like the pointing rooster idea

@grenvallion 19 часов назад

as for knowing where the enemies are. The weathervane idea is cool but impactical. A simple Red arrow above each enemies head pointing down toward the enmies head would work much better imo. To make reloading turrets more dangerous. You could add a reload timer, where it takes maybe 6 seconds to reload the turret with you stuck in place while you reload it. This reload timer or reload speed could be increased on new bigger, stronger turrets if you wanted to add new variants later. Such as a missile turret might take 10 seconds or more to reload but would deal damage in an aoe instead. Making it useful for grouped up enemies but also more risky to reload as it takes longer and makes you vulnerable while you cant move for longer.

@oren6578 2 месяца назад

relax man, i have a survival game, I had to redo, it's kind of sad but the experience we gain in the sketch is insane, I managed to redo a 5 month project in 3 hours and considering everything I've progressed. now the game It's improved and i cleaned up the code of the project a lot, if we don't do this it will become increasingly difficult to evolve the project, try this and I guarantee you will see the difference in both your skill and in the game!

@taizeen1805 2 месяца назад

Yeah, if you want to finish a game the best thing to do would be get the absolutely essential stuff you need to play/win the game, then add more afterwards

@Lucas_rosen07 2 месяца назад

Now we’re cooking

@okee 2 месяца назад

Fix the lighting and your game will look 1000 times more appealing

@Pizza-xi3fs 2 месяца назад

Fax, needs color correction

@overphildev 2 месяца назад

What do you recommend would help

@okee 2 месяца назад

@@overphildev It seems like you are using the default render pipeline. Convert to URP. There are plenty of videos explaining how to make your game look much better by just fixing the lighting with post processing.

@kabinet0 2 месяца назад

@@overphildev The other answer to this question is misleading. Lighting and post processing are separate topics. You can't fix one with the other, and you are already using URP. (which aside from light falloff being exponential is remarkably similar to Built In out of the box) I'd attribute a lot of the look to the assets used and by extension lack of clear art direction. Figuring out a style, both for models and textures, is the best way to improve the look of the game. (For example the semi realistic skybox clashes with most of the cartoony assets) Having a bit more liveliness would also help considering it's a forested environment. (think sway in the leaves, moving clouds & the like) The materials on a lot of the assets are also textureless and extremely plastic-y, this boils down to using more coherent assets. (and maybe lower smoothness overall :P) As for lighting, best I can recommend is to do something about the flatness of it all. Baking some ambient occlusion into the tree assets in authoring (leaves specifically), and getting nicer ambient lighting would go a long way. Figuring out anything more complex like GI would be way out of scope and particularly difficult since the game is procedural. Post processing can help but it won't fix any of the other more fundamental problems I've mentioned. Tonemapping is important to the look of a game, and frankly the default Neutral tonemapping in URP seems to be doing it's job and avoiding particularly blown out highlights. I wouldn't do anything aside from some light color correction to fit a desired mood honestly. TLDR there is no "make game look good" button or tutorial, it boils down to having strong art direction, and an understanding of how to achieve whatever effects your artstyle demands.

@hadiramin.k500 2 месяца назад

Game looks good man. Appreciate your effort

@spongecake1698 2 месяца назад

Did we just get a face reveal? Also, great work with the focus on a functional game loop you'll make real progress with this frame work

@arctiformgames 2 месяца назад

Yea i spent 2.5 years trying to make a souls game and came to a point where i realized i needed to restart or change projects. I think its a good idea to get something small completed and go through the whole release process first.

@user-ty6wp3cq7t 2 месяца назад

Just pray to not accidentally delete the back up

@Erynash 13 дней назад

Who knew removing parts of the game would get it closer to completion. Good progress.

@AA-cz3cw 2 месяца назад

Now that's a game I am interested in

@kolby4537 2 месяца назад

Keep grinding, there's always an option of just focusing on the survival game as perfect as you can and then add future updates with better building and stuff. Either way very inspiring!

@kolby4537 2 месяца назад

Woopsie just finished the video and this is essentially what you did, great job compartmentalizing!

@tomkc516 2 месяца назад

Sometimes you just gotta burn it all to the ground so something new and much better can grow and thrive in its place.

@SharyGameDev 2 месяца назад

Please consider my idea: Make a fog around the map, (like darkness or something) if player go there then losing or something. Out of this darkness enemy robots are coming. Then instead of having a shop open every round - make it dynamic by bringing apples or something to the house to activate the shop. (Apples are spawning on the map). That means the player can have more interaction, not only load an ammo to the turret and wait. Also he is taking a risk. For example enemies can have bigger damage when far from the base, or near the apples. 😊 (This is just a scratch idea so change it to your needs) 😊

@urnoob5528 2 месяца назад

base defense survival farming ah yes i have played somewhat of a similar game before let me tell u u dont wanna go that route because that shit is hard to balance the game mentioned is citywars tower defense(free on steam), there is literally so many things to do, u gotta do tower defense, collect resources, build up a farm, to get stuff to upgrade ur towers, and u can for whatever reason fight with weapons and also die the whole thing is executed badly, and a year later the devs still continue to add new unnecessary stuff(cosmetics, new areas and towers) instead of rectifying the fundamental flaws and perfecting the concept, i LITERALLY didnt see a single change in the fundamental gameplay when i went back to check it out after a year, which was absurd, pretty much a dead game at some point there really is too much thing to do

@overphildev 2 месяца назад

Ill have to check it out. but yeah I could see my game turning into that, that's why I decided to simplify.

@user-zp8tz8hs2h 2 месяца назад

I think you should stick with the exploration and the bigger map, because it would be more fun and not boring. Like finding materials to upgrade the house, tools(like ores) etc. The exploration is a crucial part of a farming a tower defense game, to find animals and other things. The bigger map too!

@rileylane8172 2 месяца назад

Do you use any sort of version control? It'd be a lot more useful and safe than just a backup folder

@Camilleillustrates 2 месяца назад

If you need someone to do U. Design, let me know. Happy to design something for you

@Dennis61451 2 месяца назад

The ammo / turret ammo change doesn't work together with the new limited inventory. To make that work you gonna need as little item variation as possible, else the player is just busy running around and storing stuff instead of playing the game. Instead just add up to 25 bullets to turret if possible per e press(if there are lessen then 25 in inventory-> add them to the turret). Also I think the 6 item slots won't work with crafting at all, but I'm curious about future developments! Maybe you will surprise me

@overphildev 2 месяца назад

very fair. I am worried adding an item for it will just waste space but I think down the road when I add more things it will help with balancing. It will be trail and error though so if it doesn't work I can always use your idea.

@Dennis61451 2 месяца назад

@@overphildev alright! Seems useful - keep up the good work, I really enjoy your diary

@MrsavageRoblox 25 дней назад

I haven’t finished the video at the time of this comment but seasons would be very cool in this game like the robot can rust.

@OmiGD 2 месяца назад

I hope this game becomes successful

@Lieutenant_Dan_V 2 месяца назад

This seems like some great progress, you have an actual game going now! Have you considered opening the game for some playtesting? Might be too early, I'm just curious

@overphildev 2 месяца назад

Yes I would love to do playtesting one day. I think I want to add a bit more before I let people play

@Lieutenant_Dan_V 2 месяца назад

@@overphildev cool! I'd lobe to help playtest if that ever happens.

@aldanasjuan 2 месяца назад

I'm on the 4th version of my game. I didn't even delete anything. I literally started an empty project 4 times, at first I copied some stuff but redoing everything was better because the first 3 versions taught me everything I needed to learn for the 4th and hopefully final version. So you're good unless you burned through someone else's investment capital.

@overphildev 2 месяца назад

yeah I should probably start from scratch since my project is a bit messy, maybe one day. Good luck on your 4th and final version

@GreenDu333 2 месяца назад

i understand the rooster arrow idea but isnt it too small ? how about the big wind thingy next to the barn instead ? or maybe its too big.. i guess a map with the barn at the center might be easier to read ? but harder to do for sure tho..

@overphildev 2 месяца назад

Wow it only took 15 minutes but someone had a better idea than me

@Callam001 2 месяца назад

Honeslty for me i much prefer the direction this is going in now. Dont know how many more survival games i can handle. Even as a "basic" tower defense theres a lot you can do. Especially in the 3D realm.

@moose6459 2 месяца назад

I hope you end up being back some features in the future. While scope creep is real, reducing your game to its simplest state makes a pretty… simple game

@overphildev 2 месяца назад

very fair. I think once I get the base defense to a solid place I can start bringing back the other stuff but I wanted to just focus on one thing for now

@smol.TomatenSuppe 2 месяца назад

this is great to see. tho imo exploration shouldn't get dropped completely. and become a core gameplay feature of course right now u should focus on the gameloop and core mechanics

@Koumertas 2 месяца назад

Hey, I'love to help with the 3d modeling for your game, free of charge of course.

@erobrinehunter 2 месяца назад

literally saw this coming when I saw the first video. Silly devs overdelivering with their grand delusion.

@overphildev 2 месяца назад

Live and learn

@smol.TomatenSuppe 2 месяца назад

whooah u are big intellent

@jpalz 2 месяца назад

Rather than adding another type of ammo, why dont you just make it so when you deconstruct a turret, it drops a number of bullets equal to its ammo divided by 25, and round down

@overphildev 2 месяца назад

I think it will be easier to balance this way. But I could be wrong and will go back to that if it doesn't work out

@VChillYT 2 месяца назад

yoo tree variation, and grass variation wuld help the game look more AAA, and less repetitive. nd different enemy types or darker variations of the current enemy.