Dmitry Koval, Service No. 5-98 (33) was the sailor/crew member who sadly lost his life in the 2004 accident on the Podolsk K-223. (I did some digging using Russian resources). Dmitry apparently tried to warn the rest of the crew by shouting "It's cracking!" (or words to that effect - my Russian is far from perfect) as events rapidly unfolded. Dmitry's role on the Podolsk was "матрос-электрик" (the literal translation is "sailor-electrician") - so he was probably an electrician's mate or whatever the correct rank is these days. I know, in the case of such an unfortunate accident, Aaron normally likes to mention the crew member's name - particularly if the sailor concerned was trying to protect the rest of the crew or if any heroism/self-sacrifice was involved. Bonus info: Podolsk is a small city about 15km south of the outskirts of Moscow. I've passed through it a few times on my way to the Russian countryside to go mushroom-picking with some Russian friends....))
Rightly or wrongly, I always understood that the collision (in May 1981) involving the Russian K-211 and initially attributed to an un-named American submarine, later actually turned out to be a British Swiftsure class submarine (HMS Sceptre) with the crew ordered (at the time) to say the submarine was damaged after hitting ice - with the truth only emerging years later. It looks like the British boat ran into the stern of the K-211.
@@nemom225 there's a been a few, but here's the one off top of my head. They more, but ld have to review some old notes. 1.USS DRUM SSN677 hits Victor 3, K324, while on photo recon in Peter great bay, photographing the sub it hits. 2.USS GARYLING SSN646 hits Delta 4, K407 Novomoskovsh 3.Baton Rogue SSN689 hits Serria class K276, Kostroma 4. James Madison SSN627 hits a Victor, outside Scotland. BRITISH CHURCHILL class takes over and pursued Victor, out of Loch
Hey Jive, I'm fascinated by what you have said about the sound of lost, drifting trawler nets...any chance you can access one of those recordings (as I can't imagine they are classified - unless trawler tech counts as state secrets? XD ) and show us, like you did with other sonar captured sounds? Be good for Halloween!
He described what is called a longline, because only they would have hooks on them. Mostly used for tuna fishing. They can have thousands of hooks and be miles long. Trawls are different. Bottom trawls for deep seas fishing have huge steel 'doors' that act as hydroplanes to hold the nets open 200-500 meters wide depending on the vessel. It looks like a big rectangle that decreases to a sock shaped net called a cod end. They have a ground line with a few dozen 50kg steel bobbins that roll along the sea floor and keep the ground line low. The headline has floats to hold it up and the fish swim under it. If the warp wires that connect the trawl to the winches break, the trawl will settle 600-800 meters down on the bottom, but the headline may float over 100 meters above that mess. Something a sub would not want to tangle with, especially those trawl doors that can weigh several tons each. We spent days trying to grapple line lost trawls and bring them back up, because they cost so much and take a long time to build. P.S. I think passive sonar would be able to hear trawling 100s of miles away. Doors, chains, cables and bobbins all rattling on the seafloor is very noisy. Very hard to sleep through when they haul on your watch off. I ended up using earplugs to sleep and getting the mess girl to shake me awake (never mind the morning stiffy lol).
@@aquilarossa5191 spoken like a true man of culture and a gentleman. Jeez weeks away from home, nothing but Jerking off and all she got to see was a stiff... Us guys are such monsters! That said I'm sure at that point if she was down.... meh I'll stop there :)
48:20 apart from military use, sometimes it's cheaper to launch sattelites from different points on the globe. And since ballistic missile submarine already basically a moving spaceport and already built - that's just logicall to try to utilise its capabilities in peacetime as much as possible. And crues definetly getting some useful expirience from launches
Aaron, you are speculating on the pressure required to open the hatches, it's more likely that tube 1 is used to house a "dead hand" missile that goes first to ensure launch orders go out.
Minor nit, but it is not a pressure problem that leads to not being able to open all of the hatches at the same time, but flow rate issues. If each hatch requires ten gallons of hydraulic oil to move the piston to fully open and there are eight hatches, the hatches will not all be fully open before the pump has moved eighty gallons of hydraulic oil. In the absence of any balancing system, the hatch with the least resistance opens first and the next lowest resistance hatch will start to open when the back pressure from the first hatch rises to the point that the pressure exceeds the resistance of the next hatch. Having separate pumps for each missile hatch still presents the potential problem of not being able to power all of the pumps at the same time.
Keep up the sub briefs. Great content. Like the Q and A video idea. I think a sub story video series would be fantastic. Doesn't have to be your own stories, could be other submariner interviews to crazy stories you have read.
I just discovered your channel the other day and I really like it! I see that you have some problems with pronouncing Russian names, so I'll give you some clarification. "Zvezda" shipyard is located in the Far East, indeed. "Zvezda" means "star" in the Russian language (and many other Slavic languages). "Zvezdochka" is another company which owns shipyards in the European part of the Russian Federation. "Zvezdochka" is a diminutive of "Zvezda" and it means "a little star." Now, you may have noticed that many things in Russia still have the word "Zvezda" in their names, and this is because the red star was a symbol of socialism, so many companies in the former USSR had the word "Zvezda" in their name.
Are we sure about that fire extinguishing agent? (38:41) LOX is a common abreviation for Liquid Oxygen, which makes a rather lousy fire supression agent to say the least. Could it be Nitrous Oxide, NOX?
After some googling apparently LOX is some kind of branding for the hypoxic fire suppressant system, which reduce the available oxygen to burn. So it's technically not wrong, it just whoever invented it decide to troll us with such stupid branding. I mean, you definitely wouldn't want to get it mixed up with the other LOx 😂
@@alanmsmxyz Found that too, it appears to be a preventive system, desigend to prevent fires by lowering the oxygen amount in a given space. While this could cause casualties among the crew, the reports mentions a fire and a response by a supression sytstem as a the cause of the fatalities. The LOX:TM: system being preventive andnot responsive does not fit the described circumstances.
I always loved the Delta III. Was the first variant I ever saw when reading Polmar's book in high school. I fell in love with all her free-flood holes.
I'm a serious historical, and modern surface ship, planes, jets, and inland technology buff, but never got into Subs. You have enlightened me! I now look forward to your podcasts! You know your subs!!!
28:00 not to mention that you most definitely do not want any nuclear fuel lying around with half hearted supervision, even if it's not weapons grade...
What I'm curious about is how did they decide which missiles to the deploy with. Was it just.. hey, lets flip a coin, or was it matched to a specific threat level? Was there any method to the madness (as I'm someone who while fascinated by this stuff, obviously watching the video, finds nuclear weapons in general to be madness). I mean, what on Earth would prompt them to say "okay, this time we go out to sea, we need the missiles that are .1 kiloton, because New York City is our biggest threat today!" Were they just specifically mad that Cory Heart wore his sunglasses at night on that particular day of the week?
It was actually ss104 HMS Scepter who had hit K211, not a USN Sturgeon class. They were trialing the Russians during a 2001 sonar trail and the Russian K211 went to clear the baffles and bang
I sincerely doubt that we are still paying for stuff like this. Not after Crimea. By the way, the term for Demonstrator-2s orbit type is: heliosynchronous, not heliocentric.
Hi Aaron. At 36:34 of your brief, your sub base locations are AFU. Krasheninnikov Bay is actually where you have indicated Pavlovsky Bay on the centre tile. In fact, the cyrillic writing below your 'Pavlovsky Bay' says 'Krasheninnikova Bay.' I used Google earth to look at it. Your left hand tile shows the correct name on the peninsula into the bay. Looking at each of the volcanic Kuril Islands to the south of the tip of Kamchatka I cannot find a single naval base close to where you have indicated it. On top of that, a search for Pavlovsky bay, or just Pavlovsky fails to show anything in the region. Where did you get this data?
You mention that the 7 bomb warhead is used for cities. What types of targets were the other warhead configurations used for? Would you do a mini special on slbm warhead configurations and the types of targets suitable for different types?
Excellent analysis, excellent vid. Thanks for making these! Given the geopolitical climate, military posture and couple that with the submarine designs and subsequent revisions afterwards, you can infer a number of things with regard to the lack of improvement for their reactor and engine room design and revisions or rather, lack of. The Russian designers, military leadership and political leadership likely didn't bother to make it all that stealthy as the Soviets, Russians thereafter, can be inferred as: 1) concluding that Russians and Americans would highly probable maintain military dominance and pre-eminence above all other possible military naval competitors; 2) Americans are highly probable of remaining as the only comparable military and sole naval power in an adversarial or competitor role; 3) it is highly unprobable that Americans will attack Russian assets or Russian centers, military or civilian, in a unprovoked, surprise, or pre-emptive strike. And so, I could infer that Russian decision makers subsequently looked at their situation and circumstances and concluded that they didn't have an imminent reason to improve the stealth (sound) characteristics of their engine design if these trends continued allowing them to re-allocate their funds to R&D in nearly every other related technology instead which was more advantageous as those innovations could be applied to multiple things and engine design was relegated to only submarines, yielding the least ROI in context. With CCP PLAN's submarine designs, we see incremental improvements and technological developments in progressive revisions where signature profile advances so that clandestine options are available and CCP should be profiled with caution as they are probable to attack unprovoked, surprise, or pre-emptive manner contrary to the American deterrence. If there was a re-design of Russian submarine configurations, it would be highly probable that it was intentionally to counter a CCP rise in military capability and Russia may need to face CCP forces in the future. A subsequent observed Russian revision in submarine configuration and/or doctrine in near future, if announced, showcased, or identified and reported would highly probable serve as confirmation of this. My opinion(s), of course.
Weeel, nither Chinese or Russians never invaded no one, and have alwas had deterent military philosophy, while amrca have purely invasionistic military (carriers) and have invade 37sovereign countries and killed 28million civillians in the process.
The size of these Russian missile boats is hard to 'fathom', until the photo of the K-44 in the floating dry-dock. The people walking around on the floor of the dry-dock are dwarfed by the sub. Still, it is hard to imagine something that size navigating deep under the ocean surface.
Hey JT, love your content. I was wondering if you could do a video about submarine anchoring systems, because while it is understood all vessels must carry an anchor you never hear about those systems being used or how they might work. It would also be interesting to hear about other ways a submarine might remain stationary- azipods or similar tech. Cheers
Likely just chance. Moving ships and submarines around berths at ports is akin to 4D tetris with added complexity of "when does this ship leave" and "does this ship need access to cranes?" etc.
The system you are talking about, namely the supply of breathing air, is available on several types of submarines, but the problem is that when a fire broke out on one of these submarines, the fire damaged this pipeline and this led to big problems, the fire received pressurized air and raged even more, this is the danger of this system, therefore it is not used on Delta 3, according to the instructions, the sailors have a certain time to leave the compartment, if this failed, the team must isolate the emergency compartment and turn on the gas fire extinguishing system despite the fact that there were people left there, otherwise the spread of fire will go to neighboring compartments, which will possibly lead to even more sad consequences.
You keep showing that slide of Pavlovsky and Krasheninnikov Bay with them being a hundred miles apart, they are not, in reality Krasheninnikov is not down on the tip of the peninsular but in the same bay as Pavlovsky just across from it on the other side of the bay not even 10 miles distant. That anecdote of them going to Krasheninnikov to save some transit time is nonsense, the mouth of the bay is equally distant from both places.
Not a lot...it's enough but it's not very big the yield may be higher than Hiroshima HOWEVER the fallout isn't as bad and there exists tactical nukes with almost a much yield...but having that small of a warhead in a MIRV system allows a higher chance for a successful engagement [smaller target for patriots and airborne laser missile defense systems]...more than enough yield for NYC or DC but not for hardened targets i.e. it's a terror weapon vs a strategic weapon...
The Chinese navy 094 class SSBN was very much based on the Soviet Delta III but with a smaller magazine of 12 SLBMs instead of 16. Even the missiles the JL2 was similar in length and range.
The hatches that open first are closest to the supply, example hydraulics pump, where the flow and pressure are greatest and encounter the least resistance. We when open are hatches, even on ones made in early 1990s, it was like this, just less noticable as it was a faction of a second. Now you simply jist use larger hydraulics pumps or usually more and position them inside differently
@John Milton no the newer are larger and of a different design. They used to be old gear pumps that actually can cause alot of noise. Now they are a newer design, with higher displacement that are actually quieter. Plus they are raft mounted now. Before there were bolted to the deck with some rubber pads in between, in an attempt to reduce noise. Totally different, like a model A, compared to a new vehicle today.
its name in Russian is K-433 Svyatoy Georgiy Pobedonosets there's an episode where you can see inside the k433 on the RT RU-vid channel. its a good one.
Hi Aaron! I enjoy your material and in-depth analysis of all things submarine. I am not really 'up' on Soviet nomenclature but I thought the K-129 was the Hotel that sank in 15k' of the Pacific and was partially recovered by the CIA (.Project Azorian - Wikipedia). Please correct my thinking. Thank you.
You supply phone numbers for various offices of the Nerpa yard but no review for the canteen! Shoddy! Just shoddy😂 If you do phone them then bare in mind we are tapping the line so no loose talk!😂
Hi, you said something that really peaked my interest about 50min in. You mention how If any big countries (US/Russia/China/etc.) Go to 'real war', everyone is going to instantly shoot down each other's satellites. (I don't disagree) leading to global communication blackouts. I'd be interested in hearing your opinions on how Starlink might shift the balance? It's one thing to shoot down a few dozen spy & communication satellites, but thousands of them? Especially when they've shown they can launch up to 150 in a week? I know there's also a potential threat of jamming, but wouldn't mind hearing your opinions.
The Russian religious sainthood-thing is quite an interesting subject. For example, Seraphim of Sarov has been declared, or considered to be patron saint of nuclear weapons. In a way it makes sense, even if it might have been an political move originally on the part of the Orthodox Church. ""Acquire a peaceful spirit, and around you thousands will be saved."" -Sarov
The thing that always baffled me about war was understanding the opposing forces' first-strike capabilities. It seems to me that during the Cold War, the Russians thought very highly of their first-to-strike capabilities... It makes you wonder the secrets of today.
48:38 USA got now 4500+ operational starlink satellites which some of them are military purpose (planned total 8000+). Impossible to destroy them all atm. Maybe by some advancer cyber warefare skynet system
[10/26/22] Hi Aaron!! I've only just recently subbed to your channel, and I am very concerned that you may advertently, or inadvertently reveal some classified Russian submarine capabilities/technology information. My question is, do we really want to tell the Russians how much, and what we know about their boats? With these briefs, we could be letting it known that we know too much. Your not having served in the Russian Navy means that you cannot be sure of what you are, or are NOT permitted to divulge. This could be an issue.
Because if you have torpedo nets open you'll tear them off at over 5kts. Plus they stopped fitting them when HMS Ramilles was in short shorts. They're useless against a 40kt torpedo
Question!!! in the smarter every day RU-vid video . Where the sub is surfacing in ice . The captain is the one going up the hatch to do the physical labor to get the ice off the top of his ship. Why is the captain doing this work and not one of the junior enlisted sailor. If there was ever grunt work chopping ice off the top of the submarine this would be it.
New subscriber here. Why do you sound so excited about what the Soviet Navy did/do? They were/are a threat to our US Navy. "Hats" of to the Russian Navy? REALLY, wow.
48:50 even if every satellite was taken out, the internet and Netflix would still be operational, because they are using sub-ocean cables and not satellites.
.1 MT is still 100 KT and that's 5 of the more powerful fatman bombs dropped on Nagasaki. or 6 little boy bomb dropped on Hiroshima. so the r-29rk has the equivalent of 35 fatman bombs.
Seems to me the Russians should be using un-manned underwater robots that can be deployed from the Orenburg to avoid putting human life at risk. In that way, she would be able to study just about any place in the ocean, or conduct missions there.
I think anyone that sees Russia as a complete enemy is naive. There’s been plenty of opportunity for hostilities. And have been serious hostilities but without without war. More recently The SAS and GRU were operating in Syria within 300 yards of eachother. On seperate sides of the conflict. Without a single casualty to either side. Speaks volumes for current global stability and cooperation. Along with USMC and VDV racing On the same highways on route to the same operations area. A privilege Formed by mutual exchanges such as submarine decommissioning. Decommissioning Retired nuclear submarines in exchange for unrestricted access to Soyuz and the ISS. Cooperation in the north and south poles with Icebreakers and Quite regularly Professional Oil and Gas services to Europe. Rights to Yak Engine technologies and assistance for the F35. Tracking data for old Soviet Star Wars satalites. And you know not letting extremists get hold of nuclear waste etc. It benefits everyone. And the more intertwined and reliant on each other the more impossible war becomes.. Russia is more like a Competitor then an enemy. A stubborn, unlawful, slippery competitor.
.2 megaton is a small weapon? Are you kidding me? That's more than 10x what was dropped on Nagasaki! Should be mentioned that it is a 200 KiloTon weapon!
I have been watching a very good BBC documentary called 'the silent war' in where British and US submariners talk about hunting Delta III's in the Arctic. Well worth a watch if you can find it
I am enjoying this russian series of sub briefs very much. Too bad you cant do all US subs, since I guess there is a lot of details which are classified.
