ORIGINAL NETFLIX SERIE Demeter was frustrated when her daughter Persephone chose Hades and the underworld over her. #Hades #BloodofZeus #Netflix #Demeter #Persephone
I can tell from the way Demeter grabs her, that she’s a possessive helicopter parent. She refuses to acknowledge that her daughter is a grown woman and only thinks with the mindset, “she belongs to me”. If she ever knew what Ares was about to do to her……
Exactly. Demeter is a helicopter parent to the extreme and I don't know why she was even okay with Ares. She should've known how he is at least in this interpretation where he's a raging bull ready to lock horns with anyone who sets him off.
Definitely spot on.👌🏾👌🏾👍🏾👍🏾 Demeter is like that parent who is constantly by your side all the way into adulthood, never letting you grow or learn anything new. She also can't stand it when her child isn't under her complete control, like in this scene when Persephone was trying to tell her all she'd learned while being in the Underworld and when she said that she'd chosen who she wanted to marry. I mean don't get me wrong, I know that Demeter's intentions are mostly coming from a good place, but the way she goes about it is so messed up and causes more pain than good.
@@MinhNguyen-pk9qk Yep. She was heartbroken at first, but she came to understand and accept that this was the way things were now. Also, in the original story, it was Hades's idea for Persephone to spend half of the year with him and the other half with Demeter.
@@PuccaLover15 She's a girl with the best intentions He's a man of his own invention She looked out the window He walked out the door But she followed him and he said "Whatcha lookin' for?" She said I want something that I want Something that I tell myself I need Something that I want And I need everything I see Something that I want Something that I tell myself I need Something that I want And I need everything I see, yeah... He's been livin' in a pure illusion She's gonna come to her own conclusion Right when you think you know what to say Someone comes along And shows you a brand new way She said I want something that I want Something that I tell myself I need Something that I want And I need everything I see Something that I want Something that I tell myself I need Something that I want And I need everything 'cause It's so easy to make believe It seems you're living in a dream Don't you see that what you need Is standing in front of you I want something that I want Something that I tell myself I need Something that I want And I need everything I see Something that I want Something that I tell myself I need Something that I want And I need everything I see
Its worse for Demeter, when she knows Persephone has children and is indifferent about the pain she causes them when she has to leave them; and is still bitter about Persephone being happy she married Hades.
For that reason, i think that Demeter is even worse than Hera, because in defense of the former Queen of Olympus, Hera become a piece of work only because Zeus was constantly cheating her, breaking her heart all the time, turning Hera in a bitter, paranoid and vengeful goddess. Even, during the Season 2, Hera showed a more wiser, merciful and selfless side, implying that she used to has this personality, prior to be cheated by Zeus, showing that Hera was a more considerated and caring goddess in the past. Unlike Demeter, who was an awful goddess since the beginning, to be too much possessive and controller with her daughter Persephone, to the point of forces her some suitors that Persephone didn't want. Adding that while Hera generally limits to harm only who are involved with the cheating of Zeus, Demeter hasn't qualms in put in jeopardize innocent bystanders from her personal issues, only to fulfill her shenanigans; like threat with a permanent winter that would leads to famine to the mortals if Persephone wasn't returned, or unleashes a plague to weakens the gods, disgarding the genocide against the mortals, making Demeter worse than Hera if you analyzes it.
@@The_Memorial Still, in Blood of Zeus, Demeter tried to forces Persephone some suitors, among them, Ares, who showed be an abusive man that doesn't treat Persephone with respect. Showing that Demeter is a too possesive and control freak mother, that cannot simply respect that Persephone takes her own decisions, making her a kind of abusive mother if you analyzes it.
DEMETER: You are a flower. Without sunlight you will wither and die. . . Also DEMETER: proceeds to have EVERY PLANT wither and die every other 6 months
Yeah, Persephone, in reality, has *nothing* to do with Spring or Flowers as popular media likes to portray. She truly is the Goddess of the Underworld.
@@pedrourbano501 I find the fertility thing funny for Persephone because she doesn't have kids of her own. She's not a virgin like Athena and Artemis, but she's child-free. Of course, there's stories where she helps raise other kids (even Dionysus in some), but that's more volunteer fostering
I understand that Demeter just wants to protect her daughter, and considering how Despina (Persephone's sister) came into the world I don't blame her, but she needs to understand that Persephone isn't a weak, naive little girl anymore who needs constant supervision and protection. She's a grown woman capable of making her own choices and falling in love with whomever she chooses. And to be honest, out of all those suitors whom she handpicked herself for her daughter, Hades is more mature, intelligent and honest than all of them combined. I mean, Ares, after having more than a few drinks I'm sure, had just tried to assault her in her own garden. Gods only know what would've happened if Hades hadn't shown up and kicked his *ss when he did. Is it really that hard for her to not have her daughter under her control?? She legit forces her to leave her loving husband and two beautiful children for six months of the year at the end of each winter, tearing apart her family thereby hurting Persephone in the process. I doubt Demeter's even seen her grandchildren, let alone spent time with them.
I get they did this for the story but I don’t like that they made ares attempt to SA Persephone, from what I’ve read Ares in the myth doesn’t do stuff like that to women in fact out of all the gods he’s one of the gods who’d genuinely protect women, the only downside of Ares is he ready for a fight always.
@@brainflash1 We don't know exactly why he gave her the fruit (aka the pomegranate) because the record is incomplete due to wear, tear and destruction over time. We assume it was to do this, but when you look at the whole surviving stories of Hades and Persephone, we see a couple that was the *most functional* of the pantheon. No seriously. Hades and Persephone as a couple are *functional* They don't fight, Hades doesn't cheat on her, he protects her from a Greek Hero who wanted to kidnap her, he never pressured her to have kids, she's clearly happy being a Queen...it's why the "kidnapping" marriage myth is looked upon as something that was "part of the times" rather than anything truly malicious. If anything the reason that kidnapping happened was because of Zeus
@@carlosmuller382nope the ancient myths with Hades she was very much kidnapped and imprisoned. “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened. No matter the versions ancient myths really did have her either not consent or didn’t mention it because at the time a woman’s consent wasn’t really a big deal especially if the father gave the man permission.
I know that everybody is rooting For Persephone and Hades, I do it too. But just running away with a lover without giving more explanations was a call to troubles.
From all we are shown in the series, there's no way in hell that Demeter would have accepted this match. Demeter was actually selecting the suitors for Persephone and shows nothing but contempt for Hades. Even when they are "allies" she tries to blame her own crimes on Hades in order to drive a wedge between him and Persephone. Persephone eloped for a reason
Yes, the eloping at first was a bit too sudden, but Persephone told Demeter fair and square that Hades saved her, that he did not hurt her in any way and that she chose him willingly as a suitor, and yet Demeter still refused to listen. Eating the pomengranade was another reckless move, but I still believe Demeter unintentionally pushed Persephone to do it, or that at least she was part of the reason, because she still treats her like she is a little girl who does not understand what is best for her when Persephone is an adult, a goddess, who knows what she wants
To be fair, based on how they characterise Demeter here, there's no way in hell she would agree. Hell, even in the myth of Persephone's "kidnapping" every time she leaves Demeter throws a fit and causes Winter. She KNOWS where she is and will eventually come back but still tortures humanity in her most well know myth for it.
She tried to tell her before it got to that point, Demeter wouldn’t listen! But then, again, after everything we were shown of the series, I doubt she would’ve listened regardless. Hell Demeter was selecting her daughter suitors without even asking her, and I doubt she would have bothered to hear that one of them being Aries actually tried to rape her!!! Persephone is now a grown woman who can make her own decisions, Demeter Just refuses to see her as one~~ Hell in the myth, she was raped by Poseidon and had another child Despoina which she abandoned! which frankly on a sidenote worked as a dynamic reference for the tangled series between Cassandra and Rapunzel. Rapunzel is the Sundrop ☀️, Cassandra is the moon 🌙, winter ❄️ and spring 🌸~~ you see where I’m going with this. RU-vidr Han Solo even made a video about it.
In the myths Demeter was heroically trying to reunite with her kidnapped daughter was taken against her consent and imprisoned by Hades. It sucks how she being victimized by her brothers in the myths then get hated on. Like people trash non her for not taking care of two kids she had due to being raped when she was traumatized.
@@DragonGoddess18 Persephone old enough to be married off but not mature enough to make her own choice. Makes you think is it Persephone's life or Demeter's.?
@@meshachbrandon233Persephone is fine with Hades and Demeter is acting like a helicopter parent, and that pushes kids away. A lot of kids with that kind of parent don't want anything to do with them. Act like a control freak=turn people off and not fully trust them
@@DragonGoddess18 I was saying that; Demeter is happy with her daughter getting married as long as it's someone she wants, but someone who she actually wants and it's not ok. So is it Persephone's life or is it Demeter's?
@@mwokoziKidnapped? Hades had the permission of Persephone’s father, Zeus, to bring her to the Underworld. It was less a kidnapping, and more of an arranged marriage.
@@Quinntus79 it’s kidnapping in the modern sense since Persephone was taken against her will. From the Homeric Hymn of Demeter: “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened.
It would be interesting to see one version of the story, where demeter instead of being completely against the marriage, she just is very lonely without her daughter, and the reason everything is snowy, is because the meter is in the Underworld visiting her daughter playing grandmother
I feel like the moment when Demeter is pulling her, despite Persephone holding Hades's hand, and while he curls his fingers to try and keep contact as long as possible because he doesn't want to lose her, he still lets her go so. damn. easily. rather than risk hurting her...says so much in less than thirty seconds.
Blood of Zeus’ and Lore Olympus’ seem pretty damn similar when it came to them being overbearing. But in LO, you get more backstory on why Demeter acts the way she did. Doesn’t excuse her behavior but she at least she learned her mistake and made up with Hades and her daughter in the end. Here? 😬😬😬😬😬
@@Zeldafreak3it’s made by a pervert who knows nothing about mythology and tried to call her perverted fantasies “feminist” when she seeks to demonize Demeter who was a victim alongside Persephone in the myths and even played off Demeter’s SA as a joke in the trial arc saying how Poseidon never calls his son when that son was the product of SA. She also is turned on by older men with barely legal teenagers.
@@jish55nope she is a great mother. “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened. Persephone even admits to being taken against her will. Demeter is protective but not overly protective. At that time a mother had to be protective.
It's touching how in the original myths, Persephone doesn't resent her mother and Demeter's trauma causes her to rightfully protect her daughter from the same fate that she suffered, given how Ancient Greece was. But all everyone does in modern retellings is turn Demeter into an evil helicopter parent to portray Persephone as some strong independent feminist heroine, even though Persephone doesn't do anything to prove herself as such in these retellings (apart from falling in love with the mysterious bad boy Hades or whatever)
Actually in the original myths Demeter fights the Patriarchy. Persephone didn’t have a reason to resent Demeter. “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened. Demeter also was very protective but rightfully so for the time. Often it’s agreed that the SA of Demeter by Poseidon happened while Demeter searched for her daughter after hearing Persephone’s screams and being told she was taken by Hades against her will.
That is true, but also in the mythology if I remember correctly Hades let her go, but he also did get her to take 6 of the seeds I don't know how he accomplished it but he did
@@kemahz1893 he only let her go because he was forced to and it’s debated between if she was trick into eating the seeds or just starving and became desperate
@@Quinntus79 the original myths of her and Hades. In the Cthonic myths Hades didn’t exist. The ancient myths of Persephone and Hades had Hades abduct Persephone in the modern sense. If you are going by the Cthonic myths then Hades doesn’t exist. It’s such a stupid point to bring up. The myths about Hades and Persephone come after the Cthonic version of Persephone and that Persephone is very different from the version of Persephone who married Hades. The original myths of Hades and Persephone are after the Cthonic versions and before the modern romantic versions that try and paint the relationship as consensual. With her and Poseidon that’s a clear kidnapping.
If I remember my mythology correctly, Persephone was born from Zeus raping Demeter, in fact I think this is not only Zeus's first affair/rape but the very first rape in Greek mythology. Of course Demeter would fear a similar fate befalling her daughter and assuming the worst, especially since Poseidon also raped her soon afterwards leading to the birth of Arion. Her thought process was probably something like, brother 1 & 2 cornered and raped me why would brother 3 be any different except this time he targeted my daughter and imprisoned her in his home. Demeter had ample reason to assume the worst, her mistake was continuing to assume the worst and pushing that narrative no matter what, then proceeding to hold the whole world hostage to force Persephone to be returned to her.
Hesiod, Theogony 912 ff (trans. Evelyn-White) (Greek epic C8th or 7th B.C.) : "Also he [Zeus] came to the bed of all-nourishing Demeter, and she bare white-armed Persephone whom Aidoneus carried off from her mother; but wise Zeus gave her to him." Homer, Iliad 14. 326 ff (trans. Lattimore) (Greek epic C8th B.C.) : "[Zeus names his most pleasurable liaisons :] ‘I loved the queen Demeter of the lovely tresses.’" She is not necessarily raped, according to the source, Demeter was the fourth wife of 6 that Zeus had, but only Hera had the honor of being crowned queen
In the myths it was Demeter standing up against the patriarchy and saving her daughter from being completely imprisoned by Hades after Hades kidnapped Persephone.
The thing is that you can work with a kind and caring Demeter, you can explain her overprotectiveness with how she was treated by Zeus and Poseidon (both of them assaulted her and Zeus gave her daughter to Hades for free and without telling any of them) and not wanting any of that for her daugher; and, when she finds out what happened to Persephone, her sorrow can be explained by expecting nothing better from her third brother (and an interesting situation when mother and daughter are reunited at last and Persephone just tells her mother that Hades just showered her in gifts and gave her the Underworld)
Bc Demeter's a helicopter parent that literally JUST tried to manipulate Persephone into not seeing the man she loves, while completely forgetting she has another daughter besides Persephone. Sure, her rape by Zeus and Poseidon understandably made her this way, but it doesn't justify it.
@@cherami-nox-fleuret Despoina is only an individual Goddess according to Pausanias. Despoina may have been an epithet of an archaic, Pre-Hellenic Persephone, who was worshipped alongside the Pre-Hellenic Demeter as part of an agrarian religion in Arcadia and Eleusis.
I seriously hated Demeter in Season 2 of "Blood of Zeus." Total helicopter parent, refused to acknowledge her daughter as a grown woman, is condescending with the mindset "she belongs to me." Plus, she wanted Persephone to find a suitor. Why wouldn't she be happy with Persephone choosing Hades? He's just as powerful as Zeus and Poseidon and holds just as much influence. He's basically royalty among the Olympian Pantheon.
damn, some of y'all in the comments need to learn history. context matters. applying modern morality to ancient stories that were initially only told through word of mouth is just... EVERY story is going to get twisted whether you like it or not. it's just the nature of stories.
I mean in the actual myth Demeter was a great mother and Persephone had been kidnapped. “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened. Persephone even admits to being taken against her will.
If you thought Demeter here was rash, you should see her in Lore Olympus....still, at least in the end Lore Olympus Demeter came to accept her daughter's relationship.
@@outbreakperfected5704nope it’s made by a pervert who knows nothing about mythology and calls her comic a “feminist retelling” when it’s the farthest from feminist as it seeks to demonize Demeter who in the original myth fought back against the patriarchy.
@@falconeshield no, it's absolutely good...at least until the end, where Rachel obviously rushed it and left a lot of loose ends and clearly abandoned side plot lines. But that may not have been entirely her fault, she was probably getting a lot of pressure from Webtoons, combined with personal problems she's been dealing with IRL. Of course, since they're adapting Lore Olympus into an animated series, if Rachel has any involvement in it she can you use it to expand the story in ways she wasn't able to do with the comic.
I like that instead of going for Hades is evil and keeping Persephone against her will like some versions they instead make there relationship healthy. Also point out how overbearing Demeter is to a toxic level
No it’s not…Demeter was just a overprotective mother in a world full of creepy old men she had a temper but far from the bitter mother in law that the media try to portray her as
Fun fact: Hades and Persephone have the healthiest relationship out of all the Greek Gods. No fighting, no backstabbing, nothing of the sort. The only issue was the whole kidnapping thing but that was Zeus’ fault
I'm glad that Persephone chose her path and who she wants to be with but Demeter here's a lesson she's grown woman you can't protected her or shut her out from the world and don't make rumors about Hades just accpect it.
I kinda dislike how a lot of medias drag Demeter through the mud by portraying her like an evil hag who disapproves Hades x Persephone relationship 😭 while canonically she’s one of the chillest Olympians and Persephone rejected Hades vehemently when he kidnapped her, Demeter did neglect her duties of governing the seasons when looking for her daughter but a lot of medias escalated it to her doing it out of spite which bothers me a lot
You've heard of Demeter's curse? It's literally starving to death. That's why people can dislike her because even she took punishment too far to the point a man killed himself by eating himself alive. She truly is Zeus' sister in that sense. And then there's Demophon...Demeter had no right to NOT explain herself for burning him alive and get mad at his mother for not understanding what she was doing. She kidnapped that child after all. Truly...the chilliest Olympian is Hades, and he's been done dirty because of Christianity wanting to associate him with Satan. But his only true crime is Demeter's kidnapping, something that was sanctioned by Zeus himself. Even the story of the pomegranate is looked upon as a later addition rather than the original story, and even so the reasons why it is there has been lost to time.
@@girl1213 the dude who she cursed was warned and openly said let the tree be Demeter and cut it down. He was also killing her people. Hestia was the best she never kidnapped or imprisoned someone like Hades did. Demeter was often victimized. She was SAed by Poseidon and Hades took Persephone against Persephone’s “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened. With the winter she was desperate. Her daughter also was desperately wanting to reunite with her mother. the dude who she cursed was warned and openly said let the tree be Demeter and cut it down. He was also killing her people.
Btw in actuall greek mythology she gets kidnapped by hades but ends up falling for him oh and in greek mythology to hades actually never cheated on persephone but she ends up cheating on him with a mortal called adonis who she fights over with aphrodite
According to some of the versions of Greek Mythology , Persephone actually ate four or six seeds while in others she only ate three . Even in one story , she ate seven pomegranate seeds .
Ok but why6 seed in the myth it makes more sense because before they we’re bred it would make sense that they only had six seed but here it’s just weird
@@ΣοφοκληςΒλαχόπουλος-ι9ν actually no, Hades ends up being very loyal to Persephone and is one of the only gods who doesn't have extramarital affairs, Persephone also ends up loving Hades and becomes enraged when the nymph, Minthe, boasts about trying to win Hades back and turns her into a plant.
I appreciate that Hades never tries to assert himself over Persephones free will or even between the mother and daughter. Hea a good bloke. That's why he a dman King.
Now’s not the time to make rash decisions? Says the woman who arbitrarily assumed Ares was a suitable match for her daughter, only for him to attack her on an impulse
Puedo entender está escena de BLOOD OF ZEUS SEASON 2, 😢😮🤔😑, porque vemos a Hades, el 👑 rey del Inframundo, deseando estar con su amada Perséfone. Deméter debe entender que ❤😢😮😤 que su hija ya es adulta para tomar sus propias decisiones, la estaba sobre protegiendo demasiado. Entiendo que la quería proteger, pero no por eso 😢😮😠😱🕊️👥 justificaría que la siga siempre. Si nos ponemos del lado de Hades, el se había enamorado sinceramente de Perséfone, pero le duele que solo puedan estar juntos cada 6 meses porque así lo dicta el destino. Es algo incomprensible para mí 😑😑😲😂😬 el porque Deméter, le guarde tanto rencor a Hades, vaya, así de difícil se puso la suegra. Pero de cualquier forma, el gobernante del mundo de los muertos no quería estar separado de su amada. ❤❤❤🎉😢😢😢😢. Aunque sus acciones fueran cuestionables. Gracias por esta escena 😃😄😮❤❤❤.
Because they forget in the myths Hades kidnapped Persephone and isolated her. “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened. To make it seem like a healthy relationship they must make twist and ruin Demeter’s characterization to do so.
Nope this version is the lie. “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened.
So is it demeter who covers the world in snow or another as snow actually gives sheild from the cold so I think another god placed snow to protect from the famine she made
@@brendenpepper1923 The crops. She basically makes it so there is no harvest. As you said she is the goddess of agriculture and well if she does not want there to be a harvest then she'll do so lol
@@brendenpepper1923 I mean she is a deity. Just cause she like doesnt actively use elemental powers doesnt meant she can't use em LMAO. Idk how it works but miss ma'am made sure no crops were growing
@@ZephyrBWyeah, literally very six months away from her fully adult daughter who can make her own decisions, decided to PUT US IN PAIN in winter and autumn! Just because of her own problems! Lady! We didn’t do anything to your daughter!
Yeah that sucks because in the myths Demeter is constantly victimized and Hades is a kidnapper who mistreats Persephone in the beginning before Demeter forces him to treat Persephone better. “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened.
Tbh my thoughts as to y Demeter was so dead set on bringing Kore back home,was the fear of who Hades was. Demeter knew little of Hades,she knew Zeus n Poseidon more and how they would disrespect their wives by raping em,punishing em extremely for little to no reason,cheating on them,having bastards kids,etc. She didn't want her daughter being put through the pains and slowly becoming a shell of her old self, so in my opinion i think thats y she wanted Kore near her,to keep an eye on her husband n to keep him on a tight leash, she wouldn't be able to in the underworld.
If only Demeter knew that Hades was nothing like Zeus and Poseidon. Hades was mature and fair. And he was a kind and loving and faithful husband to Persephone. He didn’t treat Persephone like a trophy. He made her his equal in the Underworld
@@thewhitewolf6715 “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened. He treated Persephone like a trophy.
i love how Greek Myth is having a moment now, between this and The End Crowns All by Bea Fitzgerald , and the recently dropped HERA by Jennifer Saint and MEDEA by Rosie hewlett, i think bone season by samantha shannon as well, since thats like a scifi take on the hades and persephone myth
In a deleted scene, the moment that Persephone returns to Olympus, Demeter scolds Persephone for being late. Persephone says that it’s because it’s harder now since her children are growing older. Demeter is cold, telling Persephone that she should have thought of that before marrying Hades. If Demeter truly lived Persephone, she wouldn’t force the pain of tearing a mother away from her children.
Hades doesn’t seem an evil god, he is a sad god who is been all alone and All he ever want it was to be and stay with his wife Persephone, he understand her, they both love each other so much, all they ever want it was go up and feel joy for their childrens
In the myths he was toxic and controlling plus he kidnapped Persephone. “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened.
@@user-hb4zz4gh5eDemeter didn't want Persephone getting married at all. And when she found out that Persephone was married to Hades (one of the only loving and healthy relationships in Greek mythology) she had a sulk tantrum and stopped the plants from growing and basically caused an Ice Age, killing untold numbers of mortals. And that was after they built her a whole temple for her to sulk in and made her some sacrifices she demanded (I THINK one of them was a baby, but I don't know for sure).
In Greek mythology , even when Hades kidnapped Persephone and held her captive to the Underworld , she eventually came to love Hades . Also , in other versions , Hades even stays faithful to Persephone .
Honestly, the true story is far from this. The true story depicts Hedes as kidnapper and Persephone wantrd to escape and she cried and was tricked into eating to trap her.
It depends on which retelling you look into. The depictions are as varied as the regions that told them. Either she was slipped the pomegranate seeds by Hades, she ate them voluntarily as part of the marriage pact or to exercise her freedom from Demeter. But tricked or not, Persephone and Hades unanimously has the most functional and stable relationship of all the Olympian and Chthonic gods.
No seriously, when can we actually talk about the true story without Persephone x Hades fans getting upset. I’m tired of hearing about all the versions their are whenever someone brings this up, like the tragedy is a version of it as well but everyone acts like they can’t fathom to accept that Persephone and Demeter actually cared about one another and wanted to stay together. I’m more than tired of Demeter being constantly demonized in her own myth and having her grief be nothing more than a petty disagreement. Hades felt entitled enough to kidnap her own daughter so she should feel more than entitled to be angry.
@@Future_jira A myth that people still follow and is ingrained in someone else’s culture, we can still have respect for the religion and not try and dismiss it as some myth just because it’s been modernized to hell. Lots of the retellings I’ve seen don’t even understand the true meaning of the myth anyways, and if it truly “doesn’t matter” my compliant shouldn’t be too much trouble.
Idk why the media continues to make Demeter so possessive, in the original myth she was rightfully worried about her daughter because Zeus and and Hades literally kidnapped her.
@@varriche still sucked. “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened. Also it’s good that Demeter stood up against the toxic custom and patriarchy.
@@d4-v1d22 I mean the power imbalance for the age difference is a big part. Siblings are more closely related but Persephone is also very clearly much younger.
It's incredible guys (men) can you imagine falling in love with a beautiful girl not showing your face until you finally do and you actually win her love and she has a parent So controlling and she does something like that for you Just to be together what an Incredible Witness love Must really be that successful if you try hard enough Love truly is The most powerful emotion
In the myths he takes Persephone against her will and imprisons her. “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened.
@@sxatcychan1988 pretty much all ancient versions had Zeus give Persephone to Hades and at the time that means a father telling a man to go kidnap his daughter.
An abusive partner. “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened.
Everyone always talk about how hades is portrayed…when they always make Demeter to be this bitter mother n law when there’s creeps like Poseidon, pan, and hades lurking, I’ll be overprotective also
Hades is not a creep he asked for her hand in marriage and was given permission and he gave her the choice to live with him or go back but he does have flaw I will admit
@@Future_jira he asked her father who didn’t raise nor took care of Persephone…people call Demeter overprotective and bitter when she was just being a grief stricken mom who’s child was kidnapped by her uncle
@@vladimirdaudier6253 from the Homer’s Hymn of Demeter: “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened.
In the actual ancient myths she’s actually a great mother and Hades sucks. “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened.
in greek myth. Persephone ate pomegranate seeds. she bound to underworld. she stayed on underworld in half of year. other half, she spend time with her mother
So after seeing the Gaia thing at the end I wonder why she didn’t show up sooner and punished Demeter for abusing her power cause she can’t accept a choice that her daughter made and the consequences from it
In the myths she wanted to be with Demeter. “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened.
If I was Demeter I would've not agreed not for half of year, not for more or less. Let the desolation consume the earth. Judge me all you want but If I was in Demeter's shoes, as god I would've refused to fulfill my duties so the world may feels my pain.
So, you're not going to recognize your daughter's feelings, and you're going to let people know you're petty enough to make them suffer because things don't go your way...
@@varric knowing that my daughter will live in the underworld, and knowing that nobody give a fuck about my feelings, then let the world burn. She can do as she pleases but don't expect me as parent to let go without consequences. A parent who knows that the place where his/her child will live is a bad one and poisened, then yeah I am petty if I'll let him/her to live there.
@@varric “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened. Myths Persephone wanted to be with Demeter not Hades
What's interesting is how this is more accurate to the Gods than people tend to believe. Persephone was always portrayed as intelligent (which is why she was the one who was responsible for cursing those who wronged the Underworld). Add in how overbearing Demeter was, Persephone would have known about the pomegranate before eating them, because Demeter would have most likely warned Persephone about what would happen (since she didn't want Persephone to leave her side). Finally is Hades, who wasn't a horrible God, but instead someone who did his job and only once ever showed any signs of doing wrong (kidnapping Persephone), which isn't really kidnapping in ancient Greece since he obtained permission from Zeus, which was the equivalent of marriage back then.
Nope in the myths Persephone wanted to return to her mother. She was either predicted as being tricked or her being so desperate due to starvation he needed to eat also Demeter might have not known the rule. “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened.
@@mwokozi Except a) Hades was not a trickster, being more solitary and straight forward in every other myth, so him suddenly tricking Persephone goes against his entire character, b) Persephone grew to love the Underworld after a time, as well as loving Hades due to how he was the only God to treat her as an equal, and c) Hades was not in the original myths, where Persephone was the only ruler for hundreds of years, where Hades was only added in later telling's. Then let's not ignore how overbearing Demeter was, where she kept Persephone in consistent isolation until Persephone was taken to the Underworld. It's also the most well known piece of knowledge that consuming the food of the Underworld would bind one too it, so Persephone would have known about this before even descending to the Underworld.
@@jish55 a) the trickster part was because of the time period. B) also again time period and the culture where women were expected to fall in love with their husbands who they were forced to marry. C) Hades in the myths with Persephone did abduct her as she was given to him by Zeus and in the oldest fully intact myth that we have being Homer’s Hymn to Demeter Persephone openly says she was taken against her will and all ancient versions afterwards align with it. Versions of a consensual marriage between the two is post 1900s D) Demeter wasn’t overbearing and actually allowed Persephone to have friends and it was whole Demeter was away that Hades abducted Persephone. E) again you’re assuming Persephone knew when it was likely that she was never informed. The pomegranate thing was well known because of Persephone being bind to the Underworld using it.
“Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened. She’s protective not overbearing and she’s not overprotective she is the right amount of protective.
@@helloiwanttootakeoverthewo3217 he said he could not that he had to plus he could have released Persephone when it was clear she didn’t want to stay with him. “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened.
I hate the overbearing mother archetype Demeter gets. Its inaccurate and takes from the actual mythology. the way it acknowledged the REAL truth of daughters being kidnapped, mothers being torn away from their children
@@Future_jiranope Demeter was reasonably protective and was a great mother. “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened.
@@Future_jiranope. “Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened. Hades also was not acting like a loving husband then and only did so later plus he took Persephone against her consent.
Boo! Stop romanticizing a myth about a man kidnapping a young girl and forcing her to be his wife and turning the main character, Demeter, into the villain. It’s so overdone and not even a Greek version of the myth.
I’m really over this thing everyone’s doing now to rewrite the Hades and Persephone myth as a romance story. It’s so played out at this point and the dude is still her fucking uncle. Taking out the abduction and rape from the story doesn’t make it less creepy.
@@TimberlakeTigerGirl in the original myths it wasn’t intentional on her part. The season change was because she was so distraught over the fact that her daughter was missing - you know, having been kidnapped and raped by her uncle. Zeus ordered Hades to return Persephone because Demeter was inconsolable… because her child was missing… because, ya know, she had been kidnapped and raped by her uncle.
@@TimberlakeTigerGirl She didn’t intentionally make anyone suffer in the original myths. The seasons changed to eternal winter because she was so distraught about her daughter being missing - you know, because she had been r*ped and kidnapped by her uncle. Zeus had to order Hades to return Persephone because Demeter was inconsolable and the state of the earth was a reflection of her. So, personally, I don’t think it’s wrong to be upset that your child is missing - ya know, having been r*ped and kidnapped by her uncle - but if you do, you’re entitled to that opinion I suppose.
@@TheAzerath I'm not saying she was wrong to be upset. But anyone with a brain would know that she had no right to make millions of people suffer because of her grief. It's made clear in the original stories that she knew that Humanity would suffer in winter and didn't care. It's a pretty common theme in Greek mythology that the gods did whatever they wanted and didn't care about how it affected humans. That's the equivalent of a mother shooting up a random mall or grocery store because her daughter got attacked and was angry about it. You can be upset but don't take it out on others who had nothing to do with it.
@@TimberlakeTigerGirl it’s not the same at all, actually. The season was supposedly tied to Demeter’s mood. Idk what part of that you’re having trouble comprehending. Unless you know of women who turn into guns when they’re sad, that’s a pretty fucked up comparison and not at all accurate.
Demeter: PERSEPHONE I DON'T CARE YOU ENJOY YOUR LIFE OR HAVE FOUND SOMEONE YOU LOVE AND PROBABLY HAVE GREAT RELATIONSHIP YOUR DOING WHAT I SAY!! Persephone: i hate you mom and I'm pregnant Demeter: WHAT HOW DARE YOU RAPE MY DAUGHTER HADES!!! Hades and Persephone: WHAT?! NO SUCH THING HAPPENED!!!!
“Hermes did not disobey, but straightaway he headed down beneath the depths of the earth, rushing full speed, leaving behind the abode of Olympus. And he found the Lord inside his palace, seated on a funeral couch, along with his duly acquired bedmate, the one who was much under duress, yearning for her mother, and suffering from the unbearable things inflicted on her by the will of the blessed ones.” Persephone also tells Demeter she was taken against heed will and cries during the abduction. In the myth by Persephone’s own account too she was not happy at all with what happened.
@@genesismultiverse4896 yeah but the ancient versions almost unanimously agree that she did not consent and those that didn’t describe her being taken against her will didn’t say she was a consensual partner. Sometimes they differentiate with them luring Demeter away before snatching Persephone up against Persephone’s will. “Out of all her friends only the naiad Cyane tried to rescue the crying Persephone but she was no match for the powerful Hades. Bereaving her friend’s kidnap, Cyane melted into a pool of tears and formed the river Cyane at the spot.” The ancient versions of the myth had smaller changes to some the biggest being the amount of seeds Persephone consumed and thus the time plot between Demeter and Hades. Still her misery with Hades in the beginning and her being kidnapped didn’t really change between ancient myths. It was based off of the custom of the time where a father would give a man permission to take his daughter (usually 14 to 16) and he would do what we in the modern era would call kidnapping as he would take the girl against her consent and imprison her in his house, isolate her from her friends and family, and the girl would first be super miserable and homesick however she had to learn to deal and tolerate behind married to the man. Persephone’s tale follows this. It’s not just to explain how the seasons came to be but also mirrored how marriages worked at the time. It’s a horrific thing that happened and it shouldn’t be forgotten.
@@ΣοφοκληςΒλαχόπουλος-ι9ν it's all based on the myth.. She did after all take her emotional damage out onto humanity because she couldn't be with her daughter, all this show really did was add a bit of contextual filler to her character where the myths lacked in. I wouldn't call it slander
