When these first came out 3 years ago I was like WTF…. But now I’m am starting to come around, wish I could have appreciated these when these where recorded. I hope Matt is doing well
Quote from this stream @54:12 that stuck with me. The context before it is really good too but this lays out the GrillPill philosophy pretty well: My big advice to people in the moment right now, the thing that feels the most true is log off, to the degree that you can. But don't just sit around, don't just game, don't just jack off, don't just get high. Apply yourself to something with your whole heart and intention. If you focus hard enough on the world around you, you can find something. It doesn't have to be political. The political comes later after you've satisfied the deeper urge that your political life is only a cover for. It's only a band-aid on a bullet wound. You have a spiritual ache and you're trying to cover it with politics but politics has to come out of spiritual understanding, not cover for spiritual emptiness. Because then it will always lead you astray. So fill that hole at the spiritual level by applying yourself to the world around you in a way that is satisfying and keeps you in the moment and makes you perceptive of your moment. Then you will find a place to put your politics that will emerge from that organically.
I bought a grill and a bunch of grill supplies for a camp of unhoused people living in a park near me Go find some people who need help and grill with them Do it Grill pill
Can I ask what the deal is with this "grill pill" stuff? Is grilling a particularly difficult or exclusive skill? I've done a bunch of grilling stuff, and it all seemed fine.
Thank you Matt, you have helped me turn my life around. I have already cleaned up my room and at this very moment while watching this I am shaving my pubes.
Hey all, I ripped the audio from this and doctored it a bit with EQ and compression, and ducked down the loud mic handling noise in the beginning. It's not perfect but a bit more listenable. File's here: soundcloud.com/user-38539058/demiurge-overkill
If Bernie hated the party why was he reluctant to bust it when he most needed to? He’s a pretty straight forward dude; he’s said “I like XXX (Democrat), they’re my friend”; he wasn’t lying. That wasn’t hate, it was his need to see some goodness in a community he semi inhabits. He’s a good man by traditional measures, too decent for the Roman Citadel on which he stands. He needed an advisor to be the devil on his left shoulder, reminding him of the rules and stakes of the game he engaged in. He needed to briefly stare into the abyss.
“I’m trying to figure out what to do with the rest of my fuckin life, and until that changes, it’s this.” - Matt at approx 37:48. Yeah, I’m 60k in the hole for a masters degree in fiction writing and I only work at a fucking convenience store, and that was BEFORE Covid hit. I think those of us watching this are at least somewhat more aware of reality than non chapo listeners. We at least understand the basic premise of “this political and economic system is unsustainable and unjust”, and now it’s about dismantling that system. I just don’t know how we can get more people on our side.
Gain the vocabulary you need to describe your ideas and learn to talk to people about things that they're interested in. One day material conditions will change enough and we'll have our chance to fix/destroy it
Come to the place that people are in.. Then come from there. Do your homework and develop public speaking skills by deploying them more often. You must always keep in mind that you aren't just converting others, they will also convert you. That shared experience will eventually allow you to develop messaging that reaches ears & grabs hearts.. Good luck comrade!
It's the the systems fault that you spent 60K on a fiction degree and work at a convenience store. It's not even you're fault. You were just born an idiot.
@@adamskorupskas2184 Agreed. Seriously, I understand about having college debt, because I have it too, but you can't complain about having college debt if you went to college for a completely useless study. I went for IT, I still have some debt rolling around but since graduating 10 years ago I've never found myself working a shitty job. My career has been amazing and taken me on a crazy ride of different experiences. Meanwhile I fully understand that college education is entirely too expensive and purposely getting yourself into substantial debt just to sniff the panties of a career isn't exactly enticing to a lot of people. I went to a vocational college, significantly less debt, got certifications right out of college and my career has been amazing.
@@slamdangles anecdotal and utterly useless blabber that serves no purpose in reality. Your individual "education" to career experience story would require far more context and depth to be remotely insightful or useful to anyone in any way..
Reading raises your health bar, but mostly if you exit your soft blankie. People will read inside their wheelhouse. It’s hard not to. But if your looking for big non abstract action go help people. Serve life. In some way, in any way. Take your mind and let it move your whole body to do good works. It sounds so Aesop, and so be it.
Matt's view of the subreddit separating into self-reinforcing opposing formations which fail to solidify in the absence of real concrete political institutions -- That's Frederic Lordon's politics of affects. A real eye-opener and antidote to liberalism.
What I would pay for Matt to play Persona 5 and give us his thoughts on it. It's literally about how the Demiurge and his Archons manifest in our world and crush the up-and-coming generations. It would be perrrrfect.
i know i'm late to the party but: the advice at 54:16. you're absolutely right. this was not a new idea to me but i think you're one of the greatest minds of our generation, so to hear you emphasize this, i will be taking it to heart and logging off for a good while. and +1 for checking out Alan Watts.
5:00 Jesus saying "turn the other cheek" was a tactic to embarrass the one doing the slapping. It was about demanding justice. Same for "go the extra mile" and "give him your second cloak". It's about turning the tables on established power.
@@missyrogers7098 the value comes from the onlookers becoming engaged with more radical movement than they otherwise would have. 1 punch back from the person "turning the other cheek" < 10 punches back from those who come to defend the person "turning the other cheek", this nonviolence is a means to an end that needs to be contextually evaluated and may or may not be the most effective strategy at a given time. this is the essence of nonviolence, what most people and even inexperienced radicals fail to understand that the person "turning the other cheek" may have just radicalized a million others if the situation is right. many times nonviolence is not the most effective strategy, but the emergence of "symbolic leaders" who emerge in narratives of social and revolutionary movements often coincides with an intense moment of symbolic interactionism wherein the victim of the violence represents both the radicalized group's cultural ideals and overcomes the illusion of "justice" previously imposed by the dominant group.
@@arnold-pdev right? physics doesnt tell you what to believe in, but it does eliminate a lot of the mystery of the natural world. So "useless" isnt the right word, perhaps "non-prescriptive" captures their intent
Obviously there are different philosophies on what makes mathematics so successful: idealism, pragmatism, intuitionism, etc. I just find Matt's willingness to outright disregard whole schools of thought indicative of the graduate student, and I have 9 wasted years of graduate school.
Demiurge overkill - on cancel culture You essentially said "people want to cancel others because they want to have some power, and are afraid of being powerless when the time comes (whatever that "time" may be)" This gets to a few aspects of cancel culture. People are competitive on the internet. They want to bring people down because then people will follow them more, listen to them more, they'll have more social power. However, I think your analysis misses a class of people, the ones who keep up with who's cancelled and who's not. Those people aren't motivated by their own power. Instead they lack trust in their fellow person, especially those with any power/influence. Bernie was super successful because of his inhuman trustworthiness and honesty (40 years saying the same things). Obama had a lot of trust because he was black and said some pretty economically populist things in 2008 (not great, not bad), but in the end he sold people out, maybe because of his aperture of agency that you mentioned. My question to you is: how should the left know who is a good representative or bad representative of the movement? (I think cancel culture is the current way to determine good and bad, and I think that's fucky) Love the streams, would love if you could share any thoughts related to trust in politics, people, etc. Keep killin it!
You can't compare Bernie to Obama. Bernie is in a very unique position, and he has been allowed to STAY there because he serves a purpose. He was NOT allowed to become the president because if he was allowed into that position - the PEOPLE would have become too powerful. That is never allowed. Any time that happens - the momentum is shut down. That's what happened when the people became too powerful in the late 60's. MLK was murdered, Malcolm X, the Black Panthers were infiltrated by the FBI and murdered or imprisoned, the Communist and Socialist parties were disbanded. Obama also served a purpose. He was the first Black president. He showed "progress." He settled the left down. At the same time - he stirred up the far-right. So, after Obama did his JOB, just like EVERY president does - we got Trump. I'm certain that this switch from a Black president to a far-right White Supremacist was planned at least a decade in advance. It didn't matter who the individuals were. All that mattered was one was a Black "Democrat" and the other was a far-right Republican. I put Democrat in quotes because we don't have a two party system. We have a one party system with two fake heads for the media circus. It's all BS/propaganda - a distraction so the masses don't pay attention to how they are lied to all the damn time. 99% of the politicians in Washington are a variation of Neoliberal. That would be corporatist, like Obama, both Clintons, both Bushes, Reagan, etc. The rare exception would be Bernie and AOC, but they can't get anything done.
The demiurge is the second God in Platonic theology. He is the active intellect that arranges the world of matter. He's not any more or less evil than the world of experience.
I believe in historical and material dialectics. I am a speck of dust in the wind. I try to change things by being kind. I won't make a revolution but I have made people's stay here less painful and that's better than nothing. Small stuff matters. Grill!
Matt always drops in some good vocabulary lol. I had to look up ensorcelled (at 12:07) - bewitched or enchanted. I remember when he first started using the word “redounded” a lot on Chapo, I think it was last year haha
I'd be interested in hearing Matt's reasons for rejecting the 'Borg Cube' idea of revolution. Nerd-shit, but goes as follows: You take down a Borg cube (the combined hegemony of the state and capital) by overwhelming it with a number of independent, uncoordinated, but simultaneous attacks. This differs from the 'One Big Push' idea as the actors under the Borg Theory all have differing goals, motivations, and methods. In theory, the entire capitalist system and the state which is intertwined with it is unable to either mediate or sublimate so many disparate movements against it. Other left movements in history have been able to establish power in such a way. (Also, Matt is like two weeks away from going mask-off and talking about Kabbalah.)
You're still talking about a coordinated attack, so who coordinates it? Who is given the authority to say how and when and where it happens? You still need the representation Matt talks about to make this happen.
Books > Internet To anyone with a concern for novel social forms, the Anarchist collec tives of Spam raise many fascinating questions: how were the collec tive farms and factories established? How well did they work? Did they create, any administrative difficulties? These collectives moreover were not mere experiments created by idle dreamers; thev emerged from a dramatic social revolution that was to mark the c imax and tragic end-of the traditional workers' movement
Alan Watts became so lucid and zen genius, as he got older he realized the best way to go out was as a drunk. Seriously though, when you first hear this, it sounds kinda pathetic and embarrassing, but you listen to him enough and realize that he knew exactly what he was doing and just leaned into the programming that he had stuck in him from day one. But I honestly think he's the West's best big picture, ego-shedding, self-deprogramming thinker. Dig into that shit.
Alan Watts is exceptionally erudite but also a subtle, accessable and profound communicator. He grasped the universal spiritual truths expressed in Christianity, Daoism, Zen and Advaita Vedanta and made the gnosis plain in humorous talks. Listening to lectures from the 60's, one senses his timelessness by their uncanny relevance to the present.
@Matt, I’m ,moving to Zimbabwe in September to make a film about ending child marriages within some Apostolic sects there. If you are looking for what yo do with the rest of your life? I say COME TO AFRICA! No Cartesian divisions there, trust me [ps, I’m 55-it’s never too late, y’all!] love your passion, Oldest Matt
I lived in a suburb subdivision for about 8 years as a kid and I was starved for knowledge about figures like Jesus, Buddha, Lao Tzu, etc. It's pretty amazing how many lies are piled on top of each other and taught to kids. I can't blame capitalism for everything like a few people I've met though
Does anyone know what version of the Demiurge Kush is referring to? I'm familiar with the ones from Plato, Hermes Trismegistus, Aristotle, and some others but never this version where the demiurge is separate from the god who created everything or where the act that created our bodies is unrelated to the one that created soul, everything else, etc.
hey whats the Christman on Napoleon where he compares him to Tony Soprano w a wheel of cheese? i swear its not Age of Napoleon - much appreciated thanks
i would be really interested on your thoughts on stances on stuff Terrence McKenna has said on related topics (e.g. gnosticism, hope/future of humanity, dialectical interpretations/perspectives of/on a lot of the topics in hand)
I was thinking the same thing. Terrance had a pretty wild theory about the demiurge that he framed as “a good idea for a science fiction novel”, that when the Christ-consciousness hit our reality (whenever and in whatever form), it hit with such force that it forced an equal and opposite reaction in the creation of a counter-creative force to balance the causality. You don’t get a god in your reality without also getting a devil and vice-versa.
I literally spend approximately 90% of my Internet listening time split between listening to McKenna lectures on RU-vid (Shout out to We Plants Are Happy Plants) or podcasts (shout out Lorenzo from Psychedelic Salon), and listening to Chapo/Chapo-related podcasts and RU-vid vlogs like this. Alan Watts is a wonderful mind with a brilliant gift for oratory, but unfortunately he doesn’t have the hours upon hours upon hours of recorded lectures that McKenna or even the Chapos do. They’re still fantastic, of course
Isn’t it all just explained by evolution? Empathy, cooperation, aggression, hate, are primate biological drivers selected for by evolution that often conflict with each other. If the spiritual does not exist, a self aware primate will nonetheless interpret the world as containing good and evil.
@@bl1398 ''If the spiritual does not exist, a self aware primate will nonetheless interpret the world as containing good and evil.'' I agree with this, yes, but maybe disagree on how that hypothetical/counter-factual relates to the topics...?
Hahahaha tickles me that CushChat has been gaslighting our large son (we love him though don’t we folks?) about audio levels being too low from the very beginning. Get wellth soon’t big dawg ❤
I dont understand why he's always goin off on the internet when its like: dude u basically have a radio show... if u wanna exsist outside of the internet politics hamsterwheel, open a physical community radio station! Those places were/are great for all types of organizing.
Radio seems like such a step back in terms of actually reaching people, everyone is one youtube, how many people are checking out local access stations?
@@MegamaXX500 yeah but they already have such a big following and bring a lot of energy and young people to it. The community radio stations was always kinda like, only old people/people with car radio listen. But one thing they had right were the actual stations, where people got exposed to diverse perspectives from non-white communities and left anti media establishment left perspectives (and had the opportunity to communicate and organize physically)
