Democratic Detonation Primary Weapons Tierlist Helldivers 2 After Patch

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Here's an updated tierlist for the Democratic Detonation Warbond that was just added to Helldivers 2. We are listing the best primary and secondary weapons and best guns in Helldivers 2. The eruptor, the adjudicator, the explosive crossbow, the grenade pistol, and thermite grenades were all added with democratic detonation. These are the best weapons to use. These are just my thoughts on these weapons, I'm not always right. #helldivers2
00:00 Best Guns Tierlist
00:42 Explanation of current guns list
02:20 Thermite Grenades bugged/bad
02:38 Adjudicator
04:37 Eruptor
07:18 Explosive Crossbow
09:48 Grenade Pistol

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@thiccfila Месяц назад

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@megas1227 Месяц назад

the counter sniper is better now ,,medium armor pen,, good vs bots

@Phoenix42.0 Месяц назад

Is there a link to the tierlist we can look at??

@thiccfila Месяц назад

@@Phoenix42.0 just join the discord I posted it in there

@darthkarl99 Месяц назад

The core problem with most of the weapons in the mid category that have medium pen is the ammo. A slugger has enough ammo in the tubes to kill 3 Devastators/Hive Guard with the total ammo carried amounting to 15 kills. The Dominator has the same 3 kills worth in a single magazine, (with another 75% of a kill on top), and has reserves for 26 kills. The Adjudicator has just under (by one bullet), 2 kills per mag and a total across all mags of just under 12. (Note this assumes 100% accuracy) The Liberator Penetrator is considerably worse than that, as is the Diligence CS. But by their nature Automatic weapons tend to be a little less acurratte in practise due to effects of recoil than somthing your firing in semi-auto. So whilst all of these lose some killing potentiol to bad aim, the automatic fire takes even more from the Adjudicator yet its the one with the worst potentiol kills. It very quickly becomes the case that in the real world when shooting at medium targets that it doesn't have the ammo economy to be effective. This is a common problem across a huge percentage of the weapons in the game actually. Dealing with anything other than chaff bugs takes enormous amounts more ammo than chaff bugs, but a lot of weapons have less ammo than the chaff killers.

@pac1841 Месяц назад

I love how the Eruptor frees up you support weapon slot for a lighter weapon .

@TheQcjoe47 Месяц назад

Yhea I found that eruptor with rover backpack to help with the trash that get tru closer I could brind a stalwart or a flamer. My only weakness is ultra heavy enemy but I bring the expandable to have a solution and everyone is always running quasar anyway.

@komplex6081 Месяц назад

Eruptor doesn't two shot shrieker nests, bile titans nor 1 shotting chargers.

@flounder2760 Месяц назад

That's cool bugman. But some of us are fighting a robot invasion And making the med MG ornstakwart my primary and treating my primary as my support is quickly becoming a favorite... after all the charger is unique in that it is massive and fast.. on robots not even the hulk or tanks are that fast... stun grenades and MG to the back is good for hulks... and some heavy orbital or eagle strategems do the rest.... in fact the eagle airstrike is pretty consistent with taking out tanks and cannon towers. Sorry but meta isn't the same bugs to bots.

@flounder2760 Месяц назад

Ornstakwart was supposed to be or stalwart korean phone mangled it in auto correct.

@previcity1258 Месяц назад

@@flounder2760scorcher hulks running are i think same speed if not faster, also maybe scout striders/ raiders running

@jakecherry5770 Месяц назад

Couldn't agree more about the one-handed property for the crossbow, I looked to see if it had it. It would be insane with the shield!

@AnEnormousNerd Месяц назад

Seems unlikely they'll make this change though, considering it would require them to make new animations for reloading it one-handed.

@justinmartin4070 Месяц назад

Not gonna lie the crossbow is nuts with smaller enemies

@postman6553 Месяц назад

I thought it was going to be one handed too.

@Tsunamiatunzen1 Месяц назад

While I would love to have it with the shield and think it could give it a niche (doesn't feel as good to me when compared side by side with my bot-smashing plasma punisher), I'm not sure I could see them doing it when you consider the string might get in the way when it's lying against the shield. Also, not sure if the crossbow recocks itself (can't tell even if I ADS during the whole thing) but that could also be an issue if it doesn't.

@flakcannon722 Месяц назад

Crossbow is very unlikely to be made 1 handed. There are two 1 handed primarys weapons in the game files that haven't been released yet

@proape6052 Месяц назад

Eruptor is god tier on exterminate missions. There's a death spiral that happens in those missions where if your team starts dying, you can't get your support weapon back and you're practically helpless against devastators, hulks, and tanks and you're stuck trying to pick off the weaker enemies to complete the mission. With the Eruptor, you always spawn with a gun that you can use to clear out the serious threats.

@jermainesabajo7225 Месяц назад

I have that solo never with a team.

@christianwendt7852 Месяц назад

That's one Of the advantages of bringing the EAT

@ecuadorianbryan Месяц назад

Nope that trash tier

@Rairaichan Месяц назад

"Make the crossbow one-handed so it can be used with the ballistic shield" YES PLEASE!!!

@AliveDeejay Месяц назад

I don't think it's possible to cock a crossbow of that type with one hand, not even mentioning being able to reload it one-handed

@dremortis Месяц назад

Why are you using ballistic shield? Curious as I found it lack luster compared to energy shield

@PuffPuffPass123 Месяц назад

@@dremortisbetter against bots, while on your back you can't get hit from behind so it's great for getting tf out of there, plus it doesn't break

@Bamfony0 23 дня назад

Correction: It can break if shot with a tank shot or a laser cannon, and I believe possibly rockets. But, knowing this, you shouldn't be holding it up and running towards those targets and you should take them out smartly. You can also run alongside enemies with the shield held on the left and it'll block gunfire/lasers. As for all other small and medium firepower that doesn't explode, you're an unstoppable force. Ballistic Shield + Defender has been my favorite combo this past week. Heavy Devastators are NOTHING to you after you walk towards them and shoot their face or arm off.

@robbywoolums9071 Месяц назад

The eruptor truly transforms the game. Using the Eruptor effectively is basically just playing Doom with the quick swapping.

@s_t_r_a_y_e_d Месяц назад

the Eruptor actually makes the Stalwart make sense as a primary lol

@thiccfila Месяц назад

i like the medium machine gun a bit better cuz of the higher pen, and you can start to reload it while using the jump pack

@stryker0ae Месяц назад

@thiccfila feel like the reg med pen machine gun is a no brainer since it annihilates the devastators

@AnEnormousNerd Месяц назад

@@stryker0ae Yeah but the Eruptor already annihilates devastators.

@tobiasrex8052 Месяц назад

I usually ran Dominator+Stalwart ever since the Dom Buff already for the Med armor pen. This sniper is definitely a hit-run style once the difficulty ramps up the mobs at 7+ difficulties.

@nolimbsjohnny Месяц назад

@@AnEnormousNerd yeah but the MG43 looks badass. If I could run a loadout based purely on how cool the guns look it would be the Adjudicator and the MG43, unfortunately that combo would be trash lol

@Luxuriouswhite Месяц назад

The fact the Erupter can 1 shot armored spewers, stalkers and clear bug holes is absolutely insane. Easily favorite gun in the game for me

@guntermoritz7620 Месяц назад

Gonna call the thermite grenade the "flare" until they give it a buff 😂

@darzinth Месяц назад

This format is infinitely better than "S, A, etc"

@modestMousse 25 дней назад

Yeah, that format is B tier at best

@jamesthefront2246 23 дня назад

Agreed!

@Piratederp Месяц назад

Eruptor + Arc Thrower + Redeemer was a ton of fun vs bugs. No backpack needed, I would just leech a backpack off a team mate in the mission, didn't really matter which one, you can make use of any backpack. Lets you take 3 offensive stategems, I was taking Eagle Airstrike, 500kg bomb, and orbital rail cannon.

@thiccfila Месяц назад

W I like the precision strike a lot lately, but it suffers with orbital scatter

@squeezyjibbs6643 Месяц назад

@@thiccfila I used the Precision a lot when we were able to stun Titans. Now, not so much.

@connman8d617 Месяц назад

I just can't justify taking orbital rail cannon in my load outs. Even if it one-shotted a bile titan every time (which it doesn't) it would still amount to 1 heavy kill every 3 minutes. On the highest difficulties, heaviest can spawn way more often than that. So, instead of leaning on rail cannon strike as a crutch, it's much better to learn how to consistently handle titans with something like the EAT, Spear, Quasar, Recoilless because those strategems are not hampered by cool downs.

@Piratederp Месяц назад

@@connman8d617 Titans are super easy to kill with 500kg. Rail Cannon is just for the occasional annoying chargers that are causing issues. As the Arc Thrower itself can kill them pretty decently. I've played with the EAT and Quasar plenty, getting a 1 shot on a charger head is easy. I just don't want to be bothered to call in weapons, pick them up, kill the heavy, then pick back up my arc thrower in that setup. I'd rather just delete it with my Rail Cannon and be done with it. And I only every play on high difficulties.

@SoraTheKobold Месяц назад

the Eruptor is really fun, im happy it wasn't underwhelming like i was expecting it to be also hi :3

@thiccfila Месяц назад

hi sora :D

@jontaro5200 Месяц назад

What do you pair the eruptor with?

@thiccfila Месяц назад

medium support weapons, auto cannon, laser cannon, AMR, machine guns, etc. not with rocket launchers basically.

@TheManWithNoHands Месяц назад

@@jontaro5200It's quite a meaty gun, so probably a relatively young, fuller-bodied wine. Maybe some Zinfandel if you're not much of a red wine enjoyer.

@majorastorm Месяц назад

The grenade pistol is a game changer my #1 pick for all builds

@GameFuMaster Месяц назад

unless if you're running eruptor, then it's machine pistol again

@sinteleon Месяц назад

All builds that does not include eruptor, since eruptor can also clear bugholes/fabs regardless.

@MsMoendli Месяц назад

Thank you! i like the list format a lot! Its my first shooter and i understand now a bit better in what situation i can use the diffrent weapons! i was so confused at the start, you sorted it out men, bless you

@Spykitty358 Месяц назад

the thing said about the BR-14 is exactly how i thought of the weapon. It's recoil and damage is fine for me and i do kill things rather quickly however the ammo count is what really kills it a good portion of the time. It's reload time is relatively fast but if your going to have less ammo in the mag at least make up for it with damage. I do hope they buff the DMR's and maybe give the BR-14 the current Diligence damage profile and buff the other 2. But now you might think it would just be a better Penetrator and sure it would. However maybe they can make the Penetrator more accurate making it suitable at long range. Because i see the BR-14 like a SCAR-H. Yes it can fire in full auto but it's not nearly as accurate in the recoil department as the AR's. But it also means it can shred in close quarters. I think the BR-14 has the problem of if it's buffed it might just become completely better then this or that so if your going to buff that, you'll have to buff other guns as well to maintain diverse weapon options.

@avocadoc1292 Месяц назад

It does give me some shred of hope for the DMRs that AH asked about the state of DMRs in their Discord. I'd like 5 more rounds and critical hit damage for the Diligence rifles to cement them as precision rifles, and slightly more damage, 5 more rounds and maybe 40% less recoil for the BR-14.

@CaptainGreenTea Месяц назад

The recoil on the BR14 is horrible. Cant double tap without armor buff amd still takes over a full clip to kill a berserker even with head shots.

@avocadoc1292 Месяц назад

@@CaptainGreenTea slightly unrelated but I normally aim for the abdomen when shooting Berserkers, I find it much more consistent and the AMR two shots there

@thehollowlingwin Месяц назад

@CaptainGreenTea I don't know about that, I tested it against some stunned Berserkers on semi, and it only takes two hits to their head

@Spykitty358 Месяц назад

Yea i am hopeful that we see a widespread DMR buff. The thing i hate the most about the recoil is that it just doesn't do enough damage to warrant such a recoil. An example of a hard hitting gun with slow rate of fire and brutal recoil is in Planetside 2 if you play as the New Conglomerate. The Gauss SAW is one of the best guns in that game and has the highest damage but an arm breaking recoil. But that's it's trade off, it's hard to control and has a learning curve but mastering it has the benefit of having some of the highest DPS you can have in a weapon. As of right now the BR-14 Adjudicator just doesn't hit hard enough to make that recoil feel fitting. At the end of the day the full auto portion of the weapon is more tuned for close quarters because i always tap fire when i shoot at range. Also yea i find it's easier to kill berserkers by shooting them in the abdomen as well.

@destroyerneb8600 Месяц назад

The eruptor can also blow up bug holes and fabricators

@reptilianrain1732 Месяц назад

Honestly first watching the teaser for this war bond drop I assumed the crossbow was a 1 handed gun

@vik1837 Месяц назад

Thanks for the video as always! Any tips on the aim with the Grenada pistol for the bug holes?

@AlexDenton0451 Месяц назад

The Eruptor being able to destroy Fabricators and Big Holes with a direct hit basically makes it my favorite weapon in the game.

@Mushroom-gv5rw Месяц назад

I like the format you have for roles instead of tiers, and then the ordering for a rough preference for the role - especially since the majority of the weapons in the game really do have genuine utility if you enjoy using them and pick your other slots to balance any shortcomings

@Raso719 20 дней назад

I think this was the most positive review of the Adjudicator I've seen on RU-vid. Fighting Automotons with i feel like Medium armor penetration is a must and the Adjudicator feels great for taking out mid sized bots. But it absolutely needs more ammunition, either a bigger mag or more mags.

@DarkLess89X Месяц назад

the adjudicator is really beautiful to use, the feeling that the recoil gives and the sound, finally a fun machine gun with a cool aiming reticle, against insects I found it definitely more useful than against automatons but it has problems and needs of a retouch, in my opinion it should do some more damage especially against automatons, to have more bullets in the magazine and above all to have a greater maximum capacity of total maximum bullets. Basically it does no damage against automatons and against insects it doesn't have enough ammunition to be completely reliable. I really hope they give it the buff hdeserves.

@jellyboom9981 Месяц назад

I’m running the Eruptor and the Stalward as my primary weapon, it’s a crazy good load-out

@Olddata87 Месяц назад

Totally agree with this new tiers list! Good job

@BattousaiTheSeeker 26 дней назад

I’ve found that the key to the crossbow is learning how to anticipate WHERE your target will be when you fire that bolt. The sight helps predict the path of the bolt, so lining up on the enemy is the main tip. Finally to ensure a hit, make sure that your target is always IN THE CENTER OF YOUR SCREEN. (Same logic works with grenades)

@h67_ Месяц назад

When selecting ur gun always compliment it with your support, works well for me. Choosing the new sniper esq gun, and pair it with a stalwart

@greatbrandini3967 Месяц назад

I absolutely hated the crossbow when I first tried it, but after playing around with it, I realized it's a more weildy, baby version of the Eruptor. Once you get a feel for it and know how to position while using it, it can be an absolute monster

@Guardian037 27 дней назад

Totally agree. I actually prefer it over the Eruptor. More mags, shorter reload, wider AoE (I think) and slightly more flat damage. However, I do think it's Explosive damage is bugged against Spewers, takes me 3 shots to kill a Spewer while hitting weak spots, that shouldn't be the case with its damage.

@rapatouille Месяц назад

you do a great job explaining the situational uses of the weapons to newbies like me! the classic s to f tier format is good but i agree, this format is better.

@flounder2760 Месяц назад

My favorite part of the eruptor right now is the splash damage effect is bugged... if you fire it into a robot standing right in front of you a micro blackhole forms sucking you to the bots feet in ragdoll formation. Basically the ragdollneffect is inverted instead of blowing you away from the point of explosion.

@squeezyjibbs6643 Месяц назад

That's most explosives right now, not only the Eruptor. AC and Scorcher have the same issue, for example.

@ShadowofProvidence Месяц назад

I like the new formatting. Clearly defined roles and from left to right best to worst.

@Legacy0901 Месяц назад

The Adjudicator definitely needs a small damage buff, the only thing it's notable at is mowing down hunters because they rely on dodging and the Adjudicator is good at staying on target but the gun feels so awful when it frequently takes multiple shots just to kill one baby scavenger. It also has the same problem with the counter sniper where the medium pen just does not compensate for the low base damage, like great you do full damage against Devastators but it's still going to take an entire magazine to bring down ONE so how much value are you REALLY getting out of it?

@bodingus160 27 дней назад

just had a question, what are your graphics settings? i like how the game looks on your end.

@fordsrgay4881 Месяц назад

Got a triple strider kill with one eruptor shot and was like aieeeeeeet. Plus it destroys fabricators. New fave fosho

@TaskMaster5 Месяц назад

I found out today it CAN kill the attack drone/ship things from the fabricators. This gun is NUTS.

@aaronblank6280 Месяц назад

im gonna be honest havent seen your other videos but this tier list format is the best I have seen would love to maybe see the stategem secondaries on this list (or a similar one) this way people can compare weapons the fill in the what they need from their chosen primaries.

@black_n5492 26 дней назад

I love bringing the Eruptor with the Stalwart. Eruptor for picking off larger enemies from mid to far range, and the stalwart for swarms of lighter enemies. Then the redeemer as back up if I get caught out without mags in either of the main guns.

@NotpinkFlamingo Месяц назад

It certainly would be nice to have some more variety in one-handed weapons. As someone who likes using the ballistic shield, the only weapons I have available that aren't sidearms are just 2 submachine guns: the Defender and the Knight. The Knight was only available through preorder, so the majority of players only have the Defender to use. We need the sawn-off double barrel shotgun or laser SMG from the first game to make a return.

@enso8379 Месяц назад

I like this format better, helps keeps things in perspective.

@sethburrowes1525 Месяц назад

Something to mention, is that the Eruptor actually also can take out bug holes and fabricators. So if you bring that you also do not need to bring the grenade pistol.

@emilsingapurcan8054 Месяц назад

One thing i wouldve loved with the crossbow aside from yhat which you said, is to have a nonexplosive bolt that deals lots of damage. A pure silent option that could feasibly take out the back enemy in a group without alerting them, or near-miss with minimal or no alert. Would complement stealth gameplay

@mathieugirod6485 Месяц назад

The Defender SMG with a ballistic shield and the buffed anti material rifle is a god sent against the bots. This little SMG can clear the chaff really well and can even be used to clean the devastators if needed. As for the anti-material rifle, thanks to its buff killing devastators and hulks is a walk in the park. The big downside of course is against the tanks but even that can be solved by emptying a clip of the AMR in the back of the turret, if it cannot be done a simple orbital railgun can do the trick. This coupled with the "-50% explosive damage and -30% recoil when prone" armors has become my go to build for the bots. You were 100% right about it Thiccfila, it's a really fun loadout and good enough so little lvl12 me can go play with the big boys at difficulty 7 or higher.

@Zane12ai Месяц назад

Hounestly, if your running a ballistic shield build, for one your obviously a bot stomper, but for 2, bringing stuns is kinda redundant. You can already tank everything. Bringing impacts is better against both types of tanks, and the only thing that really poses a threat to YOU is Melee hulks. And at that point, just bring a quasar cannon and call I a day.

@fetroch373 23 дня назад

this format is great! I personaly don't use the tier - list webside but a small improvement would be 3 sub catagories with great | does the job | needs a buff.

@midnightsavage 25 дней назад

Good tip if nobody has noticed , the eruptor allows you to destroy fabricators and hives without spawning many bugs or bots during the process

@lejenddairy Месяц назад

Where have the factory striders gone? I haven’t seen them since the new bot offensive.

@ZzVinniezZ Месяц назад

the crossbow is just Plasma shotgun in disguised with more damage also a tip for those who want to use it...strafe left and right will send the arrows / bolts further to the strafe direction (off center of where you aiming) so if u want more accurate shot, stand still

@philliphart6327 Месяц назад

Nice tiers. I would like to see you add secondary weapons to that list too because ultimately they’re used to balance the same equation of roles.

@Tsaigos Месяц назад

I will double-check, but I was told by my friends who used the explosive primaries, but they can close bug holes and fabricators. Definitely worth a check but

@thiccfila Месяц назад

Just eruptor but I honestly suspect that'll be removed

@Randaddy25 Месяц назад

The breaker incendiary kicks ass now. I use it all the time for bugs.

@400KrispyKremes Месяц назад

I've found that any primary weapon that has explosive will work out well against the bots.

@B-U-T-C-H-E-R Месяц назад

Scortcher for bots, breaker incendiary for bugs, all you need. I do enjoy running diligence counter sniper and anti material rifle, with autocannon sentry against bots, and I go off on my own looting and clearing objectives, from long range. I run the armor that gives me throwing range to land orbitals right on top of objectives from farther out. It's actually really fun playstyle, and I save my teammates all the time from far away

@TheQcjoe47 Месяц назад

I didn't have alot of game with the crossbow and it felt like a worst plasma puni but while testing I found that if you blow the belly of a bile titan, usually weapon stop doing damage after it pop. The crossbow still give me red x

@tkdk934 Месяц назад

Arch thrower tip: aim above enemies for headshots on automatons. I flick up after aiming at them just to ensure it. Headshots go crazy on destroyers and hulks.

@jaywerner8415 Месяц назад

As a Reminder, the JUSTICE is considered a Marksmen Rifle in HD2, at least according to Leak Photos. Vs it was the Best AR in HD 1. (which isn't saying much when you have 3 guns per weapon type)

@TheBee35 Месяц назад

I think an interesting take on the crossbow would be to give it a slight nerf but then make it a one handed secondary. As is it’s a bit too beefy to be one but with a slight nerf I think it would fit in well as like a mini crossbow secondary. I think we could use some more selection in the secondary categories and if it was one handed it would pair great with the shield. Though just making it one handed as a primary would also be great to see. Need more love for the shield

@kozie78 Месяц назад

This is a good tier list format. 👍

@Dragonheardt 26 дней назад

Thanks for the tips, Rainn Wilson. (You sound like Rainn Wilson)

@evagelios Месяц назад

I am sad about the Crossbow. I got it last night and I at the VERY LEAST expected it to take out container doors, but it doesnt =\

@thiccfila Месяц назад

I don't think any primary guns are supposed to tbf. The eruptor currently does but don't be surprises if that gets taken away.

@Canis.Lupus.Arctos Месяц назад

I would agree, only I kinda partially do... My own tier list is based on fun aspect... Eruptor used as a shotgun, works very well, but as a sniper (as says on the tin) is very underwhelming specially cuz it has a up-to 200m scope and yet the projectiles explodes way B4 that distance (maybe under 100m.. all DMRs need some love TBH...

@JRGProjects Месяц назад

My play style is run and gun or as I call it Clone Wars 2003 Style. - Lt or Medium Engineer Armor - Liberator - Bots - Dominator - Bugs - Grenade Pistol (standard) - Impact Grenade Strat weapons - Quasar or Laser or Nade Launcher - Bots - EATs or Recoilless Rifle - Bugs - Shield Backpack (Always unless I run the Rifle) - Depending on the mission type will be my final strat choice.

@KFP_Insanity Месяц назад

I don't know what to do with this information but wouldn't it be cool if thermites had a secondary use like being able to blow up the friendship bunkers when playing solo... I dunno just seems like wasted loot and a good opportunity to fix that xD Somebody get this to the devs/reddit or whatever. xD

@scorpion563 Месяц назад

11:30 My only gripe about the grenade pistol is that it cant one shot bile spewers, which for me is a dealbreaker for me in most mission rypes, otherwise feels really good to use

@ZuilzonDTD Месяц назад

Yeah the Adjudicator feels like an inbetween of a marksmen and the Lib Pen. and it's fine, it can two tap devs to the head but as someone else pointed out the bullet hitboxes feel extremely small as the margin of error is hilariously low for what counts as a headshot or a miss. Frankly, it may just need a bullet size increase and maybe a bullet velocity bump because it is a bit slow.

@Raven5431 Месяц назад

With eruptor I do have to say on bot drops I've actually gotten an 18 kill with 1 shot on a full raider shipment lol. When they are clustered together it is nice. More consistently though expect 3 kills per shot. Great for clearing mg bunkers 1 shot kills all 3 raiders most of the time if you get the guys standing in the middle. I do think though this weapon is not for the faint of heart. But i am honestly enjoying it more than the AMR even with the really slow reload and bullet velocity.

@dr.frankensquirter Месяц назад

Great thing about Helldivers 2 is once you play the game enough you realize there is no meta. Ive seen people get hundreds of kills with all kinds of loadouts. It really comes down to your skill, and play style.

@dh1148ify 19 дней назад

The only emplacement stratagems that I like seeing my teammates pick are EMS-mortar or shield. Miss me with that other stuff lol.

@Dysmorphyx_ Месяц назад

Something that hell divers 2 needs next is to add in more variety for the EXO suits, I know that there is already a auto canon one on the way and there’s one that’s currently being worked on that has a flamethrower, but I feel like instead of different variations of exo suits being stratagems, they should add a whole new area inside of the ship where you can customize the look and play style of your EXO suit that way each one is truly unique. Also, something else that would be cool for them to add would be a semiotic damage, dealing pistol like a desert eagle.

@inqufox1750 Месяц назад

sniper can clear bug holes and bot fabs as well

@Kainlarsen Месяц назад

Adjudicator needs a buff, definitely. It has its uses, but is seriously underpowered. Eruptor is deadly, but too slow. Better to take a Stalwart to use as primary if you take it with you. Haven't played with the crossbow yet, but I heard it's not very good. Dunno if anyone else has mentioned it already, but I hope they introduce some kind of weapon customisation mechanic later.

@Raven5431 Месяц назад

Eruptor I was not sure about it at first but the more I played with it the more I was like dam I kinda like this thing. It does have some sort of max range though where it explodes before getting to target and slow bullet velocity so have to lead targets but still really good. Slapped a 200m scope on it and was bouncing around helping people struggling with devastators and striders. 1 shoting striders was like muah magnificent and then finding out the explosion actually did destroy fabricators tiped it to awsome. Then I got the crossbow and went meh ok idk maybe bugs but not bots I have to aim all the way to bottom of scope to get good range just don't see why use it at the moment.

@YolStrun Месяц назад

A big downside with the Crossbow is it can't destroy things. Won't close Bug Holes, Wont destroy Fabricators, Can't even destroy a container door. If it got the abillity to do that it would be great arcing the bolts into the holes from 100m away

@solonwilliams1965 Месяц назад

The CS is in the perfected spot right now. It can one tap medium when used precisely and can clear automan chaff like a medium machine with good positioning. Its not as good against bugs, but I think its one of the best for bots.

@projectTyrasa Месяц назад

Real talk if they want the Adjudicator to be Peak. They could Keep the Lower Dmg but give it a Deeper Magazine and lower the Recoil to being like or Nearly like the Sickle High Fire Rate with Pinpoint Accuracy for Perfect Sniping lending it Sniping ability requiring 2-3 shots for targets the Diligence family can 1-tap. You trade that 1-tap dmg for having a variable target weapon going between sniping and Crowd clearing.

@sinteleon Месяц назад

instead of bringing a weapon to clear chaff, you can bring a guard dog instead, since you really only need to clear chaff close to you, further chaff can be blown up by the aoe.

@aaronutley Месяц назад

I don't HATE the ADJ's recoil, but it should be less random in semi. If they make it more consistent and either up DMG or CAP, it would be sweet

@devinmiley1710 Месяц назад

Grenade launcher. Impact, sickle, grenade pistol ammo back pack. Great at clearing mid to light enemies and bases rapidly from good cover, height or ambush

@Pat2KciRTaP Месяц назад

1:26 That whack made me spit my water out. 😂😂

@LeveleUpGaming Месяц назад

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@thiccfila Месяц назад

Our pleasure!

@jadendenfeld9980 Месяц назад

The eruptor can also destroy bot fabricators and gunships, haven't tested it on nests or heavy bugs yet though

@apogee28 Месяц назад

Great tier list!

@slayerjs2383 Месяц назад

As a stun grenade main the nade pistol kinda covers up not dealing w bugholes to an extent

@JonathanNakhla Месяц назад

I don’t see why you’d wanna do something like the animation canceling. Doesn’t it cheapen the experience? And if you rely on it too much, it’ll eventually get patched no?

@SnakeNbake Месяц назад

Lol

@thehollowlingwin Месяц назад

Honestly, I'm just happy to find a video where someone didn't put the Adjudicator in absolute trash tier lol On console, the recoil while standing and moving is pretty unmanageable, but if you tap fire, it while it's in full auto you can still land shots

@goldbrickgangboss 29 дней назад

Biggest downside I've had for the eruptor is that, if I die to hunter swarms and lose my stalwart, I'm relying on the redeemer to get it back. It sucks against hunters. Love that it can do much of the nest destruction so I don't feel like I need the autocannon all the time though. If they nerf the eruptor I hope it is just to the total ammo and not to the weapon power. The game needs a weapon like this. Also, the crossbow should blow up nests too imo.

@johnm9263 Месяц назад

the incendiary weapon is designed for covering as many enemies in fire as possible, and waiting the knight is literally a side-grade to the default SMG, its literally just a higher fire rate, and more bullets it works better against smaller enemies, whereas the default SMG works better against larger enemies

@ADUSN Месяц назад

I like the adjudicator a lot but it could use some help

@SoFCeO Месяц назад

Eruptor, grenade pistol or auto pistol, stun grenades. Eagle airstrike, orbital railcannon, shield gen/whatever, laser cannon/whatever.

@zun-viik Месяц назад

I need more one handed weapons Or maybe a heavy armor perk that helps (I'm think how in Alien they have the smart gun )

@black_thunder2159 Месяц назад

ajudicator for me i just love it cuz the way it looks like a basic ass rifle, and it has its own charm, looking great.

@ProRexZilla273 Месяц назад

Yeah I like this tier list

@scehr Месяц назад

I love the Eruptor but it falls a bit short against things like Hulks, which deflect its bullets when they hit directly. Anyone had any better experiences with Eruptor vs heavies?

@thiccfila Месяц назад

it doesnt penetrate the face plate, you have to hit it on the back or ricochet from an enemy behind it

@EmpyreanM Месяц назад

That seems to be an intended shortfall, even against heavy weak spots it falls short of just using an anti heavy. If it handled heavies well, it would just make anti heavy supports pointless. It is right on the tip of being able to harm heavies with smart usage, which I think is a good place for a primary to be.

@TaskMaster5 Месяц назад

Autocannon or rail gun for your support weapon. That shores up the weakness the Eruptor has. It'll clear tanks and Hulks for you. Both the autocannon or eruptor can handle the attack drones from the fabricators. Those two weapons should have nothing stopping them beyond AT-AT walkers if you happen to run into them.

@sinteleon Месяц назад

@@TaskMaster5 I've also heard good things about the laser cannon; while the laser cannon cannot shut down tanks as easily, it's significnatly better against gunships, and also functions very well as chaff clear.

@Foxador Месяц назад

You can kill chargers with the Eruptor but it's very inconsistent, and I don't mean by taking off it's butt. I've taken them out from the front but it can be anything from two shots to 8 shots, I'm not sure what the secret is to it

@carlwei 29 дней назад

Good format but I would love if you could call out the names of all the weapons at the end and why they're at that tier. I haven't played enough to be able to tell from just your photos, and it's a big ask to have new viewers like me to go back and watch all the past tier list videos just to get some continuity.

@thiccfila 29 дней назад

just trust theyre at that tier in my opinion. some people may shift some around slightly, but i think generally most would agree with 95%. also I commented all the weapons in response to someone else, i think if u look u could find it quick, ill look as well and reply with all the names orderd

@thiccfila 29 дней назад

I'll list them in order including the new weapons from the list at the very end: Eruptor, Scorcher, Dominator, Plasma Punisher Breaker Incendiary, Sickle, Explosive Crossbow, Defender, Breaker, Breaker Spray and Pray Punisher, Slugger, Dilligence Adjudicator, Liberator, Liberator Penetrator, Scyther, Blitzer, Dilligence Counter Sniper, Concussive Liberator Knight Grenade Pistol, Redeemer, Senator, Dagger, Peacekeeper

@Frostmired Месяц назад

1:27 WHAT DID BRO DO? 😭

@ninjacow 28 дней назад

Hold on, that map at 10:50 is insane. Just a straight(ish) line of POIs?

@netrunner7108 25 дней назад

Dude, the first time I used crossbow I was only sad it does not close bug holes and isn't one handed. Same thoughts

@BETRvids 29 дней назад

Have to agree with the crossbow. Even before finding this video, I felt like the crossbow should have been a one-handed weapon. Because as you said, there aren't enough one-handed weapons. And as someone who does enjoy using the ballistic shield, I often get tired of having only the defender as my sole weapon option.

@Foxador Месяц назад

I honestly thought that the xbow would have one handed when I saw it since it's so tiny, I was very disappointed to find out that it's somehow a two handed weapon

@op_jazz Месяц назад

ok, been using the Eruptor and couldn't figure out why the enemies were flying at me when they exploded. got it

@maryceleste_aghost Месяц назад

I think they should change category dominator. After some youtubers test, we have result this thing can't deal full damage to weak spot of heavy enemies. That is mean this is only grenade launcher shot slug, not boltor like eruptor

@jaywerner8415 Месяц назад

Hopefully in the Future they add the Tanto (laser SMG) and the Ninja (basically a MP5D) in the future for those Ballistic shield mains.

@macandcheeseofficial Месяц назад

The Adjudicator should just get either a better scope or less recoil. The crosshairs are so hard to see that when you can manage the recoil perfectly (Prone, ADS, and recoil armor), you’ll still miss because the bots have glowing red eyes that are bigger than your red center dot.