Well, he did create that batshit society. So it stands to reason

@@HarryBalzak Definitely but I think its more than that. He could tell Cocteau was lying about his having released Spartan intentionally; if he had, the guy wouldn't have caught up with him and nearly captured him so easily. All of this implied that the guy wasn't nearly as in control of the situation as he believed himself to be not to mention that he couldn't afford to brainwash too many other guys or he'd be discovered.

One Psychopath with experience of manipulating people vs a genuinely predatory psychopath with extensive experience of violence, criminality and manipulation. The idiot even trained him further, making him far more dangerous.

@@Tuberuser187 I think Phoenix is more of a sociopath (openly ignores laws of morality) but I get the idea.

@@elnombredelarosa3167 Psychopaths ignore conventional morality, the difference between a psychopath and sociopath is that the sociopath generally does not go out of their way to purposely manipulate people and just do whatever pleases them in a way that's totally self absorbed and doesn't see or care for the harm they cause in their pursuit of amoral or immoral goals. They generally lack long term planning as well, they live very much moment to moment. Psychopaths generally have a greater tendency towards machiavellianism, even when it isnt quite at the degree of the separate machiavellian trait and are usually much more aware of the harm they cause and simply don't care and even consider it before they act or plan. Worse is when they trend towards a Sadistic Personality Disorder with this, I would say Phoenixes taunting of his victims shows he is on the spectrum of those traits too though Sociopaths can have that trait as well. Hes a poster child of the Dark Triad altogether really.

I call it the "SJW Machine"

It's hilarious xD

That gag always gets me

If one takes nothing else from this as a film, that attention to detail and level of commitment is to be admired!

More like the “annoying swear jar machine”

He probably reprogrammed that too.

You are smart!

“Unintended consequences”…

Especially when a psychopath does not like taking orders. You are correct.

@@drewyetti bad attitude

Phoenix should have said, “Ok, man! Damn!” Lol

He is awesome 😎 actors my all time favourite one 😍

I don't know why he didn't like doing this role when he did so great...

Nappa of the sayian squad was not too bad too

Although nowadays when people walk into rooms the light just turns on automagically.

@Quentin Lennox deluminate is not a new word. can be seen in books from 1902 at least

@Quentin Lennox Or maybe they are hinting "Illuminati" here.

Whole thread of folks need to resonate some understanding.

Fancier

So he's a Mad Dog Killer type and one them Motherfuckers from New York.

My favorite line in the movie

Orlando. He was born in beu=autiful Orlando

​@@ronaldojohnny7774But raised in The Bronx, NYC. Where I lived from 6th to 7th grade a long time ago.😎😎 My guy one of Hollywood's best actors with a martial arts background in Shotokan Karate, Hapkido, kickboxing, BJJ, Capoeira and trained with a Monk in Shaolin Kung-Fu in Manhattan, not far from where I lived. Crawled so superhero cinema could walk, yes sir.🙏⚔️🗡️😎OG Blade

Bzzzt "You have been fined one credit for violation of the verbal morality statute."

I just noticed that too

LOL. That's gold. Under-rated comedy.

Same thing. And it's amazing that a total surveilance and control thing was present in 1993's movie. Now we see it growing in reality.

I dunno HAL, hard to say.

No HAL, I don’t feel in charge.

Cocteau: “But i unfroze you and have you skills.” Phoenix: “So that gives you power over me?”

Simon Phoenix, you are fined one credit for violation of the verbal parameter statute.

I wonder whos job it is to refill the tickets in those machine?

his dudeness83 I thought it was verbal morality statute?

i laugh every time!!

& 1:27 too

Amazon Alexa

Simon didn't say

i say "hey google, illuminate 10%" because of this scene

Harley Davidson and the Marlboro man

Oh, but he found the loophole for that, even if that was implemented.

Simon might have hired some people from the underground! That's one theory of mine!

That's one size of a fireplace to cook a pot of broth on.

@@nicktechnubyte1184 bit i thought he did that

He did. And brainwashing has its limitations.

Mr. Infinite rigggghhhhhttt they should have given him that role .

@@ladyofachievement6077 they can still do it, they make a new Joker every few years.

I thought the same

Nah he'd be the perfect Blade and have a trilogy

Jokers not black

Why did he dislike them?

@@number3stunner118 He hadn't done many movies prior to this, mostly stage and British TV. Like most British actors of his generation, he felt many big time American actors hadn't earned their bones by doing extensive theater work. Also, even back then Snipes and Stallone could be difficult to work with.

@@johnbertrand7185 He would have hated working with Steven Seagal even more……

@@johnbertrand7185 Actually makes sense, even today many British actors are classically trained whereas American actors just audition.

What I always found interesting is this sentiment has really died down to obscurity since nowadays many prominent actors tend to respect eachother overall, at least between the extremely gifted/talented regardless of past experience or "official theatre experience".

Yep!

Makes sense he would. Likely stole it off a scrap he killed. Probably was terrible armor wise, but Phoenix probably preferred the look to his simple plane shirt and overalls.

@@hisdudeness8328 considering the police of the time carried batons with electrical discharges, it makes a lot of sense armor wise.

I mean, he spent the first chunk of his time being unfrozen wearing osh-kosh so it is a good upgrade.

@@ComicalHealing good point. The city dwellers always consider the scraps to be subhuman and lacking serious intelligence. Clearly their arrogant prejudices were sorely off about the scraps capabilities.

You inspire joy-joy feelings with this post.

Then you dyed your hair blond.//

😂😂😂

Awesome

Quite a step up from cabinet Secretary to Dictator of LA

Yep.

WoW

Pc culture has destroyed pretty much everything

Sir Humphrey in his spare time?

I was writing a comment but yours is much better I salute you good sir.

Well said

Does this mean you've figured out how to use the three sea shells? Could be useful when the toilet paper runs out. Asking for a friend, by the way.

I don’t

@@number3stunner118 i know how to solve the toilet paper, just get a bidet

And the coronavirus. Notice on how kissing was frowned upon and the hand wave toward each other instead of high five?

​@@number3stunner118The seashells are self-explanatory: first you poop, then you scoop.

It is possible he did not have time to do it or in order to do so, he would have to do it surreptitiously!

rly only 2 choices as 2 y cocteau didnt -- total oversight [less likely] or arrogance figgerin simon wuldnt exploit such a loophole [more likely]

He was able to/thought of it/remembered when it came to reprogramming Simon, but I welcome any thoughts on this.

The movie doesn’t really explain how the cryo rehab works, but we can safely assume that you can’t just add to it and have it finished overnight. It probably takes a long time. Both Phoenix and Spartan were frozen for decades before being defrosted. Raymond’s was around for years still before then. He had plenty of time to alter Phoenix’s rehab and have it take affect.

@@ExploreGamesAndMore fair ... which reinforces my latter choice -- cocteau simply felt simon wuld not 'outsource' &/or cops wuld sumhow apprehend & re-freeze simon directly afta simon killed edgar /shrug

Ah, but you repeat yourself.

If you don't see him as a villain in that you are naive and exactly what is wrong with this country

why not use a light switch. did you miss the point of the movie. "if people outsource their individual determination to machines and governments they become useless"

Spare me.

Cultural Marxism is all about double-speak and the media loves doing it! They also love manipulative language and words like 'may', 'could' when talking about how offensive words are. 'Progressive' is the opposite for example.

@@spinzig But with no real examples. Piss off.

​@@Ragitsu You're too low IQ to notice the many around you all the time I guess. There's only 2 kinds of people that promote garbage; naive and sinister. Which are you?

😂😂

That was already a given. Shit, somewhere in here there's also an all seeing eye. The Taco Bell is a dead giveaway now that they've come out with their Illuminati ad. This was also predictive programming for Wesley Snipes going to prison. They knew they had to do that or the shock would be too great and we'd all make tire armor for ourselves and bust him out.

You know what’s crazy about it? Alexa is exactly like the tech they have, she’s always listening which is pretty creepy,shit I don’t even trust Siri cuz I know she’s listening, and with that same tech the government can listen to every convo we have like the time the cops used Alexa to solve a murder case the cops realized Alexa was in the house they replayed the audio it had on record and solved the case or some shit like that

"Hey Google"

@@ThaoNguyen-dp9zc I actually take advantage of that and have said things to my Samsung Galaxy "I know you're listening Google, these errors [like a video randomly pausing when I didn't hit pause] are bullshit so why haven't you fixed them. You have that all money and RU-vid is glitching?" Maybe if they hear enough bitching, things will get fixed.

My favorite line in the movie.

And giving him skills and attributes of an assassin surely didn’t help.

He could have just very well defrosted Spartan himself.

@@KeltonTitan Spartan would have probably joined them.

@@LandersWorkshop You scared me, thought you were counter-responding to one of my other-video controversial comments lol

@@KeltonTitan Nah, just this one here my dude.

You right-wing chodes are puh-fhucking-thetic and _so easy to spot_ ! For people that clamor about individuality, you are all very alike.

@metalgearhead99 *Weybay chin rub gif

Lowkey I was too. 😆

My first choice was John Spartan, but if if I had to choose between Cocteau and Phoenix, I'd choose the latter

Phoenix was actually standing up for what's right by having him killed. I wonder if he still would have, and so quickly, if he hadn't heard him plan to become a dictator who wouldn't let people be themselves.

Considering Andrew Ryan is a socialist yet grossly mislabeled as a libertarian, I'd tend to agree with you since Cocteau is also a socialist.

most totalitarians do [!!]

Especially a lose cannon like him. He should have had a goon squad army already setup for protection.

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He had no plan for what to do about Phoenix if he became a problem (when he knew he was literally thawing him so that he'd be a problem). I mean, what was he going to do, shoot Phoenix himself?

Jose, did you recover from that stroke you had while posting?

metalgearhead99 yeah Cocteau was definitely the villain imo

Dr Coctaeu=Bill Gates

Really? I think Spartan surviving was a good result. Better than both dying and it staying lame AF forever.

You right-wing chodes are puh-fhucking-thetic and _so easy to spot_ ! For people that clamor about individuality, you are all very alike.

@@Ragitsu I like how a simple off handed comment managed to fill you with such anger and disharmony. Yet you claim to be above political stereotypes.

@@cultofthevoid5677 It's not "off handed" or in any way random when it fills your brainspace on a continual basis.

@@Ragitsu You're making some pretty strong assumptions there considering it was a joke about his attire, not to mention, I may be center right but I'm also a Luciferian, which is the epitome of what most right wingers hate. I don't have to defend myself to either them, nor you though. You should focus on something other than politics.

@@cultofthevoid5677 You get what you give. Make comments about conspiracy theories born from obese amygdalas and don't be surprised when people point out the ridiculousness.

Probably a nod to the East coast - west coast beef?

@@tanveerhasan2382 yeah lol

This movie was of course years before that happened, so it's basically another prediction that it got right. And the restaurants are closing, so I hope everybody likes Taco Bell.

yeah strange isn't it?

I'm guessing he might of picked it up, unless it was tossed into the fire.