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Demolitions and propping for your home extension…… all you need to know.. how to do it 

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Have you ever wondered how steel beams are put into an existing house without the walls above falling down? And who is it that decides how it’s demolished ?
Usually you have a choice been using acrow props and needles, or acrow props with strong boys.
I’ll take you through the steps to help you choose, as well as the pitfalls to avoid when choosing your builder.
For the design process for something like this, to get a structural engineer and submit to get permissions and building warrant see my other video
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@cfgman9176
@cfgman9176 Год назад
Probably the best video i have seen on structural works....your comments on strong boys are spot on !
@build-better-things
@build-better-things Год назад
Thank you for your comment. Really appreciated.
@stevemcilroy9518
@stevemcilroy9518 3 месяца назад
Thanks for the info. I was desperate to find out the correct way to do this and you've hit the nail on the head. Its only for a garage, however, its a pitch roof, twin wall, and I need to create a 7 foot hole to walk through to the new build. Respect.
@build-better-things
@build-better-things 3 месяца назад
Thanks and best of luck with your project
@mrboyban
@mrboyban Год назад
I got quoted a ridiculous amount of money to install couple of steel beams. I was not impressed with the kind of workmanship around Leeds area. I decided to do it myself, hired 10 props 4 strong boys and a lifter all in all £230 for the week rental, got a hammer drill and a masonry. Got the Naylor and steel beams as recommended by the structure engineer. The final result not just make me very proud but also save me the money and the hassle to deal with the cowboys.
@build-better-things
@build-better-things Год назад
Thanks for comment. Yes, the money you can save on this part of a build is a lot, you just need to be well prepared. I totally agree that it’s so satisfying to do this part of the project yourself.
@KennyEvansUK
@KennyEvansUK 11 месяцев назад
Same for me in my loft. I ended up hiring a team of lifters to get the beams up into the loft, did the prep work before: padstones in all to SE spec, then the guys just got them up for me and dropped them into position, took them less than 30 minutes. Had to knock holes in the wall to push the beams through but after I just bricked everything up. The entire job cost me less than a grand including all the steel, padstones, lifters and SE visit and report. Cheapest quote I had was £3k just to fit them.
@lewismatthews8165
@lewismatthews8165 6 месяцев назад
How much did you save by doing it yourself?
@DRAINTVofficial
@DRAINTVofficial Год назад
Great video. The amount of structural engineers that has never had a brick in their hand, no common sense is insane.
@build-better-things
@build-better-things Год назад
I trained as an architect, and I think you could probably say the same about me when I graduated. It’s definitely true that some of us never get on site, spend the whole time just drawing, and then you get a bit of a disconnect between the real world .
@DK-jt6be
@DK-jt6be 2 месяца назад
Very informative, thanks!
@lewismatthews8165
@lewismatthews8165 6 месяцев назад
Good video. Thanks
@proppaltv1678
@proppaltv1678 5 месяцев назад
Great video. Please check out the Prop Pal Needle System, I think you’ll like it with what you have spoken about. Best wishes Steve 👍
@plummetplum
@plummetplum Год назад
Great video
@build-better-things
@build-better-things Год назад
Thanks a lot
@sammie6657
@sammie6657 Год назад
Thanks for this video buddy. Iv just subscribed
@build-better-things
@build-better-things Год назад
Thank you too.
@TomMurphy-ix2ds
@TomMurphy-ix2ds 5 месяцев назад
Great video, thank you so much - quality work throughout. I'm doing a self-build and after over a year of work, the time has come to do the rear / side extension. Can't find a good local company to just do the propping so was looking for self-build examples and came across this very simple explanation video. I am considering undertaking the work but not sure my self-build insurance will cover it, great knowledge nonetheless. Subscribed!
@build-better-things
@build-better-things 5 месяцев назад
There is no “formal” qualification for doing demolitions and propping. I don’t have any anything to show them. Insurance companies and their loss adjusters are looking for the appropriate due diligence and following the engineering specifications, if an accident occurred. An example of your insurance not paying out is through you using the wrong type of props, or the wrong positioning of props, or not having evidence of having made a method statement. If you can demonstrate competency, through your previous years work, they would have to insure you, just like they’re insuring all general purpose builders. I always tell them what my job is, what they need from me, and whether I have cover. If they still won’t, get a different insurer. Thanks a lot for your comment and best of luck.
@Phillee89
@Phillee89 4 месяца назад
Hi build better things, great video. I am hoping to do this myself in a year or so, could you give me a bit of advise on what sort of support is required at the base of the acrows? I was hoping to have most of the single storey extension built before I take the rear wall out so I am planning on leaving a few blocks out of the the proposed beam and block floor and extending the external props down to the ground. And then internally removing some floorboards and doing the same. Would a concrete base need to be poured to support the props or can they just be sat on a scaffold board or something which is sat directly on the ground? Many thanks.
@build-better-things
@build-better-things 4 месяца назад
As long as the ground is level and well compacted with boulder clay or similar residing near the surface, so no loose topsoil, scaffold boards are ok. But the boards must be level and secured. Don’t worry about the concrete. Write your step by step method statement and safety plan, then finalise with your structural engineer. Key thing is to have everything rigid and tensioned without being too much to damage the existing walls, because even a few millimetres of movement will cause you problems. But…as I said…check all with engineer once you’re prepared and before you start.
@zhinongye4500
@zhinongye4500 Год назад
Hi, your video is very helpful for me, i watch a lot recently, i have a extension very similar, i want to do by myself,would i ask you some details about the steel beam what you used? Thanks.
@build-better-things
@build-better-things Год назад
I used a primed (painted) 254 x 254 x 89 steel i section for the beam, sitting on 203 x 203 x 72 columns at each end. But I had to splice the beam into three parts to fit it in, as it was too big. I made a video here about how I did it, and how a splice works. Don’t forget to get all your sizes checked by engineer. Steel beams for house extension - working with structural engineer ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-O-yt3P6JL90.html
@build-better-things
@build-better-things Год назад
It may have been galvanised…I can’t recall
@zhinongye4500
@zhinongye4500 Год назад
@@build-better-things thanks so much
@NeonXXP
@NeonXXP Год назад
I am doing similar myself but keeping the wall between the house and extension. One thing playing on my mind is how to stop water transferring from the top section of wall, that is exposed to rain, down to what will become an internal wall. It looks like you have put a DPM tray and weep holes above your RSJ, I can't do that without demolishing and rebuilding. I am guessing applying a weather barrier treatment to the external brick will be the most cost and time effective solution. I have found this to be a very hard situation to research, there must be a set of standard practices for this. My B.Regs inspector will be able to tell me what they want but I like to plan ahead.
@build-better-things
@build-better-things Год назад
The problem with your weather barrier idea is that water may still get in, further up the wall. The correct way to do it in your situation is to use a plastic preformed cavity tray which comes in short sections. You go along the course above the roof abutment carefully knocking one or two bricks out and exposing the inner leaf. You then fit your cavity tray pieces, which interlock with each other horizontally. You then add back in the bricks, and move along horizontally and rinse and repeat, weep holes as you go. Your flashing onto the roof then laps over the lower horizontal leg of the tray. It’s hard to describe. Hope that is clear.
@NeonXXP
@NeonXXP Год назад
@@build-better-things Awesome, I had a feeling you would know! Very helpful.
@pd3682
@pd3682 4 месяца назад
So any video on you tube where an rsj is being installed with a length of 4 m or longer and strong boys are used to hold the external wall is incorrect? Thats like 95 percent of all videos. Thanks for the video(s) Very useful and informative
@build-better-things
@build-better-things 4 месяца назад
It’s not the length of the opening that determines it, it’s what the load or weight over the opening. For a two storey opening such as the example I’m showing, the loads are such that you would never, ever, use strong boys. I don’t have the space here to show it using Kilo newtons, but it’s a simple calculation. I’ve seen the same RU-vid videos of so called builders using strong boys, they are clueless and dangerous. The fact that most (not all) get away with it is irrelevant. I’ll consider strong boys on single storey openings for example.
@pd3682
@pd3682 4 месяца назад
Thank you, for thr reply, videos r really good to watch and appreciated. If strong boys only ever used for single story extensions, it would only be to hold the roof . Thanks again, nice simple easy to follow videos. Wish I'd found them before paying for my planning drawings ha ha . Thank you
@dwayneharris4787
@dwayneharris4787 4 месяца назад
oh great! so I'll have to knock through a freshly renovated bathroom and bedroom? are there really no alternatives that offer the same strength and support without knocking through the first floor?
@build-better-things
@build-better-things 4 месяца назад
You raise a good point. Unfortunately the laws of physics doesn’t care about your bathroom. As far as I know, needles are the only economically feasible way, but your structural engineer might be able to design a splice beam system where you go along horizontally in metre increments inserting the splice as you go, without the need for needles therefore. Probably cost more than the redecorating if your builder does it, but perhaps using a step by step approach , hopefully as I’m describing, a self builder could do a perfect a job, since time and organisation is the main resource for demolitions . Alternatively I guess the trick is to wait until after you’ve done your extension before decorating your upstairs bathroom and bedroom. And, no matter what your builder says, to never use strong boys.
@dwayneharris4787
@dwayneharris4787 4 месяца назад
"Unfortunately the laws of physics doesn’t care about your bathroom" That you are right. I have been researching for about a year now to get the courage to do my own extension, but I think i'll leave this part to someone with experience and will take your advice to only use the needle goalpost system. It's only a few tiles and a bit of plaster to replace. It's just looks more chaotic than it is I guess. Thanks for your videos
@build-better-things
@build-better-things 4 месяца назад
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Best of luck for whatever way you decide and feel free to ask if you have more questions
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