Denethor, Last Ruling Steward of Gondor - Epic Character History

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Denethor was the last ruling steward of Gondor, whose life was one of tragedy, and while he may not have been the most heroic of characters, he fought many battles of will against the Dark Lord Sauron directly. Thank you all so much for watching, let me know your thoughts on Denethor in the comments below! As always, a great thanks to the online artists whose visual works made this video possible! If you are one of the artists, please let me know and I will post your name and a link to your work in this description!
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@spurgu9769 Год назад

CHERRY TOMATOES

@UsaballAnimations 11 месяцев назад

Why?

@qkhuve 8 месяцев назад

@@UsaballAnimationswatch the movie again and you'll understand :)

@UsaballAnimations 8 месяцев назад

@@qkhuve I saw it again. I get it

@matthewklee5431 Год назад

The fact that souron was able to corrupt and break Saruman but not completely break denethor really says a lot about the steward. If only they translated that into the films.

@Soldier4USA2005 Год назад

I agree. The only "good" part of his character that someone could get behind was a father that lost his son, but we never got an understanding as to WHY he was such a corrupt individual. He was simply a "bad guy".

@teleportedbreadfor3days Год назад

We saw some of it in the extended edition in Denethor’s insistence that he would bury the ring in a deep vault and only use it as an absolute last resort. He made it clear how strongly he desired to be careful with such a powerful yet dangerous item.

@genghisgalahad8465 Год назад

That relationship soured, apparently.

@BookofGates Год назад

Saruman had secretly admired Sauron for years which is very ironic given his original name of Mairon. The the moment he wasn't actively working against him ie when he acquired Isengard, he began is descent. As for Denethor his main fall was thinking his will could equal Sauron's which is did, for a time, but cost him greatly. It left him aged but eventually it was simply too much

@jakealter5504 Год назад

@@BookofGates agreed, Saruman’s fall into darkness started not long after arriving in middle earth and began searching for the ring, long before he actually encountered Sauron

@marionbaggins Год назад

Denethor is much more of a Tragic character in the Books than, in his Tomato Eater Movie Version...It's very tragic going back and reading about some characters because they are very heartbreaking!!! Thanks, Mellon for Denethor's ECH, Until Two Towers 20th Years Video...Marion Baggins Out!!!

@Helperbot-2000 Год назад

"Tomato eater" hahaha

@grandadmiralzaarin4962 Год назад

I wish Denethor's book character had made the Jackson films, it would have greatly enriched the story as having Denethor be powerful, strong and competent, it would have made his collapse into despair all the more potent. There would have been more tragedy too as Pippin and he had shared moments where Pippin admired and respected the Steward with Denethor being touched by Pippin's acts and service.

@alanpennie8013 Год назад

Yes. Pippin was sad when Denethor sent him away. Denethor shouldn't have done that, Pippin may have been his last link to sanity.

@grandadmiralzaarin4962 Год назад

@@alanpennie8013 yes, this was the greatest missed opportunity in Jackson's RotK I felt. by portraying the relationship between Denethor and Pippin in a negative and frankly creepy/oppressive light, Jackson missed the emotional poignancy of Pippin who began to see Denethor as something of a mentor/father figure watching Denethor finally break and move towards self-destruction. Likewise, it changes the context of Denethor telling Pippin, "I release you from my service, go and die in what way seems best to you." rather than in the film where it's done as a cold dismissal, in the books, it's Denethor being kind(in his broken way at this point) to Pippin by allowing him to go where he wills and die how he sees fit. It really is a shame because the relationship between Denethor and Pippin was supposed to be similar to Theoden and Merry, which again, would have made the aftermath of the siege that much more emotional.

@dustwyrm Год назад

@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 And Pippin understood his wish to die together with a loved one instead of alone, but he decided to fight to the end instead of giving into despair. "'I wish Merry was here,' he heard himself saying, and quick thoughts raced through his mind as he watched the enemy come charging the assault. 'Well, well, now at any rate I understand poor Denethor a little better. We might die together, Merry and I, and since die we must why not? Well, as he is not here, I hope he'll find an easier end. But now I must do my best."(From RoTK, Book 1, Chapter 10). Denethor and Pippin's relationship is very complex and interesting.

@grandadmiralzaarin4962 Год назад

@@dustwyrm it was, it would have been incredible to see this on screen.

@dustwyrm Год назад

@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 Yeah

@notcardlinsytaccount1355 Год назад

11:27 Now there’s an underrated LotR character. I wish more people talked about Beregond.

@GerryBolger Год назад

Beregong and Bergil are great characters during the Minas Tirith chapters. Their undying loyalty to Faramir is tragic, which is shown by the kin-slaying committed by Beregong, but Aragorn's understanding and forgiveness is equally beautiful.

@alejeron Год назад

it is a shame that the canniness and wisdom of denethor didn't quite make it into the films. His cunning in preserving Gondor's forces and implementing a brilliant strategy of delay and attrition against the forces of Mordor is far beyond what most commanders and generals could accomplish

@tobiaslarsen3861 Год назад

This is a character i wish they portrayed different in Jackson's trilogy.

@garmisra7841 Год назад

Yeah - I think they should have hewed closer to the books for both him and Faramir. I liked David Wenham as Faramir even though I had a problem with the Characterization, but could see Charles Dance or Jeremy Irons as a more book-accurate Denethor.

@michaelglover2871 Год назад

In the movies, Pippin witnessed tomatoes being violated twice. Once in Minas Tirith, and once on wheathertop. "Ash on my tomatoes." 😪🍅

@johnquach8821 Год назад

Very nice video! Maybe a "What if Gandalf found out Bilbo had the One Ring earlier"? Or a "Radagast's Failure: Could he have been forgiven"?

@kajlennartsson4234 Год назад

The story of Denethor is tragic and sad. I dont see him as a evil man. I see him as a man that got broken by sauron.

@philippjansen7199 Год назад

Interestingly enough, he never got corrupted the way Saruman was. In the end, Sauron just showed him his forces in Mordor, and the ever calculating Denethor kind of capitulated and grew more and more bitter

@jakealter5504 Год назад

@@philippjansen7199 that’s because Saruman became corrupt on his own. He envied Sauron

@lisboah Год назад

It's a damn shame that the movie trilogy, while a masterpiece, pretty much took all of Denethor's skills and good decisions and gave them to Gandalf. Not to mention that it's never brought up the reason why he fell into madness.

@sbeaber Год назад

Isn't it briefly? Maybe extended edition? Thought a palantir rolls somewhere in the pyre scene. Good excuse to rewatch the trilogy.

@jakealter5504 Год назад

@@sbeaber it was both the palantir plus losing boromir

@lisboah Год назад

@@sbeaber In the movie it seems like Denethor lost his sanity after losing both of his sons and after he watched the enormous army of Mordor attacking Minas Tirith. We received no indication that Denethor has looked at the Palantir and saw the vast armies gathering in Mordor. And in the Last Debate Gandalf makes no mention of this as well, he simply states that Sauron is already preparing another assault and that the orcs will surely capture Frodo and the Ring.

@StoneKnivesBearskins Год назад

"And this foolishness nearly saw the death of Faramir" Except it WASN'T foolishness. It was an extremely risky move, and a desperate one, but it was an effort to keep the forces of Sauron from storming the walls of Minas Tirith for as long as possible - an effort to buy Theoden and the Rohirrim the time they needed to come to Gondor's aide. And it worked! Theoden did not come too late to turn the tide of the battle because of that desperate attempt led by Faramir and ordered by Denethor to delay the siege of Minas Tirith itself. In the movie it was extremely foolish and was nothing more than a suicide run that accomplished nothing but getting Faramir's entire company killed. In the book, a third of them were lost but they succeeded in holding off the enemy for nearly an extra three days! Days that the Rohirrim definitely needed/used to get to Minas Tirith in time! Yes, Gandalf feared for Faramir's life and told him so, but that did not make the plan itself foolish. AND Denethor additionally had a plan to aid them in their inevitable retreat, which was also successful.

@catherinewhite2943 Год назад

Denethor was a man of great potential who allowed his pride and jealousy to overrule the wisdom he had been given. Jealousy of Thorongil. Jealousy of a Steward's position being lesser than a King even though functionally equal during his rule. Pride in himself and his own strength - against a Maia. A tragic character and ultimately a broken man, yes. But he sowed the seeds of his own tragedy in pride and jealousy.

@corgi42069 Год назад

Honestly, Denethor has always been a character sore spot for me. It is one of the few true mistakes of the Jackson films that they thoroughly assassinated his character, especially considering the level of talent they picked to play him. I have no doubt in my mind that he could have played the REAL Denethor just as compellingly, because despite the way they twisted him, it was still a command performance. Thanks for this in-depth video buddy! Given that you've done Pippin, the Line of Durin, Gimli, Sam, and now Denethor, all I await is your Balin character history and you'll have covered all of my favorites!

@hannah.lindsey Год назад

I'm watching it with subtitles and some of the names are interpreted weirdly. Faramir =Fatimir or Vladimir Denathor= Dinosaur Ecthelion= excellion

@MatthewBrannickWilliam Год назад

Thumbnail looks like Wayne Gretzky

@alanpennie8013 Год назад

I have always felt bad about the fall of Denethor. Could he have been saved if Aragorn had claimed the kingship earlier or would his pride have doomed him in any case? Oh well! He removed himself at a moment convenient to everyone except his near anagram and fellow aging ruler.

@BenFrayle Год назад

He wouldn't have handed power to Aragorn while he was alive.

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@alanmike6883 Год назад

Cool yoystan 👍 I think we can't blame denethor for everything. He was quite lordly and the strong man gondor needed at that time. Time and decline had weakened gondor. Fighting Sauron mentally aged him. Losing his wife and knowing how weak gondor was affected him. Some people say he should've done this or he should've done that but gondor had not as many soldiers as its heyday and nobody has taken into account the population of gondor at the time of the war of the ring and the dwindling of the Dunedain

@lisboah Год назад

Not to mention that he ended up being right on several points: -While they had good intentions, he was right that Aragorn and Gandalf had ulterior motives that would undermine and eventually take away his authority. -He was right that neither Gondor nor the entirety of the Free People could stand against the full might of Mordor. Even without the Ring, Sauron would have won. Aragorn and Gandalf had to rely on a very dangerous gambit to achieve victory. -In hindsight, believing that two hobbits would be able to destroy the Ring was nigh foolish. Gandalf overestimated Frodo's willpower and underestimated the Ring's temptation. Middle-Earth was only saved because Gollum took the Ring from Frodo's fingers and then fell onto the volcano.

@alanpennie8013 Год назад

@@lisboah Gandalf's plan only worked because he had God sitting in his lap, and this was something Denethor could not reasonably have been expected to know. Mind you Denethor didn't have a better plan for how to dispose of The Ring.

@lisboah Год назад

@@alanpennie8013 Denethor himself admitted that it would take time for him to come up with a plan, but he had confidence that it would be better than letting two hobbits infiltrate Mordor in the hopes that they would somehow reach Mount Doom and destroy the Ring.

@tominiowa2513 Год назад

@@alanpennie8013 To be fair, one has to dig into the _Tolkien Letters_ to find out that Tolkien used deus ex machina at least 3 times in _The Hobbit_ and _The Lord of the Rings_ . Just like Satan, Sauron could only win by corrupting enough people to his side that God/Eru would not intervene to insure his final defeat.

@istari0 Год назад

Denethor was a remarkably skilled leader who did an excellent job for the most part in the struggle against Sauron. But he was flawed, both prideful and insecure and in the end Sauron took advantage of those traits and Denethor finally broke with the loss of Boromir and his belief that Faramir was dying as well. I suspect at the very end he deeply regretted how he had treated his younger son but believed all was lost regardless.

@arashi3483 Год назад

This may be a hot take, but Denethor in 1:28 looks like Wayne Gretzky.

@jeffreygao3956 Год назад

Hopefully, no lawsuits involved.

@ravenhill-the-hospitaller-1968 Год назад

you and your fearless band of hobbits may not be blessed with super powers or magic, but there are plenty of others who are. Stay close to them because your quest is daunting and your adversaries are ominous and evil. But courage, perseverance and imagination ( with a little help from your friends) are enough to destroy even the evil sauron's insidious control over your world.

@Rezkeshdadesh Год назад

I didn't realize Denethor was pushing 90 in Return of the King.

@BookofGates Год назад

There's are market for a 5 hour long crazy animated epic LIKE if you agree. It would be 100 % faithful to the books The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings. No filler, no cuts. In terms of the art style I love Alan Lee, but recently discovered a soft spot for Tolkien's own art, see LOTR anniversary special it's big and red. I really think there's a market for adult animated fantasy whether it's lord of the rings or diskworld. There definite potential for animated Silmarilion too. Thoughts comments welcome love this channel.

@TarMody Год назад

If, among the male members of the Gondor family tree, Meneldil's three brothers, Narmacil I, Ornendil, Telemnar, and Castamir (unlikely because he was usurper) are not descended, and an heir descended from the daughters of the dynasty cannot claim the throne, It seems like a futile wait for the stewardship to act as a successor to the throne until the arrival of an heir of Anárion's bloodline. That's why I think they eventually have to hand over the throne to an heir of the line of Isildur.

@paulwagner688 Год назад

What Denethor had that Sauron did not have was the explicit RIGHT to use the Stone. That is a powerful thing, and probably crafted into the nature of the Stones by the Noldor of Valinor--Maybe even by Feanor himself. That's why both he AND Aragorn were able to use the Stones without the interference of Sauron, though at a cost. Witness Aragorn after looking into the Orthanc stone--he seemed older, grimmer, as if many years fell on him in a single night.

@AMoniqueOcampo Год назад

Denethor reminds me of the characters from Game of Thrones. One of the few examples of nihilism and in Tolkien's world, this ends with self-destruction.

@jeffreygao3956 Год назад

Not surprising considering both Game of Thrones and Middle-earth are both lore heavy pseudo-historical fantasy franchises with heavy dealings in geopolitics. One has magic rings and the other has sexposition.

@cnacma Год назад

Which goes to show you Tolkien’s ability to capture real human sociological themes and deeply infuse them into captivating and complex characters. Nihilism always leads to a kind of self destruction one way or another. But Nihilism in of itself in literature is bleak and too much of it has a way of sucking the joy out of a story. Having this one character though brings a sharp dichotomy with Gandalf’s never ending resolve and bravery. His ability to inspire hope in others in the face of absolute darkness. This may not have shown through quite so brilliantly if not compared directly with Denethor.

@nigeldepledge3790 Год назад

It's such a shame that the Denthor - Faramir dynamic was reduced to a carboard-cutout version of itself in the movies.

@Silversmith70 Год назад

Authority is not given to you to deny the return of the king.... Steward!

@kaidorade1317 Год назад

No burial for Faramir and Denethor. We shall burn like the kings of old

@Yesica1993 Год назад

That always runs a chill through me!

@nataliep6385 Год назад

I am afraid that all future movies and tv shows based on the Tolkien universe is going to be semi-woke and overused CGI effects. :-(

@jeffreygao3956 Год назад

They won't. Also, the only valid definition of woke is the past tense of wake.

@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290 Год назад

I can see why you would think this. Rings of power sure desecrated Tolkiens work with the unnecessary/disrespectful changes it made. But who knows, we might get another good adaptation in a few dozen years or so, you know... if we're lucky and Hollywood goes belly up.

@esmvp400 Год назад

You are correct. And it will keep getting worse.

@jeffreygao3956 Год назад

@@esmvp400 Make sure all cynicism is purged from my mind. For cynicism is a weapon of The Nothing, enemy of all.

@shadowofchaos8932 Год назад

Here is a question for everyone. Was Denethor a good steward? I say yes despite losing hope in the end.

@lisboah Год назад

Considering that he was right at Mordor's doorstep? Yes! Even more impressive is that he resisted Sauron's attempts to corrupt him, while Saruman eventually succumbed to it.

@varyar77 Год назад

Yes! I think Gandalf was too harsh when he told Imrahil (re: retreating to a stronghold while the evil tide rises) that's about all Gondor did during Denethor's stewardship. Absent the hand of providence (by way of the Hobbits), any more aggressive policy would most likely have ended in defeat and a much-weakened Gondor. It's one thing to launch a quick raid on the docks of Umbar, but another to try and assault Minas Morgul or the Black Gate (for example).

@lisboah Год назад

@@varyar77 True. Gondor was fighting alone. Saruman had ensured that Rohan wouldn't come to aid. Mordor had legions of orcs and trolls, the Nazguls, the Haradrim, the Easterlings...

@ovrair6340 Год назад

The films did him dirty, he sounds like a jealous and flawed man who tried his best to be a good steward (or king in all but name)

@CrustyWhiteBread Год назад

Howdy, m8's.

@philippjansen7199 Год назад

I love how complex Denethor and Faramir are in the books. I understand that they had to simplify them for the movies, yet it's a shame. Denethor was one of the wisest and smartest characters in Middle Earth, yet for most people he is the idiot with the cherry tomatoes

@Comicnut64 Год назад

Totally wasn’t expecting this one Yoystan keep up the great work

@orrointhewise87 Год назад

"Perhaps you come to tell me why my son is dead?" Complicated fellow to say the least. He definitely can represent how the best of intentions can go wrong. Interesting tho, his insecurities of Aragorn early on seem to birth his father issues with his own sons later. To me he's the perfect argument for mortality; he suffered and endured so much. After all that, death is indeed a blessing

@carolrondou6161 Год назад

Ummm...He was played by Sean Bean?

@jakealter5504 Год назад

@@carolrondou6161 that was boromir

@OfficialRedTeamReview Год назад

Steward and Olympic runner

@jackcoleman5955 Год назад

I really like that you always end with a moral or modern parallel. Tolkien abhorred allegory, but would never claim his stories didn’t have appplication.

@toddkurzbard Год назад

Not having really read the books, from this it appears to me as if the movies really did Denethor an injustice. There he's depicted as a defeated, "Whoa Is Me", incapable ruler who has given up. Apparently the real Denethor, while flawed and not really up to it, was far more effective. I can just imagine in my mind Sauron in Mordor enjoying the hell out of watching Denethor despair at the Lord of Mordor's overwhelming power and superiority over him.

@jeffreygao3956 Год назад

Overdrive, Scribd, Internet Archive, and your local library have them. Go read!

@ooglyboogly6258 Год назад

I'll always remember denethor as the flying fire man from the movies lol

@mikej8382 Год назад

Denethor is one of the biggest differences between the films and books.

@upschutt4842 Год назад

I think it is not likely for Denethor to learn about Thorongil's true identity by use of the Palanthir. After all, Sauron did not know about Aragorn's existence until it was too late.

@BenFrayle Год назад

Only if someone else with a Palantir knew. The Palantirs were not scrying stones or spy cameras, they allowed users to psychically communicate with one another and nothing more. Those powerful enough to dominate the wills of others, such as Sauron, could do the same via a Palantir hook-up.

@kitamibu Год назад

I'm so glad I found your channel! Even though I am no man, I'm still part of the Men of the West community!

@MenoftheWest Год назад

Yes, you are one of us, regardless! 🙂

@varyar77 Год назад

Denethor is one of my favorite characters. He (and Saruman) is one who could have been a great hero, but he failed at the final test.

@fiddleback1568 Год назад

Denethor is an example of everything wrong with the Jackson films.

@ErikYehl Год назад

I mean out of all honesty if my son had the chance to take the ring, but instead sent it into enemy lands in the hands of 2 hobbits I would be mad too. Assuming I wouldn’t know much about it’s ability to corrupt, and assuming that I would be able to control it somehow.

@markuhler2664 9 месяцев назад

Denethor was a wise man. Unfortunately, he was fighting a fallen angel, against whom the wisdom of men meant little. Does that sound right? The complexity and deepness of Tolkien's work usually makes me stupid.

@ErikYehl 9 месяцев назад

@@markuhler2664 I mean what you said isn’t entirely wrong

@shanenolan5625 Год назад

Thanks. I much preferred book donator

@TheGonnabesomebody Год назад

I'm currently reading fellowship of the rings I did attempt to read before but could finish wish me luck

@CynthiaWarren Год назад

Denethor was a proud man, and his pride was his undoing. Sometimes, it seems like the modern mind can't really understand what Tolkien showed us about how the human mind works. Aragorn and Faramir were paragons, men with such nobility of character and innate wisdom, that corruption of their souls was nearly impossible. But Denethor and Boromir had personalities that led them into believing that they were incorruptible, when that very arrogance was what made them very much corruptible. BTW, I love the way you write your scripts. The language you use fits so well into how Tolkien wrote. I could almost imagine reading your words in Tolkien's works. Great work!

@1vandread Год назад

Gondor has no King, Gondor needs no King.

@alanpennie8013 Год назад

Until it did, I suppose.

@jeffreygao3956 Год назад

Also Boromir: Fights for Aragorn and wishes luck for him before dying.

@johnfleet235 Год назад

The stewards and their sons might have thought that, but the people of Gondor still looked for the Return of The King. They never lost hope.

@CrookedRosePOD Год назад

The actor who played him was phenomenal

@ButterBallTheOpossum 7 месяцев назад

That's the most tragic part. He would have played an book accurate Denethor perfectly

@Thomas.Wright Год назад

Glad he sent the Red Arrow. Because if he had sent a Green Arrow, he would have FAILED THIS CITY!

@ghostpatriot2370 Год назад

Thumbnail looks like Gretzky

@markuhler2664 9 месяцев назад

Jackson's telling was fantastic but Denethor's character was very much simplified and distorted.

@jackolantern147 Год назад

What if Melkor corrupted the race of men into monsters? What would they be turned into?

@brandtbollers3183 Год назад

Just Us.

@EnesLOTR Год назад

They wouldn't turn into any kind of monsters but they would be evil and serve sauron same as people of rühn they came from numenor as people who literally worshiped Morgoth due to corruption of sauron while he was in numenor . So answer is they wouldn't turn into any orcs or monsters they would just be evil

@OscarEqualsLove 5 месяцев назад

I wish the full depth of character could have been shown for Denethor, but he is after all a minor character. There’s only so long one can make a film and LOTR was already pushing that to the max. Plus it gives us all even more reason to read the books : ) *Ecthelion is without a doubt my favorite sounding name of all time.

@str.77 Год назад

Denethor and Findulias didn't PASS. Denethor and Findulias DIED.

@ofb1583 Год назад

When using the palantiri is one with strength of will & able to 'see' with the stone looking at the mundane world alone or are they able to recognise the 'fea' of beings. Sauron/Mairon had not fully regained physical form & Olorin/Gandalf wore only the raiment of an old man so as not to break Eru's command, not to order but persuade his children. Was then, Denethor aware of their real identities as well as the lineage of Elrond & ultimately Thorongil/Aragorn?

@fiddleback1568 9 месяцев назад

The movies did no justice to Denethor. I do think mention of Denethor's will power when faced with Sauron through the Palantir should have been looked into more.

@martykitson3442 Год назад

ummm the palantirs were not evil, they were not the works of evil, they came from Valinor, the Ithil stone in the hands of Sauron was of course corrupted and that's where the problem came from for both Denethor and Sarumon

@MenoftheWest Год назад

Indeed, at this point they were dangerous and evil to use due to Sauron’s corruption.

@nipingreyeyes-gaudry-we7vm Год назад

Is no one going to mention his picture in the thumbnail looks exactly like Wayne Gretzky (Canadian lotr fan here)

@Halfwit_The_Brave Год назад

I always thought the movies did Denethor dirty. Yes he was an asshole, but he did have good qualities as well. I find him very interesting to be sure.

@johnclauson4619 7 месяцев назад

That's Wayne Gretzky in the thumbnail

@sbeaber Год назад

Yes yes yes. Theoden manipulated and enfeebled by Saruman. Loses his (only) son. Only to accept to trust Gandalf. Forgives his (adopted) son. To go out and fight for a land that is not his own. Compared to Denethor: enfeebled by Sauron. Loses his son. In his madness he gives into despair and lashes out at his other to almost his second son's detriment. Distrusts Gandalf. Takes his own life out of despair. Poetry. It rhymes LoL

@belles_library Год назад

The thumbnail looks like a gray haired Spoony/Noah Antwiler.

@dr.insaneoiv Год назад

Question: I've only ever watched the trilogy, but I wonder... You think Jackson and crew filmed scenes of Denethor as the character in the book? I ask this, seeing as the trilogy has over a year's worth of film, with some pickups as well.

@robertbauer3311 Год назад

Although a technicality, I d ok my think it’s correct to call him the last ruling steward… that was still technically Faramir, even though it was while he was in convalescence.

@MountainFisher Год назад

It comes down to Denethor had a Right to use the Palantir as Steward of Gondor. Saruman had no Right to use the Palantir and fell. Denethor couldn't be made a tool of Sauron nonetheless he could only see what Sauron allowed him to. Aragorn also had the Right to use the Palantir, but had greater strength than Denethor and wrenched control of the Palantir from Sauron, thus seeing the danger at Pelargil.

@ofb1583 Год назад

Wasn't Faramir the last ruling steward of Gondor before Aragorn's coronation?

@TheMan05555 10 месяцев назад

You could say that, but how long was Faramir’s rule, and how much of that was in the House of Healing?

@Mark723 Год назад

Another stunningly brilliant video, beautifully spoken...I could listen to your commentary for hours, for both its insight and eloquence.

@IanHeins 11 месяцев назад

Nice work dude thanks

@t.tshankle427 Год назад

Great work as always Yoyston! Props to the artist for the thumbnail art as well! Is it also just me, or does that portrayal of Denethor in the thumbnail look slightly like Wayne Gretzky was cast as Denethor? 😅

@TheTrickynicky13 Год назад

What is the name of the music?

@ipilaitela7115 Год назад

"So passes Denethor, son of Ecthelion" said Gandalf

@tinic1 Год назад

What if Denethor had survived the siege of Minas Tirith?

@JM-ji2tw Год назад

Great video. I’d be interested to see one on “how the movies changed Denethor” it was so sad to me that in the theatre the audience literally cheered when he killed himself in the film. In the books I feel one is moved to potty for this man but I’m the movie he is made out as almost no better that Sauron or Sauramem.

@user-ks5cg5cd7m Год назад

I love your videos. Thanks.

@kurtschulmeyer1041 Год назад

A perfect example of pride goes before a fall.

@jamesedmison2768 Год назад

Very good work

@devinwood2713 Год назад

Come sing me a song

@BenFrayle Год назад

Wasn't Faramir (briefly) the last Steward?

@MenoftheWest Год назад

I suppose that’s a fair point! He held power before surrendering it to Aragorn.

@circedelune Год назад

He wasn’t the last steward, he was the last ruling steward.

@BenFrayle Год назад

@@circedelune Faramir couldn't have ceded power unless he was ruler.

@circedelune Год назад

@@BenFrayle yes, sorry for the confusion. I meant Faramir was the last ruling steward. I’m pretty sure the stewardship didn’t end with him, though. That’s what I meant

@BenFrayle Год назад

@@circedelune "Faramir met Aragorn in the midst of those there assembled, and he knelt, and said: ‘The last Steward of Gondor begs leave to surrender his office.’ And he held out a white rod; but Aragorn took the rod and gave it back, saying: ‘That office is not ended, and it shall be thine and thy heirs’ as long as my line shall last. Do now thy office!’ Then Faramir stood up and spoke in a clear voice: ‘Men of Gondor hear now the Steward of this Realm! Behold! one has come to claim the kingship again at last. Here is Aragorn son of Arathorn, chieftain of the Dúnedain of Arnor, Captain of the Host of the West, bearer of the Star of the North, wielder of the Sword Reforged, victorious in battle, whose hands bring healing, the Elfstone, Elessar of the line of Valandil, Isildur’s son, Elendil’s son of Númenor. Shall he be king and enter into the City and dwell there?’ And all the host and all the people cried yea with one voice. ... ‘Men of Gondor, the loremasters tell that it was the custom of old that the king should receive the crown from his father ere he died; or if that might not be, that he should go alone and take it from the hands of his father in the tomb where he was laid. But since things must now be done otherwise, using the authority of the Steward, I have today brought hither from Rath Dínen the crown of Eärnur the last king, whose days passed in the time of our longfathers of old.’

@markusrobinson3858 Год назад

Well done!

@turinturambar8622 Год назад

I understand why Jackson did what he did, but I sure wish he hadn't completely changed poor Denethor. I have a heck of a time explaining to people who've only seen the films that Denethor wasn't just a tomato slurping psychopath 😔

@jeffreygao3956 Год назад

He's cruel and abusive!

@UberChargedTrollFace Год назад

Thank you!!! Literally just finished your last vid lol

@spaceistheplace8376 Год назад

get your sound fixed : its a bit low .and watch what kind of crap art u re adding sometimes

@gaebren9021 Год назад

I don't think that Sauron would have know of Thorongil as this indicates that Sauron would have know that the King of Gondor had returned. Sauron was unaware of the Return of the King of Gondor until Aragorn looked into the Palantir.