Dillon fucked up. I would only be okay if this was a different type of Motorsport known as Banger Racing, it's less professional but Hella fun to watch. This behavior should NEVER be allowed for NASCAR as it's not very sportsman like
@@billtmarchi4320 Your comment reads like Tiger general Zang around the 1 minute mark ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QrBccMu8e6I.htmlsi=U_5nTIf69oMjuvWX
@@DominicGreene72 I didn't watch his poopcast. I paused the crying and went straight to the comments . I don't want to hear what a whiney hypocrit has to say. Can't wait till he joins loser Harvick in the retired baby column.
Hey Denny, got a question for you. There's a video going around of Joey Logano doing burnout in pit lane which everyone wants him to get penalized for since there are women and children standing around, and it was awfully close to them. My question is, Why are there even women and children allowed on pit row on an OBVIOUSLY hot pit row with 38 cars all rolling down pit lane? Why does Nascar allow this? Should everyone not be behind the concrete wall until every car is fully stopped? I feel like Nascar is playing with fire for allowing this to happen.
I agree it does look dangerous. I saw that video too, didnt see the burnout but saw Joey definitely stop and at least revved it at Dillons pit. Even if nascar considers people being over the wall safe and legal, IMO it seems like a terrible idea for any mother to be carrying an infant on a still active race track. During Dillons interview with Harvick today he expressed some anger/frustration with Joey for the car being so loud that close to his wife and child. Meanwhile I’m thinking, dude why is your wife holding an infant on a race track 🤦
@@tylerdaniel3505Austin Hill caused the Martinsville debacle (unless you’re talking about Bristol) also RC drove for himself. He should take a look in the mirror
Attended the race, a lot is lost without broadcast/explanation. Had a post race discussion within our friend group and it became pretty heated with the normal "whiner" comments which every driver can be guilty of over the 30+ years I've followed NASCAR. Thank you for the way you diplomatically handled your post race interview and providing your thoughts via this in-depth podcast today, including admitting you, too, have been guilty of bumps and runs but explaing the difference, as well as quoting the rule book fans rarely have even a glimpse of. Well done, and you are continuing to be a fantastic spokesman for the sport. Thank you.
It’s crazy how many commenters have blinders on either for their driver or against other drivers. Especially when you get into high level sports, *very* few people are innocent, and the best are even less frequently innocent. You really can’t ask for much more than a little self awareness and, while I’m sure Denny wasn’t always this way, he seems to be now. I wish more drivers were like this.
@DominicGreene72 Exactly, and I really think it should be acknowledged. I responded to another post where I asked when we should've started really monitoring this since it's been happening throughout NASCAR history and not only now with our active drivers-many whom were absolute and undisputed legends and champions in the sport?
Duh. Thats why he NEEDED to crash pass for the win. He did what he needed to do and he won so he deserves it. Rather it be him than 2 playoffs locks (Logano and Denny).
@@n1ghteng4le I'm confused by this logic. If the only way someone is going to advance to the next level is by crashing others, then how are well are they going to perform at that level? How many intentional crashes will they have to perform to win when the competition better?
@@hiro0078 the competition doesn’t just get better when the playoffs start. Obviously they’re more motivated but you race every single driver still even the ones outside the playoffs. Getting into the playoffs is obviously important because then you have a chance to do better than the other playoffs contenders in the field and progress to the next rounds. He might not make it further into the playoffs than the first round sure, so he just shouldn’t have gone for the win? Every single driver outside of the playoffs would have done the same thing because every driver wants the opportunity to win a championship. Don’t be stupid
@@tyler7433 lol, simple but makes sense. Appreciate it. I'm new to Nascar, started watching last year. Is 16th where he landed after the win? Nascar shows him at 26th. Suarez is in 16th. Does this change?
Joey needed to guest this episode. To quote Denny at 2015 Martinsville when Kenseth cleaned out the 22, "I just can't get over what this series has come to. Just how f'd up it is. How do you really crown a real champion? Its just the wild wild west."
Dillon fucked up. I would only be okay if this was a different type of Motorsport known as Banger Racing, it's less professional but Hella fun to watch. This behavior should NEVER be allowed for NASCAR as it's not very sportsman like
Except he wasn't hooked.. Hamlin loves spinning things and making himself a victim. Dillion has every right to use all the track just as much as Hamlin does.. Problem was Hamlin line didn't get him ahead of Dillion , and he clipped the nose of Dillion.. turning him into the wall.
I’ve been a nascar fanatic for the last 20 years. This was one of the most exciting and awesome finishes I’ve ever seen. Thats all I’ll say.. NASCAR needs moments like this
We knew that a decade ago. Dillon didn't do anything that dozens of drivers have been doing for years. The side draft door slamming to the line is normal. Too bad Denny screwed himself this time.
@@billtmarchi4320I’ve never seen anyone take out the first and third place card on purpose before. He didn’t just put the bumper to Joey, he overdrove the corner on purpose. You never see that.
@@MRGandee is this the first and only race you ever watched??? Because I see it almost every race. Also hamlin wrecked himself, if you can't see that, then you are clearly an ignant person. Every one with any knowledge of driving has concluded that hamlin wrecked himself, including hamlin.
My take on watching the end of the race many times at speed and in slow motion. Logan’o heading for the checkered flag slowed/ lost traction for Dillion to be able to reach and make contact with Logano’s rear bumper. Dillion continues to accelerate to the finish line. While Hamlin pulls from the bottom lane up in front of Dillion looking like a move to block or not paying attention to his mirror? Making Hamlin’s car in the path of the faster accelerating/ better traction Dillion’s car making for unavoidable contact. It is the last lap heading to the finish line. All three should be going full throttle. You don’t get hit in the rear if you have the faster car.
Wrecking someone for a win specifically or period? Or right rear hooked specifically? Because he's done both just not at the same time. I'm not sure what significance doing both at the same time has. Wrecking someone on purpose is wrecking someone on purpose regardless of why.
I was gonna blame Ricky for this but I watched again and he was just holding his line when Preece came down on him, then Ricky locked his fronts up. You can still say Ricky shouldn't have been crowding Preece, but that is a racing move. I would like to know why Ricky wasn't on the red tires? He could have driven away from all that. That restart wasn't as bad as I thought, looked like Dillon just wasn't as good on the reds as the rest.
This is the same comment you hear over and over that is wrong. They didn’t “wreck” anyone. Contact where the other guy keeps going and can gather up the car isn’t “wrecking” someone. The fact that people can’t see a difference proves that nascar fans have no idea what they are watching.
Denny is actually good and moves people with talent because he’s close to their bumper. Dillon just drove into the corner with the pure intention to wreck Logano. Then right hooked Denny. Desperate LOL. Run them up? Sure! Bump & Run? Sure! Blast the corner 3 car lengths back and to wreck anyone that tries to and pass you? Nah.
What makes this different than when Hamilton wrecked Chase at Martinsville. Or JOEY did to Matt years ago. All 3 Of these drivers have wrecked others for the win
Bump and run is different than wreck and run. I think the better question is when the inside car comes in super hot knowing they have the car on the outside to bang into and still make the corner. I think Denny has crossed that line with a lot of other drivers being equally selfish in those moments. What Dillon did was just Waaaay over the line. I don’t think Denny believes he never crossed the line…just that this one was too blatant to even be a question.
How innocent we were before the race. Here I was thinking the biggest controversy we’d be talking about this week was whether the tires were good or not 😂
Love getting his take every week but Denny has on multiple occasion not tried to make the corner and use the car on the outside up. Larson for example....
Gained a lot of appreciation for DH after this with his interview and trying to see things from all perspectives. We need that in this world more now than ever.
Hamlin the crybaby wrecked himself moving up the track. Hahaha. And if he is confused about his response to him wrecking himself, maybe he looked back to the 20 times he has wrecked others to win races. Or like when he slammed chastain into the wall just because he got a bad restart and decided if he was going to lose some positions , then Ross was going to lose some positions.
Denny almost every week talks about how hard it is to win a race in nascar right now but suddenly this weeks episode he says it’s way too easy to win a race and therefore win and your in should go away and only the top few guys in points should make the playoffs. The cognitive dissonance of this guy is unreal. No wonder entire stadiums of people boo him every week.
My thing is you Denny and Joey as well have been the ones dumping people on last lap passes MANY times. Bunch of whiny over paid candya**es in my opinion.
When you told the truth, days later, you got in trouble. That jerk admitted it right there and nobody batted an eye about it. You and Joey have every reason to be pissed.
I just hate that the playoffs causes these things. What's worse, Austin had zero chance of winning the championship. He's taking the place of a more consistent team who has a realistic shot at the cup.
Hey man, I've I've always been a fan of yours. I don't care what goes on, but you are one of my favorites. Now I gotta say my favorite driver is the 24# but I'll be honest you are one of my top 3 favorites. I wish you the best of luck this year. Tonight, I realized after this episode of the Netflix special, I really think you what have what it takes to be a Champion! You are a thoughtful driver and you actually put what you've learned to the course not anything else, but you just put down what you know on track and that means ALOT to me. If you ever need some extra help on the team let me know! I am located in NC and would love to help you win this Championship!
Fan of the sport since the late 80's. I don't always agree with everything I hear on here, but it is awesome you guys take the time and take advantage of technology to reach out to us. Been a long journey since the days of sitting on the porch on a Sunday listening to the race on the radio! See yall at Daytona in a couple of weeks.
Quickly becoming a fan of Dennys after not being a fan for a long time. I am a diehard Logano fan since 2010. Glad to see both fan bases on the same page for the first time in literally forever.
Not an absolute Austin fan, but Denny, you and Joey have driven with your heads up your rearends so many times how can you begin to complain about how that scenario played out. It's evident from the past that both of you would have done basically the same thing if you needed that win.
In my opinion, the whole overtime situation needs to be gotten rid of. I understand the fact that NASCAR wants the fans to see a GREEN finish, but more often than not, more cars are destroyed in the excess laps than during the regular scheduled distance. You look at the past before overtime existed, when the scheduled distance was reached, the winner was decided. NASCAR wants to preach about saving the teams money, this would save money by less Carnage. The desperation of the 3 was uncalled for, yes. Without the overtime rule, the 3 would still have gotten the win WITHOUT tarnishing the overall great race we had
I feel as though if they want to keep a “playoff format”, it should be 12 spots. They can do the “elimination rounds”, but leave a 4 race bracket for the final four cars. Of possible, make it one race of each discipline ie 1 short track, 1 1.5-2 mile, 1 restrictor plate, and unfortunately yes 1 road course. Best driver of those final four by final race’s end would be champion. This at least keeps their gimic of wanting to feel like sports with playoff systems. This also would take care of the “win and you’re in” as most seasons we have at least 12 winners so you would have to run well too.
i look back on tony stewart's interview after a talladega race where he says something like we have to extend the race until we wreck at least 50% of the cars nascar has to look in the mirror and evaluate how effective the "entertainment" has been to the integrity of the sport
I appreciated Tony Stewart but was not a fan until I began to listen to mature Tony on his Sirius radio show. The same here; while one of my sons is a Denny fan, I have been just an admirer of his talent. I greatly appreciate the maturity, the view, the opinions, and the honesty of "mature Denny". Keep it coming, keep speaking up, and good luck!
He was Pissed Off how did you want him to react? Yes it was dangerous because of the crowd of people in the pit lane but why were there so many people in that spot though?
*denny junks the 5 for several different wins*-“that’s racin” *denny loses a race because someone did it to him but a little harder*-“we’re not getting seen as a legitimate sport, NASCAR NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING”
This ain’t on Dennis. Or Logano. Or Dillon as much as some people blame him completely which he has some blame obviously. This is all on NASCAR for a dumbass playoff format and not doing jack shit about driving standards. All nascar has to do is say “yall handle yall selves, but here’s some red lines, and if you cross them you’re gonna get the book thrown at you.” Even freakin local short tracks can do that, but the premier stock car series in the world can’t?
I love Reddick putting the bumper to Dillion in turn 1 after the checkered flag. What if they suspend Dillion for hooking you and then don’t grant him a playoff waiver. I think that draws the line pretty clearly.
Based. Dillon fucked up. I would only be okay if this was a different type of Motorsport known as Banger Racing, it's less professional but Hella fun to watch. This behavior should NEVER be allowed for NASCAR as it's not very sportsman like
28:46 Denny is such a good rep for the sport. This entire time of him explaining his side, he constantly put the 22 before himself. They have BAD history. That shows you how much this means to the garage. Denny is the rep of the entire garage in ownership meetings.
There's a difference between aggressive racing and outright wrecking someone from 3 car lengths back. I'm not a fan of all three of these drivers. It doesn't matter how good he ran during the bulk of the race. The fact is that he wrecked the 22, knowing he would never have made that corner if he hadn't hit the 22 car. He then downshifted and full throttled into the 11 car. The data shows it. It's a NASCAR problem. They need to do better than this.
I came down from Canada. I was at the driver intro area cheering! And I told you a nice try when you walked through the garage after the race. Look I'm just a fan in the stands, that was absolutely a crazy epic finish.
I think Logano contact is fine (no different than you taking Elliot out), if he purposefully right reared you, then that's wrong In the moment it looked like he ducked under the 22 and he came down under the 22 and you were exiting the corner coming up. I would hope no drivers purposefully right rear anyone. Dude you realize this is the #3 car and your talking about dirty drivers should all be banned and penalized when Nascar was built off these kinds of people. I watched the #3 wreck cars for just being in the way mid race.... Not for a win ... But ok . I don't like the right rear but guess what dirty drivers are a part of it.
Haven't seen a more desperate move that crossed the line WORSE than this since RB Billy Cole pulled a pistol & shot 3 defenders on his way to the end zone to score the winning touchdown for the Los Angeles Stallions......
Hey Denny, ever moved someone for a win? I thought so. Shut up about integrity. You’re part of the problem, and i am gld he got you and Logano to cry at the same time! Hahahahaha
Showing my age here but Denny wrecked joey at California i believe kyle busch ended up winning the race and denny broke something. Those actions created the results. Kyle Busch dumping larson after the failed slide job with a flat tire is one of the best finishes i remember
Just take the damn top 16 in points. That would no longer give incentive to race like this but rather reward consistency. As for penalizing Austin, park him for a race and don't provide a playoff waiver.
@@TheRetiredtechOK, lemme put it this way. _In literally every other high-level racing series_ he'd be disqualified, fined, and potentially banned for at least the next race. Wrecking not just one, but _two_ other drivers intentionally, with the driver admitting to it multiple times afterwards, would arguably see him permanently banned from several series outright.
@@griffinfaulkner3514 NASCAR existed before all those others. If you like those other racing series, go watch them instead. What you're doing is the equivalent of building your house near a racetrack and then complaining about the noise. You knew what it was about before going in.
Hamlin cries to Nascar all the time except when HE wrecks someone. Cried to Nascar to suspend the #9 car after getting wrecked when Hamlin wrecked the #9 laps before in the Charlotte race last year. His driver Bubba Wallace wrecked the #5 car on purpose then got out of the car wanting to fight Lawson. There's no whining in Nascar except when you cry on your podcast every Monday. Wait, didn't Hamlin admit wrecking someone on purpose on his podcast last season? The #22 driver has wrecked drivers on purpose too.
Well Hamlin, I guess you don’t remember wrecking people for the win. Hell, you just wreck people in the middle of races. Quit whining when it’s turned around on you. Same goes for Lagono. Quit crying when other drivers act like you. 😭😭😭
Solution: Let Dillon keep the win, but strip the playoff eligibility from it. If you allow this, you're going to be a rolling demolition derby, and serious injuries will result.
The "tough call" for Nascar is to say "no more green/white/checker", any caution with 5 laps or less to go and the race is over and the winner is whoever crossed the finish line leading the race the previous time by. Last night by that rule and AD/#3 still your winner, as he should have been.
I am so glad that NASCAR did the right thing and didn't reward Austin Dillon with a playoffs spot. Very important for Nascar to look like a serious motor sport with a balance of entertainment and racing on a high level.
Denny was spot on with every comment and opinion he said. Nascar is slipping down the drain every week with every rule they dont enforce and every gimmick they start. This point system was the beginning of the downfall. I personally liked the old format where if you kick every bodys ass so much that you wrap up the championship with five races left. The system now is basically whoever is the luckiest that week wins which is stupid. That definitely was the most chicken shit move of the year. The team members celebrating was cheesy too but we all know they dont get to do it much.
On #3’s radio you can hear his spotter saying “wreck him wreck him yeah!” Totally dirty driving by the #3. Reminded me of the #3 twenty five years ago.
The people in all these comment sections defending Dillon purely out of spite/hatred for Hamlin/Logan is staggering. One thing has nothing to do with the other. That wasn’t racing. That was pure hot garbage by Dillon. On the dirt tracks, and even back when NASCAR actually enforced rules, this win is given to the 22 and the 3 is fined.
And Dillon learned it from watching hamlin and logano doing it dozens of times.. denny and logano should sue Austin for plagiarism for repeating the same things they say when they wreck drivers to take the win.
This is a watershed moment for NASCAR....if you suspended Wallace in 2023 for wrecking Larson IN RESPONSE to Larson wrecking him, then I don't see how you let Dillon intentionally wrecking two cars without provocation and give him a $25000 fine that Pop Pop will pay for him, anyway.
That aint racing !!!! You guys need to get some driving standards in Nascar, at the end of the day this comes back on Nascar itself, for not having a driving standards and enforcing those standards
You know why DBs don't push WRs on their ass when tracking the ball? Because there's a penalty. The precedent is set. Can't build a sturdy home without a foundation.
Suspend him for a race ...... and no waiver for the missed race. Rule says drivers must compete in all 26 regular season races to be eligible for the playoffs.
We don’t want the sanctioning body making judgment calls on the outcome of a race. That’s a slippery slope. We don’t want to be like F1. That spotter business is silly,it doesn’t matter what he says,and there wasn’t enough time for the 3 to react to any radio input.
Everything else aside, Denny,,, I have seen you wreck people to win, I have seen lagano wreck people to win…. If you were in Austin’s situation( the winless streak, the chance to get in the chase, the sponsors at the Track)are you going to ((honestly))say you wouldn’t have done the same. We have seen you dump people to win, come on man.
It seems like NASCAR has backed themselves into a corner with the combination of the Next Gen car and the current playoff format. Like Denny said, drivers are making desperate moves in desperate times so they can be relevant in the playoffs. Something is going to have to change, either the car or the playoff format. I believe the Next Gen car would work with the Winston Cup Points system because that format forces drivers to be consistent throughout the season rather than get lucky one race. However if they want to keep the current playoff system, then craftsmanship needs to be brought back into the sport. Some guys focus on aerodynamics while others prioritize chassis development or engine quality, and that creates separation in the field which mitigates the threat of someone pulling a Ross Chastain or Austin Dillion, as entertaining as it may have been, it screws other drivers out of potential wins and playoff advancement. You can’t have your cake and eat it too NASCAR.
I get that Austin Dillon wrecked him on purpose and that's not good but the same thing happened between Terry Labonte and Dale Earnhardt and Kyle Busch and Dale Jr and so many other times so does it really matter that much. This is why we need a new championship format.
Give Dillon the points and the win, but no free-pass to the championship. There has to be a penalty for endangering other drivers like that. "Win at all costs" doesn't include risking others' lives. Also, I recall Denny being a lot less about strict enforcement of the rules as it pertained to "restarts"
