Depeche Mode - Here is the House (Demo) 

Electrosleaze

'And I feel your warmth And it feels like home And there's someone Calling on the telephone Let's stay home It's cold outside And I have so much To confide to you'

I like ur opinion , but I recon we cant compare really the two persons. Look at the spanis taster of the have and to hold or the Alan's version on the MFTM. both great, and no one can refuse the part of Alan's part from the DM's success

Alan took production from MftM and his input increased but earlier already was hard working in studios with Gareth and Daniel.

agree 100%! I love Alan as much but let's be honest, this demo, the one for "shake the disease" and "lie to me" one shows clearly the melodic lines where written totally by Martin, in these 3 cases actually everything was done by him beside mix/production. What was really beautiful over the time, was this "ping pong" between them, rarely see in a project 2 genius persons, beside maybe The Beatles

@@attilaremzso7404 No one refuses it but in all comment sections i see Alan's name. "Alan this, Alan that". Fine, i don't mind it at all when it's in healthy doses, but those people's comments sound like they think Alan did all. That's what i do not like! Clearly, Alan wouldn't have come up with Strangelove, Shake the Disease, Everything Counts and so on if it wasn't for Martin's melodies and progressions, since, by their own words, in earlier years they stayed close to the demos. Which demos they were? Which melodies they were? Martin's and it seems like no one gives him credit for the music of DM! This annoys me. DM is my all time fav band and i know who did what and who didn't do. I just want to live in a world where BOTH of them are credited and cherished for the MUSIC. Not Alan for the music, and Martin for the lyrics. Unfair, man. Totally unfair. I know what Alan did, i know DM doesn't sound the same without him (tho honestly if he stayed, they would've sounded with the same darkness like years ago and i wouldn't have liked that probably, my opinion, what happened - happened) but everything the people talk is pretty much about him. And DM is not only him who did ALL. Unfair and sad. Just a little bit appreciation for Martin's music is all i want. I want to see people talking about his genius with coming up with these songs but i haven't read even one such comment. I know they exist but they are overshadowed by... you know what.

@@trancer4e4life okay, so let's see this more clearly. The only person who was educated to music really was AW. Forget it, ... music can go on without that sometimes pretty well. Than we need consider only the history of DM and the facts. Alan was apply for an advertising but was 5 years older... the three whos are there still today were probably never forget that cheat ever. 5 years means a lot, especcially when U are young. I know, as I have a brother like that. But when U are older and come from a family was more organized and things... again that can be a huge gap. AW was more principaled and decided to quit after SOFAD. the other three wanted still live and act like teenagers. So what can we say about the studio work? Marin is a genious, right. I like his deep dark relegious and anti relegious ideas... Whatever. There was only one man to sit and sit in the studio all the time and fcuk the fun around, but give a fcuk about the sounds.... and beside the MLG lirycs that was lift to the top the DM. :) I don't know what else to say really. Flood could tell more maybe about the very last period. Ask him :) ;) Peace and thanks to take time to write to me. Take care

His demos are great, but just for very simple songs, such as this one. I don't think he was very good harmonically, here he basically just stacks melodies on top of melodies, which are great, I've learned them all, but he isn't a very dynamic composer. I can't imagine him being able to orchestrate something like Black Celebration (the song), or It Doesn't Matter Two all by himself and you can hear the differences between how A Broken Frame sounds vs how Construction Time Again sounds.

@@Syfoll I think he is actually fantastic harmonically (at least he developed into it) - the ‘counterpoint’ style was more of an early stylistic choice.. the 2 main choices for the band were avoiding playing chords and avoiding using the same sound twice.. but for a pop songwriter some of his songs are quite advanced harmonically underneath at all.. that is not to discount Alan’s production choices but I think the songs are fully musically formed

@@basehead617 I agree with you. Martin’s grasp on melody and harmony is very good. In fact I’m shocked he had such a firm grasp on songwriting at such a young age.

C'mon. I was thinking the opposite! That small change gives this song such emotional depth, sublimely capturing the depth and intimacy of a couple in love sharing a home home truly feels like. Body. And Soul. Frikkin' genius!

This. That change truly takes the song to the level of "timeless classic".

Ik a lot of people criticized DM for the SOTU demos, but I like some of the demos more than the final songs

@@revatorjohn same with the Delta Machine demos.

mich stört das jedes mal Mr. Wilder vergessen wird...

Ich don't think so. It was titled "Colours and Shapes".

In my opinion, it's very clear when a song changed very little, and when Alan's presence is more strongly felt. Martin-dominated songs are very monophonic feeling, there isn't that much harmony, it's just stacking melodies and countetmelodies on top of each other, while songs where Alan changed more are much richer harmonically and more synchopated rhythmically.

@@Syfoll yup... also, if it has a drumloop, that's Alan's presence.. lol. personally I feel like Martin's demos prove he didn't need any special producer or musician band member to make their music special.. Alan to me was more like a good remixer

Why did not discover this 3 years ago?

biospark64 This is absolutely Martin. He's singing melody and harmony. And yeah Martin has a deep baritone and tenor. He's a great singer. My wife is obsessed with Martin and got me hooked on DM a long time ago.

Yes, both are important, and overpraising one, devalues the other. To have the classic Depeche sound, you need both and of course Dave's voice

The album version wins it but listen to the Live acoustic version when Martin plays it in San Francisco during the Violator tour… it may sound if not better just as good as the album.

he contributed nothing to this song, essentially

Eso es una tontería Martin hacía las demos muy basicas, de hecho la estructura del tema entera ya está en su demo y después Alan,el productor y Alan o el productor y el grupo ( Ya que no sabemos que influencía tuvo cada uno en el estudio en esta cancion en particular ) la refinaron ... pero de ahí a decir que toda la calidad se deben a él es una autentica barbaridad ...

Manuel Carballo el crédito es de Martín concuerdo bastante si bien suena muy simple, en la interpretación de Dave no hay grandes cambio, Alan debería llevarse el crédito si ha cambiado la estructura para mejor pero no cambio casi nada, por lo tanto el 80% del crédito es de Martín.

A beatlesque 6th

Yep. I know. I have been re listening to so much of their songs, but I always go back to their early albums. Something about them. SO awesome!

He does not. Most of his demos were made with a simple keyboard.

@@DepModMuffin OK.

@@DepModMuffin However at 4:24 I really hear it like a guitar.

Edit : Plus he said that he composes at first with his guitar, so it is not impossible.

@@alregis8668 He does, but the demos presented to the band were almost always made on a synth, especially in the early days.

what about colours and genders merging together ?

Scott Smith without Martin there are NO songs. He created the structure,melodies AND lyrics. This is just a home demo like Martin always creates alone. Alan goes in with big pro studio equipment and adds fills and affects. Of course it sounds better. Martin could make the whole album himself, but he always wanted to be in a band. Even Alan credits Martin with All the songs, except for the few Alan write on earlier albums. Stating he added affects later and wanted more credit for producing. He has always stated he isn't prolific like Martin at coming up with great songs.

you truly are the biggest idiot of all time. this is a demo recording of a new song, he wrote more than 40 for BC and recorded all of them as demos. you truly believe that this would have been the album version if Alan wasnt't in the band... have you thought about that Martin isn't the lead singer? have you thought about that Depeche Mode is a band and not a home studio project like Recoil?

@@FlickanIDetKroktaRummet what you're saying does line up with what Alan Wilder himself said when he left the band. Are you saying he's a liar?

@@FlickanIDetKroktaRummet listen to Some Great Reward, and then listen to Hydrology &1+2, and maybe it will sink into your head that the samples used in the Recoil recordings are the same as the samples used in Some Great Reward...because Alan created them. Not Martin. Not Fletch. Not Dave. Have more respect for the man.

beitos44 from construction time again right through to SOFAD you can hear Alan's production/engineer skills. Whilst they did have Gareth Jones and Flood, it was ultimately Alan that made the Mode so domineering from their best periods in time. 🕶

Without Vince there would have been no DM as Vince was pretty much the driving force behind it.