@@acidonia150 the dodos have driven the penguins from their land, as the war rages on, the dodo forces are supported by New Zealand's Kakapo and the wild turkey. the penguin forces are forced to retreat into Antarctica after being fiercely separated from armed forces, and all civilians and people of the penguin nation were exiled to Antarctica to die from the cold they didn't die though.. and they're making a comeback.
apolgy for bad english it is my first languagen’t where were you when club pengin die i was at house eating dorito when phone ring “club pengin is kil” “no”
*The penguins you see here are the banned accounts* Notice how the original CP community sees the penguins who swear are the brave ones so they send them to war *The war between disney and club penguin continues*
Club Penguin was kinda dark to begin with like that one event where Herbert sent clubpenguin into an Ice age so he can horde the sun so he could be warm while at the same time they have a death calendar telling us that as the cold rises we will all freeze to death and also Sensie's backstory where he thought he had murdered his friend while playing around with card jitsu
I like how even though it’s made in Japan, all the signs and books are in English, due to it being set in America (shown by the Equipment), that’s some detail you want in a show/movie
This is unique because other animes use English in the anime because it took place in the US like some animes have horrible English while others sound natural in English but this anime is entirely Japanese.
How is that considered any significant detail? To make the surrounding language be that of whatever language is spoken in the country it takes place in seems like the most basic detail you could include. As in it would look weird if it wasn't correct
I initially saw Jack as a womaniser too but then it was made clear that his relationship with his doctor colleague was actually the real deal; he never had intentions of leaving his doctor gf for Jill. I felt like he was just testing Mike's dedication to his relationship with Jill; especially considering he was a newcomer to town. Not that Mike seemed dedicated to this relationship. I will give him and by extension, the anime, the benefit of the doubt; we can't pretend to understand how a veteran suffering from PTSD thinks. I wouldn't recommend this anime due to its age but despite being about penguins, it is the most realistic human drama I've seen in an anime and faithfully recreates the tone and style of its 70s hollywood influences. Its a welcome change from today's slice of lives that wouldn't know the first thing about realistic human interactions; and has penguins in Vietnam of course.
I don't think Jack was testing Mike, I think Jack Originally viewed his doctor colleague as a causal hook up, then started to see her as more, cause if Jack was testing Mike, he would have failed hard. PTSD is a huge factor with Mike, but I feel like the movie could have emphasized his struggle with PTSD more, make the viewer more empathic towards him, you know, Does Mike feel like a monster after what he's done in the war? Is that why he's so easily becomes distance from Jill? It could have delved deeper into ideas like these, cause Jack's whole role in the movie just kinda felt like filler, he could have been easily written out of the whole movie, maybe Jill wants to get serious with Mike and that causes him to distance himself from her, then we'd have basically the same movie without Jack. I hope what I said related to the movie, I went entirely from memory, and it's been a while since I watched it, lol. But thanks for your comment, it really got me thinking about the movie again.
Crimson Dreams Were it not for the anime penguins; this film would be like any other late 60s/70s drama film from hollywood. With classic films like these, there really isn't a right or wrong interpretation; bar the directors own vision. Its all about show not tell. All the beautiful establishing shots of pastoral America, the drawn out atmospheric scenes with only music and the way character thoughts are never fully divulged to the viewer. Its a very sentimental and realistic style of filmmaking that offers far more depth than modern in-your face, tell-you-everything-so-short-attention-span-people-arent-confused films.
Crimson Dreams Personally Jacks role was very important for me, he was the catalyst that kickstarted the complication of the movie. It was through his confrontation that the seed of doubt and withdrawal was planted in Mike. It helped both the audience and Mike himself suddenly realise how his torment from war could deny him a normal relationship with Jill or any woman for that matter. Im sure galvanising Mike to overcome his wartime demons and live happily with Jill was in the best interest of both audience and most of the characters alike. It is clear that Mike failed to do so several times; leading to the hopeful but ambigious ending at the symbolic crossroad that was also so typical of 70s films. The film was definitely mature enough to forego cookie cutter happy endings in favour of the director's own vision. The possibility that Mike may not ever overcome his Ptsd and live happily with Jill is fully implied and makes for a much more powerful ending for me personally.
It would have been more powerful ending, and it almost looked like it was gonna go for a somber ending with Mike not seeing Jill again. It wouldn't surprise if the Suntory company asked for the happier ending, after all at the end of the day Mike and Jill are mascots for a brewery. Like of Bud Light asked for a Spuds MacKenzie movie they wouldn't want it to end with him dying of cirrhosis from drinking too much.
This is aimed towards children. It exposes them to violence and its negative effects without the gore. The part that you say wouldn't matter had significant lines that teaches a lesson. "If you think you love her and can make her happy, you're either full of yourself, or a liar." Literally, later in the movie, his PTSD took over and was a potential danger to Jill herself. That was partially what Jack meant in his dialogue. Mike may think he can make her happy, but his tendency to avoid her and become easily provoked (Jack claiming Jill as his fianceé), was how he demonstrated his "love", when all he needed to do what stay by her side and believe in her.
@@HBKnowItAll I really feel like this was made for children with no context of WWII, and the effects it had on the elderly whom survived the war and, consequently, the "Little Boy". If ever they wondered why ojii-san had an "episode", the events throughout the movie would help build some understanding and relatability.
@@HBKnowItAll Yeah, but the topic of PTSD is a consequence that veterans of both wars share. Since the Japanese weren't really involved in the Vietnam War, it was a perfect means to detach the audience (veteran or civilian) from any personal connection to violence the battlefield, or other trauma inducing incidents . Hence, the (implied) American perspective. Grave of the Fireflies uses another technique to detach the audience by narrating the story from the perspective of the main character's ghost (so we know what to expect by the end of the story). I like GotF because it did not focus on veterans, but rather the struggle of youth in times of war. Nor did it focus on violence on the battlefield, but rather the animosity garnered by their own relatives and strangers alike. Something that even Vietnam veterans experienced when returning to America, post-war. In the end, the consequences of war need be exposed to children, so they may avoid it, or become better leaders, lest they suffer the same fate portrayed (splendidly) in both films.
So they went from an anime Penguin beer mascot to having the character be in its own movie about the Vietnam War and PTSD? Um what? What was the thought process behind? What do penguins, anime, the Vietnam War, and PTSD have to do with beer? How was this a good venue for advertising? I haven't been this confused about an anime since the ending of Evangelion.
lastswordfighter none anime industry in the 80s is like a wild wild west of anime. A lot of ideas thrown around and tried and it was a weird but amazing era
Back in the 80s Japan was in a prosperous bubble economy and animators were huge fans of Western cinema. This studio probably got a big budget signing for this movie deal and decided they would do something provocative and iconoclastic by combining a contemporary war drama with modern shallow consumer cute aesthetic, not just as a subtle critique on ephemeral pop culture backdropped against the serious gravitas of reality but also because such an experimental contrast would be unique in its subversive silliness.
If Mike is a Vietnam veteran, he wouldn't have been treated like a hero when he got home. You should hear some of the stories Vietnam Vets tell...it's awful what people did to them when they got home, especially considering how many were drafted. NONE of them could have known what would awaited them in Vietnam. That war pushed men pass there limits. Edit: Unless this is earlier in the war, then it makes sense.
You do have to take in the fact this was made as a Japanese film, and they might have assumed that Americans at the time would have reacted the same way they did during WW2 when their sons returned from war... Instead of what actually happened. It could have also been that they simply wanted to portray Mike's leaving of his hometown as more of a abandoning of innocence rather than him just leaving out of spite.
actually in the beginning of the vietnam war the feelings toward veterans were very good and they loved them however when tactics and showings of what some soldiers did to Vietnamese people were leaked the public view did a 180°
In Penguin Memories 2: FUBAR (released and marketed to mainly a English speaking audience in 1994), the plot of the first continues with Mike having completely forgotten about Jill and he later went on to re-apply to the army in 1981, expecting the US to intervene directly in Afghanistan- however, he was denied due to his court record, and suspicions of him having PTSD- they sent him to a veteran's hospital. On his bus ride to the hospital, he sees a advertisement for the Pengu Military Corps, a PMC that is currently undergoing anti-soviet operations in Afghanistan for dc western countries. Seeing his chance to get back in action and avenge his fallen squad mates by fighting the people who backed the North Vietnamese government, the Soviet Union. A training montage is played, in which he trains on a punching bag, runs laps around the track on hospital grounds, does push ups and eventually climaxes with him knocking the punching bag off its chain. The song used for this was "Basket Case" from Green Day's hit new Dookie album. This choice of song would later be slightly criticized by reviewers as being too happy to match the darker tone of the film, and coming out after the time in the movie, said that it was still a very good choice nonetheless After the training montage ends, he escapes the hospital via climbing out a window and jumping into a manure truck, after saying "It's my only choice... at least its got a cushion...". After climbing out of the manure and hanging on the back gate of the truck, he sees a garments truck. He cusses under his breath, and the camera zooms out. It refocuses in on Jill, having looked for Mike a entire year, has given up and found a new love interest- a member of the board of executives for the biggest airline company in the world- Arctic Airlines. Jill feels a sense of discomfort and danger in her sleep, and tells her fiancé she’s going to see a doctor. The about-to-be-engaged boyfriend, Jameson, is a kind and generous penguin- and offers her a free first-class flight to Paris, and a month-long reservation at a five-star hotel in order to help her relax which will hopefully have her sleep healthily again. This is a easy trip for Jameson as the amount of influence the airliner holds is immense in the world of flightless birds. She accepts, and on the plane she experiences more dangerous foreboding. The camera cuts back to Mike, now headed on a cargo ship re-designed into a massive scale troop transport (with the cargo crates having been molded into the boat's deck and turned into quarters and other facilities while the original ships quarters are turned into the rooms holding the required utilities for the massive amount of people, i.e. food storage, electrical generators, etc) to dock at a port in Chabahar, where they will then go on-foot to Afghanistan and support the local mujaheddin fighters. Along the way, another penguin, Muhammad, accidentally pisses his pants on the trip and asks mike for help- he fixes the problem by pouring water on the rest of his clothing so it looks like he sweated. Muhammad says that he "Owes one" to mike. Once Mike and his fellow brigade of mercenaries arrive at the base camp, they get their assignments. Mike is luckily assigned to a Artillery Support team, where they have rocket artillery launchers (as a enhancement from western countries to help the PMC besides the money) and even 5 non-nuclear IRBM's in case of the US deciding to directly invade Afghanistan- which would be used to attack high value targets such as the Afghanistan-Uzbekistan Friendship Bridge (which was at the time, the major route for soviet forces into the country) or a large incoming army. He is the leader of a squad of 4 other units. It turns out the four others also have major anti-soviet sentiment, as one of them defected from the soviet union after his wife was sent to a gulag. They decide to hijack the IRBM's and direct them at Moscow, as it is the capital of the USSR and where they figure- the people who ordered the backing of North Vietnam are. Jill has been in France for a while and has figured out why she is having these forebodings: Mike is going to die in Afghanistan- and obtains the name of the base he is serving at from the vision. She calls Jameson and asks for a ride to the Afghanistan military base to visit her "Brother" who is in the merc company. Jameson doesn't want Jill to go into a war zone and die, but he reluctantly calls the PMC's chief of the base and tells that Jill is coming to visit Mike; the chief of the base also falls for the lie that Mike is Jill's brother and allows her to visit him for a day. Mike is planning with his squad on how to obtain access to the missiles when it turns out the squad who was manning the missile silos were discharged for safety concerns after it was found out that they were all drunk on the job. They turn up to their posts and realize a major flaw in the plan: What after? They decide to frame the Mujaheddin as if they knocked them out and hijacked the missiles, and launched them in vengeance. The next morning, Mike is suddenly given free time for the rest of the day- he finds out that Jill has found him, and his visiting him. He orders his squadmates to lay low and do their normal duties while he will somehow ascertain anesthetic for the plot from Jill. He fakes being asleep when Jill enters his room, and acts groggy while reconnecting with Jill. Jill tells him about Jameson, and Mike congratulates her for finding a "better husband" in the words of Mike. She asks him why he is acting all groggy, and he says he has trouble sleeping and asks Jill if she can fetch him some Anesthetic. Jill goes to ask a medic also employed by the mercs, who happened to be Muhammad for some Anesthetic to help Mike sleep. Muhammad, without any other consideration immediately gives her some anesthetic, as he owes Mike from the urine-related incident. The day after Jill visited, Mike and his squaddmates are ready to pull the plan. The plan goes very well- the IRBM's are launched and headed for Moscow, and the five unconcious squadmates are dreaming about their victory. However, The premier has another idea. By the time that the threat is verified- its too late. Most of the high-ranking soviet government officals are dead because it just so happened that it was the anniversary of Penin- (penguin lenin) a celebration was taking place- and the remaining few? They authorized a nuclear launch on the base. They thought about launching nukes to the western world, but they realize that they werent responsible and dont launch any missiles their way. Mike stirs out of his dream as he is repeatedly shouted at by a familiar voice, "Mike! Mike!". He wakes up and finds Jill, who never left. She said that she figured out his plan, to launch the IRBMs and take out those who killed his squaddmates, as she learned about his vietnam war past from the PMC. Mike replies that he is sorry about all of this, but Jill says she doesnt care. As they come together in one final imbrace, the screen turns white, then yellow. The credits roll on a barren desert wasteland.
"Give a farmer seed and he makes food Give a musician an instrument and he creates melody Give a soilder an enemy and he creates nothing" - Micky mouse
“Art for art's sake is an empty phrase. Art for the sake of truth, art for the sake of the good and the beautiful, that is the faith I am searching for.” - George Sand
Depends on local. That was the sentiment in urban areas, but rural areas were often pretty reverent. Especially since the vets going back home to small towns were known personally by a lot of the residents.
I mean Vietnam was literally broadcasted on TV, and events like the My Lai Massacre showed that US soldiers were in no way above murdering clearly unarmed civilians (and also rapes, including to literal 12 year olds), not to mention the obvious civilian deaths from bombings, Napalm attacks, and Agent Orange usage in order take out jungles.
@@jacobhargiss3839 Also since in small towns everyone tends to know each other so of one family lost a son a lot of people in the town would have probably known the guy. Hence the warmer reception.
The worst part is this little movie thing is actually preaty well done and I like it (but club or penguin was my childhood and I can’t look at the penguins without lmao)
To be honest, this is an excellent exploration of PTSD and war related trauma that kind of made me think of "The Deer Hunter". I cringed every time his friends and family demanded to hear his "war stories" or asked him whether he killed anyone. What no one seems to understand is Mike's desire to experience a quiet peace. After I got back from Iraq, it was all I could do to make people stop trying to drag me into their business, or drag my business out of me. I get Mike. When Jack told him that he didn't really want to get in his way, it was an admission that he let his emotions take the wheel and that as one military man to another, he was sorry for what he said and would step out of the way. I get him too. It may be difficult for some folks to understand these characters, but that has nothing to do with the writing of this story. Whoever wrote this has as strong an understanding of human psychology as Naoki Urasawa or Kentarou Miura. This may seem laughable but, to the right people, several of these characters make perfect sense. What the writer didn't have was much of an understanding of the American court system, basic civil rights, castle law, and a reasonable expectation of how a music producer could behave. All of which had to occur for the sake of forcing Mike back into being a drifter at the end of the movie. But considering Cool Hand Luke starts with a war veteran thrown into an absurd jail sentence just for public vandalism and intoxication, I'll look the other way.
The mascot was a hero. He fought for his country But I feel like he would've been treated like a horrible person, given that's what actually happened to the soldiers
So it's just a huge coincidence that this beer company's mascot looks exactly like a Club Penguin character, right? I'm suddenly getting flashbacks to when Homer first discovered Mr. Sparkle...
A lot of the plot points, like the bit with jack, deal with mikes inability to trust the world around him and how that works treats him, which you seemed to have missed. The plot points with Jill deal with a character who has to learn to trust herself but unlike mike doesn’t suffer from the ptsd. A lot of their interactions are mike deciding to give up on society only to have her form the only bridge between mike and the world that has given up on him.
Kinda critical. I'm someone who suffers PTSD due to being shot and losing a close childhood friend to drugs so I understand his withdrawal to the world, his thoughts regarding everyone will be better of without him. 8/10 would recommend to others. 10/10 for this vid.
I think this OVA is kind of a symbol of Japan in the 80s: so much money around to throw it in really weird ideas because why not? We’ll get people to buy our beer with this theatrical Penguin PTSD anime right?? Gun-ho!
You never know what a person is going thru or been thru this movie explains that. I remember when I would wake up to my brother at night hiding under the table scared out of his mind for mortars. Thankfully he had me and my mother by his side.
This is graphic footage of club penguin players fighting Disney. Unfortunately the players lost and now they are playing different games... Truly a sad story
When I watched this i thought this would be from a huge channel but this only has 540 subs the production level is really good, good job, well 541 including me
Ok, so, hold on.... I've been an anime fan most of my life and somehow the existence of this movie has NEVER been mentioned in any anime social circle I've been a part of or any website or anything? I'd think this would be one of those movies that anime fans wouldn't shut up about! So how did this one elude me? >_>
Anime started becoming unpopular in the 80s and blew up in 1989 When Dragon Ball Z was released, there is a RU-vidr named kenny lauderdale which reviews other obscure 80s animes.
