@@HHCatamarans The Wynn’s couldn’t have picked a more incredible company to work with than HH Catamarans, especially now that Seth Hynes is part of their team!
I'm a 60 year old Midwestern American factory worker. I will never sail, but I am so thrilled that there are companies like yours. I'm impressed with your innovative designs and your passion. Bravo. Oh, I follow the Wynns on RU-vid. That's how I know about you. 😉
I am excited that the Wynns have announced that their dream boat is the HH44 and production is now underway for them! I'm looking forward to following this and their channels for the creation and splash of this modern yacht.
The Wynns are 2 very smart cookies. I have been a fan/subsriber of theirs since they switched from traveling on the roads to the seas. In the future I am going to be making a move from house to a cat. I have 4 cats I am looking at. Yours is now moving up to 2nd position. Thank you for the Episodes. Happy Sailing ⛵
What a beautiful and forward thinking, innovative new cat. Just wanted to add a thank you for helping out the Wynns with their dream. Looking forward to seeing the new cat in all its glory.
1 Feb 2024. Nikki and Jason Wynn spent a lot of time researching boats vs their needs and wants for their dream blue water Cat. They have sailed a thousands of miles and decided on buying a new mid size Cat. And then they discoved HH Catamarans.who offered a Hybrid Electric 44 foot with everything on there wish list. The should take delivery this week and we have seen it via their RU-vid channel "Gone with the Wynns". All you need to know about HH Catamarans is that the Wynns picked them to build their dream. If it perfect for the Wynns that all I need two know. Nikki sold me after she took everyone on a tour of their HH44-OC .
Came here from the Wynns channel out of Curiosity :P and boy oh boy this boat is a beauty! Can't wait to see them take their new HH44 on its first voyage!
Did you read my dreams on the ocean ether? James you are an outstanding naval architect. Bloody well done. I hate fumes, love speed without compromising safety, love electric propulsion with torque. I just hope i can afford one!
The most innovative mid 40' catamaran out there. Should have studied harder in school to have found a better job, to have made more money, so that I could have bought this HH44...
All of a sudden there is alot of competition in the 44 foot performance cruising cat market and HH has really brought it with this unique design. Love it. Truely seems to be without compromise, with the exception of maybe price… Can we get a video detailing the differences between the HH44 and the OC44?
It was so cool to see this. I am a self taught sailor who misses her 25 foot C and C and am thinking about living on a catamaran. About 3 years ago I was watching videos and wondered why the idea my bicycle had when I was a little girl had not been employed. I recall thinking how brilliant it was that there was a generator attached to the wheel of my bike which powered the light and it seemed odd catamaran manufacturers had not thought to capitalize on the the prop to generate electricity. well done you
Thanks for sharing an interesting design. The parallel hybrid looks sensibly designed and should be flexible, reliable and repairable. The swing helms are a nice feature, and the folding transom seems like it should increase safety and keep the cockpit dryer. The flat coachroof and lower boom are good for both better performance and more room for solar. It also makes both the center of gravity and center of effort lower for greater stability and efficiency. Thanks for emphasizing cleaner energy. Electric drive is a great synergy for sailing, and the large solar array should make the boat very energy independent with good backup for both propulsion and house loads from the Diesels. (3+ kW of solar should easily power all house loads, however.) Overall this design offers a lot of redundancy both for energy sources and also propulsion. And of course the main energy source for transportation is wind, which the hull and sails should make efficient use of.
What an incredible company that has always built amazing racing carbon fiber racing catamarans. I am thrilled that the HH44 will be more affordable but it’s filled with incredible technology! I got a kick out of Hearing Seth Hynes’ voice at the end of the video! Seth and his “The Sailing Family” channel on RU-vid is absolutely gorgeous!
I can see that the father truly proud of his son. And the son is truly loved and proud of his achievement !!! Well done indeed…Gorgeous boat and hi-tech !!! I hope to own one soon too !!! ❤️❤️❤️
Great video. Really exciting boats. After I got my Prius hybrid I think my second thought was 'this would be great in a boat.' When I got a Tesla with 384 horsepower (two motors) I wondered why electric motors in boats were so under powered. Batteries of course - but diesel-electric solves that problem (as it's done so well with rail locomotives since the late 1940s.)
Thanks guys for sharing, look forward to watching the rest of the series. I'm hopeful the deep dive into energy generation, storage amd usage systems, with commentary on, for example, OceanVolt propulsion backed with a reliable DC genset as redundancy 😁
They used a mechanical parallel hybrid with a clutch between the electric motors and the Diesels. That means either can move the boat, and the Diesel can be used to charge the propulsion battery bank by using the electric motors as generators. That way no genset is needed. (The diesels plus the motors are the generator.)
Seth Hynes! I though you might be behind this video, then I heard the closing voiceover and my suspicion was confirmed. Congrats on the new career with this great company. P.S. I am looking forward to watching the rest of your Sailing Family adventures soon.
I love this yacht. I am stuck now as I really like the Rapido and the Neel trimarans too. I think we will see a lot more of these new multi-wavelength solar materials hit the boating market soon, including photo-voltaic sails. It will also be a game changer for the likes of SunReef and SilentYacht with their fully solar cats.
Solar panels need to be accessible for repair and cannot be built reliably into hulls or sails. Those are gimmicks to gain attention but not a real world solution. We applaud their efforts but we will only install systems that are ready to sail the world today (not tomorrow).
Loved!! Like to know more about the OPEN version, I know is for wheel chairs accessibility but, maybe you can do a version for the public in general... I loved the helm inside and the safety to be all closed in glass windows, looks like the Gun Boat!! But in a "affordable version" Loved Congratulations James well done 👏
The Wynn’s sent me :) Whoa truly a masterpiece and yeah, industry standard for years to come. Competition will need to step up the game. Do they come in yellow?
As many have noted that they follow Jason and Niki Wynn ,I too have been following then since they were Land lubbers 9 or 10 years and I too love the concepts, and technology that you have designed. I am a Composite Experimental Aircraft nut and see many parallels between slang composition and tech with Aircraft design. I wonder if you two could do a deeper dive on the rain capture design and the specifics of the solar ,components and battery designs. Thank you for providing these offerings.cheers
So glad about the direction. Want a performance cat that is eco smart and fuel free ( as much as possible). Want to hear more. Balance and Windelo also on my radar.
Love the concept. Truly disruptive and innovative! Looks like you're hitting the mid 40' sweet spot for price point and to limit hobby horsing on passage. Great video! With weight sensitivity in mind, I liken Cats to aircraft in that there is an expected payload limit before performance is affected in a negative way. For instance, a Gemini Legacy may have a 2500# payload, and one of your 55's may have a 9000# payload or more. Will you be discussing the 44's payload in an upcoming episode? Also can't wait for the discussion on the hydro generation part. Wondering about ability to turn it off in light air to avoid performance penalty.
I believe Silent Yachts have something like 10 kilowatt solar arrays. While this HH44 looks super interesting, it’s solar is not industry leading. I do look forward to newer designs from you guys, hopefully an all electric someday! Keep up the great work.
Now that it’s been done, I’m amazed that the folding transom didn’t exist before. Every blue water sailing couple wants that mid 40 footer in the marina and in the price, but that close to 50 foot on anchor. I could see this expanding to 48 footers then living like 52’s on anchor, etc.
Such a beautiful, well designed cat. The ideal couple Catamaran for exploring the world. And people keep saying China can just produce in shit quality.
This is a good size boat that most couple could could handle and the hybrid engine system is really nice. Smart move making it in Philippines where labor cost is low and the risk of political interruption is lower.
I really like all of it except the visibility from the helms to a degree that makes it a deal breaker. However I'm very pleased to see Hybrid Marine finally having the success powering sail boats they deserve.
From the sitting position at the outboard helm you can still see all your tell tales. Standing improves that line of sight considerably. In our performance video we will show you what this line of sight looks like. It was carefully considered.
@@antonditt1661 Achieving that is difficult on a catamaran and always has compromises. The helm above the coachroof has good visibility but raises the mainsail boom which raises center of effort. It also puts the helmsperson away from the rest of the crew/salon. Far aft helms have good visibility, but poor weather protection. Helms at the mast (front helms) have good visibility but less good spray/wave protection. Helms at the bulkhead at the aft of the salon have good weather protection, but less visibility. What is your preferred solution? (I don't think there is a perfect one.)
@@LoanwordEggcorn I have to admit that for the moment I can only judge from the arm chair, but I didn't really like the bulkhead helm on my cat that I owned two decades ago. Inevitably a head sail would block the vision unless you are motoring or there is so much wind that you are reefed down heavily. As a result I found myself moving around in the cockpit and sitting on the side deck to be able to peep under the genoa. So in my opinion two helms at deck level are clearly a step in the right direction, but I want them to offer at least 90° of view when I bent outside so when I walk over to the other side the 180° ahead are complete. As far as I can see the Seawind 1260 would be an example. My favorite cat so far has it's helms farther out and slightly elevated so you can see over the coach roof but they can also be folded inwards when ever you do not wish to expose yourself to the elements too much. I'm not writing down the brand though because I want them to have a building slot available when I''m ready I'm aware that many sailors are fine with looking thru the deck house windows almost 100% for their ahead vision. For them the HH 44 is probably a perfect boat.
Wow. What a brilliant design. Some fantastic drone work. Those coloured renders of the boat at the start, with the sky the same colour as the boat, needed work. Why not keep the sky blue?
Very Nice looking Yacht, We currently have an FP Helia which is a 44 and a following sea is a concern as we have had water nearly inside a few times so the transom design is a huge winner and the rest of the Industry is likely to follow, Love the idea of Hybryds so many times we only need the engines to get out of marinas so electric hybrds would be the perfect solution Electric for short hops and Diesels when needed. Given once the sails are up one side of the solar is in shade how many strings and controllers are being utalised to maximise power throughput to the lithiums? Given the boat will have a large lithium bank are you considering putting in AC in Owners cabins to run off lithium especially since you have over 3kw of solar and will there be a 12v water maker option? Looking forward to the series as this is the first boat that would make me consider an upgrade.
We currently have 9 zones but are working with a Solar company to make each individual cell independent with a micro controller for each. Solar is an important part of this design and we are seeking ways to improve it as much as possible. In fact, it looks like the HH44 will now come with over 4,000watts of solar standard (instead of the 3,190 reported in this video)! AC will run off the batteries for four days! Thanks for watching.
Hey Seth, the only reason I even watched this video was cause it was pretty certain you'd be involved in the production. Looks like a great design, though I have to ask if the boat will be available with straight electric motors. With the performance expected from an HH design, diesel engines shouldn't be necessary. As Paul says, "It's a no-brainer." Okay, I may be biased, but the video would be a bit better if we had you presenting at least part of the introduction to this design concept. Cheers:)
Ha. Thanks for watching! Yes, I edited this video (can you tell?). I'll let Paul and James take the credit for this one, but you'll see me soon enough. ~Seth
Pure electric drive would be fine for daysailing and some coastal cruising, but batteries can't hold enough energy for world cruising yet. Unfortunately a diesel generator or parallel hybrid is needed for that. That said, on a performance boat, the Diesels would get very little use in general.
@@LoanwordEggcorn I respectfully disagree. Sailing Uma has proven that you can do this with relative ease. They did have to bring along a small generator when they left mainland Norway and headed North to Svalbard, which is way north of the Arctic Circle. You do have to plan your voyages more carefully, though. In most parts of the world people want to sail, this can be done. Also, Jimmy Cornell, on his Elcano Challenge, had to turn his Outremer cat around and go back to La Grande-Motte for a refit. They want to add a bit more PV panels and a towed generator. You can follow Jimmy on this circumnavigation and see for yourself :)
It can be done, but as the producer we feel a safer and more redundant system is the better application for world cruising. Since that is a major objective with this design, we favored the Hybrid approach.
We had a feeling we would get asked that question. It is a nice helm design, but the raised helms on our other boats have their advantages too. The short answer is that for now, the other boats will stay as they are currently designed. But you never know what the future might bring.
I was thinking along the lines of camera use as in the parking cameras on Mercedes’ Benz cars. Put them on the shrouds and you get views of the sterns and the bows?
Very impressive ... love the hybrid solution... is there an option to go with Yanmar for example? I live in Queensland so AC without a generator is a deal-maker! Have to have AC in places like Thailand for sure.... need a barbie too! Can you tell I have a Leopard 45. Luv your design and the thought you have put into it.!
At this point in time we only offer the Beta Marine versions of the system so that we can focus service and support on that model specifically. We also feel it is the better choice with more parts available worldwide and no electronic MDI box systems to fail.
According to what I've learned, feathering props locked in reverse position yield a significantly higher energy input than a folding prop, which runs by design in a semi-folded configuration during hydrogeneration. So i was wondering what made you choose folding props over feathering props?
Good question Slim. As with all aspects of this yacht, there is a reason, and typically it has to do with performance. While fixed props would indeed offer better regenerative power, we prioritize speed/performance over this aspect of the design. With the amount of solar onboard, the hydro-generation of power is more of a bonus than a requirement, so we want to keep the option for low drag and high sailing speeds as the priority.
Im wondering to what extent systems leveraging deep learning AI will revolutionize sailing in the near future. There is already some talk of combining a multitude of instrument systems with augmented reality etc to enable AI based autopiloting. Would love to see some innovation around this ground-breaking tech on a boat like this at some point.
Correction! The folding Transoms was first introduced on a 85 ft catamaran ( Sun Tenareze) built in 2004 by JFA yachts in France. Why it took so long for other to follow is surprising as I think it a wonderful safety idea.
@@HHCatamarans It certainly does! Love to see it on more of your models. Now hoping you would do your first front cross berth. That would tremendously open up your interior lower living volume while maintaining narrow hulls. Your upper living space has no equal - great job.
Hello, very interested in this boat but my husband (the captain) wants to know: is there a way to check the Diesel engine oil, coolant, and belt tension without pulling the beds part?
Love this boat hope that we can buy one in some time. We have some wondering about if you buy one how to regeneration things work. We live in south Africa 🇿🇦. If you maybe can help as. Thank you
Question about the folding sugar scoop. So, lets say you go ashore with the tender, so you fold up the sugar scoop. How do you unfold it when you return?
The system that you describe needs a generator to charge the batteries, which in turn power the electric motors. What is nice about our hybrid system is that it is redundant and fool proof. If the batteries are low you can go back to a traditional diesel propulsion set up. Why have a generator that cannot also spin the prop shaft as a back up?! A Hybrid approach lets you have electric power without any range anxiety.
It can be done, but in a tough spot, we would still rather be in a Hybrid versus solely relying on a system with NO redundancies. If a single part of the R5 system fails (Generator, Charger, Batteries, BMS, etc) then the boat has no propulsion. The Hybrid approach makes too much sense if you are looking for a truly reliable and trustworthy system for use in remote places.
I understand your point but on the other hand a monohull has also just one engine. So for me is the question if it is possible to feed the electric motors directly from the genset in the case a failure of the battery setup. My thinking is a genset would work in its sweet spot by charging batteries or feeding the motors and I could get rid of one motor. I assume there will be no genset on the new hh44. I think this would save some weight but for sure you are the specialists and not I. Thanks for your answers 👍
@@Blackhawk1403 A parallel hybrid can turn the props either by Diesel or electric motor, so it has in essence 4x redundancy, (Any of the 2 Diesels or 2 electric motors can move the boat). A 2 electric motor, 1 generator serial hybrid has a single point of failure if the generator doesn't work, or the battery pack develops a fault. Serial hybrid is possible, but parallel hybrid is inherently more reliable and possibly more efficient due to the more direct mechanical connection between the Diesel and the prop.
What initiatives are being spearheaded to make sure the first boat is going to be as defiency free as possible? To what degree will you stand behind your product?
We try to build the very best catamarans available in the marketplace. We use the very best materials and processes in our build. We take our time to ensure everything is done right, and when we make a mistake during the build we take the time to fix it (despite delaying other boats behind it). Most importantly, we stand behind our products and when a warranty problem occurs we ask that you work with us (not your agent) so we can be involved in the repair process and make things right. Simply put, we want to treat our customers like we would expect to be treated ourselves (we are all cruisers/racers/sailors ourselves)!
We have been asked to build a 100% electric version (with no diesel engines at all), but we have decided against it for now. As a respected brand in the multihull world, we need to ensure the safety of our owners (both new and future second-hand owners) and our boats cannot "fail." For this reason we will stick with proven technologies and designs with inherent redundancies. This type of risk can be taken with a custom build, but for buying a brand it is important they always work.
@@HHCatamarans thanks for the reply. Is your concern that the batteries go flat or that the electrical system fails? Or is is more about in an emergency when a boat might take on water and the electrics can’t operate?
Yes, in a worst case scenario (lee shore at night, strong head winds, low batteries - or a lightening strike - or water intrusion) we want to ensure the system will have full power capabilities. Unlike a Telsa that runs out of juice, the boat can't pull over and park! We think the Hybrid approach, with traditional diesels to rely on when you get in trouble, is the right approach for now.
Quick answer is that pure battery electric would not have enough range for long distance cruising, even for a performance boat. Unfortunately a Diesel is needed, for example if there is a long passage with no wind, like hundreds of miles.
Helm design is a challenge on a catamaran and there is no single correct way to do it. The disadvantage of the Outremer design is that when it's raining you will still need to go outside to hoist your sails, trim your sheets, dock your boat, etc. With our design you can stay protected while doing all sail handling, or swing it outside if the conditions are right. It is always a trade off with yacht design, and for a true bluewater cruiser, we think protection is worth it.
Because on a true performance catamaran where the mast could see loads exceeding 5 tons, you need the mast grounded on the deck. The coachroof is too weak to maintain those loads. It would be a nice feature indeed, but it indicates a weaker design that would not be capable of the speeds this design can handle. Everything in yacht design is a give and take! Thanks for the question!
@@HHCatamarans I'm not saying move the mast to the top of the coach roof, just change the middle structure behind the mast. It is about visibility whilst sailing/sitting inside the cabin, even from the helms. There is a whole structure with two steps on it that is blocking a lot of the view. Photo HH44-E_SL12+.jpg, a whole big black structure blocks the view, surely It doesn't need to be like that. Why can't you make nearly 100% clear forward visibility??? (apart from the mast and the coach roof supports (what could be tiny carbon fiber or stainless beams) .
Please Mister Hakes, not you as well as you are a gentleman. You did not create the canting wheel, as Balance did not either. Loic Goepfert was the first to implement a canting wheel on a catamaran since he created the Abili 54 in 2009 (maybe 2007).
Doesn’t really matter about who “invented” it, I’m sure some Polynesian had some sort of pivoting tiller 1,000 years ago, what is important is that innovative design/safety features are finding their way into more and more boats. Competition makes everyone better and it is the consumer who wins!
It's a good comment. The Alibi was another innovative design (forward dingy storage, remote winch control, etc). It's a shame they're no longer in business as they too were supporters of the carbon cruising boat concept built in Asia.
@@TheDummytoto Mr. Goepfert may have been the first to have a pivoting helm on a catamaran, but he did copy it from others as it was patented over 30 years prior. Nothing wrong with innovating though, and copying is the most sincere form of flattery!
@@kirkb3473 Perfect example of my philosophy. You nailed it. When you make a citation please quote the line and source, question of honesty and respect: “Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness.”- Oscar Wilde. I do not think Oscar Wilde invented the English language as LG did not invent the wheel!. The point is all about giving credit where credit is due. Thank you !
