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Destiny 2 The Witch Queen, Lightfall & The Final Shape - Creator Chat 7
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In this episode we'll be talking about the latest Destiny 2 news and info about The Witch Queen expansion and beyond! Savathun has hive guardians with light, a brand new throne world destination with a new raid set in a pyramid ship, Xivu Aurath’s involvement, the Lightfall and Final Shape expansions, return of the Gjallarhorn exotic, a returning Destiny 1 raid, light subclass updates, the lack of new darkness subclasses or element, Trials of Osiris changes, crossplay’s arrival, bungie banning account recoveries and lots more!
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@Smellyturtle67
@Smellyturtle67 2 года назад
The final bosses: Witch queen: Guardian taniks Light fall: Dorrito taniks The final shape: Taniks with gjallerhorn
@legendofacriuswithornament2019
@legendofacriuswithornament2019 2 года назад
What about tanks using me?
@wikitiki209
@wikitiki209 2 года назад
Final Shape is Randal the Vandal with a gjallarhorn kitted out Tamils mech
@Smellyturtle67
@Smellyturtle67 2 года назад
@@wikitiki209 Randall, Redeemer of taniks
@masteroogway1568
@masteroogway1568 2 года назад
Gonna have greg the dreg, randal and taniks the paniks
@garrettviewegh677
@garrettviewegh677 2 года назад
So, I’m assuming the Gjallerhorn is (like) the BFG of Destiny?
@sirgideonofnir6840
@sirgideonofnir6840 2 года назад
Us: "you lied.. by telling the truth?" Savathun: "surprisingly I do that alot but no one believes me"
@Fitchy-ke3wz
@Fitchy-ke3wz 2 года назад
With good reason Pirates of the Caribbean 2. I understood that reference
@kumikohirasawa8126
@kumikohirasawa8126 2 года назад
“That’s very good may I use that?”
@JackIronwood
@JackIronwood 2 года назад
I'm curious as to how one could mislead by telling the plain truth...The statement seems like an oxymoron.
@VADER06
@VADER06 2 года назад
@@JackIronwood Savathun is a living, breathing, paracausal oxymoron of a being
@TerrariaGolem
@TerrariaGolem 2 года назад
@@JackIronwood it's possible
@Charpelleiose
@Charpelleiose 2 года назад
Hey guys, in regards to Savathun's "Hive" using the light, I would say that the Lucent Brood we're gonna face are not going to be hive at all. The Hive is defined by the Sword Logic and their connection to their worm. If (and that's a big if) we succeed in exorcising Savathun's worm, she won't really be hive anymore. It was mentioned that her Ascendant Plane looked somewhat liked fundament; I think she may be actually fulfilling her promise to raise her promise as written here: "I am Sathona, middle daughter of the dead king. I will take back my home and eat the mother jelly. I will raise my spawn on the corpse of the Helium King. On my right eye I promise this."
@Fitchy-ke3wz
@Fitchy-ke3wz 2 года назад
I think savathun will change her appearance. In the cinematic we got this week when we talked to her, she says 'so I took a form more pleasing to your eyes.' At this point a silhouette of savathun forms out if the moths and she is notably missing the tall crown and shoulder pieces. I think that the worms/a worm god will attack the traveller (as evident in the cinematic where a worm god is wrapped around the traveller) and savathun will defeat them with our help to trick the traveller. The traveller will then bless her with light and that's how she gets the crown.
@lessersphinx3971
@lessersphinx3971 2 года назад
@vhad_ Savathun despises the worm gods since they’ve restricted her people to their ways. Maybe she views the traveler in a similar fashion? A much more powerful entity forcing its will on lesser beings like us. I’m no lore expert, that just what I thought of when I first saw it
@RoachDoggJR.-
@RoachDoggJR.- 2 года назад
Throne worlds arent exclusive to hive. Remember the scorn baron Mindbender he had one, albeit it was a very small one, but he had one.
@Blaze78x
@Blaze78x 2 года назад
@@RoachDoggJR.- Agreed, Mara Sov also has one.
@TerrariaGolem
@TerrariaGolem 2 года назад
The krill became hive.
@JALENtomas
@JALENtomas 2 года назад
Taniks definitely going to be final boss
@Infinitestatic
@Infinitestatic 2 года назад
*S P O I L E R S*
@hazelsmith3114
@hazelsmith3114 2 года назад
Facts
@Makiyura
@Makiyura 2 года назад
Yups, 4th wall breaking for sure!
@liampitcher5586
@liampitcher5586 2 года назад
Taniks the real estate broker
@JALENtomas
@JALENtomas 2 года назад
@@liampitcher5586 taniks the undying
@ImpertinentMind
@ImpertinentMind 2 года назад
As much as I would prefer Wrath of the Machine, I feel like Crota's End and King's Fall would be a much better choice both thematically and as a story tie-in for new players. Imagine them adding Book of Sorrows into the game as a Lore book, where clearing encounters would drop the pages.
@Blu_Moon_Owl
@Blu_Moon_Owl 2 года назад
That’s perfect to reintroduce Book of Sorrows
@JUNIsLuke
@JUNIsLuke 2 года назад
I fucking live that idea!
@Yogarine
@Yogarine 2 года назад
Bungie: Gjallarhorn Titans: Screw Gjallarhorn, give us Twilight Garrison back.
@MosesReyna
@MosesReyna 2 года назад
doubt it, since the warlocks stole it in the form of top tree dawn
@whiteboideku983
@whiteboideku983 2 года назад
Remember they gonna rework the classes so titans might be able to get a solar dash
@Yogarine
@Yogarine 2 года назад
@@whiteboideku983 😮 omg that would be insane.
@erichosteland2196
@erichosteland2196 2 года назад
Loved the reveal stream. never seen so many Guardians getting absolutely wrecked by PVE enemies in a trailer. Bungie is letting us know that shit ain't gonna be easy anymore
@Prestige_00
@Prestige_00 2 года назад
At least not the legendary difficulty campaign. I really hope its as difficult or close to the halo campaigns on legendary
@J-manli
@J-manli 2 года назад
@@Prestige_00 What I gather is, Bungie wants Legendary Lost Sector levels of relative difficulty, but didn't want to heavily rely on Champions to avoid forcing players to play the campaign a certain way. So the Lucent Brood are like a good compromise.
@gulzaarbains7908
@gulzaarbains7908 2 года назад
It’s so nice to listen to you guys talk about what’s poppin in D2 while I work on some projects
@TerrariaGolem
@TerrariaGolem 2 года назад
The Aphelion would be an epic enemy faction. Mentioned in marasena and in the name Aphelion's rest. The cabal lore even mentions them, they're apparently radioactive.
@inktoxicant
@inktoxicant 2 года назад
The new ship, sparrow & ghost bundle in the shop makes me feel like we're going outside our solar system soon, possibly even to the Andromeda galaxy. All the item descriptions are about adapting to new planets & finding places to inhabit outside the reach of our sun.
@shinigamiryan5837
@shinigamiryan5837 2 года назад
The HELM's name and location also lend to this. Plus, consider we now have an Elkisni house and an arms disease with Caiatl. Realistically, leaving Earth won't be out of the question. Dead Orbit & New Monarchy already fled and the remainder of Humanity is gathered in one location. The idea of leaving Sol is more likely than ever. After all, the fact that we see Savathun of all people manage to gain light and our ability to touch in darkness lends more to this. Learning more about the darkness and light will be keyed in going star borne.
@liampitcher5586
@liampitcher5586 2 года назад
I imagine there will be another collapse and we will evacuate the sol system. There could defo be a chance for dead orbit to return if this is the case. The future after the final shape could be rebuilding humanity as a civilisation.
@TonyGunz916
@TonyGunz916 2 года назад
“Light fall” that’s when it happens.
@johnromero6315
@johnromero6315 2 года назад
@@liampitcher5586 This is what I've been expecting ever since they announced all the expansions a year or so ago. Either Lightfall or Final Shape will end with our solar system becoming more or less uninhabitable for most of humanity. That would force us to basically become space nomads, and would give us all kinds of excuses to go to places like Torobatl or maybe even whatever is left of Fundament or the Vex star.
@Centhar
@Centhar 2 года назад
This is a pipe dream tbh, do you think that bungie has the resources to build an entirely new social space, multiple new destinations, new strikes etc? What you're talking about is a new game and you're setting.yourself up for disappointment with thoughts like this. Destiny 2 will do what it has to do to keep making bungie huge money, but if they won't even update how strikes work or make new PvP maps what makes you think they'll build what's essentially an entirely new game a year before it's lifecycle ends?
@dracstonthomaslee9363
@dracstonthomaslee9363 2 года назад
Hey crazy thought, but in regards to the "Savathun meeting criteria thing." Savathun went on to describe how she protected the traveler in the last year or so, and with her wanting us to dispell her worm from her, it would leave her a vessel without power filling her. So with her and thus technically her brood, plus her wormless body, I think that could be what makes her tick off all the checks for granted light powers.
@kylemccormack1785
@kylemccormack1785 2 года назад
That will be her great trick. Don't over look the necromancy she learned from Nokris either. I believe Savathun will essentially trick the Traveller into blessing her corrupted ghosts.
@DragonKnight90001
@DragonKnight90001 2 года назад
@@kylemccormack1785 thats what im thinking even if there brought back with necromancy they still probably follow the same criteria when choosing there guardian well in this case the hive.
@Twilight.Princess
@Twilight.Princess 2 года назад
The name of the first Mission in Season of the Lost is also called “Cocoon” I’m pretty sure. So it makes sense.
@sirgideonofnir6840
@sirgideonofnir6840 2 года назад
Savathun would be a great DM in for dungeons and dragons.
@NimhNom
@NimhNom 2 года назад
TRUE
@nathanflinchum1153
@nathanflinchum1153 2 года назад
The truth is a funny thing
@outbreakperfected5704
@outbreakperfected5704 2 года назад
Suddenly out of nowhere your dark elf rouge pulls out a FLAIMING HANDCANNON
@lenoxavalon3051
@lenoxavalon3051 2 года назад
Savathûn: It's all mimics! Guardians: *Shakes in ptsd* anyway, see you next session?
@multiumbreon7
@multiumbreon7 2 года назад
She would be a *BASTARD* of a GM lmao!
@tiltedbrim04
@tiltedbrim04 2 года назад
Oryx is like Thanos. It doesn’ matter how many times he has been around. Or how he has been defeated or whatever. No one ever ever ever ever ever complains about more Thanos. Which is why no one would ever complain about more Oryx
@garrettviewegh677
@garrettviewegh677 2 года назад
If Oryx was resurrected and persuaded by Savathun to join her, Oryx would essentially wield the power to Take as well as the light, making him a greater threat than before. Also, like Thanos, Oryx impact on the Sol System is still felt by many. By brining the Taken to our system, his legacy, a reminder of him, still lingers.
@bigmol1633
@bigmol1633 2 года назад
@@garrettviewegh677 counterpoint: savathun's power is derived from failing to be understood. Oryx's true nature as first navigator isn't just exploration but understanding. After the death of their father sathona and xi ro both swear vengeance on taox, aurash swears she will understand why the universe did this. Also numerous examples of oryx seeking knowledge and understanding. Since no one 'understands' savathun quite like her brother, we bring back oryx to defeat savathun.
@lucaniouspetrenko9404
@lucaniouspetrenko9404 2 года назад
I believe this will be like the taken king expansion for Destiny 2
@garrettviewegh677
@garrettviewegh677 2 года назад
Perhaps, every great Destiny dlc/expansion seems to involve one of the Hive God trio. I like this morally grey tone that the narrative has been shifting towards. Granted, some characters were ahead of us in this mindset, this truth/perspective of the difference between light and dark not mattering (Eris, Drifter, Elizabeth, Mara Sov.) Elizabeth, Drifter and Eris just revealed the truth that we need to wield both in balance to survive the second collapse. I’m looking forward to seeing Mara, Crow and the “Dark Vanguard” interacting with each other.
@Gyokko007
@Gyokko007 2 года назад
Savathun hinted at using the light during the Expunge mission when,as Osiris,she made the comment about the light being the key to victory.
@fishnutz5196
@fishnutz5196 2 года назад
Also in the Adventure on Io in base D2 where the Taken are trying to simulate the light
@chad_warlock
@chad_warlock 2 года назад
Dude it would be so cool if in the raid you have your path to your normal raid boss but but you have a secret passage with Taniks in his little house
@bigmol1633
@bigmol1633 2 года назад
Taniks has a throne 'house' confirmed.
@TerrariaGolem
@TerrariaGolem 2 года назад
Randal Prime or Randal The Scorned for the loot cave dungeon hopefully. I'd want Randal but updated. Similar to how we had Randal Perfected in WOTM.
@babablacksheep506
@babablacksheep506 2 года назад
Randal the Perfected for the Loot Cave dungeon would be really cool
@xXxCaptRebelxXx
@xXxCaptRebelxXx 2 года назад
Taniks coms out at the end and says "Get out of my swamp!" (In eliskni Shrek voice)
@martinl8706
@martinl8706 2 года назад
There is dialog from Crow with Mara, i think, in Astral Allignment, where Crow says that he stole dead ghost from Spider for Osiris/Savathun. FYI
@zofotoziggy
@zofotoziggy 2 года назад
So hypothesis, Savathun learned Necromancy from Nokris, and used the necromancy on the dead ghosts she was collecting as "Osiris," and she's able to make Hive Guardians by essentially creating "Scorn Ghosts"
@travistirey8579
@travistirey8579 2 года назад
I think she’ll use necromancy to rez the ghosts, and the crown of sorrow to bend them to her will.
@garrettviewegh677
@garrettviewegh677 2 года назад
What if we actually met a Hive Guardian that actually wanted to be our ally? Being resurrected by the light would make them question the sword logic, if they have their memories. Or, lack of memory would make them change sides to fight for humanity, seeing how morally wrong the Hive’s way of life is.
@eCroz_8611
@eCroz_8611 2 года назад
I still remember being a new player in D1Y1, not really knowing what I was doing but loving simple patrols because of the amazing gameplay. Took me what felt like months to save enough Legendary marks to purchase my first legendary scout rifle, Ares Nemesis X4. Wasn't that great but was amazing to finally have a fun with multiple perks
@travistirey8579
@travistirey8579 2 года назад
I remember buying the Devil You Know pistol because it had crowd control (rampage equivalent). That beauty saw me through many pve and trials matches. I think I left it in my vault even when it became obsolete for the memories.
@red_rex_13mtd87
@red_rex_13mtd87 2 года назад
Hive nechromanced Taniks controlled by Savithun with the ability to raise itself with a ghost, one of the raid bosses we will get soon will be able to raise like us. That's how they have to introduce it I bet
@JackIronwood
@JackIronwood 2 года назад
You're not going to bore this listener with metaphysical and astrophysical lore pertaining to a game I've enjoyed since The Taken King. The two of you are absolutely brilliant...keep it coming!
@garrettviewegh677
@garrettviewegh677 2 года назад
With all the fantasy sci-fi elements, the characters, locations, and events, you tend to forgot Destiny 2 takes place centuries after the apocalypse. If you think about it, Guardians are essentially avengers for all those who died from the first collapse. As well as defenders of those who oppose the Darkness.
@billynahar9861
@billynahar9861 2 года назад
FINALLY!!! Man it’s been too long since one of these dropped. Always wish these could be longer, and at least one every month, but appreciate you guys have other things on your schedules.
@jonnyc212121
@jonnyc212121 2 года назад
Taniks, Lucent Enslaved The Taniks commentary around the 25-minute Mark was hilarious
@lindah6954
@lindah6954 2 года назад
If you recall, Asher was trying to harness the light without a ghost. We helped him with one of his experiments that failed. Then we get a Harpy that might be used by Asher. The pyramid ships showed up on IO first. They could have taken Asher's research and got it to work.
@mastergecko1178
@mastergecko1178 2 года назад
Hive ghost floating over DSC: *Hehe BOI*
@nobodie9996
@nobodie9996 2 года назад
Holy shit, that's actually disturbing af and I love it.
@BowPlayKay
@BowPlayKay 2 года назад
Was waiting on you guys to give your take on everything! 👏🏾👏🏾
@roguevirgo902
@roguevirgo902 2 года назад
Byfs explanation for why the story progression in a season works in a brilliant
@SteelLegOfHistory
@SteelLegOfHistory 2 года назад
Glad to see back been awhile since I seen a vid ahh you doing a podcast now cool you have a blessed Soul have a blessed day and blessed life doing what you love and thanks for all you do for us
@blackpanther-nx7ff
@blackpanther-nx7ff 2 года назад
I can't believe it was over 5 years ago I started watching this channel for the sleeper simulant quest and I never knew what you looked like until now and I can't wait to see after about 7 years of playing destiny
@arlaux1099
@arlaux1099 2 года назад
I think the best part about Savathun is that really she isn’t usually all that wrong, she may twist the truth to make herself look better but in her wider universal prescriptions she is usually pretty spot on and doing practically what we are also doing. Both the Guardians and Savathun are looking for ways to harness both the light and the dark with the only reasoning being self-empowerment and survival.
@wezzlemania6729
@wezzlemania6729 2 года назад
Can’t wait to listen to this on my run later! Keep up the awesome work man!
@gulzaarbains7908
@gulzaarbains7908 2 года назад
Can’t wait for Randal the Vandal to be the final boss in the loot cave dungeon
@lunar1413
@lunar1413 2 года назад
That’d be hilarious and amazing
@Stoney_17
@Stoney_17 2 года назад
A lot of people associate light=good, darkness=bad. What this expansion does is really show that light=power, darkness=power. And power can be gained and used by anyone with the will and determination to do so. This really breaks down the barriers between the two and the associated “goodness” of the two. The good and bad comes from the will of the people who use it.
@vincentvega7069
@vincentvega7069 2 года назад
Thank you Papa Lore for blessing us on this beautiful Friday evening 🙏
@danielmunroe1423
@danielmunroe1423 2 года назад
The boys are back. Love this. Please do more.
@CivilArcade
@CivilArcade 2 года назад
I can almost guarantee that the final boss for the Loot Cave dungeon will be Randal the Vandal, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind. I can also imagine he'll just be sitting on a throne of engrams.
@TerrariaGolem
@TerrariaGolem 2 года назад
If it's Randal Perfected... Omg.
@TerrariaGolem
@TerrariaGolem 2 года назад
Please be Randal Prime or Randal The Scorned
@garrettviewegh677
@garrettviewegh677 2 года назад
Randel the Vandel and the loot cave scandal. It may be too much for one Guardian to handle.
@chrisrenemans5026
@chrisrenemans5026 2 года назад
Mission failed, we’ll get em next time
@TerrariaGolem
@TerrariaGolem 2 года назад
Well, WOTM wouldn't have an exotic drop. We already have Outbreak Perfected. Outbreak Prime. For those who don't have the catalyst, perhaps they'll reintroduce it whenever that raid returns.
@mategido
@mategido 2 года назад
Absolutely love these podcasts !!
@Pestillence85
@Pestillence85 2 года назад
Glad to see you making a video. thought you retired from RU-vid.
@GrimoireGauss
@GrimoireGauss 2 года назад
I would love to see either taniks(again!) or Randal the vandal as the final boss of the loot cave dungeon, maybe both of them can have encounters in there for full nostalgia memeage
@bigmol1633
@bigmol1633 2 года назад
Rahool actually ends up being the dungeon boss and then gets replaced with tyra. Calling it.
@cartho1103
@cartho1103 2 года назад
I never thought we would get Hive using the light before the Eliksni
@garrettviewegh677
@garrettviewegh677 2 года назад
The Elksni do use the light just not as directly as Guardians. At least Splicers use the light differently, idk about other Fallen.
@jakeyost1006
@jakeyost1006 2 года назад
excited to see this
@hypeninja4786
@hypeninja4786 2 года назад
For the bridge encounter in Crota, they could only have both totems be active while all three people are on the starting side, and then have only one totem be active on either side for the rest. They would also have to have the active totem on each side alternate for some added spice.
@blazmatic1216
@blazmatic1216 2 года назад
I haven't even played D1 and I'm hyped for gjallerhorn
@Fier07112
@Fier07112 2 года назад
I went to the city and I as I was picking up my vanguard bounties I noticed what seems as, the traveler moving further from the last city 👀
@scoobypup01
@scoobypup01 2 года назад
Crota was originally advertised as a new raid when dark below came out
@tonygervais5994
@tonygervais5994 2 года назад
Love the podcast! Awesome
@xzander94
@xzander94 2 года назад
I hope they do the raid based off of the creatures in the concept art
@minnigingestreams
@minnigingestreams 2 года назад
Were going into a pyramid ship for the raid it says on their website. Maybe the veil...
@xzander94
@xzander94 2 года назад
@@minnigingestreams that is what I meant -_-
@RodrigoAstroturd
@RodrigoAstroturd 2 года назад
I've been wanting dragon's breath to come back even if just for huge area denial
@LowLifeDust
@LowLifeDust 2 года назад
I would love if they made the start of a raid encounter taniks dropping in and a boss bar appears with his name and everyone thinks its actually him but then the real boss just annihilates him like that one strike boss
@GildedWarrior331
@GildedWarrior331 2 года назад
Hey dude nice to see you 😊
@dragonomiconxxx
@dragonomiconxxx 2 года назад
While hive have always been able to use void, solar, and arc damage. I do like the context of hive using them with light as the source. Hive powers are pulled from the worm gods, who pull from the darkness. So historically why they can use the previous elements using dark energies is a bit disconnected. Bit their is a lot to be seen. I just want them to address it a bit more. Like I get those elements are just fundamental properties and not to literal. But still don't get why acolytes can summon fire or wizards shoot electricity, when the source is darkness in lineage. Sorry small things I guess.
@TerrariaGolem
@TerrariaGolem 2 года назад
I think of a light element being what lumina and well of radiance does. Pure white and healing
@Blackhart-7
@Blackhart-7 2 года назад
Damn it's so good to see you guys back
@johnromero6315
@johnromero6315 2 года назад
Sounds like the anniversary event is gonna be pretty packed though, so I'd say its probably worth it. Especially considering that it'll break up this 6 month season we're in.
@MrSpawley
@MrSpawley 2 года назад
looks like they are exploring the meaning of being paracausal. I think Savathun has seen through Mara and through you that being paracausal is the Final Shape as you survive the war between Light and Dark .
@PixelleHearts
@PixelleHearts 2 года назад
I look forward to these more than seeing my college friends every season when we finally get to talk about selecting classes...
@joshuarogers8466
@joshuarogers8466 2 года назад
You guys are a really good combo
@towntalk5150
@towntalk5150 Год назад
I wish you two would get together and drop more of these videos. I listen to them when I play destiny honestly there the only things keeping me going right now. Through the seasonal b.s the lore man I love for the lore. it's hard to find videos as long as this talking about it and other aspects of the game. So many things you to have not talked about I'd love to hear your opinions on
@LiterallySomeDude
@LiterallySomeDude 2 года назад
Guardian Taniks as the next raid boss let gooooooo!!
@shinigamiryan5837
@shinigamiryan5837 2 года назад
Savathun resurrecting Taniks would be unintentionally hilarious to me. Just him dropping in with thundercrash or golden gun.
@ontos8914
@ontos8914 2 года назад
Considering we're finally getting a raid in a Pyramid id say we're definitely fighting the statue within
@witchilich
@witchilich 2 года назад
Why won't the raid boss be Savathun? Savathun has to die once to be freed of her worm and gain the powers of light. All the guardians(including Uldren Sov) died before getting the power of light.
@bigmol1633
@bigmol1633 2 года назад
Just chucking thins out there. We never see savathun herself wield the light, only her lucent brood.
@witchilich
@witchilich 2 года назад
@@bigmol1633 Probably she will after we kill her in the raid
@lunar1413
@lunar1413 2 года назад
We’re most likely killing Xivu in the raid. Savathun probably dies during the campaign, most likely early on in the campaign.
@humpfrey3277
@humpfrey3277 2 года назад
i like the contrast between witch queen and the taken king. the taken king introduced oryx and the taken which were the closest thing to the darkness itself we had seen up until that point. now we have savathun with the light
@terrybowman5870
@terrybowman5870 2 года назад
The best lie the devil ever told, ws that he didn't exist. Perhaps Savathun's best lie, is that she can't be believed, even if she is always telling the truth.
@BatteredWalrus
@BatteredWalrus 2 года назад
Thinking about the Presage mission lately, since we know Osiris was really Savathun; who the hell was she talking about in her past experiences, I can only assume the Osmium King
@tromar5758
@tromar5758 2 года назад
Imagine being a hunter and being able to go invisible from dodge and smoke. That be sick
@garrettviewegh677
@garrettviewegh677 2 года назад
That may be a feature with void 3.0.
@markusg3874
@markusg3874 2 года назад
I kinda want us to be able to make presets in the subclasses at the very least, i don't wat to have to memorize all the fragments and aspects. Kinda have the clusters from the current light subclasses, but you make your own clusters.
@Kermie_Frogman
@Kermie_Frogman 2 года назад
Something I think a lot of folks miss out on is a big quote from Mithraks: "The light is in all things, we splicers just manipulate the residual light." Could be that Saavathun has found a non-Traveler source of light, or what we know about how we "receive" the light is wrong. Maybe ghosts just unlock light and it doesn't come from The Traveler at all.
@moneyky2327
@moneyky2327 2 года назад
I definitely agree 💯
@jakemassa2359
@jakemassa2359 2 года назад
More episodes please.
@ThePwrOfGreySkL
@ThePwrOfGreySkL 2 года назад
Savathun and the exo stranger are the only characters to call our ghost “little light” if I’m not mistaken. That can’t be a coincidence. I think they are working together to shift the travelers favor from our guardians to the hive under savathun. The exo stranger tempted us to use the darkness which opened the door for savathun.
@minnigingestreams
@minnigingestreams 2 года назад
And they both say the line between light and dark is so very thin. Then again uldren says that too.
@dionjohn92
@dionjohn92 2 года назад
Wowza!
@luisfiredragon
@luisfiredragon 2 года назад
I just realised if u ever watched Gurren Lagan. It talks about the concept of Spiral and Anti-Spiral Life. The concept of Light and the Darkness in Destiny reminds me of the same concept. 😁
@mediocregamer2484
@mediocregamer2484 2 года назад
I loved seeing the "3 Guardians popping their super in the trailer" trope but it's the Hive
@adamweaver5097
@adamweaver5097 2 года назад
Aren't the ghost's born of the flowers in the black garden? and weren't there those glowing thrall with flowers growing out of them? Seems like Savathun was somehow able to replicate that process maybe to create the hive ghosts by using the thralls as the medium by which the flowers grew.
@halfbloodpheonixfire4553
@halfbloodpheonixfire4553 2 года назад
I think it’s more about the ghosts than the traveler. For example, the traveler made the ghosts, and when their ghosts died, the guardian loses the ability to wield the light right? Because even the Eliksni never wielded the light. So it would make sense that the traveler is the source of the light, and the ghosts are the conduits that can bestow it on whichever being it chooses. So I think the reason that the hive can use the light is because Savathun has rebuilt the ghosts from dead ghosts of lost guardians. Also remember when Sagira took over our ghost’s consciousness? Wouldn’t it be possible for Savathun to hijack other ghosts that can bestow the light as well? She’s had Sagira’s shell ever since she died. It’s not unreasonable to think that she’s built her own ghosts based on Sagira (the ghost of the most powerful warlock ever)
@Barewell
@Barewell 2 года назад
Also yeah on crossplay Im able to play with xbox friends again who I kinda left behind to play on PC and was the one reason i felt bad about goin to PC but now it doesnt matter I can play with anyone. One of the biggest changes for the better to happen in destiny if not the absolute biggest thing to happen to destiny
@jacobboucher777
@jacobboucher777 2 года назад
Savathun is our greatest ally... always has been and always will be. And yet, we'll keep on bringing ourselves to our doom.
@GiancarloPaniccia
@GiancarloPaniccia 2 года назад
We just need Savathun talking to Taniks in a single lore entry and just let that hang in everyone's heads forever like all of Savathun's other moves and lies. It would be amazing.
@eCroz_8611
@eCroz_8611 2 года назад
I'm curious to see if Savathuun is tricking us & Xivu isn't really hunting her. Or, she is & although we'll initially fight the Lucent Hive, do we later learn there's a much bigger threat on the horizon & we must join forces with the Lucent Hive to fight it back.
@nightshadexl242
@nightshadexl242 2 года назад
With beady hive eyes Savathun read the fine print on dead ghost shells "if found please return or reverse engineer if broken" - lost lore entry
@monkewithamachine-gun340
@monkewithamachine-gun340 2 года назад
Yes finally I've been waiting lol
@Deprece
@Deprece 2 года назад
Let’s go!!
@AREB1DER
@AREB1DER 2 года назад
hunter while using arc strider super also had a second melee in the air a helicopter move in the beta ....... always have been upset about it .....I still forget that its not there and try to do it and always makes me sad....... :(
@Ch1pD0ug1as
@Ch1pD0ug1as 2 года назад
Yesss
@zephron28
@zephron28 2 года назад
The whole moth motif is totally a Hive thing, I believe there is a thing talking about Aouryx taking the king moth... maybe... and Savathun, can't remember her old name, taking the mother moth maybe.
@iamrazor9831
@iamrazor9831 2 года назад
So here's one thing I wanted to ask, the hive got darkness powers, not from the pyramid ships but from the worms, why are we getting our power from the traveler, is there some light entity about the traveler? Maybe more travelers? Are the pyramids a different kind of darkness or what I need answers
@daveyjoneslocker4703
@daveyjoneslocker4703 2 года назад
Really want to see the Destiny universe expand. Separate games in new genres, comics, books, shows etc
@nicolasjaynes2231
@nicolasjaynes2231 2 года назад
wait if savathun's not the raid boss and the raid is in the pyramid could we see some darkness enemy's?
@Barewell
@Barewell 2 года назад
I think the theme throughout the year will likely change a bit so I think its very possible that halfway through the year Wrath of the Machine could fit the theme of that given season. And at the time of my comment since im watching this late is confirmed to be either Kings Fall or Wrath so I think its possible its not Kings Fall thought id say most likely it is. and i personally would prefer that
@chaosismyjam8187
@chaosismyjam8187 2 года назад
The Final Shape - A race or being so powerful and unchallenged in the entire cosmos that it is able to shape the universe to it's will and desire and remain unchanged or unchallenged by anyone else or any other "pattern" for the rest of time, henceforth "The Final Shape"
@thaddeusmarner6513
@thaddeusmarner6513 2 года назад
But I mean…Savathûn did help us when you get down to it; she did save Osiris from Xivu Arath, she did help Crow feel welcomed into the city, etc etc
@Zeus-yp3mp
@Zeus-yp3mp 2 года назад
Please do these more often
@toastedtrap4443
@toastedtrap4443 2 года назад
So having played the new 6 player activity in lost, there is a ending where crow talks to ikora about osiris having him get dead ghosts from spider's personal stash.
@MrSpawley
@MrSpawley 2 года назад
That is Savathun. Ever since he lost sagira Savathun has been possesing Osiris . She also has the light surpressor that the Cabal assasin tried to use on Zavala. As well as the Crown of Sorrows from Presage exotic mission.
@toastedtrap4443
@toastedtrap4443 2 года назад
@@MrSpawley I know. I've seen the first week cutscene, and know the lore about it, and all the hints he was sava. .-. I was explaining that in the astral activity there is a voice line talking about osiris asking crow to go through spider's stash of dead ghosts, hence as to why there are hive ghosts.
@MrSpawley
@MrSpawley 2 года назад
just hope we get some decent puzzles and lore the grind of motes, data , chosen battles was getting tedious.
@random75491
@random75491 2 года назад
I really hope they're planning on letting us handle Xivu on the next big expansion after Witch Queen. Xivu needs to be her own thing. Right?
@lunar1413
@lunar1413 2 года назад
Nope. She’s just gonna be filler content
@PLBiohazard
@PLBiohazard 2 года назад
Re-thinking of Savathûn, her cunning, her deception and lies, her mastery of Hive sorcery, her odd fondness for some sort of bond and affection she never truly experienced, her willingness to "ally" with anyone - including us - in order to ensure her own survival in the long term... Is Savathûn to the Destiny universe what Loki is to the MCU ? 🤔
@garrettviewegh677
@garrettviewegh677 2 года назад
A misunderstood, tragic villain that becomes an anti hero through a selfless sacrifice realizing who they really are, and eventually being “revived” or saved from their fate to come back as an anti hero? Maybe. It’s harder to tell weather Savathun is truly on our side. You can’t really tell when/if she’s being sincere. Maybe she’ll become an anti hero in year 6? Time will tell (if we don’t kill her permanently).
@chloec4009
@chloec4009 2 года назад
Thinking wayyy into the future maybe in the Final Shape or even beyond, what if we start encountering races that were given Darkness but then abandoned them at the end of the Red War when it felt the Travelers Light. So it would basically be a version of the Eliksni but for the Pyramids instead of the Traveler, chasing them across the universe and it’s just taken them much longer to get here
@johnromero6315
@johnromero6315 2 года назад
That seems unlikely since the pyramids were just sitting on the edge of our system (and in our moon) ever since the collapse.
@misaelgtorres
@misaelgtorres 2 года назад
Argent Ordinance can make it Ghorn really good.
@rasmusdegn9690
@rasmusdegn9690 2 года назад
Taniks will be the final boss of The Final Shape campaign, the raid boss of The Final Shape will be Randal the Vandal.
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