Destiny 2 Lore - What about the "Other" Dragon Egg? You know... Mara's Taken one... 

If taken corruption can be corrected maybe she’s planning on curing it… if not prolly gonna make it into a exotic weapon

Byf...the wording used in game...is Heirloom. As in Savathun inherited the egg. She then passed it to us. The only event from which she might have been able to inherit the egg, aside from a potential deal with riven, is her secret purpose among the harmony.

Keep in mind that riven is always referred to as the last KNOWN ahamkara. There very well could be more out there, and we just haven’t come across any yet

We are going to make maras egg into a nice scrambled egg breakfast with the drifter

There's one more detail about that theory of Savathun cleansing the egg with the Light, something unrelated to the Ahamkara: Sloane. Recently reintroduced, Sloane is currently half-taken, and she confirmed her Light keeps the corruption at bay. Just with that, the idea of using the Light to cleanse the Taken corruption sounds a lot more possible.

I also think its worth pointing out that the perk name for the "wish" Arcana card (the thing that shows up on your HUD when activated) is called "Wish and Whim", which looking back was foreshadowing a baby Ahamkara

If wish magic can allow riven to keep her own will after oryx’s demise, give eris functioning eyes from a different species, hold the hive to a stalemate till trickery was used, and create a time loop, I would say the proper wish (which is something Savuthun is smart enough to make) could fix the taken corruption. I also saw a great theory in these comments from @asimovstarling8806 that she got the egg from the harmony. The clue be the use of the word “heirloom” meaning the eggs age could be very old.

So back when the three hive gods separated so very long ago, they had just fought a group of creatures that were using wish dragons. Savathun went and did something secretly during that time as she helped to eliminate the dragons and the other two gods took the gift mast. She could've got an egg back then and hid the egg in the Imbaru Engine all that time ago. It would be looked at as an heirloom if it was hard won and never hatched because we don't know how the eggs work, or how they would work in the Imbaru Engine. Maybe I'm wrong about the dragons, but I'm pretty sure i remember that happened during the gift mast stuff.

Since Savathûn specifically referred to the egg as an "Heirloom", that would almost guarantee that she was _given_ the egg by another caretaker, perhaps even before she met Riven. The choice of wording there is important, because Savvy wouldn't use a term without purpose - she could have referred to the egg as any number of things, but she specifically chose Heirloom when sharing it with us. So it may be likely that Riven was not the first Ahamkara Savathûn had dealings with, directly or otherwise - and she would _definitely_ see the potential power a viable egg could give her. I think she's had the egg for a very, very long time.

I'm glad this was brought up... I firmly believe the corrupted egg is either hatched or made uncorrupted. The possibilities of Sloan being partially taken, to the point that she can "eavesdrop / hear" a sort of corrupted communication is an interesting plot possibility. We've more to see/hear from Sloan and Asha.

the taken egg was one of the first things that came to my mind. I would love to see both hatch and chaos ensue afterwards

The term whim might not have been for the name of the species' young... but rather, Ikora speaking of the innocent whim of a newly hatched dragon. I.e. even in its innocence, could cause misunderstanding of wishes, etc.

That clip from Dynasty reminded me how absolutely fantastic Dynasty is. The production value is incredible!

22:27 the disappointment in that brief moment of looking up at the shield in the gameplay footage is just 👌👌👌

On the subject of eggs, we can look back to a lore card from 2015. One of the best lore cards in all of destiny, outlining hints of lightfall and final shape. Ghost Fragment: Mysteries 2 Ingress via dreams alone Things I saw inside A wild river and a broken dam (or maybe it's just the sea crashing through a narrow gap I can't be sure). Waves slam through the gap and where they hit the stone they throw up pillars of spray that pierce the mist and crash down in thunder. There's a giant in the cataract, trying to wade against the current, and I can tell it wants to reach the lever and pull the lever which will seal off the flow or maybe give it the sword, but the torrent throws it back so it just keeps its head down and tries to push on. I can't see the face but it breathes out white smoke. I feel for it hard. (^ the inside of the traveler with the witness inside) A world painted around the interior like a stranger Earth everted and glued inside itself but I don't believe this one it's too much like a metaphor. (description of the traveler from the inside... smells faintly of vanilla ;) ) A switchboard or a train station, empty, dead (waiting). The tunnels branch off into infinity. I stare down one for a long time and see a pale worm move in hungry coils around itself. I think this one is the most likely although I might have brought the worm. (Ahsa? Another worm perhaps?) An egg but I'm not sure if the broth inside is warm still, or if it's gone to rot, or if the warmth comes from the struggles of the tiny winged zygote or the bleed from the wound or the thoughts of something thinking very hard. (probably metaphor for the traveler but this may also be the egg we have in our possession..?) A star I think. We count on stars as steady friends because they always rise and always shine but a star's a delicate truce: an explosion caught by its own mass so that it can't erupt and can't collapse. Thus I imagine the state of the machine might be. But one force or another has gone awry and now it rests here, snuffed and broken, waiting for the two rival forms of ruin to be set in balance again.

I’m literally going to be so stoked if we gonna witness a battle of wish dragons this next season, savathuns uncorrupted ahamkara and maras corrupted taken ahamkara, that would be so cool

22:27 Bfy whiffs a shield throw and looks at it sail into the distance was really funny to me.

Called the imbaru engine. And at its core was an uncorrupted egg. Our actions in the engine when we failed made Savathun stronger. So what was the outcome of succeeding each chamber? Just open a door. :-)

Man that riven clip from dynasty gives me chills everytime

Two Ahamkara on the final battlefield with The Witness would be both amazing to see and frightening bc the possibilities with the number of Guardians and enemies in the same vicinity. The range of wishes for the dragons to feast on would be massive. Great video, I’m currently binge watching your content to catch up on the lore and story

This may be completely impossible and/or outlandish BUT what if the Ahamkara that hatches from the Taken Egg wants to fight the one that hatches from the egg we have?

I think Byf overlooked one point that needs to be mentioned. In the season of the Deep I belive it was, Xivu revealed why she was furious with us guardians. When we took Oryx off of the Hive census we as guardians had the right to claim his throne as the Taken King and didn't. With that being the case, is it not possible that a Taken Ahamkhara could be obedient to us if we chose to claim that title and mantle? That could in theory create a struggle of dominance over it between the Witness and ourselves.

23:53 “doodoo battle” is my new hope for Destiny

Maybe it fits in the sense of balance between the light and dark, maybe we need two wish dragons one born in light, and one born in darkness. Mara having the power of those two dragons and herself in order to open up a safe passage into the Traveler. Maybe this repeats the type of events that created the awoken, this is our access point, our balance in order to gain access. Oh, what if Cayde is the result of a wish by Ikora! Great video Byf Love it as always!

I just want to see this new baby dragon be an ally and maybe a friend. If we can raise it without abusing it or it's power

The moment I saw the uncorrupted egg, I wondered what Mara had planned for her Taken one. She’s often two steps ahead, so she’d know something we don’t. I like to think she was planning on using its status as Taken to control it. Somehow bypassing the Witness and instead control the Taken Ahamkara herself. It’d be much easier to control its wish magic than an uncorrupted Ahamkara’s.

This was literally my second question. First how did savathun get maras egg. Then i remembered hers was taken

I wonder if there could be a chance that the Ahamkara in the egg, and here me out, is Riven. After all, Ahamkara are paracausal in nature, so what if through some wish magic, and the line about her prison loosening. It loosened, because she knew if she died, she could be reborn, in the possession of Savathun, who was willing to take up the strings. It's totally a crack shot of a theory, but it definitely is one that I have.

I want Shaxx to have a prominent role in next season's story, we know so much about him yet he rarely ever features in story content but given next season's theme, I think it would be awesome to see him pop up a few times with some of his own insight on the Ahamkara.

Wei Ning before dying in the Great Disaster killed half a dozen Ahamkara with Eris Morn. I’m so glad someone else brought up that Praedeth wished to fight forever and ended up lost in the Vault of Glass.

it's possible that the egg is in stasis, or made unhatchable by being taken. mara's long term goal may have been to hatch the ahamkara and have it take riven's place. maybe it just becomes a backup once we share our discovery with the awoken

I'm watching this video at the start of Week 2 of Season of the Wish. And just from the Dungeon and the first week's story, revision to a lot of this information is something I'm excited to hear.

I say we just scramble the sucker and make his bones into armor. That worked so far!

Logically, I'd assume Mara kept the egg as a means of restoring the Dreaming City.

Byf, i thought there WAS a way to undo being taken. Uldren Sov was taken in Forsaken, and was untaken when he combined the power of the light with his own taken essence to restore Riven. the Spire was made expressly for experiments with the light, so it’s not farfetched that the crux of her experiments was the Ahmkara egg being untaken.

I really love your videos. I just started D2 this year and there is much stuff I never saw or will never see because it's no longer playable so I love to go through your Videos and watch everything where I didn't know anything about. Many still to watch xD

(Sorry for length. I'm just thorough with my thoughts is all.) My guess is that when they met, Riven revealed to Savathun how to gain extra power through deception wishes, and the Imbaru Engine is the result of her adapting it to suit her needs impassively. That knowledge and the egg are Riven's means to keep Savathun in play gaining power to fight, and a failsafe in case a/the Taken egg breaks things up. A few more theories: Xür's appearance and personality is based on a person of The Ammonite race, one of the races The Nine influenced and assisted during their war with the Hive (they didn't originate in Sol system.) The Nine are..gatekeepers of a sort, but for their own interests. The Final Shape will end with the Witness unknowingly tricked into or knowingly creating the key to opening the prison doors of The Deep (maybe with the Taken Wish Dragon's wish power), where the powerful beings of the ascendant plane have been trapped. The new baddies will be the Ascendants. Also, the Cayde we see in the TFS teaser is who Elsie Bray is talking to when we encounter her as The Stranger. In her timeline, our Guardian died and Cayde lived. Afterwards, they did something similar to what we'll be doing over the next few seasons/TFS, and Cayde went in alone and lost contact as Sol was being destroyed. That's why Elsie ends up staying more on our timeline.. nothing left to go back to now with Cayde gone. We show up and he's there. Nobody else in the timelines made it through the portal that leads to where all timelines split, the central moment of time that connects all of them. Again. Sorry for the length. Have a good one.

I love the idea you suggested about two clashing Ahamkara, that creates such a cool setup for a story and it's a great way to incorporate the abilities of both dragons clashing against each other for the seasonal activity. We could see two teams of champions so to speak, The Taken for the Corrupted Ahamkara (if it is even possible) and the Guardians for the Uncorrupted Ahamkara. Another nice tidbit would be if both eggs hatch at the same time Speaking of, your also right about how were not sure if the taken egg is even alive and us destroying the others was just us being careful about containing Riven/her brood. There's a lot of unknowns here were facing and maybe through this unhatched Ahamkara we might find some answers, hopefully at best

This was a big thing I thought of last week. Thankyou for bringing it up.

Since the Season of the Witch is about Savathuns experiments with the light its safe to assume that this was the culmination of all that effort. Fixing the Taken Wishdragon egg and preparing the guardian for the final shape through the imbaru engine.

We actually saw this egg earlier, when we first met Mara again in D2 by traveling trough the portals before her return to the system, it was there but most people didn't notice it i guess in part because it wasn't of the same textures as the taken eggs

Drifter is using it to make a comically large omelette

I love your content. I really appreciate all the work you put into these videos. I can only imagine. So, thank you. Keep it up man

I recall Mara seemingly bargaining with Savathun and it creating mistrust between us. Perhaps part of the bargain was the exchange of the taken egg in exchange for something? Maybe Mara bargained for “control” of the cleansed and hatched Ahamkara or maybe even just the opportunity to wish away the taken curse cycle from the dreaming city…maybe the thought of an uncorrupted wish dragon being able to cleans the dream city was enough for her to bargain with savathun and it was all a part of her plans to get us to defeat her sister and revive her back into a position of prominence as the lone hive god empowered with the light…

It could be the wish dragons are "native" to the inside of the travelers biome, which would explain why they follow the traveler, because the traveler or gardner is home...or something of this nature. This could also explain some way to get through the portal. Back home so to speak for the upcoming season of the wish. Not through a wish but rather their paracausal power maybe.

Maybe you can "take" using the light. So while not undoing the process Oryx did, but a change of ownership.

Thanks for the great hard work...that was fascinating.

so a few thigs i've noticed in fantasy lore when it comes to dragons, clutch is often used to refer to siblings for dragons, so this could in theory be one of Riven's siblings, the other piece that could be the clue staring us in the face is the Harmony. They had wish dragons on their planet and we know Savathun's covens were hidden among them for centuries. So it is possible that Savathun and her covens stole a few eggs for study, since her worms domain was trickery and deception before it was removed, what better omelet then a creature who's whole purpose is trickery and deception

We get 2 wishes. And it’s going to be a community event which wish we choose. I’m dreaming but it’s now a probability

Next season would be an awesome time to introduce a new suite of Ahamkara armor for all 3 classes.

at 15:42 you said that it would be too delicate for the hive but in a prior video you did a reading where it describes what the role of each of the hive gods was prior to them breaking up at Savathun's prompting. in that vid the text you read said something along the lines of Oryx leading and Savathun's spies (there was likely a thing abt Xivu being a space Nazi but I can'tremember). I could just be wrong about my memory here but using that exerpt it doesn't sound that insane to assume that the hive could have done just that. I mean Savathun snuck into the Guardian ranks as osiris, and while she didn't "steal" the light she did learn a great deal. Also having a brain wave as I'm writing this but as we see in the campaign Savathun can make clones of herself who I assume can interact with the material world so maybe she did something like that as she was sneaking out? Then again I joined destiny in the Beggining of the Witch Queen and have no where near the amount of experience you have with the game let alone the lore of it.

What if the egg that was in Savathûn's possession is not of Riven's clutch but of one the ahamkara that lived among the Harmony. Savathûn might have toke the egg during the Hive's assault on the Gift Mast before Oryx and Xivu Arath could wipe them all out and Savathûn has had this egg all that time since.

2 ahamkara duking it out would be an epic cutscene

Question, can wish dragons make wishes/deals etc. with each other? Sure they could do the whole pacific rim fight, but that to me seems obvious but what if with their own agendas, they’re trying to fight out of both our and the Witnesses’s control and turn this into some sort of love or friends at birth, or sibling story between the uncoruppted (light) and dark to show how you need both to pass through the portal. Edit: Just thought of this but we havent interacted with crow in a while, so what if 2 eggs translate to the 2 siblings, crow (uldron) and mara, a “child of the light” with crow reacting with an uncorrupted egg and the ever selfish Mara with the taken egg, combined that’s a pretty good yin-yang dynamic

i mean Riven somehow managed to make many taken ahamkara eggs which we destroyed even though she can't realistically have a partner because she's the last ahamkara to ever live as we thought. so maybe the reproduction of ahamkara doesn't even need 2-4 dragons.

You mentioned the name of a baby Ahamkara is called a Whim. Which is interesting considering what the definition of what the word "Whim" means: 'a sudden desire or change of mind, especially one that is unusual or unexplained.'. Perhaps this could infer on the decision making and path a newborn Ahamkara will make?

Probably not gonna go this way but here is how I would love for this tale of two dragons to play out: our egg hatches and we have to raise, bond with, control and synchronize with our Ahamkara as our final ally to enter the Traveller and face The Witness. Like second or third week, we learn Mara's egg hatched but the Taken dragon could not be contained and fled, potentially seeking The Witness. That gives us a ticking clock to ready our dragon. "End" of season, we launch an assault on the portal, only to meet the now grown taken dragon who smacks us and our dragon away, it's wish magic and Witness power overtaking us without the aid of the dormant Traveller, we are then insentivised with a community challenge to power up even more in the build up to TFS and the true season end is an epic battle where our dragon seemingly beats the Taken dragon, but both fall into the portal, our ally seemingly gone like Rasputin was in Seraph, but giving us our opening to dive in and start The Final Shape. But wait, there's more!! During the TFS campaign, we get to a boss fight with the still alive Taken dragon using Riven and Illusion dragon mechanics. At about half way, we are forced to wipe before our dragon, weathered but alive, charges in to save us and we have the two titans clash in the skybox as a visual spectacle of Light vs Darkness as we make our way to our final showdown. Wishful thinking, most likely. Badass as hell to imagine, definitely

Fun fact: The word “Ahamkara” is a Sanskrit word meaning “A sense of being an individual separate from everything else” and it refers to the human ego. Fun little tidbit I found while surfing the web, though it should be shared

In the last Ahamkara video you read that Riven basically relished it's deal with Queen Mara Sov because it loved the thought of finding a way to twist the queen's wishes, so i dont think Riven being imprisoned and yet not imprisoned would matter much to the young Ahamkara even if they do inherit the memories of their ancestors. What i keep thinking though is what if all this Ahamkara business is all part of Mara's desire to have a unique power all to herself and she ends up with both eggs (if there are two) thus having a Taken and normal Ahamkara at her side, even without the wishing wall the lore from the previous video stated basically the entirety of the Dreaming City was designed to mitigate the negative effects of Ahamkara granted wishes so she'd have ways of keeping them in line (also as you mentioned this video we Guardians are pretty effective dragon slayers). Since the Witness isnt technically in the universe anymore perhaps Mara could exert her will enough to effectively control the Taken Ahamkara if it hatches from it's egg, like when a radio signal suddenly cuts out and a different station comes in because you've gone too far from the station that was originally being listened to.

I’m thinking two possibilities: 1) it’s an egg that was bargained for around the time of the Great Hunt, hidden in her Throne World as a means to deal with the Witness 2) Savathun knows more Ahamkara exist in forms and in places both unknown and or inaccessible to the usual suspects of Destiny’s universe. They do sit atop the 4th Wall after all.

I could very easily see Savathun stealing the egg in her escape of Mara's grasp and the Dreaming City. She was able to corrupt and control people, the Hive God of Cunning and Trickery finding a host to sneak up and grab it, and then calling a Hive ship to rescue her isn't that far off.

My take is that with some tech witch magic and hive magic we will, fuse both eggs to create a hatchling that is more tame, of weaker will if you may. Basically make it less unpredictable thanks to it's partial taken will, far far reach but one can dream.

What If savathuns Throne world being reconfigured to the light cleansed the egg?

Random thought on one of your points in this vid. Ahamkara may be shape-shifting dragons, but several real examples of faculative parthenogenesis spring to mind. Most excitingly in scientific terms; parthenogenesis was confirmed in two archosaur lineages: crocodilians & birds (Suggesting the possibility in non-avian dinosaurs). Edit. Sorry if this reads like ai, I'm just Autistic and bad at conveying stuff..

I like the idea that the egg was stolen, and Savathicc used us to reverse the taken affliction through the Imbaru engine. We "cleansed" the egg through the combined actions of death and life.

Remember when we fought the memory of Riven in the Witchqueen campaign? Wonder if that’s going to come back again in Lightfall…

I always interpreted Riven laughing with Oryx as Riven starting to match Oryxs will as she is taken. This is why she doesn't laugh when she does the deal with Savathun because she is freely independent.

I feel like I remember reading a long time ago that wish dragons have to be wished out of the egg. It's like a long forgotten memory that I can't place directly. I think it has something to do with their First Wish defining their natures or something like that.

We're talking about eggs! You know, scrambled, sunny side, deviled, benedict? Eggs!

Thought of something recently about the relationship between the Leviathans, Worm Gods, and Ahamkara. If the Worm Gods are Leviathans corrupted by darkness then could the Ahamkara be Worm Gods "uncorrupted" by the light? It would make some deal of sense given that Ahamkara only pops up when the Traveler blesses or terraforms a planet, and it would make the lore entry where Xivu talks about how she is angry that her gods are serving another species make a lot of sense. If the Ahamkara are Worm Gods "uncorrupted" then they would probably wanna fight against the hive since the hive would probably want them dead. It would also explain their appearance and how they have the same "mandible" things that Worm Gods do while still having what appears to be vestigial filter-feeding teeth (found on the inner portion of Riven's "mandibles"). Obviously, they can change their form but I don't see why Riven wouldn't be in her normal form since there is no reason to shapeshift while she was locked away. This theory has a lot of holes like why aren't the uncorrupted worm gods named in the books of sorrow? Although I think that one is actually pretty obvious, they wouldn't be since they were traitors, and having that in the books of sorrow could've sown dissent within the hive. But yeah, just a fun theory I thought of.

I feel like both eggs are going to hatch, savathun’s dragon helping willingly, and maras dragon being forced to serve Mara by the use of her taken status

When we first met Savathun in season of the Lost, Mara told us that she and Savathun "have come to an agreement", Mara's part in that agreement was the topic of the season, but we never got to know Savathun's part of the agreement, perhaps it was something to do with the ahamkara egg, and so when Savathun escaped at the end of the season she took the egg with her.

While I'd love something as big as a fight between two ahamkara, and a mini-war to enter the traveler, I have to go off of Bungie's track record and say that it isn't likely. I believe it will likely end up with one ahamkara hatching and the taken one being forgotten, or it will be the taken ahamkara egg turned back into a normal one. Bungie has done plenty of retcons before, so it wouldn't surprise me.

Yin Yang Wish dragon eggs are definitely going to be.... very interesting

I really want to know how things are un-taken. We cured the techeuns in the Last Wish raid. The techeuns themselves also cured Riven’s heart for ‘the sake of plans to come’.

Take a shot every time byf says egg

Let's not forget that Shaxx is standing beneath an Ahamkara skeleton in the Tower... And Savathûn has used those bones to sneak into the tower and manipulate him in the past (Season of the lost lore i think)

I feel like the Ahamkara weren't a product of The Traveler coming to Sol, I feel like they are most likely attracted to paracausality and probably followed it here, similar to The Hive and The Fallen

Bungie did actually confirm that the egg is Riven's in their press article the other day

@Mynameisbyf, what if, given the similarities between wish dragons and the worm gods; that a taken egg may be how the worm gods were originally created, transformed via the corruption of darkness.

I think the hint of whether or not there are 2 eggs is in the use of the word "uncorrupted". If Corrupted Eggs are in reference to Riven's Taken Eggs, then an Uncorrupted Egg would be in reference to an Egg whose Taken Corruption was undone, un-taken. Otherwise Eris would say "non-corrupted" or "unaccounted" egg. Or Bungie just screwed up their wording

Babe, wake up, Byf is dropping more Ahamkara info.

You call young ahamkara whims, I call them exotic engrams

3:20 - 3:40 Idea. Nokris was cast out of Savathûn’s court as suddenly as he had been ripped into her presence. He drifted in the Ascendant Plane, no longer directionless. Behind him, the court faded, and its shimmering illusion fell like curtains upon a stage. The dark core of the singularity wavered; sunken within its gravitational well was a lone Thrall and no other. Its death spread over eons of deterioration, mouth agape to utter words at the Taken Queen’s whim as patsy, and nothing more. Her presence had been but a mirage, soaked and sold by the lie of her mouthpiece puppet to whom Nokris unknowingly spoke. In truth, only a Thrall stood within orbit of the singularity, for the Queen would not be so foolish to reveal herself. Savathûn looked upon her charlatan court from distant transcendent hollows. Her nascent alliance had produced power twin-fold, in that of Nokris’s devotion, as well as his deception through her mouthpiece Thrall positioned within the singularity. She breathed in his desperate agreement and prepared for the struggle to come. - "Until now, the shadow from which you skulked has been your brother's. Without the Taken King to cast your swaddling shade, you stand naked in the sun for all to see, yes? No shadows, no hiding, no tricks. Just the Guardians and their god-slaying weapons." "I have little to fear from the sun," she insists, but there is no twist in her face. No secret delight. - "Tell me, O Witness mine-does the Light that fills this once dreadfully tiresome space blind you from its newfound glory?" Let me share my perspective then, which you must be waiting for with bated breath: my acquisition of the Light itself is delightful proof of an existence higher even than yours-a sort of karmic wit, if you will.

it seems to me that this pure and untainted egg must have been whisked away by before oryx wishing to take riven, else she must have somehow purged the taint with some form of magic.

I can't speak for how Savathun got the Ahamkara egg. What I can definitely say is that Savathun likely did not steal Mara's egg during the excorism. Because I remember that following the finale mission to Season of the Lost, the Ahamkara egg was still in Mara's Chambers. The only way Savathun could've stolen it at that point would've been after she was resurrected but given the timeline as we know it, Savy didn't have her memories, was presumably experimenting with the light, then we killed her in Witchqueen and she's been effectively dead and tucked away in the Hidden's Vault until now.

Even an uncorrupted ahamkara being in the same room as The Witness seems dangerous. If there's anything that could beat wish magic, its sheer force of will would do it. A Ahamkara taken directly by the Witness though? That would be end of the Sol system at minimum.

Riven and savathun are both cut from the same cloth. Both wanted to be free from their bonds and weave threads of schemes to do it.

If we cannot see Cayde ride into battle on an ahamkara to some sick rock and roll music against the witness I don’t want it Bungie!

My thing with the taken eggs, if Riven did lay them, and if Riven has some control over some forces of the taken. Wouldn't it make more sense that Riven would lay Taken eggs and have control over her offspring? As far as we know, we have no idea when Riven had these eggs if they are in fact hers. So it could be possible she was taken either before or during her eggs were being cultivated, which would result in Taken eggs.

Once we get Xivu Arath’s model, Dynasty needs to be remade

if they are the same egg which has been cleansed, it could spell out some possibilities for Sloane and the hoards of other races which have been Taken

Lore Drop this week Riven did say the only time Ahamkara are together are when they have a mate

Also. . . There's a dungeon next season. A taken Ahamkara would make an awesome boss

We should keep in mind that "The Great Hunt" didn't extend beyond Sol, and the Ahamkaras' extinction only applies to our system, and we know that the Ahamkara exist beyond our reach, the Harmony had them, Calus had access to an Ahamkara bone so to say they're "extinct" is not really true given the limited reach of Humanity.

My form changes shape, my prison no longer has meaning. Those statements could have been describing the creation of an uncorrupted egg from Riven.

22:27 OH NO IT'S THE HAMMER AGAIN

I can see it now.... The witness and mara sov, riding their wish dragons against eachother like Daenarys and the Night King......

I'm going to assume now that if Savathun's wish was for the Dreaming City to fall into an endless time loop, that the tradeoff for Riven was using her own wish magic to 'un-take' one of her eggs. But, that doesn't really seem to fit either. Time will tell!

I am seeing something like 'The war of the Lance' from Dragon Lance or the 'Will of worms' from Dark Souls 1. Truly gonna be a potential Season.