@@alexalmond6862 Nope it's wolfpack look at the Ehroah video. Plus it adds even more damage to heavy swords like fallen guillotine with frenzy + surrounded enhanced with expanding abyss and a weaken nade/source and you'll outdamage whatever niche source you're on about.
@@hectornieves537 Sorry but that is just wrong while Transcendence Ergo perfect fifth caster does deal more damage ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MxowLAp4nn4.htmlsi=_O8OiTj32OLITnOj
@@hectornieves537 They even use it in 4 man flawless Master Salvation Edge Falling Guillotine definitely isn't bad but Vortex frame are also just kinda mid with their heavy attacks costing so much to cast but not really doing that much damage ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KkRRBEEMcJ4.htmlsi=LQe-LmeB_831VqNp
