Destiny 2: The Mixed Lightfall Response.. ft. Byf

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Destiny 2 Lightfall: Story Criticisms, Bungie Update, Zavalas Future & Final Shape
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In this episode we’ll be talking about everything Lightfall and all the latest updates. The feedback of Lightfall as an expansion, the story criticisms, cloudstriders, Calus, new strand subclass, The Witness, Savathun returning, new enemies, the 6th subclass, Nezarec and the contest mode raid difficulty, future of Zavalas character, Amanda Holidays return, the Final Shape expansion and more! #Destiny2 #Lightfall #CreatorChat
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@unknownplayer03 Год назад

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@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX Год назад

You know what I just realized? The final boss fight with Calus was actually the first time our Guardian has met him in person. Calus bots don’t count.

@brmawe Год назад

Yeah, kinda crazy when you really think about it.

@dragonhalo8975 Год назад

@acgearsandarms1343 Год назад

First and last.

@NongIng Год назад

My mind was blown when it turned out he a bot And then I went to the back room…

@marcuslee698 Год назад

What’s so does special about that my guy

@urazz7739 Год назад

I think that Strand should've been fully unlocked at the beginning of Lightfall and as we progress through the story of Lightfall, we unlock more aspects and fragments of it. That way it doesn't feel completely jarring to use it in the campaign. It also allows for the narrative to focus less on Strand and more on the actual goal.

@SymbioteMullet Год назад

Also the grind for strand meditations feels unnecessarily steep...

@samkoch1038 Год назад

Maybe they would have, if they didn’t need to pad out the campaign as much as possible since it was all filled

@bradleydobbs3182 Год назад

@Symbiote Mullet I've seen people complain about the strand meditations. Do you know those darkness repeaters floating in each area? They give you 25 meditations each. Go get them all and you can purchase most of the strand things

@diumer777 Год назад

I agree, the problem is bungie is over using suspense, and fomo

@gavinswallow4657 Год назад

I think the Lightfall expansion would have been better as a seasonal story and each week introduce us to strand then give us it after the final week of beating Calus

@JPOG7TV Год назад

Very happy to see the podcast going on. It seems we are going through one of the toughest times as a community so it’s nice to see a level headed discussion.

@deuceyd8468 Год назад

I'm a new player I started this game on March 8th and I haven't put it down since. I really enjoyed lightfall also.

@user-ty1iy9lt2e Год назад

What I learned is that that first boss fight when you first met the boss was hard

@kamewoni Год назад

The obvious connections of Strand to Witch Queen should be more upsetting to people than it appears to be.

@stevengloyd7385 Год назад

Absolutely agree. I've been asking for highest magic ever since I first met them. Bungie finally gets us to the point that it can happen and drops the ball at the finish line.

@thenetpagan Год назад

Thank you! I don't get it honestly, what it means: content was cut from a DLC you paid for and then re-sell it to the players. Most the D2 players are simps 🙄🙄

@stevengloyd7385 Год назад

@@thenetpagan I don't understand why people are so against criticizing the mistakes and missteps bungie makes.

@anosvoldigoad3021 Год назад

People still playing this game after the GDC presentation is disappointing to see

@cwj2733 Год назад

@@stevengloyd7385 i understand being critical but as critical as people are, (melodramatic) it’s not fun to let ppl know ur opinion of d2 cus if u disagree ur a bungie simp and if u agree the takes that u DO agree with sounds like a crackhead under a dallas overpass rambling

@lukematthew3503 Год назад

I hope the sixth subclass is Luster. The power that Rhulk and Calus were weilding against us. Same with Caretaker. The Yellow darkness energy and a yellow subclass would be perfect for aesthetic purposes, at least.

@Raddahgon Год назад

I want dark red to be the next color, not yellow. Everything else you said is fine.

@itswickie8545 Год назад

It’s probably not going to be called Luster. Look how Stasis and Strand all begin with an S and are followed up bij an a. So I guess the next subclass will follow the same rule?

@aidenfanucci9523 Год назад

@@itswickie8545 that's just happenstance, it would still more likely be called resonance, don't know where Luster came from

@chasey4069 Год назад

We could still get Taken powers

@lukematthew3503 Год назад

@@aidenfanucci9523 The Lore. Also, as far as the color, If you look at the mural in the Vow of the disciple raid, under the umbral sun there is a blue, green, and yellow symbol. In the lore, Rhulk thanks the Witness for granting him is Luster.

@JonathanB117 Год назад

They did technically explain the need for strand half hazardly with the suppression field things that took away our abilities. Though the narrative around it blocking light was weird since it still worked on stasis but not on strand both of which are darkness powers.

@antionesmith4615 Год назад

From what I was reading about it, people seem to think it was originally supposed to be another light power, with the witch queen, but it wasn't fully worked out and moved into this season.

@urazz7739 Год назад

If I recall, it was said that the suppression field things blocked all of our known powers, including stasis. Strand was the only exception because we just discovered it (and there were fonts of power for it all over the place).

@nopoiseallowed5675 Год назад

Haphazardly.

@Raddahgon Год назад

@@urazz7739 Which is funny because if you replay the mission with the strand subclass equipped you still get suppressed. Too bad they didn't code for that. Would have been a neat detail.

@Raddahgon Год назад

@@silent3killer99 if a guardian uses a light sub-class, they move forward knowing that they will be suppressed. It just becomes the risk. Also, the strand teammate could use their super to destroy he suppression field quicker. Some nightfalls had all three champion modifiers during a time when we could only go in with two champion mods on. We had to rely on our teammates to get through that content. We rely on teammates for raids too. Allowing the stand teammates to keep their super should not be a question of equlity. If all three members used strand, the suppression field could be skipped entirely, but that's OK. The field was never meant to stop strand so it's ok if it gets rendered useless.

@jadetortellini6150 Год назад

I am 100% on team Savathun, can’t wait for her to come back

@thithi8793 Год назад

@Kaiser8361N Год назад

My trust in Bungie regarding the story of the franchise has never been more damaged than it has for Lightfall. I think I’ll hang out for Final Shape but that might be it for me unfortunately

@SmokeDrawRepeat Год назад

I stop caring about the lore and the story when they made a whole DLC recycling a location because of how red changed the feel of the moon 😂😩

@storyseeker6028 Год назад

Lightfall came very close to taking me outta the game completely, I'm not a fan of the lore or the campaign. Nezarec unparticular reminded me of Kylo Ren making him almost instantly my least favorite character in destiny, I pretty much wish they kept him as an energy drink to whatever they did to him because I have like -200 respect for Mr. Nezcafé. If not for the vibe I get from Bungie of "We know we didn't do our best here, what's done is done, we'll do better next time," I'd probably have dipped outta here faster than I did with star wars post TLJ. I won't pretend Lightfall was exactly as bad as that film, we at least had a couple of worthwhile characters in Caital and Osiris but yeah. I didn't get much enjoyment outta these past couple of months.

@hey_its_travis Год назад

Only thing is they say that every dlc, expansion. We messed up, we promise to do better next time, please trust us and have faith, now praise us for fixing it and give us more money.

@storyseeker6028 Год назад

@@hey_its_travis Fairish point, but not every dlc, Taken King, Rise of Iron, Forsaken and Witch Queen were all really good. That and at least Bungie seems to want us to continue paying for their content. I've seen more than enough from Lucas Film/Disney to feel much less than welcome paying for their stuff. Scraping the bottom of the barrel I know but it's something. At least Tears of the Kingdom looks good.

@marcosjimenez80 Год назад

At this point, and I hope I'm wrong, I feel like there will be little in the way of closure. Too many loose ends to cramp up in 3 seasons. Thanks for this podcast. Awesome work.

@billynahar9861 Год назад

Nothing like chilling out on a Tuesday afternoon and listening to this 🙌 Thank you for keeping it going even in Destiny’s low points.

@KimchiYeo Год назад

11:54 EXACTLY!! Not a single person gave as crap the traveler got bombasticly cut open by the witness, not even misraaks kel who always went on about the great machine etc etc.

@grayden4138 Год назад

Because the cutscenes that bookended Lightfall were originally, together, supposed to be opening cutscene of Final Shape. But they cut it in half and pretended that the whole time we were screwing around on Neptune, humanity, Cabal, and Awoken were waging this massive defensive against the Black Fleet, but as we can see the Witness can just dissemble ships on a whim. None of makes narrative sense.

@GunPilot3000 Год назад

I listen while driving. You guys give a fantastic sense of peace and tranquility while dealing with traffic. Then i get to work and build a load on DIM. Thank you for your vids!

@Astrapionte Год назад

The Witness is THE best character to me lol I just loveeee it so much (hence the profile pic). It’s* an amalgamation of multiple entities; so calm, cool, collected and wrathful. And them puppy dawg eyes?! 😊😊

@scoobypup01 Год назад

Seeing The Witness get pissed off was pretty cool, that’s it

@EnvisionedBlindness Год назад

The witness is an "it" not a them Mara ikora and zavala say "it" multiple times. Quit projecting your fairy tail political ideology on an "it"

@HotdogStephen Год назад

Them refers to several people, the Witness is one person

@marcuslee698 Год назад

Facts

@Astrapionte Год назад

@@HotdogStephen but they call themselves “we” everytime they’re on screen…

@peterhalliwell8456 Год назад

Making dinner for my family whilst listening. Nice too see you both again.

@DarthLevicor Год назад

I really hope we get a Taken subclass for Final Shape or at least something similar

@casualdc6673 Год назад

I listen to many of Byf’s videos and podcasts like this while going to sleep… Very relaxing and gets the mind thinking.

@diogobarao3 Год назад

I said it before somewhere else but I'll say it again after the final shape i would love to see a directors cut of these expansions and how the story could have been

@stevendoty1986 Год назад

Working on a job site with my ear buds. Love to listen to these!

@C4MG1RL Год назад

One setting that'd really help would be for bows, holding the trigger/button gets very tiring on the hands so it'd be nice to have a click and the bow draws and click to release or similar

@brmawe Год назад

I'll say this...Lightfall isn't straight up trash like some are saying but it sure as hell ain't one of the best expansions we got. This is mid as hell, and the main problem is that we're near the end of this Light & Dark saga & STILL we are getting mediocre content.

@antrich110 Год назад

Listening at work, love these videos and just wanna listen as soon as I can

@ronaldmayorga7962 Год назад

When you think of The Nine, just reference His Dark Materials. You can't tell me Bungie didn't read those books and say, hey, Dusk? That's a good idea

@drbastion6951 Год назад

Psst….bungie….they are the ones that wrote it

@BlkZard Год назад

I listened to this throughout the day, so I was doing a number of things: prepping food (chopping fresh ginger, dicing peppers, cooking rice) for a kung pao beef bowl recipe, time outside with my dogs (one is in poor health and y'all's discussion helped with staying on tasks), and finishing up my achievements on Coffee Talk Episode 2 (chill indie game I've been using to ease up on D2).

@VRGUILE Год назад

The simplest way I view why the LF campaign story is agreeably panned compared to WQ, Forsaken and even Taken King is that all of the former had an encompassing plot that had a defined beginning, middle and end that logically fits within the destiny timeline as major story arcs. LF doesn't. It feels like it abruptly stops at the middle point of a side story adjacent to the actual main plot. In essence, it almost felt like a filler episode for a long anime.

@treefiddy209 Год назад

Always enjoy the lore breakdown and general state of the game discussions. Always like to check em out while I knock out bounties and weekly pinnacles.

@Deo_Volenti Год назад

I'm currently surviving the apocalypse in Dead Island 2 while listening to this.

@JeffreyAppSteam Год назад

Damn i like this Game. First one was funnier with the dev weapons. The Bat that punched the zombies across the map. Might play it again someday

@CantWant Год назад

listening during my hour drive to work 🤙 glad y'all still make content always makes me happy to listen in! :)

@thekagemaster Год назад

I think it's time Destiny novels need to become a thing

@drsaddomia Год назад

Working, always look forward to these creator chats.

@schuug Год назад

Glad to see you post more! You were always my top Destiny channel

@Crew0303 Год назад

Playing destiny while I listen, thanks for the great content!

@ReksratYTB Год назад

Sounding off from the kitchen at work! Great to have some eeeeasy listening during the daily grind. Keep up the good work boys

@xslashsdas Год назад

On my work break playing some Iron Banner, listening to the podcast cheers!

@spiritexcalibur79 Год назад

Beating the light fall campaign on legendary difficulty

@Johnston212 Год назад

Kind of ironic, but the mod system was actually one of the things that drove me to nuclear burnout. I never had to take buildcrafting seriously until Lightfall came out. One of many factors that caused me to leave Destiny behind

@acgearsandarms1343 Год назад

I would say I’m more confused than anything. Confused how things ended up like this. Confused if I am in the right feeling how I do about Lightfall. I honestly have come to regret putting in almost $90 into Lightfall. I never done this with any other expansion before because I thought we would get something worth the price. I was proven wrong and I just… don’t know what else to feel besides disappointed. I didn’t get my money’s worth with Lightfall or Season of Defiance, so is it wrong to feel like I got shafted? Should I trust we’ll get better further down the line this year and with Final Shape? I just don’t know and my wallet can’t keep going into the game blindly. Some of my best gaming moments were in Destiny and I don’t want the game to fail, but am I allowed to call out the flaws for a game I like?

@hey_its_travis Год назад

Absolutely speak up, just be respectful in your criticism. You seem level headed. They will never know if people don't express their disappointment.

@urazz7739 Год назад

@@hey_its_travis Yeah, that's the big thing. Don't go insulting people constantly and/or threaten violence.

@grimm_8819 Год назад

1:22:00 Recently ran through the new light intros with a friend, and man some of the copypasta pit of heresy obstacles are kinda absurd lol.

@samkoch1038 Год назад

Not only was the whole “uglier they are, the harder they fall” line insanely cringey, it was also RACIST. Nimbus literally said cabal are ugly… TO A CABAL

@josesantiago5055 Год назад

Someone is within the traveler. The Gardener is in the Traveler and not the Traveler

@eagles7235 Год назад

I listened while sharpening some of my EDC knives (it’s a big hobby) and you’re right. The story is in a weird place, and they dropped the ball on LightFall. I’m really hoping the next season sheds some massive light on what is going on/ the Witness’ motives

@ricardotolbert1797 Год назад

After supposedly “killing” Calus, I remember something about Rhulk being supposedly in dormancy. Now idk if this fits in with Calus…who knows because it seems there trying to bring Rhulk back. Same thing is said for Nezarec

@iamoctonate 9 месяцев назад

I honestly hope they do. Calus deserved better.

@Vaunzyy Год назад

Listening while workin 🖤

@DustinMikkelsen Год назад

I'm on lunch at work and decided to check out this video.

@gavinswallow4657 Год назад

I just watched this vid after coming back to Destiny 2 and I love the lore alongside the campaign and the stories Bungie try to tell and honestly Lightfall felt like it would have worked as a seasonal content thing as yes we did find Neomuna but it seemed more like a mini story of us stumbling onto strand and trying to harness it fully I even had a chuckle at the “training montage”music put on the mission where we actually get a handle on strand before taking on Calus for real but I feel like it should have been a seasonal story and would have had a great reception as a result

@di7idehd Год назад

Love listening to these while playing Destiny🥂

@5ylokTheDefiled Год назад

I'm still locked in the fucking Prison of Elders while watching this

@starplatinum2743 Год назад

Listening at work

@MW2proification Год назад

I personally liked the story, the way you get the characters interact with each other, the world building of Neomuna and the action that goes with it. I feel that this was a good set up for the conclusion of the Light and Dark Saga. They did say that this is not suppose to be a losing like constantly losing but it is a lost.

@baka_ja_nai Год назад

"The team is very passionate about Destiny" - yeah, thats why they milk it mercilessly while consistently drlivering Minimal Viable Product with least effort possible. Just from state of patches this season its obvious that its C-team on life support.

@martingonzalez3629 Год назад

I was doing my organic chemistry practice test problems while listening to this.

@samchamplin583 Год назад

damn this shit deep, lil homie tipping low and tipping hats to david brubreck

@lMoNsTiRl Год назад

Theres still the shard of the traveler in the edz l, that could play a part in resurrecting amanda

@samhank Год назад

Love you guys

@Warstory0126 Год назад

I have never played d2 less. If I hadn't already paid for the next season I wouldn't even think of playing it

@nicholascazmay2126 Год назад

Based on what we’ve seen of Darkness resonance abilities, I’m anticipating a lot of armor/defensive capabilities combined with autonomous attack abilities (think Cabal overshield backpacks, Rhulk/Nez/Tormentor armor that breaks when attacking weakpoints, homing missiles like Calus and the Caretaker use). Something that maybe makes you slow but tanky and able to punish targets slowly but steadily as you advance on them.

@DaFantasyz Год назад

Driving back from work listening to this

@DaFantasyz Год назад

OH CRAP I CRASHED

@Hazejazejr Год назад

Eating a bagel at 11pm after taking a break from playing minecraft all day. I’m a hardcore trials player😂😂

@nickm2890 Год назад

Relaxing and getting ready to grind out the rest of my seasonal challenges. Quality upload, folks.

@captainxodus8897 Год назад

Playing D2 while listening 🥂

@ambeauman Год назад

I'm working while listening. Great chat boiz

@marioallstarrr Год назад

Thier voices are buttery smooth 😊

@Jihichan Год назад

love listening while drawing :)

@MultiSoulforce Год назад

I can appreciate what they tried to do with making Nimbus like some kinda surfer dude; but I believe instead of trying to do the whole twitter teenager thing, they shoulda went with the Michelangelo from Ninja turtles feel. Or something like that, given the fact that they wanted this to feel like the 80s

@underscore_5450 Год назад

I know everyone's mad about not knowing what the Veil is but like, we're one expansion away from the end of the saga and we still don't know exactly what the Traveller and Witness are. We're on our way to the finale and we're still not sure what our main antagonist's primary motivation is or where he comes from or why he looks the way he does or the extent of his powers. Destiny does a whole lot of not explaining things so not finding out what the Veil does was completely unsurprising to me. Imo, Bungie has still yet to deliver a coherent and self contained story that isn't reliant on out-of-game lore from 5 years ago. Lightfall is exactly what I thought it would be, an expansion for Destiny 2 that crept forward the main story a tiny bit and gives us way more questions than answers.

@Twilight.Princess Год назад

I work at a resort so I always listen to podcasts while I work.

@guiltysparkplug3856 Год назад

Laying on my back listening to two very relaxing voices

@scoobypup01 Год назад

It’s kinda obvious that Strand was supposed to be in Witch Queen

@manuelaraujo1992 Год назад

I'm working at a Sterile Processing Department while listening to you guys 😂

@BlazeTheArtist01 Год назад

Listening while I airbrush my new clan shirt😂

@RodrigoAstroturd Год назад

Final Fantasy XIV players held a vigil for Stephen Critchlow The VA for Count Edmont de Fortemps from the Heavensward expansion. 1:36:51

@nathanmellott2262 Год назад

I love Destiny. Really I do. Been playing since the D1 Beta. I've seen the ups, the downs, the good, bad and ugly. Lightfall gives me strong D1 launch vibes in that D1's story was completely scrapped and stitched back together, but the gameplay, gunplay, lore and environments were incredible. Lightfall seems like we're back at the start......gameplay, gunplay, and environments are amazing. Story tho? Seems disjointed and leaves more questions unanswered than we had going in. I understand Bungie is a company that needs to make money and splitting the last expansion into 2 allows them to bring in more revenue, but at the same time Im sure ik not the only one that thinks that Bungie could have done much better with Lightfall, especially after Witch Queen.

@ZRAGE6 Год назад

I like the Throne podcast especially Destiny podcast while I take a shower and then eat my lunch and then play some destiny because it’s usually on my day off from work

@Astrapionte Год назад

I’m drawing rn while listening to this 😊

@Skm00n Год назад

Maybe the third dark subclass will be like nezarec. Blinding ennemies and using the force like in star wars, using shadows.

@Dont-Evan-Bother Год назад

i was eating ramen for lunch while playing destiny and listening to this 😊

@sallyostling Год назад

Is it significant that tormenters weild void power? They're obviously a darkness enemy that doesn't have a ghost like the hive.

@dannycarey5244 Год назад

I would enjoy some old school style UP videos.

@DaXt3r99 Год назад

hey guys :) listening to the podcast while smashing iron banner :)

@chargedbowl Год назад

Lightfall had one of the most buggy seasons ever. Audio bugs, comp quiter penalty, all the error codes and servers crashes. They broke so much stuff.

@Nipzo_Ozpin Год назад

I am currently doing gms as I watch this video 😅. makes it kinda hard but we'll worth it.

@sebastianbell941 Год назад

Working at my desk job

@joshuamunoz3310 Год назад

I am organizing my vault while hearing the podcast

@SlimeyZockt Год назад

I originally though I was not gonna do the contest aswell, like when kingsfall came out the 2nd time. but I came 3 hours late to the start, saw that it already has been completed and then completed it in a span of 11 hours, uncluding sleep. This was my first Day 1 Emblem I got and it feels nice finally getting one, but it also feels kinda shallow. I don't mind everyone getting it, I really don't, it's jsut that it was not really a challenge. The first 3 encoutners I didn't even do the mechanic and only at nezarec we started to speedrun as we had 4 runners. It was way to easy for 48 hours...

@user-kc7is3wh2u 10 месяцев назад

I heard someone say this and its spot on neomuna doesnt and feel like and isnt a city its a shopping mall. They fumbled the feeling of being in a city great colors amazing skybox but super small world

@AfroditeBell Год назад

I’m cleaning my house at 10pm as I watch/listen.

@jaceypacey388 Год назад

Driving to work

@lMoNsTiRl Год назад

Watching at work today, if i wasnt id be at home either in front of the PC or on the couch.

@JJMomoida Год назад

"Destiny is full of potential" is something we have been saying since 2014. It is just as true now as it was back then. The problem is... well, we have *been* saying it for nearly a decade. I feel like I almost never hear someone say "Destiny is full of potential" in a sort of excited tone. It's almost always with a sort of tone of vague or regretful longing, as if to say "yeah the game's come a long way......... but it could be so much more......" It's been almost 10 years since Destiny started. 10 years. I am astounded by how rocky the series continues to be.

@jessedevries6650 Год назад

Lightfall is best gameplay destiny has been ever. And will die on that hill

@JBradders76 Год назад

The thing is with this and lightfall, we have this year to found out what the witness wants with the traveler and why, then also how we will follow him and find out, but what you also need to know is the the final shape is it will not be the end of the story, coz if we all think it will be the next 12 months will be very very boring as what will it be. What di you think about that Idea?

@watchthisbs9049 Год назад

What do you mean? Final shape will be the end of the story. FF did it perfectly fine. They ended with endwalker 6.0 and moved on with 6.1. There’s no way they draw it out for a year after release for the ultimate conclusion.